Science > Physics > Does Superstrings Theory solve single electron interference?
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20 Aug 2005 02:20:44 AM |
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Does Superstrings Theory solve single electron interference? |
In the double slit where single electron can interfere with
itself as if it sends itself a copy to the other slit. Does
the superstring theory answer the mystery why it is so.
If it doesn't. Then it shouldn't be called a TOE.
Arnold
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| User: "Ben Rudiak-Gould" |
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| Title: Re: Does Superstrings Theory solve single electron interference? |
20 Aug 2005 11:50:12 AM |
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Arnold wrote:
In the double slit where single electron can interfere with
itself as if it sends itself a copy to the other slit. Does
the superstring theory answer the mystery why it is so.
Superstring theory has nothing to say on interpretational issues. It is just
another kind of quantum mechanics; it takes the basic quantum rules for granted.
-- Ben
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Does Superstrings Theory solve single electron interference? |
20 Aug 2005 09:02:35 AM |
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Arnold wrote:
In the double slit where single electron can interfere with
itself as if it sends itself a copy to the other slit. Does
the superstring theory answer the mystery why it is so.
If it doesn't. Then it shouldn't be called a TOE.
Arnold
QED covers the double slit phenomena.
String theory has yet to make *any* testable prediction!
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| User: "Arnold" |
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| Title: Re: Does Superstrings Theory solve single electron interference? |
20 Aug 2005 09:15:40 AM |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
Arnold wrote:
In the double slit where single electron can interfere with
itself as if it sends itself a copy to the other slit. Does
the superstring theory answer the mystery why it is so.
If it doesn't. Then it shouldn't be called a TOE.
Arnold
QED covers the double slit phenomena.
String theory has yet to make *any* testable prediction!
Gee. Of course I know particles can behave like waves.
But how the heck can the single electron or photon
goes to both slits and intefere with itself? The event
is simultaneous. We could understand it if the wave
first travel to both slits then the particles follow
the path. But this is not the case. The particle as wave
actually goes to both slits. How can that happen?? QED
and quantum mechanics don't answer this. This is what
made Feynman state it is the only mystery of QM. He is
the father of QED, he won't say it if there is no mystery
to it. I wonder how does superstrings treat the situation.
The vibrations of the strings can form the different
matter and forces. The strings has wave dynamics too.
But how can it travel to both slits at the same time.
It seems space as we know it may not be what it seems.
This is what disturbs me day and night. What's the
answer to the only mystery of QM as Feynman stated.
Has Superstrings indeed solve it? How if ever?
Arnold
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| User: "Bob Cain" |
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20 Aug 2005 09:17:21 PM |
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Arnold wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
Arnold wrote:
In the double slit where single electron can interfere with
itself as if it sends itself a copy to the other slit. Does
the superstring theory answer the mystery why it is so.
If it doesn't. Then it shouldn't be called a TOE.
Arnold
QED covers the double slit phenomena.
String theory has yet to make *any* testable prediction!
Gee. Of course I know particles can behave like waves.
But how the heck can the single electron or photon
goes to both slits and intefere with itself?
If I understood his little book, Feynman's approach went
further. He assumed it takes _all_ possible paths at once.
The probability of finding at any point is the magnitude
of the complex sum of rotating phasors passing along all
possible paths from where it was emmited to that point. The
pattern emerges from lots of single photons due to the
periodic variation of the probability of finding it at any
point on the screen.
Bob
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"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."
A. Einstein
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| User: "Edward Green" |
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20 Aug 2005 03:59:08 PM |
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Arnold wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
Arnold wrote:
In the double slit where single electron can interfere with
itself as if it sends itself a copy to the other slit. Does
the superstring theory answer the mystery why it is so.
If it doesn't. Then it shouldn't be called a TOE.
Arnold
QED covers the double slit phenomena.
String theory has yet to make *any* testable prediction!
Gee. Of course I know particles can behave like waves.
But how the heck can the single electron or photon
goes to both slits and intefere with itself?
Arnold, I don't know the answer, but anybody with a little imagination
can come up with several species of interpretation within the limits of
this supposed paradox. For example, have we conclusively ruled out
theories where the core of the particle travels through one slit, but
the wave disturbance in which it is embedded travels through both? I
call this the water-strider interpretation. And who the hell says that
the particle, whatever it is, can't travel through both slits? All we
know is, when we count, we only get dollars: there could be cents
flying around all over the place.
To obsess about the double slit experiment as if it were some great
conundrum of physics is foolish -- any theory which includes and
explains qm must pass many hurdles, but considering the double slit
experiment in isolation, it is trivial to come up with scenarios which
account for the observations.
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| User: "PD" |
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22 Aug 2005 11:25:53 AM |
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Arnold wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
Arnold wrote:
In the double slit where single electron can interfere with
itself as if it sends itself a copy to the other slit. Does
the superstring theory answer the mystery why it is so.
If it doesn't. Then it shouldn't be called a TOE.
Arnold
QED covers the double slit phenomena.
String theory has yet to make *any* testable prediction!
Gee. Of course I know particles can behave like waves.
But how the heck can the single electron or photon
goes to both slits and intefere with itself? The event
is simultaneous. We could understand it if the wave
first travel to both slits then the particles follow
the path. But this is not the case. The particle as wave
actually goes to both slits. How can that happen??
