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16 Sep 2006 05:28:47 PM |
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Does a simple magnet bend space-time? |
If a magntic does (albeit at a microscopic scale) they why can't we
use magnets to warp space time and have resulting un-folding of space
time pull us along?
We would not need high powered rockets to push us , rather use the
fabric of
space-time to pull us along (even microscopically) but we would in
essence move....
- Food for thought
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| User: "FrediFizzx" |
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17 Sep 2006 02:18:49 PM |
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<haigkrikorian@gmail.com> wrote in message
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If a magntic does (albeit at a microscopic scale) they why can't we
use magnets to warp space time and have resulting un-folding of space
time pull us along?
We would not need high powered rockets to push us , rather use the
fabric of
space-time to pull us along (even microscopically) but we would in
essence move....
It is not quite that simple. Here is maybe one of the better scenarios
I have seen,
http://www.deltagroupengineering.com
http://www.deltagroupengineering.com/Docs/EGMwarpdrive.pdf
http://65.108.189.168/volume3.htm
You would need much higher power than just by magnets alone.
FrediFizzx
Quantum Vacuum Charge papers;
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.pdf
or postscript
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.ps
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/physics/0601110
http://www.vacuum-physics.com
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18 Sep 2006 07:17:51 PM |
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- Thanks
FrediFizzx wrote:
<haigkrikorian@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158445727.142418.270840@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
If a magntic does (albeit at a microscopic scale) they why can't we
use magnets to warp space time and have resulting un-folding of space
time pull us along?
We would not need high powered rockets to push us , rather use the
fabric of
space-time to pull us along (even microscopically) but we would in
essence move....
It is not quite that simple. Here is maybe one of the better scenarios
I have seen,
http://www.deltagroupengineering.com
http://www.deltagroupengineering.com/Docs/EGMwarpdrive.pdf
http://65.108.189.168/volume3.htm
You would need much higher power than just by magnets alone.
FrediFizzx
Quantum Vacuum Charge papers;
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.pdf
or postscript
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.ps
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/physics/0601110
http://www.vacuum-physics.com
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| User: "Panties On Head" |
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19 Sep 2006 11:52:07 PM |
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"emmiting some unknwn yet basic particles"
- To a lay person then, it seems as though that even in the
21st century physics is still in the dark ages wrt to some
basic principles. We do not know what light is, we do not know
what gravity is, we do not know what time is... we do not know what
electromagnetism is with its 'force lines" or the so-called
particles that cause force .....
I think that we really do know what all of these things are. I dont think
that there can be any question about it anymore. It's quite clear that all
energy forms are composed of the same thing - waveforms in the dimensional
fabric of space.
Dimension is more than just a blackboard to scribble upon like we do in R3.
Length is probabilistic.
http://sciphysicsopenmanuscript.blogspot.com/
http://sciphysicsopenmanuscript.blogspot.com/
http://sciphysicsopenmanuscript.blogspot.com/
http://order-disorder-randomness.blogspot.com/
http://order-disorder-randomness.blogspot.com/
http://order-disorder-randomness.blogspot.com/
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| User: "Greg Hansen" |
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16 Sep 2006 10:05:58 PM |
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wrote:
If a magntic does (albeit at a microscopic scale)
It does-- magnetic fields have energy, energy is part of the
energy-momentum tensor, the energy-momentem tensor is the source of
curvature.
they why can't we
use magnets to warp space time
Not enough energy. To compare its effect with a massive object, run it
through E=mc^2, or m=E/c^2. Particularly strong superconducting magnets
have a field energy of about a jelly donut, or 250 kilocalories, or
around 80 kilojoules. 80,000 J / 300,000^2 m^2/s^2 = .0000009 kg. Wave
your fist around and you'll warp space more than you could with magnets.
and have resulting un-folding of space
time pull us along?
Conservation of momentum-- we get pushed along by throwing something
behind us. It could, in principle, be gravitational radiation that we
throw behind us. But you won't get very far by kicking your legs in space.
