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"Spaceman" |
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12 Feb 2006 06:33:42 PM |
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Doppler effect on the speed of light |
If light is supposely constant for all,
how could a doppler effect happen at all
to light without a relative speed being the cause?
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| User: "OG" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
12 Feb 2006 06:38:51 PM |
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"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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If light is supposely constant for all,
how could a doppler effect happen at all
to light without a relative speed being the cause?
Look it up on google and think about it a bit.
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
12 Feb 2006 06:42:02 PM |
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"OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
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| "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
| news:O42dnSHWvqF9TnLenZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
| > If light is supposely constant for all,
| > how could a doppler effect happen at all
| > to light without a relative speed being the cause?
| >
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| Look it up on google and think about it a bit.
You don't know huh?
Google does not have "proof" of such either.
Seems there is a problem with it.
:)
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| User: "OG" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
12 Feb 2006 06:57:50 PM |
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"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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| "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
| news:O42dnSHWvqF9TnLenZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
| > If light is supposely constant for all,
| > how could a doppler effect happen at all
| > to light without a relative speed being the cause?
| >
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| Look it up on google and think about it a bit.
You don't know huh?
Google does not have "proof" of such either.
Seems there is a problem with it.
how
http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s2-04/2-04.htm
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
12 Feb 2006 07:10:24 PM |
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"OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
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| "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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| > "OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
| > news:45a2osF5m276U1@individual.net...
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| > | "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
| > | news:O42dnSHWvqF9TnLenZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
| > | > If light is supposely constant for all,
| > | > how could a doppler effect happen at all
| > | > to light without a relative speed being the cause?
| > | >
| > |
| > | Look it up on google and think about it a bit.
| >
| > You don't know huh?
| > Google does not have "proof" of such either.
| > Seems there is a problem with it.
|
| how
| http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s2-04/2-04.htm
Nope,
Just a bunch of crap there.
Let's play again.
If a lightwave passes a ship heading towards it,
Lets say the ship is traveling at 0.5 c towards the
light source.
How can doppler occur if lightspeed is the same
for both the ship and the source?
If light speed is the same for the ship as it is
for the source, then it will pass by the ship at 1c
and no doppler shift would occur at all.
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| User: "OG" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
12 Feb 2006 07:15:32 PM |
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"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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"OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
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| "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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| > "OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
| > news:45a2osF5m276U1@individual.net...
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| > | "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
| > | news:O42dnSHWvqF9TnLenZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
| > | > If light is supposely constant for all,
| > | > how could a doppler effect happen at all
| > | > to light without a relative speed being the cause?
| > | >
| > |
| > | Look it up on google and think about it a bit.
| >
| > You don't know huh?
| > Google does not have "proof" of such either.
| > Seems there is a problem with it.
|
| how
| http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s2-04/2-04.htm
Nope,
Just a bunch of crap there.
Let's play again.
If a lightwave passes a ship heading towards it,
Lets say the ship is traveling at 0.5 c towards the
light source.
How can doppler occur if lightspeed is the same
for both the ship and the source?
If light speed is the same for the ship as it is
for the source, then it will pass by the ship at 1c
and no doppler shift would occur at all.
Are you prepared to try and understand?
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
12 Feb 2006 07:21:10 PM |
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"OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
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| "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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| >
| > "OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
| > news:45a3sfF5kdi6U1@individual.net...
| > |
| > | "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
| > | news:f9udnU2j8stISHLeRVn-sg@comcast.com...
| > | >
| > | > "OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
| > | > news:45a2osF5m276U1@individual.net...
| > | > |
| > | > | "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
| > | > | news:O42dnSHWvqF9TnLenZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
| > | > | > If light is supposely constant for all,
| > | > | > how could a doppler effect happen at all
| > | > | > to light without a relative speed being the cause?
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > | Look it up on google and think about it a bit.
| > | >
| > | > You don't know huh?
| > | > Google does not have "proof" of such either.
| > | > Seems there is a problem with it.
| > |
| > | how
| > | http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s2-04/2-04.htm
| >
| > Nope,
| > Just a bunch of crap there.
| >
| > Let's play again.
| > If a lightwave passes a ship heading towards it,
| > Lets say the ship is traveling at 0.5 c towards the
| > light source.
| > How can doppler occur if lightspeed is the same
| > for both the ship and the source?
| > If light speed is the same for the ship as it is
| > for the source, then it will pass by the ship at 1c
| > and no doppler shift would occur at all.
| >
|
| Are you prepared to try and understand?
Yes, to logical statements that will show such answers.
Go on.
