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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "gravman"
Date: 23 Jun 2007 11:10:04 AM
Object: Einstein is dead
Einstein is dead
There is no spacetime, and gravity for sure is not a "curvature of space"!
The concept of spacetime is bad.
Studying GR is a waste of time; it is a false theory,
and is made unnecessarily too complex by combining
space and time to a 4D (not to mention the even higher
dimensions of String Theory idiocy).
What happened to Occam's Razor?!
It is due to some religious fanatics (lobbying, terrorizing, funding, marketing)
that prevents the scientific establishment to abonden Einstein,
and return to scientific principals.
I'm anncouncing the world that I've decided to develop my own
theory-of-everything which will be simple and intuitive, and will work
the same from the microscopic (quantum) to the macroscopic scale (universe).
.

User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 23 Jun 2007 03:10:41 PM
"gravman" <gravman@gravmangravman.man> wrote in message
news:f5jguu$er5$1@aioe.org...
: Einstein is dead
:
: There is no spacetime, and gravity for sure is not a "curvature of space"!
: The concept of spacetime is bad.
:
: Studying GR is a waste of time; it is a false theory,
: and is made unnecessarily too complex by combining
: space and time to a 4D (not to mention the even higher
: dimensions of String Theory idiocy).
:
: What happened to Occam's Razor?!
:
: It is due to some religious fanatics (lobbying, terrorizing, funding,
marketing)
: that prevents the scientific establishment to abonden Einstein,
: and return to scientific principals.
:
: I'm anncouncing the world that I've decided to develop my own
: theory-of-everything which will be simple and intuitive, and will work
: the same from the microscopic (quantum) to the macroscopic scale
(universe).
You are 300 years too late.
http://members.tripod.com/~gravitee/
.

User: "Martin Hogbin"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 23 Jun 2007 11:40:01 AM
"gravman" <gravman@gravmangravman.man> wrote in message news:f5jguu$er5$1@aioe.org...

Einstein is dead

There is no spacetime, and gravity for sure is not a "curvature of space"!
The concept of spacetime is bad.

Studying GR is a waste of time; it is a false theory,
and is made unnecessarily too complex by combining
space and time to a 4D (not to mention the even higher
dimensions of String Theory idiocy).

What happened to Occam's Razor?!

It is due to some religious fanatics (lobbying, terrorizing, funding, marketing)
that prevents the scientific establishment to abonden Einstein,
and return to scientific principals.

I'm anncouncing the world that I've decided to develop my own
theory-of-everything which will be simple and intuitive, and will work
the same from the microscopic (quantum) to the macroscopic scale (universe).

No relation to Spaceman I suppose.
--
Martin Hogbin
.
User: "John Christiansen"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 23 Jun 2007 11:39:17 AM
"Martin Hogbin" <goatREMOVETHIS123@hogbin.org> skrev i en meddelelse
news:SdadnQOwx_WS1-DbnZ2dnUVZ8qugnZ2d@bt.com...


"gravman" <gravman@gravmangravman.man> wrote in message
news:f5jguu$er5$1@aioe.org...

Einstein is dead

There is no spacetime, and gravity for sure is not a "curvature of
space"!
The concept of spacetime is bad.

Studying GR is a waste of time; it is a false theory,
and is made unnecessarily too complex by combining
space and time to a 4D (not to mention the even higher
dimensions of String Theory idiocy).

What happened to Occam's Razor?!

It is due to some religious fanatics (lobbying, terrorizing, funding,
marketing)
that prevents the scientific establishment to abonden Einstein,
and return to scientific principals.

I'm anncouncing the world that I've decided to develop my own
theory-of-everything which will be simple and intuitive, and will work
the same from the microscopic (quantum) to the macroscopic scale
(universe).


No relation to Spaceman I suppose.


I hope they are one and the same, two of that kind would be too much.
John Christiansen

--
Martin Hogbin



.

User: ""

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 23 Jun 2007 11:42:03 AM
On Jun 23, 9:40 pm, "Martin Hogbin" <goatREMOVETHIS...@hogbin.org>
wrote:

"gravman" <grav...@gravmangravman.man> wrote in messagenews:f5jguu$er5$1@aioe.org...

Einstein is dead


There is no spacetime, and gravity for sure is not a "curvature of space"!
The concept of spacetime is bad.


Studying GR is a waste of time; it is a false theory,
and is made unnecessarily too complex by combining
space and time to a 4D (not to mention the even higher
dimensions of String Theory idiocy).


What happened to Occam's Razor?!


It is due to some religious fanatics (lobbying, terrorizing, funding, marketing)
that prevents the scientific establishment to abonden Einstein,
and return to scientific principals.