We would not need high powered rockets to push us , rather use the
fabric of
space-time to pull us along (even microscopically) but we would in
essence move....
- Food for thought
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| User: "" |
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18 Sep 2006 07:20:01 PM |
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- Thanks !!!!
Greg Hansen wrote:
haigkrikorian@gmail.com wrote:
If a magntic does (albeit at a microscopic scale)
It does-- magnetic fields have energy, energy is part of the
energy-momentum tensor, the energy-momentem tensor is the source of
curvature.
they why can't we
use magnets to warp space time
Not enough energy. To compare its effect with a massive object, run it
through E=mc^2, or m=E/c^2. Particularly strong superconducting magnets
have a field energy of about a jelly donut, or 250 kilocalories, or
around 80 kilojoules. 80,000 J / 300,000^2 m^2/s^2 = .0000009 kg. Wave
your fist around and you'll warp space more than you could with magnets.
and have resulting un-folding of space
time pull us along?
Conservation of momentum-- we get pushed along by throwing something
behind us. It could, in principle, be gravitational radiation that we
throw behind us. But you won't get very far by kicking your legs in space.
We would not need high powered rockets to push us , rather use the
fabric of
space-time to pull us along (even microscopically) but we would in
essence move....
- Food for thought
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| User: "mike3" |
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19 Sep 2006 03:45:20 PM |
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Greg Hansen wrote:
haigkrikorian@gmail.com wrote:
If a magntic does (albeit at a microscopic scale)
It does-- magnetic fields have energy, energy is part of the
energy-momentum tensor, the energy-momentem tensor is the source of
curvature.
they why can't we
use magnets to warp space time
Not enough energy. To compare its effect with a massive object, run it
through E=mc^2, or m=E/c^2. Particularly strong superconducting magnets
have a field energy of about a jelly donut, or 250 kilocalories, or
around 80 kilojoules. 80,000 J / 300,000^2 m^2/s^2 = .0000009 kg. Wave
your fist around and you'll warp space more than you could with magnets.
Actually, it's 80,000 J/300,000,000^2 m^2/s^2 = 0.0000000000009 kg.
Really
wussy indeed.
and have resulting un-folding of space
time pull us along?
Conservation of momentum-- we get pushed along by throwing something
behind us. It could, in principle, be gravitational radiation that we
throw behind us. But you won't get very far by kicking your legs in space.
We would not need high powered rockets to push us , rather use the
fabric of
space-time to pull us along (even microscopically) but we would in
essence move....
- Food for thought
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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17 Sep 2006 06:40:34 AM |
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wrote:
If a magntic does (albeit at a microscopic scale) they why can't we
use magnets to warp space time and have resulting un-folding of space
time pull us along?
We would not need high powered rockets to push us , rather use the
fabric of
space-time to pull us along (even microscopically) but we would in
essence move....
- Food for thought
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food No 1
you are a sucker to buy the cueved spacetime story
food No2
it is not he fucken spacetime that curves the magnetic force lines
it is the magnet itself that has curved force lines
by emmiting some unknwn yet basic particles
ATB
Y.Porat
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| User: "T Wake" |
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17 Sep 2006 07:27:28 AM |
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"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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haigkrikorian@gmail.com wrote:
If a magntic does (albeit at a microscopic scale) they why can't we
use magnets to warp space time and have resulting un-folding of space
time pull us along?
We would not need high powered rockets to push us , rather use the
fabric of
space-time to pull us along (even microscopically) but we would in
essence move....
- Food for thought
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food No 1
you are a sucker to buy the cueved spacetime story
food No2
it is not he fucken spacetime that curves the magnetic force lines
it is the magnet itself that has curved force lines
by emmiting some unknwn yet basic particles
For some one who doesn't have a clue, you certainly have a lot to say.
Is your medication wearing off again?
