Science > Physics > Does research into gravity point towards levitation?
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14 Apr 2007 01:16:53 PM |
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Does research into gravity point towards levitation? |
Physicists instinctively seem to recoil from the speculations in
popular journalism and fiction about where gravitational research
might be leading, and the 'bad science' in media reports of current
experiments tend to reinforce this perception. Amused tolerance and
perhaps an attempt to make the complexities of their work more
accessible to the average person might be more helpful.
A fascination with gravity is entirely understandable in the wider
population - after all, it affects their everyday lives in many
fundamental ways, and popular fiction, movies and comic books have fed
on this obsession for a century or more. Levitation, from Biblical
accounts through to modern times, has been the most obvious
manifestation of this.
More practically, the benefits that would result from an ability to
manipulate gravitational waves must be of fundamental interest to the
military/industrial complex worldwide.
What are the physicists' views of the real possibilities, and of the
treatment of gravity in popular fiction, such as 'The Ancient Order of
Moridura', a current example of the genre? Or is it beneath them to
take a view on such a topic - or too dangerous to a serious reputation?
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| User: "Dirk Van de moortel" |
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| Title: Re: Does research into gravity point towards levitation? |
14 Apr 2007 01:28:02 PM |
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"RobEkra" <arkebor@usa.com> wrote in message news:1176574613.644665.229310@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Physicists instinctively seem to recoil from the speculations in
popular journalism and fiction about where gravitational research
might be leading, and the 'bad science' in media reports of current
experiments tend to reinforce this perception. Amused tolerance and
perhaps an attempt to make the complexities of their work more
accessible to the average person might be more helpful.
A fascination with gravity is entirely understandable in the wider
population - after all, it affects their everyday lives in many
fundamental ways, and popular fiction, movies and comic books have fed
on this obsession for a century or more. Levitation, from Biblical
accounts through to modern times, has been the most obvious
manifestation of this.
More practically, the benefits that would result from an ability to
manipulate gravitational waves must be of fundamental interest to the
military/industrial complex worldwide.
What are the physicists' views of the real possibilities, and of the
treatment of gravity in popular fiction, such as 'The Ancient Order of
Moridura', a current example of the genre? Or is it beneath them to
take a view on such a topic - or too dangerous to a serious reputation?
Probably just too silly.
Dirk Vdm
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| User: "RobEkra" |
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| Title: Re: Does research into gravity point towards levitation? |
14 Apr 2007 01:38:06 PM |
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On Apr 14, 7:28 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
SperM.hotmail.com> wrote:
"RobEkra" <arke...@usa.com> wrote in messagenews:1176574613.644665.229310@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Physicists instinctively seem to recoil from the speculations in
popular journalism and fiction about where gravitational research
might be leading, and the 'bad science' in media reports of current
experiments tend to reinforce this perception. Amused tolerance and
perhaps an attempt to make the complexities of their work more
accessible to the average person might be more helpful.
A fascination with gravity is entirely understandable in the wider
population - after all, it affects their everyday lives in many
fundamental ways, and popular fiction, movies and comic books have fed
on this obsession for a century or more. Levitation, from Biblical
accounts through to modern times, has been the most obvious
manifestation of this.
More practically, the benefits that would result from an ability to
manipulate gravitational waves must be of fundamental interest to the
military/industrial complex worldwide.
What are the physicists' views of the real possibilities, and of the
treatment of gravity in popular fiction, such as 'The Ancient Order of
Moridura', a current example of the genre? Or is it beneath them to
take a view on such a topic - or too dangerous to a serious reputation?
Probably just too silly.
Dirk Vdm
I suppose many took that view in the 1920s and 30s about nuclear
fission, atom bombs, laser guns and space travel in popular fiction.
Most of H.G. Welles looks silly from a modern perspective, but I
suspect that he inspired a couple of generations of young scientists.
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| User: "Androcles" |
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| Title: Re: Does research into gravity point towards levitation? |
14 Apr 2007 03:22:34 PM |
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"RobEkra" <arkebor@usa.com> wrote in message =
news:1176575886.019144.136380@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 14, 7:28 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
SperM.hotmail.com> wrote:
"RobEkra" <arke...@usa.com> wrote in =
messagenews:1176574613.644665.229310@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Physicists instinctively seem to recoil from the speculations in
popular journalism and fiction about where gravitational research
might be leading, and the 'bad science' in media reports of current
experiments tend to reinforce this perception. Amused tolerance and
perhaps an attempt to make the complexities of their work more
accessible to the average person might be more helpful.
