"PD" <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Spaceman wrote:
| > "PD" <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:1140107700.804088.221400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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| > | Spaceman wrote:
| > | > "PD" <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:1140098737.453678.317390@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
| > | > |
| > | > | Spaceman wrote:
| > | > | > "PD" <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:1140045474.527533.65880@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | > | You mean, as an example of "some cases"?
| > | > | > | This happens colliding protons on protons, for example. But it
| > also
| > | > | > | happens colliding protons on lead bricks.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > I am talking about trying to get FTL speeds
| > | > | > from Protons hitting something, how small would that
| > | > | > "something" have to be to get such a faster hit?
| > | > | > mass vs mass.
| > | > | > :)
| > | > | >
| > | > | > If the proton was doing 0.9c what mass would have to
| > | > | > be hit by the proton for it to "newtonianly" hit c or even pass
c
| > | > | > by just the basic KE type thinking?
| > | > |
| > | > | In an elastic collision, the relative velocity between the two
| > | > | colliding objects stays the same, "newtonianly". If one of the
| > | > | colliding objects is big enough where it doesn't slow down much,
this
| > | > | can have dramatic effects, "newtonianly". For example, a baseball
| > | > | pitched at 90 mph comes at a bat swung at 60 mph, for a relative
| > | > | velocity of 150 mph. After the impact, the bat doesn't slow down
much,
| > | > | because it is attached to the mass of the batter's body, and so it
| > | > | continues on at, say, 58 mph. This means that the baseball heads
| > toward
| > | > | the outfield at 208 mph. This is why a baseball can be hit into
the
| > | > | bleachers even if it can't be thrown into the bleachers, even
though
| > | > | the bat is going slower than the pitcher's arm.
| > | > |
| > | > | I'll let you figure out how this applies to a proton and what it
would
| > | > | have to hit to go faster than c, "newtonianly". It turns out that
it's
| > | > | not a very demanding requirement. And so the fact that we can NOT
get
| > | > | it going faster than c "newtonianly" is significant.
| > | >
| > | > All very nice stuff, but no answer of course.
| > |
| > | As I said in another area, I see no reason to spoonfeed you. If you
| > | want a fish, I'll bait the hook and hand you the rod. You catch the
| > | fish.
| >
| > Handing a man a fishing pole and yet not knowing how to fish
| > yourself is a sad way to feed people.
|
| When someone hands you a fishing pole complete with bait, it's not wise
| to say, "I asked you for a fish. You must not know how to fish!"

When someone asks for a fish and someone that does not know how to
fish hands you the pole, you say fine, move on moron, I will
get the fish myself and you will never realize how I got it.
PD, you will never learn how to fish it seems.
You keep handing the pole off to others to learn when you have
not learned yourself yet.
I try tro teach you how to fish, but you say the fish I catch
are not fish..

You truly have a problem.