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| User: "OG" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
13 Feb 2006 01:32:51 PM |
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"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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| "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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| > "OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
| > news:45a3sfF5kdi6U1@individual.net...
| > |
| > | "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
| > | news:f9udnU2j8stISHLeRVn-sg@comcast.com...
| > | >
| > | > "OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
| > | > news:45a2osF5m276U1@individual.net...
| > | > |
| > | > | "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
| > | > | news:O42dnSHWvqF9TnLenZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
| > | > | > If light is supposely constant for all,
| > | > | > how could a doppler effect happen at all
| > | > | > to light without a relative speed being the cause?
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > | Look it up on google and think about it a bit.
| > | >
| > | > You don't know huh?
| > | > Google does not have "proof" of such either.
| > | > Seems there is a problem with it.
| > |
| > | how
| > | http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s2-04/2-04.htm
| >
| > Nope,
| > Just a bunch of crap there.
| >
| > Let's play again.
| > If a lightwave passes a ship heading towards it,
| > Lets say the ship is traveling at 0.5 c towards the
| > light source.
| > How can doppler occur if lightspeed is the same
| > for both the ship and the source?
| > If light speed is the same for the ship as it is
| > for the source, then it will pass by the ship at 1c
| > and no doppler shift would occur at all.
| >
|
| Are you prepared to try and understand?
Yes, to logical statements that will show such answers.
Go on.
Hang on, it sounds as thought you are only prepared to take heed of
statements that support your mistaken views. Is that right?
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
13 Feb 2006 02:08:34 PM |
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"OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
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| "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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| > "OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
| > news:45a4tlF5lil8U1@individual.net...
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| > | "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
| > | news:94mdnZ-1At8cQXLenZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com...
| > | >
| > | > "OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
| > | > news:45a3sfF5kdi6U1@individual.net...
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| > | > | "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
| > | > | news:f9udnU2j8stISHLeRVn-sg@comcast.com...
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| > | > | > "OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:45a2osF5m276U1@individual.net...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
| > | > | > | news:O42dnSHWvqF9TnLenZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
| > | > | > | > If light is supposely constant for all,
| > | > | > | > how could a doppler effect happen at all
| > | > | > | > to light without a relative speed being the cause?
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Look it up on google and think about it a bit.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > You don't know huh?
| > | > | > Google does not have "proof" of such either.
| > | > | > Seems there is a problem with it.
| > | > |
| > | > | how
| > | > | http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s2-04/2-04.htm
| > | >
| > | > Nope,
| > | > Just a bunch of crap there.
| > | >
| > | > Let's play again.
| > | > If a lightwave passes a ship heading towards it,
| > | > Lets say the ship is traveling at 0.5 c towards the
| > | > light source.
| > | > How can doppler occur if lightspeed is the same
| > | > for both the ship and the source?
| > | > If light speed is the same for the ship as it is
| > | > for the source, then it will pass by the ship at 1c
| > | > and no doppler shift would occur at all.
| > | >
| > |
| > | Are you prepared to try and understand?
| >
| > Yes, to logical statements that will show such answers.
| > Go on.
|
| Hang on, it sounds as thought you are only prepared to take heed of
| statements that support your mistaken views. Is that right?
It is "as right" as you will be doing.
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
12 Feb 2006 07:34:08 PM |
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OG wrote:
"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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"OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
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| "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
| news:f9udnU2j8stISHLeRVn-sg@comcast.com...
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| > "OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
| > news:45a2osF5m276U1@individual.net...
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| > | "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
| > | news:O42dnSHWvqF9TnLenZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
| > | > If light is supposely constant for all,
| > | > how could a doppler effect happen at all
| > | > to light without a relative speed being the cause?
| > | >
| > |
| > | Look it up on google and think about it a bit.
| >
| > You don't know huh?
| > Google does not have "proof" of such either.
| > Seems there is a problem with it.
|
| how
| http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s2-04/2-04.htm
Nope,
Just a bunch of crap there.
Let's play again.
If a lightwave passes a ship heading towards it,
Lets say the ship is traveling at 0.5 c towards the
light source.
How can doppler occur if lightspeed is the same
for both the ship and the source?
If light speed is the same for the ship as it is
for the source, then it will pass by the ship at 1c
and no doppler shift would occur at all.
Are you prepared to try and understand?
No. He isn't.
Spaceshit doesn't learn, EVER. I don't see why you expect thim to.
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
12 Feb 2006 06:53:38 PM |
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Spitshit wrote:
"OG" <owen@gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote in message
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| "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
| news:O42dnSHWvqF9TnLenZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
| > If light is supposely constant for all,
| > how could a doppler effect happen at all
| > to light without a relative speed being the cause?
| >
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| Look it up on google and think about it a bit.