I'm anncouncing the world that I've decided to develop my own
theory-of-everything which will be simple and intuitive, and will work
the same from the microscopic (quantum) to the macroscopic scale (universe).


No relation to Spaceman I suppose.

--
Martin Hogbin- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It is hard title. Einstein will remain always alive in science.
There is website
which proposes
* extension in E=mc2*
http://www.ajayonline.us
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User: "Dono"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 23 Jun 2007 11:48:20 AM
On Jun 23, 9:42 am,
wrote:

There is website
which proposes
* extension in E=mc2*

http://www.ajayonline.us- Hide quoted text -

Yep, another garbage website :
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=-zg8GxEAAAB1tI1zKJXskiR9gO3Rh4fjkdEasx1kiYTQavV7mdW13Q
.
User: "The Ghost In The Machine"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 23 Jun 2007 12:14:37 PM
In sci.physics.relativity, Dono
<sa_ge@comcast.net>
wrote
on Sat, 23 Jun 2007 09:48:20 -0700
<1182617300.392340.231770@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com>:

On Jun 23, 9:42 am,

wrote:

There is website
which proposes
* extension in E=mc2*

http://www.ajayonline.us- Hide quoted text -

Yep, another garbage website :

http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=-zg8GxEAAAB1tI1zKJXskiR9gO3Rh4fjkdEasx1kiYTQavV7mdW13Q

And E = mc^2 has been wrong for many many years anyway.
E^2 = m^2c^4 + p^2c^2 is the more complicated but more correct variant,
although it may depend on how one interprets 'm'.
--
#191,

Murphy was an optimist.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
.




User: "Dirk Van de moortel"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 23 Jun 2007 01:13:25 PM
"gravman" <gravman@gravmangravman.man> wrote in message news:f5jguu$er5$1@aioe.org...

Einstein is dead

There is no spacetime, and gravity for sure is not a "curvature of space"!
The concept of spacetime is bad.

Studying GR is a waste of time; it is a false theory,
and is made unnecessarily too complex by combining
space and time to a 4D (not to mention the even higher
dimensions of String Theory idiocy).

What happened to Occam's Razor?!

It is due to some religious fanatics (lobbying, terrorizing, funding, marketing)
that prevents the scientific establishment to abonden Einstein,
and return to scientific principals.

I'm anncouncing the world that I've decided to develop my own
theory-of-everything which will be simple and intuitive, and will work
the same from the microscopic (quantum) to the macroscopic scale (universe).

I hope you realize what and whom you are up against.
You will face some stiff competition.
Seto was there first, you know.
Dirk Vdm
.

User: "Rock Brentwood"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 25 Jun 2007 03:22:38 AM
On Jun 23, 11:10 am, "gravman" <grav...@gravmangravman.man> wrote:

Einstein is dead

Not if he's reincarnated...
.
User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 25 Jun 2007 07:44:41 AM
"Rock Brentwood" <markwh04@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1182759758.376714.166060@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
: On Jun 23, 11:10 am, "gravman" <grav...@gravmangravman.man> wrote:
: > Einstein is dead
:
: Not if he's reincarnated...
You are dead from the neck up.
.
User: "Rock Brentwood"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 28 Jun 2007 04:07:00 AM
On Jun 25, 7:44 am, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:

: Not if he's reincarnated...

You are dead from the neck up.

Look, Androcles, or whatever the ***** name you want to call yourself.
I don't know who the hell you think you are coming on this forum and
fucking around with everyone like some kind of testosterone-poisoned
with a damned chip on his shoulder.
But get the damned chip off your God-damned shoulder, and stop fucking
with everyone on this board!
If you don't want to find YOURSELF dead from the neck up, then you
damned well better get your eyes fixed before you get your damned face
fixed, mother fucker.
STAY THE HELL OUT OF MY FACE, and pray to whatever God you worship
that someone here doesn't decide to go postal on your sorry ***** --
both here and in real life and finish the job God started when
systematically doing away with the progeny of your misbegotten brood
-- because you were too stupid to know not to ***** around with someone
with enough strength to leg-throw a fully grown Grizzly clean into the
air.
You're not even in the same league or at the same level of the
evolutionary scale or food chain as me in terms of intelligence, and
you're barely even suitable as my next meal.
.



User: "The_Man"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 23 Jun 2007 04:11:48 PM
On Jun 23, 12:10 pm, "gravman" <grav...@gravmangravman.man> wrote:

Einstein is dead

There is no spacetime, and gravity for sure is not a "curvature of space"!
The concept of spacetime is bad.

Studying GR is a waste of time; it is a false theory,
and is made unnecessarily too complex

for idiots like you?

by combining
space and time to a 4D (not to mention the even higher
dimensions of String Theory idiocy).