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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17 Sep 2006 08:19:24 AM |
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
news:1158493233.953989.55120@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
haigkrikorian@gmail.com wrote:
If a magntic does (albeit at a microscopic scale) they why can't we
use magnets to warp space time and have resulting un-folding of space
time pull us along?
We would not need high powered rockets to push us , rather use the
fabric of
space-time to pull us along (even microscopically) but we would in
essence move....
- Food for thought
-------------------------
food No 1
you are a sucker to buy the cueved spacetime story
food No2
it is not he fucken spacetime that curves the magnetic force lines
it is the magnet itself that has curved force lines
by emmiting some unknwn yet basic particles
For some one who doesn't have a clue, you certainly have a lot to say.
Is your medication wearing off again?
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for someobe who still dont know
T.Wake is a 22 years old Nazi *****
Y.P
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| User: "T Wake" |
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17 Sep 2006 08:21:52 AM |
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"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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for someobe who still dont know
T.Wake is a 22 years old Nazi *****
Wrong on both counts, yet one is at least flattering. Your senility is
showing.
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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17 Sep 2006 08:25:17 AM |
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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for someobe who still dont know
T.Wake is a 22 years old Nazi *****
Wrong on both counts, yet one is at least flattering. Your senility is
showing.
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Bye 22 years nazi sit
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| User: "T Wake" |
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17 Sep 2006 10:03:34 AM |
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"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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for someobe who still dont know
T.Wake is a 22 years old Nazi *****
Wrong on both counts, yet one is at least flattering. Your senility is
showing.
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Bye 22 years nazi sit
You cant even spell your swear words properly. You have the education
levels (and attitude) of a slightly retarded 14 year old.
Are you 14?
Do you compulsively watch History Channel documentaries about Nazis so you
can get off? Do you have a SS uniform in the cupboard for those times when
you need a bit of self gratification?
I suspect so.
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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17 Sep 2006 11:28:57 AM |
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
news:1158499164.706143.287870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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for someobe who still dont know
T.Wake is a 22 years old Nazi *****
Wrong on both counts, yet one is at least flattering. Your senility is
showing.
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Bye 22 years nazi sit
You cant even spell your swear words properly. You have the education
levels (and attitude) of a slightly retarded 14 year old.
Are you 14?
Do you compulsively watch History Channel documentaries about Nazis so you
can get off? Do you have a SS uniform in the cupboard for those times when
you need a bit of self gratification?
I suspect so.
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what is your day job bump parasite
who is enabling you to sit all day best to the computer and ***** it
Y.P
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| User: "T Wake" |
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17 Sep 2006 01:40:07 PM |
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"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
news:1158499517.352468.227730@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
news:1158499164.706143.287870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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for someobe who still dont know
T.Wake is a 22 years old Nazi *****
Wrong on both counts, yet one is at least flattering. Your senility is
showing.
---------------------
Bye 22 years nazi sit
You cant even spell your swear words properly. You have the education
levels (and attitude) of a slightly retarded 14 year old.
Are you 14?
Do you compulsively watch History Channel documentaries about Nazis so
you
can get off? Do you have a SS uniform in the cupboard for those times
when
you need a bit of self gratification?
I suspect so.
--------------------------
what is your day job bump parasite
who is enabling you to sit all day best to the computer and ***** it
You've asked me this countless times you senile old fool.
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| User: "Panties On Head" |
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17 Sep 2006 01:33:43 PM |
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"Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote in message
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"Panties On Head" <No@No.No> wrote in message
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| Cant we all just get along ?
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OH LOOK! It's Rodney King! That PCP will sure put
panties on your head, Roddy. Been beaten up by LA cops
recently? Was the first time because you had panties on your head?
Androcles
It is I. The Rodney. I bear news that when one is in Los Angeles, one must
not wear panties on one's head, lest he be'ith beset upon by the
constabulary and get his royal *****'eth kickethed.