You don't know huh?
Google does not have "proof" of such either.
Seems there is a problem with it.
:)
Spitshit, you don't understand Doppler shift... it has to
do with measured shifts in frequency and wavelength of
the EM radiation and is observer dependent. The speed of
light is a fundamental constant of nature and is observer
independent.
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
12 Feb 2006 06:57:53 PM |
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"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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| Spitshit, you don't understand Doppler shift... it has to
| do with measured shifts in frequency and wavelength of
| the EM radiation and is observer dependent. The speed of
| light is a fundamental constant of nature and is observer
| independent.
Sam,
You like to cause conflict in your own statements huh?
You just stated doppler shift in light can not
occur from relative speed differences!
ROFLOL
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
12 Feb 2006 07:01:02 PM |
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Spaceman wrote:
"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:mMQHf.771687$_o.214695@attbi_s71...
| Spitshit, you don't understand Doppler shift... it has to
| do with measured shifts in frequency and wavelength of
| the EM radiation and is observer dependent. The speed of
| light is a fundamental constant of nature and is observer
| independent.
Sam,
You like to cause conflict in your own statements huh?
You just stated doppler shift in light can not
occur from relative speed differences!
ROFLOL
That's what you think, spitshit... I'll state it again for you.
Spitshit, you don't understand Doppler shift... it has to
do with measured shifts in frequency and wavelength of
the EM radiation and is observer dependent. The speed of
light is a fundamental constant of nature and is observer
independent.
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
12 Feb 2006 07:13:13 PM |
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"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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| That's what you think, spitshit... I'll state it again for you.
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| Spitshit, you don't understand Doppler shift... it has to
| do with measured shifts in frequency and wavelength of
| the EM radiation and is observer dependent.
Measured shifts in frequency of light can only occur
with medium changes and/or relative speed differences.
(same is true about wavelength)
Remove the medium for light in vacuum and you are left
with relative speed differences only.
| The speed of
| light is a fundamental constant of nature and is observer
| independent.
So light speed will not allow doppler shift with relative
speeds only because it will be 1c for all?
LOL
what a bunch of crock!
LOL
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
12 Feb 2006 07:37:57 PM |
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Spaceman wrote:
"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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| That's what you think, spitshit... I'll state it again for you.
|
| Spitshit, you don't understand Doppler shift... it has to
| do with measured shifts in frequency and wavelength of
| the EM radiation and is observer dependent.
Measured shifts in frequency of light can only occur
with medium changes and/or relative speed differences.
(same is true about wavelength)
Remove the medium for light in vacuum and you are left
with relative speed differences only.
| The speed of
| light is a fundamental constant of nature and is observer
| independent.
So light speed will not allow doppler shift with relative
speeds only because it will be 1c for all?
LOL
what a bunch of crock!
LOL
Doppler Effect
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/DopplerEffect.html
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
12 Feb 2006 07:42:42 PM |
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"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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| Doppler Effect
| http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/DopplerEffect.html
Sam,
your links are a joke.
If I wanted links, I would simply use Google.
Why do you not get that simple fact.
I don't care about your links.
I care about the discussion about the links themselves.
To bad you don't get the fact that this group is for
such discussion and not just a link gathering place.
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
12 Feb 2006 08:14:38 PM |
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Spaceman wrote:
"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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| Doppler Effect
| http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/DopplerEffect.html
Sam,
your links are a joke.
If I wanted links, I would simply use Google.
Why do you not get that simple fact.
I don't care about your links.
I care about the discussion about the links themselves.
To bad you don't get the fact that this group is for
such discussion and not just a link gathering place.
It not the links themselves, spitshit, it the definition of
velocity, speed, etc. that you a don't appear to have a clue
about. You probably to understand a little more than you
pretend to, but then that your detract from your troll posts.
Aren't you glad nice guys like us don't call you "a despicable
lying sack of *****"? But then we are nice guys.
But there is little doubt you are a bandwidth wasting troll.
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
12 Feb 2006 08:16:50 PM |
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"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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| It not the links themselves, spitshit, it the definition of
| velocity, speed, etc. that you a don't appear to have a clue
| about.
Actually,
It is you that seems to not read the dang link that
actually agrees with me.
The link merely states what I have been stating
a meter = a speed.
If you can not grasp that simple fact, you truly are
brainwashed beyond help.
Your links are only confirming my statements and you
don't even realize they do.
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
13 Feb 2006 01:25:07 PM |
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Spaceman wrote:
"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:iYRHf.771894$_o.407327@attbi_s71...
| It not the links themselves, spitshit, it the definition of
| velocity, speed, etc. that you a don't appear to have a clue
| about.