You're thinking of a particle as a particle, not a particle as a wave.
Imagine you're at a beach and there are two lifegard chairs fifty yards
apart on the beach. A *single* ocean wave can hit the beach and wash up
on the two lifeguard chairs simultaneously. That's the point of a wave.
In the same way, an electron as a wave can wash across both slits
simultaneously because a wave is something that is an *extended*
object.
An electron is *not* a little ball.
PD
QED
and quantum mechanics don't answer this. This is what
made Feynman state it is the only mystery of QM. He is
the father of QED, he won't say it if there is no mystery
to it. I wonder how does superstrings treat the situation.
The vibrations of the strings can form the different
matter and forces. The strings has wave dynamics too.
But how can it travel to both slits at the same time.
It seems space as we know it may not be what it seems.
This is what disturbs me day and night. What's the
answer to the only mystery of QM as Feynman stated.
Has Superstrings indeed solve it? How if ever?
Arnold
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| User: "the softrat" |
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20 Aug 2005 08:49:35 PM |
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On 20 Aug 2005 07:15:40 -0700, "Arnold" <arnoldschrod68@go.com> wrote:
Gee. Of course I know particles can behave like waves.
But how the heck can the single electron or photon
goes to both slits and intefere with itself?
It's a Mystery, Arnold, like "Why is the sky blue, Mommy?". Come back
when you have learned something......
Anything.....
HTH,
the softrat
Sometimes I get so tired of the taste of my own toes.
mailto:softrat@pobox.com
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99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name. -- Steven Wright
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| User: "the softrat" |
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| Title: Re: Does Superstrings Theory solve single electron interference? |
20 Aug 2005 03:37:24 AM |
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On 20 Aug 2005 00:20:44 -0700, "Arnold" <arnoldschrod68@go.com> wrote:
In the double slit where single electron can interfere with
itself as if it sends itself a copy to the other slit. Does
the superstring theory answer the mystery why it is so.
If it doesn't. Then it shouldn't be called a TOE.
Arnold
Superstring Theory doesn't have to. Quantum Mechanics figured that one
out in the 1920's or 30's.
the softrat
Sometimes I get so tired of the taste of my own toes.
mailto:softrat@pobox.com
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Baba ganoosh ganache Ganesh!
Baba ganoosh ganache!
--culinary cheer for the elephant god
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| User: "Arnold" |
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| Title: Re: Does Superstrings Theory solve single electron interference? |
20 Aug 2005 04:10:46 AM |
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the softrat wrote:
On 20 Aug 2005 00:20:44 -0700, "Arnold" <arnoldschrod68@go.com> wrote:
In the double slit where single electron can interfere with
itself as if it sends itself a copy to the other slit. Does
the superstring theory answer the mystery why it is so.
If it doesn't. Then it shouldn't be called a TOE.
Arnold
Superstring Theory doesn't have to. Quantum Mechanics figured that one
out in the 1920's or 30's.
the softrat
Sometimes I get so tired of the taste of my own toes.
mailto:softrat@pobox.com
--
Baba ganoosh ganache Ganesh!
Baba ganoosh ganache!
--culinary cheer for the elephant god
Mathematically yes, but what's the physical mechanism. This
is why they propose the Many World Interpretation, Sum over
paths, etc. I wonder what's Superstrings version of it.. like
what is the physical correlates of the wave function being
possibly not just a mathematical function. 50 years later.
Feynman commented how it is the only mystery of quantum
mechanics... the single photon or electron double slit
experiment. So the causal mechanism is far from solved.
If you will model it using superstrings. I wonder what is
the range of possibility left for why and how it occured
or the underlying causal mechanism.
Arnold
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| User: "Martin Hogbin" |
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20 Aug 2005 04:46:28 AM |
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"Arnold" <arnoldschrod68@go.com> wrote in message news:1124529046.875553.91320@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
the softrat wrote:
On 20 Aug 2005 00:20:44 -0700, "Arnold" <arnoldschrod68@go.com> wrote:
In the double slit where single electron can interfere with
itself as if it sends itself a copy to the other slit. Does
the superstring theory answer the mystery why it is so.
If it doesn't. Then it shouldn't be called a TOE.
Arnold
Superstring Theory doesn't have to. Quantum Mechanics figured that one
out in the 1920's or 30's.
the softrat
Sometimes I get so tired of the taste of my own toes.
mailto:softrat@pobox.com
--
Baba ganoosh ganache Ganesh!
Baba ganoosh ganache!
--culinary cheer for the elephant god
Mathematically yes, but what's the physical mechanism.
Mechanism schmecanism.
Martin Hogbin
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| User: "Bob Cain" |
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| Title: Re: Does Superstrings Theory solve single electron interference? |
20 Aug 2005 08:48:36 PM |
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Arnold wrote:
Feynman commented how it is the only mystery of quantum
mechanics... the single photon or electron double slit
experiment. So the causal mechanism is far from solved.
Didn't his path integral theory do precisely that?
Bob
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"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."
A. Einstein
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| User: "Nick" |
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| Title: Re: Does Superstrings Theory solve single electron interference? |
20 Aug 2005 08:58:51 PM |
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That's what I say Arn.
It only explains matter not waves or space-time.
It only assumes GR and QM so it can not be
called a Theory of Everything!!!
String theory really is a bunch of boloney.
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