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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17 Sep 2006 05:07:27 PM |
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"Panties On Head" <No@No.No> wrote in message
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| "Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote in message
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| > "Panties On Head" <No@No.No> wrote in message
| > news:jo-dnT5zJ6fnGZDYnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
| > | Cant we all just get along ?
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| > OH LOOK! It's Rodney King! That PCP will sure put
| > panties on your head, Roddy. Been beaten up by LA cops
| > recently? Was the first time because you had panties on your head?
| > Androcles
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| It is I. The Rodney. I bear news that when one is in Los Angeles, one must
| not wear panties on one's head, lest he be'ith beset upon by the
| constabulary and get his royal *****'eth kickethed.
Let me put it to you this way, Rodders.
I bear news that when one is writing to sci.physics, one must
not wear panties on one's head, lest he be'ith beset upon by the
fuckwits, the hahahansons and the Androcles's and get his
royal arse kickethed.
Androcles
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17 Sep 2006 05:38:58 PM |
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
news:1158499164.706143.287870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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for someobe who still dont know
T.Wake is a 22 years old Nazi *****
Wrong on both counts, yet one is at least flattering. Your senility is
showing.
---------------------
Bye 22 years nazi sit
You cant even spell your swear words properly. You have the education
levels (and attitude) of a slightly retarded 14 year old.
Are you 14?
Do you compulsively watch History Channel documentaries about Nazis so
you
can get off? Do you have a SS uniform in the cupboard for those times
when
you need a bit of self gratification?
I suspect so.
--------------------------
what is your day job bump parasite
who is enabling you to sit all day best to the computer and ***** it
You've asked me this countless times you senile old fool.
I think I made him cry.
He keeps accusing everyone of being me. That is what I get for
mentioning my age in here....whuuups.
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17 Sep 2006 06:57:20 PM |
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"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
news:1158499164.706143.287870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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for someobe who still dont know
T.Wake is a 22 years old Nazi *****
Wrong on both counts, yet one is at least flattering. Your senility
is
showing.
---------------------
Bye 22 years nazi sit
You cant even spell your swear words properly. You have the education
levels (and attitude) of a slightly retarded 14 year old.
Are you 14?
Do you compulsively watch History Channel documentaries about Nazis so
you
can get off? Do you have a SS uniform in the cupboard for those times
when
you need a bit of self gratification?
I suspect so.
--------------------------
what is your day job bump parasite
who is enabling you to sit all day best to the computer and ***** it
You've asked me this countless times you senile old fool.
I think I made him cry.
He keeps accusing everyone of being me. That is what I get for
mentioning my age in here....whuuups.
I think he is developing an obsession about you.... When he starts sending
you his soiled underwear you really need to worry......
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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17 Sep 2006 08:00:09 PM |
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In sci.physics, T Wake
<usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com>
wrote
on Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:57:20 +0100
<jPGdnZzWX9NCfZDYRVnyrw@pipex.net>:
"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158532738.501761.69800@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
news:1158510536.944679.315300@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
[snippage]
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what is your day job bump parasite
who is enabling you to sit all day best to the computer and ***** it
You've asked me this countless times you senile old fool.
I think I made him cry.
He keeps accusing everyone of being me. That is what I get for
mentioning my age in here....whuuups.
I think he is developing an obsession about you.... When he starts sending
you his soiled underwear you really need to worry......
Ewwwwwwwwwwww....TMI. Can we get back to something close
to magnetic fields? :-) The best I can do at this point
is note that there might be iron in that underwear if one
eats lots of red meat... :-)
--
#191, -- insert random hemoglobin here
Windows Vista. Because it's time to refresh your hardware. Trust us.
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| User: "Bob" |
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17 Sep 2006 08:32:46 PM |
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The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
In sci.physics, T Wake
<usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com>
wrote
on Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:57:20 +0100
<jPGdnZzWX9NCfZDYRVnyrw@pipex.net>:
"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158532738.501761.69800@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
news:1158510536.944679.315300@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
[snippage]
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what is your day job bump parasite
who is enabling you to sit all day best to the computer and ***** it
You've asked me this countless times you senile old fool.