Actually,
It is you that seems to not read the dang link that
actually agrees with me.
The link merely states what I have been stating
a meter = a speed.
Congratulations, spaceshit. You are hopelessly stupid.
Distance is not velocity.
If you can not grasp that simple fact, you truly are
brainwashed beyond help.
Your links are only confirming my statements and you
don't even realize they do.
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
13 Feb 2006 01:34:35 PM |
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"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Congratulations, spaceshit. You are hopelessly stupid.
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| Distance is not velocity.
It is in the definition of the meter Eric.
1 meter = 1 meter per an amount of time
a distance = a speed
Too bad you can not see such an obvious fact.
You are the hopelessy stupid.
You can not even see something that has been
in front of your face for a long time now.
LOL
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| User: "Greg Neill" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
13 Feb 2006 01:39:02 PM |
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"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Congratulations, spaceshit. You are hopelessly stupid.
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| Distance is not velocity.
It is in the definition of the meter Eric.
1 meter = 1 meter per an amount of time
Nonsense. You can't even write a simple
expression to match what you try to say
in words!
1 meter = speed of light x time interval
= c*t
= distance
a distance = a distance
So I guess you failed math too, since you could
not possible have worked any of the "story"
problems.
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
13 Feb 2006 02:11:31 PM |
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"Greg Neill" <gneillREM@OVE.THIS.netcom.ca> wrote in message
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| "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
| news:J5SdnTe0r-bZQm3enZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
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| > "Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:1139858707.395286.31920@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
| > | Congratulations, spaceshit. You are hopelessly stupid.
| > |
| > | Distance is not velocity.
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| > It is in the definition of the meter Eric.
| > 1 meter = 1 meter per an amount of time
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| Nonsense. You can't even write a simple
| expression to match what you try to say
| in words!
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| 1 meter = speed of light x time interval
| = c*t
| = distance
*****
It states a "distance light travels" / "a part of a second".
(a speed)
| a distance = a distance
Yes, but that is not what it states.
You are a fool
It states
a distance = a speed.
and..
You are blind if you can not see such.
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| User: "Greg Neill" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
13 Feb 2006 02:30:06 PM |
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"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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"Greg Neill" <gneillREM@OVE.THIS.netcom.ca> wrote in message
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| "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
| news:J5SdnTe0r-bZQm3enZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
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| > "Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:1139858707.395286.31920@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
| > | Congratulations, spaceshit. You are hopelessly stupid.
| > |
| > | Distance is not velocity.
| >
| > It is in the definition of the meter Eric.
| > 1 meter = 1 meter per an amount of time
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| Nonsense. You can't even write a simple
| expression to match what you try to say
| in words!
|
| 1 meter = speed of light x time interval
| = c*t
| = distance
*****
It states a "distance light travels" / "a part of a second".
(a speed)
See? You can't even translate a simple statement of
a relationship in mathematical terms.
It's the distance that light travels in a specific
time interval. d = v*t. Grade school kids can do this
effortlessly. Why not you?
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
13 Feb 2006 03:08:12 PM |
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"Greg Neill" <gneillREM@OVE.THIS.netcom.ca> wrote in message
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| See? You can't even translate a simple statement of
| a relationship in mathematical terms.
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| It's the distance that light travels in a specific
| time interval.
that is also a speed you freakin' dipwad!
1 meter per 1/299,792,458 of a second
LOL
| d = v*t. Grade school kids can do this
| effortlessly. Why not you?
Grade school kids can see what I am saying also
Greg.
Too bad you can't.
LOL
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| User: "Greg Neill" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
13 Feb 2006 03:11:11 PM |
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"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message news:TYKdnTJbGbeoaG3eRVn-qw@comcast.com...
"Greg Neill" <gneillREM@OVE.THIS.netcom.ca> wrote in message
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| See? You can't even translate a simple statement of
| a relationship in mathematical terms.
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| It's the distance that light travels in a specific
| time interval.
that is also a speed you freakin' dipwad!
1 meter per 1/299,792,458 of a second
One meter is the *distance* that light travels
*in* 1/299,792,458 of a second.
James can't do "story" problems.
| d = v*t. Grade school kids can do this
| effortlessly. Why not you?
Grade school kids can see what I am saying also
Greg.
Yes, and they would think it highly amusing that an
adult get's something so simple so wrong.