A fascination with gravity is entirely understandable in the wider
population - after all, it affects their everyday lives in many
fundamental ways, and popular fiction, movies and comic books have =
fed
on this obsession for a century or more. Levitation, from Biblical
accounts through to modern times, has been the most obvious
manifestation of this.
More practically, the benefits that would result from an ability to
manipulate gravitational waves must be of fundamental interest to =
the
military/industrial complex worldwide.
What are the physicists' views of the real possibilities, and of =
the
treatment of gravity in popular fiction, such as 'The Ancient Order =
of
Moridura', a current example of the genre? Or is it beneath them to
take a view on such a topic - or too dangerous to a serious =
reputation?
Probably just too silly.
Dirk Vdm
=20
I suppose many took that view in the 1920s and 30s about nuclear
fission, atom bombs, laser guns and space travel in popular fiction.
Most of H.G. Welles looks silly from a modern perspective, but I
suspect that he inspired a couple of generations of young scientists.
Most of Herbert George Wells looks silly from any perspective, but=20
I suspect that he inspired a couple of generations of young and old=20
cretins who sputter about big bangs, black holes, time dilation and
a host of other nonsense, not realizing Wells was writing FICTION.
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| User: "RobEkra" |
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| Title: Re: Does research into gravity point towards levitation? |
14 Apr 2007 03:49:52 PM |
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On Apr 14, 9:22 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>
wrote:
"RobEkra" <arke...@usa.com> wrote in messagenews:1176575886.019144.136380@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 14, 7:28 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
SperM.hotmail.com> wrote:
"RobEkra" <arke...@usa.com> wrote in messagenews:1176574613.644665.229310@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Physicists instinctively seem to recoil from the speculations in
popular journalism and fiction about where gravitational research
might be leading, and the 'bad science' in media reports of current
experiments tend to reinforce this perception. Amused tolerance and
perhaps an attempt to make the complexities of their work more
accessible to the average person might be more helpful.
A fascination with gravity is entirely understandable in the wider
population - after all, it affects their everyday lives in many
fundamental ways, and popular fiction, movies and comic books have fed
on this obsession for a century or more. Levitation, from Biblical
accounts through to modern times, has been the most obvious
manifestation of this.
More practically, the benefits that would result from an ability to
manipulate gravitational waves must be of fundamental interest to the
military/industrial complex worldwide.
What are the physicists' views of the real possibilities, and of the
treatment of gravity in popular fiction, such as 'The Ancient Order of
Moridura', a current example of the genre? Or is it beneath them to
take a view on such a topic - or too dangerous to a serious reputation?
Probably just too silly.
Dirk Vdm
I suppose many took that view in the 1920s and 30s about nuclear
fission, atom bombs, laser guns and space travel in popular fiction.
Most of H.G. Welles looks silly from a modern perspective, but I
suspect that he inspired a couple of generations of young scientists.
Most of Herbert George Wells looks silly from any perspective, but
I suspect that he inspired a couple of generations of young and old
cretins who sputter about big bangs, black holes, time dilation and
a host of other nonsense, not realizing Wells was writing FICTION.
Thanks for your input, gentlemen - it has been a revelation to me.
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| User: "Androcles" |
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| Title: Re: Does research into gravity point towards levitation? |
14 Apr 2007 03:57:53 PM |
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"RobEkra" <arkebor@usa.com> wrote in message =
news:1176583792.900778.200950@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 14, 9:22 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>
wrote:
"RobEkra" <arke...@usa.com> wrote in =
messagenews:1176575886.019144.136380@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 14, 7:28 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" =
<dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
SperM.hotmail.com> wrote:
"RobEkra" <arke...@usa.com> wrote in =
messagenews:1176574613.644665.229310@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Physicists instinctively seem to recoil from the speculations in
popular journalism and fiction about where gravitational =
research
might be leading, and the 'bad science' in media reports of =
current
experiments tend to reinforce this perception. Amused tolerance =
and
perhaps an attempt to make the complexities of their work more
accessible to the average person might be more helpful.
A fascination with gravity is entirely understandable in the =
wider
population - after all, it affects their everyday lives in many
fundamental ways, and popular fiction, movies and comic books =
have fed
on this obsession for a century or more. Levitation, from =
Biblical
accounts through to modern times, has been the most obvious
manifestation of this.