I think I made him cry.
He keeps accusing everyone of being me. That is what I get for
mentioning my age in here....whuuups.
I think he is developing an obsession about you.... When he starts sending
you his soiled underwear you really need to worry......
Ewwwwwwwwwwww....TMI. Can we get back to something close
to magnetic fields? :-) The best I can do at this point
is note that there might be iron in that underwear if one
eats lots of red meat... :-)
Iron in the underwear is the province of men in their
teens and 20's. For the rest of our lives we rely
on wishful thinking, a damn good imagination, and
well stretched women who can't tell the difference
anyway.
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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| Title: Re: Does a simple magnet bend space-time? |
18 Sep 2006 01:25:09 AM |
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The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
In sci.physics, T Wake
<usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com>
wrote
on Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:57:20 +0100
<jPGdnZzWX9NCfZDYRVnyrw@pipex.net>:
"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158532738.501761.69800@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
news:1158510536.944679.315300@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
[snippage]
--------------------------
what is your day job bump parasite
who is enabling you to sit all day best to the computer and ***** it
You've asked me this countless times you senile old fool.
I think I made him cry.
He keeps accusing everyone of being me. That is what I get for
mentioning my age in here....whuuups.
I think he is developing an obsession about you.... When he starts sending
you his soiled underwear you really need to worry......
Ewwwwwwwwwwww....TMI. Can we get back to something close
to magnetic fields? :-)
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hey
you expect tooo much from 22 years little disturbed bum parasites
who sit all day on the computer and could not get a day job!!
Y.P
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| User: "T Wake" |
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18 Sep 2006 02:14:34 PM |
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"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
In sci.physics, T Wake
<usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com>
wrote
on Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:57:20 +0100
<jPGdnZzWX9NCfZDYRVnyrw@pipex.net>:
"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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what is your day job bump parasite
who is enabling you to sit all day best to the computer and ***** it
You've asked me this countless times you senile old fool.
I think I made him cry.
He keeps accusing everyone of being me. That is what I get for
mentioning my age in here....whuuups.
I think he is developing an obsession about you.... When he starts
sending
you his soiled underwear you really need to worry......
Ewwwwwwwwwwww....TMI. Can we get back to something close
to magnetic fields? :-)
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hey
you expect tooo much from 22 years little disturbed bum parasites
who sit all day on the computer and could not get a day job!!
Y.P
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Once more, you have confused me with some one else. We have already
discussed in length what I do, my approximate age etc. Why you think I "sit
all day on the computer and could not get a day job," only you could
explain.
Remember, take down all the photos of Eric before people get suspicious....
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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| Title: Re: Does a simple magnet bend space-time? |
19 Sep 2006 03:55:07 AM |
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
In sci.physics, T Wake
.com...
you his soiled underwear you really need to worry......
Ewwwwwwwwwwww....TMI. Can we get back to something close
to magnetic fields? :-)
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hey
you expect tooo much from 22 years little disturbed bum parasites
who sit all day on the computer and could not get a day job!!
Y.P
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Once more, you have confused me with some one else. We have already
discussed in length what I do, my approximate age etc. Why you think I "sit
all day on the computer and could not get a day job," only you could
explain.
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ok so you are a bit more than 22 years
and youserved in the Army and you are a security consultant
but waht are your physics qualifications
and who nominated you as a though police of this ng??
even if my ideas are nonconforistic
toyou find it harmful??
dont you with your vast social experience and experiance in life of
more thajn 22 years -know that
any society need some nonconformistic ideas in it ??
dont you think it is furtalizing
do you know that the situation of existing scincve is so good that
nothing
needs to be ammended or revised ?
if youare so much conformistic
go to sci.physics. resaearch and have fun there !!!
they will embrace you wormly !!
or may be your particiapance here is just of bordom and some need for
promitive
instincs satisfaction to compensate you for your deep frustrations in
life ??
iow a cook ??
and who nominated a **young ** security consultant to be the thought
police here ??
btw as knowing you long enough
i dont expact a serious answer !!it will be a smarttguy answer
from the security consultant .
and find youself a more satisfactory job than a security consultant
that leaves you so much (much too much )free time
BYE
Y.Porat
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Does a simple magnet bend space-time? |
19 Sep 2006 03:23:44 PM |
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"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
news:1158560707.454013.144480@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
In sci.physics, T Wake
.com...
you his soiled underwear you really need to worry......