What happened to Occam's Razor?!

Are you sure you didn't neuter yourself with it?


It is due to some religious fanatics (lobbying, terrorizing, funding, marketing)
that prevents the scientific establishment to abonden Einstein,
and return to scientific principals.

"scientific principals"? Would that be the men who run grade and high
schols, that just happen to be scientific, AND be your pal?


I'm anncouncing the world that I've decided to develop my own
theory-of-everything which will be simple and intuitive, and will work
the same from the microscopic (quantum) to the macroscopic scale (universe).

Most credible scientists would delay the "announcement" until they had
successful results.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 24 Jun 2007 06:55:08 PM
On Jun 23, 12:10 pm, "gravman" <grav...@gravmangravman.man> wrote:

Einstein is dead

There is no spacetime, and gravity for sure is not a "curvature of space"!
The concept of spacetime is bad.

Studying GR is a waste of time; it is a false theory,
and is made unnecessarily too complex by combining
space and time to a 4D (not to mention the even higher
dimensions of String Theory idiocy).

What happened to Occam's Razor?!

It is due to some religious fanatics (lobbying, terrorizing, funding, marketing)
that prevents the scientific establishment to abonden Einstein,
and return to scientific principals.

I'm anncouncing the world that I've decided to develop my own
theory-of-everything which will be simple and intuitive, and will work
the same from the microscopic (quantum) to the macroscopic scale (universe).

xxein: Well, show us some sample and how it may be more comprehensive.
.

User: "Igor"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 23 Jun 2007 11:34:45 AM
On Jun 23, 12:10 pm, "gravman" <grav...@gravmangravman.man> wrote:

Einstein is dead

So is your brain.
.
User: "John Smith"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 24 Jun 2007 04:46:11 AM
On Jun 23, 6:34 pm, Igor <thoov...@excite.com> wrote:

On Jun 23, 12:10 pm, "gravman" <grav...@gravmangravman.man> wrote:

Einstein is dead


So is your brain.

you must be telephatic
.
User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 24 Jun 2007 06:58:43 AM
"John Smith" <e6k8sd5w@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:1182678371.519298.320010@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
: On Jun 23, 6:34 pm, Igor <thoov...@excite.com> wrote:
: > On Jun 23, 12:10 pm, "gravman" <grav...@gravmangravman.man> wrote:
: >
: > > Einstein is dead
: >
: > So is your brain.
:
: you must be telephatic
:
Telephatic?
phat at a distance, perhaps...
.
User: "John Smith"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 24 Jun 2007 07:05:22 AM
On Jun 24, 1:58 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:

"John Smith" <e6k8s...@registerednurses.com> wrote in message

news:1182678371.519298.320010@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
: On Jun 23, 6:34 pm, Igor <thoov...@excite.com> wrote:
: > On Jun 23, 12:10 pm, "gravman" <grav...@gravmangravman.man> wrote:
: >
: > > Einstein is dead
: >
: > So is your brain.
:
: you must be telephatic
:

Telephatic?
phat at a distance, perhaps...

if he telepathic than he needs to communicate at same frequency
.
User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 24 Jun 2007 07:46:53 AM
"John Smith" <e6k8sd5w@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
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: On Jun 24, 1:58 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:
: > "John Smith" <e6k8s...@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
: >
: > news:1182678371.519298.320010@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
: > : On Jun 23, 6:34 pm, Igor <thoov...@excite.com> wrote:
: > : > On Jun 23, 12:10 pm, "gravman" <grav...@gravmangravman.man> wrote:
: > : >
: > : > > Einstein is dead
: > : >
: > : > So is your brain.
: > :
: > : you must be telephatic
: > :
: >
: > Telephatic?
: > phat at a distance, perhaps...
:
: if he telepathic than he needs to communicate at same frequency
:
I saw no evidence of communication; but then, Baron Victor von
Frankenstein's personal assistant was never particularly useful at anything
except his fairy tales.
.
User: "marika"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 26 Jun 2007 09:54:29 PM
Androcles wrote in message
<1Jtfi.104510$hj5.74971@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>...

:

I saw no evidence of communication; but then, Baron Victor von
Frankenstein's personal assistant was never particularly useful at anything
except his fairy tales.

first of all you misspletted his name and second, did you know he made some
gorgeous uniforms for the San Diego Chargers


badlands420 wrote in message ...