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
13 Feb 2006 03:32:50 PM |
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"Greg Neill" <gneillREM@OVE.THIS.netcom.ca> wrote in message
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| "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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| > "Greg Neill" <gneillREM@OVE.THIS.netcom.ca> wrote in message
| > news:P_5If.13792$T35.248416@news20.bellglobal.com...
| > | See? You can't even translate a simple statement of
| > | a relationship in mathematical terms.
| > |
| > | It's the distance that light travels in a specific
| > | time interval.
| >
| > that is also a speed you freakin' dipwad!
| > 1 meter per 1/299,792,458 of a second
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| One meter is the *distance* that light travels
| *in* 1/299,792,458 of a second.
Yup,
that is a speed.
1 meter per 1/299,792,458 of a second.
DUH!
| James can't do "story" problems.
Greg has no clue what a speed is.
No story about it at all.
LOL
| Yes, and they would think it highly amusing that an
| adult get's something so simple so wrong.
Yes, it is pretty funny you can't grasp it.
LOL
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| User: "Greg Neill" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
13 Feb 2006 03:41:36 PM |
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"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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"Greg Neill" <gneillREM@OVE.THIS.netcom.ca> wrote in message
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| "Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message
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| > "Greg Neill" <gneillREM@OVE.THIS.netcom.ca> wrote in message
| > news:P_5If.13792$T35.248416@news20.bellglobal.com...
| > | See? You can't even translate a simple statement of
| > | a relationship in mathematical terms.
| > |
| > | It's the distance that light travels in a specific
| > | time interval.
| >
| > that is also a speed you freakin' dipwad!
| > 1 meter per 1/299,792,458 of a second
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| One meter is the *distance* that light travels
| *in* 1/299,792,458 of a second.
Yup,
that is a speed.
1 meter per 1/299,792,458 of a second.
The meter is being defined, not the speed of light;
The definition is for the meter, not the speed of
light. So saying "1 meter per..." would be a
either a circular reference, or a definition of
the speed of light given an already defined meter.
The meter is defined to be the distance that light
travels in a given time. The distance, James.
DUH!
DUH! Indeed!
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
13 Feb 2006 04:09:15 PM |
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"Greg Neill" <gneillREM@OVE.THIS.netcom.ca> wrote in message
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| The meter is being defined, not the speed of light;
| The definition is for the meter, not the speed of
| light. So saying "1 meter per..." would be a
| either a circular reference, or a definition of
| the speed of light given an already defined meter.
The definition is what is stating that.
so.
You are the one accepting such a circular reference
and don't even realize it.
1 distance per 1/299,792,458 of a second = a speed
hence
a meter = a speed.
It is the definition you have accepted and I
am laughing at you for not realizing how stupid
it actually is.
LOL
| The meter is defined to be the distance that light
| travels in a given time. The distance, James.
That distance is a speed by definition.
Too bad you are too stupid to realize it.
ROFLOL
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| User: "Greg Neill" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
13 Feb 2006 04:22:38 PM |
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"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message news:pq6dnQ9_PtEZnmzeRVn-ow@comcast.com...
| The meter is defined to be the distance that light
| travels in a given time. The distance, James.
That distance is a speed by definition.
Too bad you are too stupid to realize it.
The meter is not defined prior to the application
of the standards procedure. That you cannot tell
the difference between the distance something
goes in a specified time and the velocity of
that something is not my problem. But it is
yours.
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
13 Feb 2006 04:50:39 PM |
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"Greg Neill" <gneillREM@OVE.THIS.netcom.ca> wrote in message
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| The meter is not defined prior to the application
| of the standards procedure.
LOL
you truly are full of good ones!
LOL
| That you cannot tell
| the difference between the distance something
| goes in a specified time and the velocity of
| that something is not my problem. But it is
| yours.
distance per time = speed
and
a meter = a distance per 1/299,792,458 of a second
the meter = a distance per a time
the meter = a speed.
What is truly funny about this is that you can not
grasp that you can not prove me wrong at all
since it is, by definition, what is basically stated.
LOL
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| User: "Greg Neill" |
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| Title: Re: Doppler effect on the speed of light |
13 Feb 2006 04:53:54 PM |
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"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote in message news:-MednR5BPMulkGzeRVn-ow@comcast.com...
"Greg Neill" <gneillREM@OVE.THIS.netcom.ca> wrote in message
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| The meter is not defined prior to the application
| of the standards procedure.
LOL
you truly are full of good ones!
LOL
| That you cannot tell
| the difference between the distance something
| goes in a specified time and the velocity of
| that something is not my problem. But it is
| yours.
distance per time = speed
Distance in one specific time is the distance. The
time is irrelevant to the mesaurement (or copying)
of the given distance. That the light goes on to
repeat the feat of covering the same distance every
multiple of the specific time interval is irrelevant
to the definition.
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