Ewwwwwwwwwwww....TMI. Can we get back to something close
to magnetic fields? :-)
-------------------
hey
you expect tooo much from 22 years little disturbed bum parasites
who sit all day on the computer and could not get a day job!!
Y.P
----------------------------------
Once more, you have confused me with some one else. We have already
discussed in length what I do, my approximate age etc. Why you think I
"sit
all day on the computer and could not get a day job," only you could
explain.
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ok so you are a bit more than 22 years
and youserved in the Army and you are a security consultant
Aha. Your medications have kicked in at last. Good.
but waht are your physics qualifications
By a miracle (and no small amount of bluffing, begging and pleading), I was
awarded a PhD.
What about you?
and who nominated you as a though police of this ng??
No one. I am far from being the though(t) police here.
Calling you a crackpot is not thought police. It is stating the obvious.
even if my ideas are nonconforistic
I assume you use the word "nonconformistic" when normal people would simply
say "wrong."
toyou find it harmful??
Not harmful, entertaining.
dont you with your vast social experience and experiance in life of
more thajn 22 years -know that
any society need some nonconformistic ideas in it ??
So what? Your ideas are wrong not "non-conformistic."
dont you think it is furtalizing
do you know that the situation of existing scincve is so good that
nothing
needs to be ammended or revised ?
On the contrary. There are lots of things which need to be ammended and
revised. Your crackpotery is not helpful though, as you divert sensible
"thought energy" to going over ground already proven.
Accept the mass of the photon is consistent with zero and move on.
if youare so much conformistic
go to sci.physics. resaearch and have fun there !!!
they will embrace you wormly !!
I am sure they would. Every one does. I am a likeable person.
or may be your particiapance here is just of bordom and some need for
promitive
instincs satisfaction to compensate you for your deep frustrations in
life ??
Ooh. You're a shrink now?
iow a cook ??
I am a terrible chef. As my wife.
and who nominated a **young ** security consultant to be the thought
police here ??
"Young," cool. I am flattered.
Who said I was the thought police?
btw as knowing you long enough
i dont expact a serious answer
Phew.
!!it will be a smarttguy answer
from the security consultant .
I am aim to please.
and find youself a more satisfactory job than a security consultant
that leaves you so much (much too much )free time
BYE
You are contradicting yourself here.
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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| Title: Re: Does a simple magnet bend space-time? |
20 Sep 2006 03:56:58 AM |
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
hey
you expect tooo much from 22 years little disturbed bum parasites
who sit all day on the computer and could not get a day job!!
Y.P
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ok so you are a bit more than 22 years
and youserved in the Army and you are a security consultant
Aha. Your medications have kicked in at last. Good.
but waht are your physics qualifications
By a miracle (and no small amount of bluffing, begging and pleading),
untill here that is the aprt i beleive you !! (:-)
so your blufing begging etc is your system in life
i can sure it as well!!
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I was
awarded a PhD.
1 what was your PHd project??
2 what is your experience in physics practice beside the above
blufing?
3 i am 68 years old
how are you?
TIA
Y.Porat
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Does a simple magnet bend space-time? |
20 Sep 2006 07:17:32 AM |
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"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
news:1158656107.825467.280680@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
hey
you expect tooo much from 22 years little disturbed bum parasites
who sit all day on the computer and could not get a day job!!