More practically, the benefits that would result from an ability =
to
manipulate gravitational waves must be of fundamental interest =
to the
military/industrial complex worldwide.
What are the physicists' views of the real possibilities, and of =
the
treatment of gravity in popular fiction, such as 'The Ancient =
Order of
Moridura', a current example of the genre? Or is it beneath them =
to
take a view on such a topic - or too dangerous to a serious =
reputation?
Probably just too silly.
Dirk Vdm
I suppose many took that view in the 1920s and 30s about nuclear
fission, atom bombs, laser guns and space travel in popular =
fiction.
Most of H.G. Welles looks silly from a modern perspective, but I
suspect that he inspired a couple of generations of young =
scientists.
Most of Herbert George Wells looks silly from any perspective, but
I suspect that he inspired a couple of generations of young and old
cretins who sputter about big bangs, black holes, time dilation and
a host of other nonsense, not realizing Wells was writing FICTION.
=20
Thanks for your input, gentlemen - it has been a revelation to me.
'Really, this is what is meant by the Fourth Dimension, though some =
people who talk about the Fourth Dimension do not know they mean it. It =
is only another way of looking at Time. There is no difference between =
Time and any of the three dimensions of Space except that our =
consciousness moves along with it.' -- Herbert George Wells - "The Time =
Machine" - 1895.
"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." =
--Einstein
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| User: "Dirk Van de moortel" |
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14 Apr 2007 02:33:32 PM |
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"RobEkra" <arkebor@usa.com> wrote in message news:1176575886.019144.136380@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 14, 7:28 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
SperM.hotmail.com> wrote:
"RobEkra" <arke...@usa.com> wrote in messagenews:1176574613.644665.229310@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Physicists instinctively seem to recoil from the speculations in
popular journalism and fiction about where gravitational research
might be leading, and the 'bad science' in media reports of current
experiments tend to reinforce this perception. Amused tolerance and
perhaps an attempt to make the complexities of their work more
accessible to the average person might be more helpful.
A fascination with gravity is entirely understandable in the wider
population - after all, it affects their everyday lives in many
fundamental ways, and popular fiction, movies and comic books have fed
on this obsession for a century or more. Levitation, from Biblical
accounts through to modern times, has been the most obvious
manifestation of this.
More practically, the benefits that would result from an ability to
manipulate gravitational waves must be of fundamental interest to the
military/industrial complex worldwide.
What are the physicists' views of the real possibilities, and of the
treatment of gravity in popular fiction, such as 'The Ancient Order of
Moridura', a current example of the genre? Or is it beneath them to
take a view on such a topic - or too dangerous to a serious reputation?
Probably just too silly.
Dirk Vdm
I suppose many took that view in the 1920s and 30s about nuclear
fission, atom bombs, laser guns and space travel in popular fiction.
Most of H.G. Welles looks silly from a modern perspective, but I
suspect that he inspired a couple of generations of young scientists.
Yes, like Carl Sagan is assumed to have expressed it: "They laughed
at Galileo, they laughed at Columbus, but they also laughed at Bozo
the Clown"
Dirk Vdm
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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14 Apr 2007 03:33:02 PM |
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In sci.physics, RobEkra
<arkebor@usa.com>
wrote
on 14 Apr 2007 11:16:53 -0700
<1176574613.644665.229310@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>:
Physicists instinctively seem to recoil from the speculations in
popular journalism and fiction about where gravitational research
might be leading, and the 'bad science' in media reports of current
experiments tend to reinforce this perception. Amused tolerance and
perhaps an attempt to make the complexities of their work more
accessible to the average person might be more helpful.
A fascination with gravity is entirely understandable in the wider
population - after all, it affects their everyday lives in many
fundamental ways, and popular fiction, movies and comic books have fed
on this obsession for a century or more. Levitation, from Biblical
accounts through to modern times, has been the most obvious
manifestation of this.
More practically, the benefits that would result from an ability to
manipulate gravitational waves must be of fundamental interest to the
military/industrial complex worldwide.
What are the physicists' views of the real possibilities, and of the
treatment of gravity in popular fiction, such as 'The Ancient Order of
Moridura', a current example of the genre? Or is it beneath them to
take a view on such a topic - or too dangerous to a serious reputation?