Y.P
---------
ok so you are a bit more than 22 years
and youserved in the Army and you are a security consultant
Aha. Your medications have kicked in at last. Good.
but waht are your physics qualifications
By a miracle (and no small amount of bluffing, begging and pleading),
untill here that is the aprt i beleive you !! (:-)
so your blufing begging etc is your system in life
i can sure it as well!!
Well, as your sentence makes no sense, I am going to pretend it said what I
think it said and was complementary.
Thank you.
I was
awarded a PhD.
1 what was your PHd project??
Cosmology. You can actually look it up if you really want.
2 what is your experience in physics practice beside the above
blufing?
A fair bit. Why?
3 i am 68 years old
I am a bit younger than you.
how are you?
Fine thanks, how are you?
Now it is my turn:
What is your practical experience in physics and what was your PhD subject?
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| User: "G=EMC^2 Glazier" |
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20 Sep 2006 08:51:54 AM |
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T Porat The Earth is an electro magnet and has a large magnetic field.
This magnetic field nature puts to good use,but its magnetisim has
nothing to do with keeping the Moon in orbit That is done by the Earth's
gravity.,and thus the curving of space Bert
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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20 Sep 2006 11:04:15 AM |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
T Porat The Earth is an electro magnet and has a large magnetic field.
This magnetic field nature puts to good use,but its magnetisim has
nothing to do with keeping the Moon in orbit That is done by the Earth's
gravity.,and thus the curving of space Bert
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Bert you completely misundersood my claimes
i never said that the magnetism of earth is due its movement
or orbit around the sun
i was zooming into mater of earth
its magnetism will be the same )practically) even of it satnds still
sojust forget about a big object as our earth
we can start with much smaller objects
like a simple Iron magnet
)actually the earths magnetism is due to the irin and probaly other
promagnets matrial at the deapth of earth)
according to my suggestion
any attraction force is by some uknown yet messengers frmmatter
tath are emmited if youlike like a fountain around it
or betetr many fountains
and a *perpetual fountain** can be done only
by nesengers that move not in straght lines (in that case they will be
lost foerever !!and constantly depeet your objects )
but by something that moved naturally in a closed circle
ATB
Y.Porat
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| User: "G=EMC^2 Glazier" |
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20 Sep 2006 01:39:33 PM |
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Y.Porat I know you are to smart to think manetisim holds solar orbiting
objects in place. I was just trying to show gravity does this,by
bending space.. That magnetisim is created by virtual photons Bert
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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20 Sep 2006 10:53:08 AM |
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
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!!
Y.P
By a miracle (and no small amount of bluffing, begging and pleading),
untill here that is the aprt i beleive you !! (:-)
so your blufing begging etc is your system in life
i can sure it as well!!
Well, as your sentence makes no sense, I am going to pretend it said what I
think it said and was complementary.
Thank you.
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if cheating that you admitted is your system and you comsider it as a
compliment
than tank you that is what i and others wahted to know
at least we knoe with whom we are dealind
I was
awarded a PhD.
1 what was your PHd project??
Cosmology. You can actually look it up if you really want.
so cosmology makes you an expert on photon mass and alike ??or does it
make you an expert about the steructre of the Atom and nucleus ??
2 what is your experience in physics practice beside the above
blufing?
A fair bit. Why?
why dont you answer ??
no answer is as you had no paractical experience in a physics job
right??
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3 i am 68 years old
I am a bit younger than you.i was very specific
cant you be specific as well
are you ashames with your age ??
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how are you?
i wanted to ask you waht is your exact age
you see someones resume and experiance is counting
whil taking a man to a job or evaluating his credibility!!
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Fine thanks, how are you?
Now it is my turn:
What is your practical experience in physics and what was your PhD subject?
i am a crank and a complete zero!! zero scientist zero engineer
and zero human being zero pioneering scientist
zero English writer
that has to be trown away from this ng shamefully .(if we count on
your evaluation ..)
so can we get from you some more specific and credible answers
about you ??
ie not eavdive ones
TIA
Y.Porat
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