Mmmmmm...Cavorite. :-)
--
#191,
"640K ought to be enough for anybody."
- allegedly said by Bill Gates, 1981, but somebody had to make this up!
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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14 Apr 2007 08:13:05 PM |
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On Apr 14, 10:16 am, "RobEkra" <arke...@usa.com> wrote:
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No.
Gravitation is attractive - period.
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| User: "John \C" |
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14 Apr 2007 08:22:40 PM |
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"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176599585.311272.178980@w1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 14, 10:16 am, "RobEkra" <arke...@usa.com> wrote:
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No.
Gravitation is attractive - period.
And grows on ya like a fungus.
HJ
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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14 Apr 2007 10:22:05 PM |
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In sci.physics, John "C"
<honestjohn@centurytel.net>
wrote
on Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:22:40 -0500
<brSdnW3u6LAz47zbnZ2dnUVZ_uKknZ2d@centurytel.net>:
"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 14, 10:16 am, "RobEkra" <arke...@usa.com> wrote:
[...]
No.
Gravitation is attractive - period.
And grows on ya like a fungus.
HJ
Well, I for one do have a little problem; this 6 sextillion
metric tonne planet keeps sticking to my feet. ;-)
The good news: the planet keeps the air I need around as well.
The bad news: the only way I can think of removing it is
by climbing into a spacecraft and expending hundreds of
billions of joules of energy. Expensive! :-)
--
#191,
Useless C++ Programming Idea #12995733:
bool f(bool g, bool h) { if(g) h = true; else h = false; return h;}
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| User: "Igor" |
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14 Apr 2007 01:50:18 PM |
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On Apr 14, 2:16 pm, "RobEkra" <arke...@usa.com> wrote:
Physicists instinctively seem to recoil from the speculations in
popular journalism and fiction about where gravitational research
might be leading, and the 'bad science' in media reports of current
experiments tend to reinforce this perception. Amused tolerance and
perhaps an attempt to make the complexities of their work more
accessible to the average person might be more helpful.
A fascination with gravity is entirely understandable in the wider
population - after all, it affects their everyday lives in many
fundamental ways, and popular fiction, movies and comic books have fed
on this obsession for a century or more. Levitation, from Biblical
accounts through to modern times, has been the most obvious
manifestation of this.
More practically, the benefits that would result from an ability to
manipulate gravitational waves must be of fundamental interest to the
military/industrial complex worldwide.
What are the physicists' views of the real possibilities, and of the
treatment of gravity in popular fiction, such as 'The Ancient Order of
Moridura', a current example of the genre? Or is it beneath them to
take a view on such a topic - or too dangerous to a serious reputation?
The physicist's view of all of this is that things accelerate in the
direction of the local gravitational field, indepenent of their mass.
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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15 Apr 2007 08:48:23 PM |
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RobEkra wrote:
Physicists instinctively seem to recoil from the speculations in
popular journalism and fiction about where gravitational research
might be leading, and the 'bad science' in media reports of current
experiments tend to reinforce this perception. Amused tolerance and
perhaps an attempt to make the complexities of their work more
accessible to the average person might be more helpful.
A fascination with gravity is entirely understandable in the wider
population - after all, it affects their everyday lives in many
fundamental ways, and popular fiction, movies and comic books have fed
on this obsession for a century or more. Levitation, from Biblical
accounts through to modern times, has been the most obvious
manifestation of this.
More practically, the benefits that would result from an ability to
manipulate gravitational waves must be of fundamental interest to the
military/industrial complex worldwide.
What are the physicists' views of the real possibilities, and of the
treatment of gravity in popular fiction, such as 'The Ancient Order of
Moridura', a current example of the genre? Or is it beneath them to
take a view on such a topic - or too dangerous to a serious reputation?
Rob--you might invest in some self education, in areas such as
gravitation.
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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14 Apr 2007 05:43:42 PM |
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RobEkra wrote:
[snip crap]
No.
popular fiction, movies and comic books
[snip]
Levitation, from Biblical
accounts
[snip]
Idiot.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
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| User: "Androcles" |
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15 Apr 2007 01:17:35 AM |
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"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message =
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RobEkra wrote:
[snip crap]
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No.
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popular fiction, movies and comic books=20
[snip]
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Levitation, from Biblical
accounts
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Idiot.
1) GPS works.
2) Fuckhead.
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