The trouble with the shape of the shoulder bolt is that it clashes so
horribly with the shape of the helmet bolt (then you've got the bolt on

the

pants, which bears no resemblance to either of the other ones) . It's
natural that it wouldn't look as bad on a guy wearing just the jersey.



sounds as if you are building a fronkensteen monster

mk5000

"I could have hired an extremely high paid developer for a year or two
averagely paid ones. For a company that has only 3 full time developers
that's a fairly major loss.
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User: "John Smith"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 24 Jun 2007 09:16:23 AM
On Jun 24, 2:46 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:

"John Smith" <e6k8s...@registerednurses.com> wrote in message

news:1182686722.087580.53270@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
: On Jun 24, 1:58 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:
: > "John Smith" <e6k8s...@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
: >
: >news:1182678371.519298.320010@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
: > : On Jun 23, 6:34 pm, Igor <thoov...@excite.com> wrote:
: > : > On Jun 23, 12:10 pm, "gravman" <grav...@gravmangravman.man> wrote:
: > : >
: > : > > Einstein is dead
: > : >
: > : > So is your brain.
: > :
: > : you must be telephatic
: > :
: >
: > Telephatic?
: > phat at a distance, perhaps...
:
: if he telepathic than he needs to communicate at same frequency
:

I saw no evidence of communication; but then, Baron Victor von
Frankenstein's personal assistant was never particularly useful at anything
except his fairy tales.

whatever, but you mis the poing
.
User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 24 Jun 2007 11:01:29 AM
"John Smith" <e6k8sd5w@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
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: On Jun 24, 2:46 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:
: > "John Smith" <e6k8s...@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
: >
: > news:1182686722.087580.53270@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
: > : On Jun 24, 1:58 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:
: > : > "John Smith" <e6k8s...@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
: > : >
: > : >news:1182678371.519298.320010@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
: > : > : On Jun 23, 6:34 pm, Igor <thoov...@excite.com> wrote:
: > : > : > On Jun 23, 12:10 pm, "gravman" <grav...@gravmangravman.man>
wrote:
: > : > : >
: > : > : > > Einstein is dead
: > : > : >
: > : > : > So is your brain.
: > : > :
: > : > : you must be telephatic
: > : > :
: > : >
: > : > Telephatic?
: > : > phat at a distance, perhaps...
: > :
: > : if he telepathic than he needs to communicate at same frequency
: > :
: >
: > I saw no evidence of communication; but then, Baron Victor von
: > Frankenstein's personal assistant was never particularly useful at
anything
: > except his fairy tales.
:
: whatever, but you mis the poing
:
Ok, I mis the poing.
Explain what the poing is in English because I never did learn to speak
Gibberish.
.
User: "John Smith"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 24 Jun 2007 01:51:01 PM
On Jun 24, 6:01 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:

"John Smith" <e6k8s...@registerednurses.com> wrote in message

news:1182694583.768146.141640@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
: On Jun 24, 2:46 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:
: > "John Smith" <e6k8s...@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
: >
: >news:1182686722.087580.53270@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
: > : On Jun 24, 1:58 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:
: > : > "John Smith" <e6k8s...@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
: > : >
: > : >news:1182678371.519298.320010@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
: > : > : On Jun 23, 6:34 pm, Igor <thoov...@excite.com> wrote:
: > : > : > On Jun 23, 12:10 pm, "gravman" <grav...@gravmangravman.man>
wrote:
: > : > : >
: > : > : > > Einstein is dead
: > : > : >
: > : > : > So is your brain.
: > : > :
: > : > : you must be telephatic
: > : > :
: > : >
: > : > Telephatic?
: > : > phat at a distance, perhaps...
: > :
: > : if he telepathic than he needs to communicate at same frequency
: > :
: >
: > I saw no evidence of communication; but then, Baron Victor von
: > Frankenstein's personal assistant was never particularly useful at
anything
: > except his fairy tales.
:
: whatever, but you mis the poing
:

Ok, I mis the poing.
Explain what the poing is in English because I never did learn to speak
Gibberish.

okay, it was a joke, i can see now that it is a bad joke
sorry for the bad joke
.








User: "tens"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 23 Jun 2007 09:33:03 PM
On Jun 24, 12:10 am, "gravman" <grav...@gravmangravman.man> wrote:

Einstein is dead

There is no spacetime, and gravity for sure is not a "curvature of space"!
The concept of spacetime is bad.

Gravity is not a "curvature of space" but "curvature of
spacetime". Get the book "General Relativity from A to B"
for layman introduciton.


Studying GR is a waste of time; it is a false theory,
and is made unnecessarily too complex by combining
space and time to a 4D (not to mention the even higher
dimensions of String Theory idiocy).

The reason space and time is combined into 4D
is because they are inversely proportional.. that is...
as object moves fast, time slows down in inverse
proportional to movement in space so you can
have graph of x versus t. This is how how they
are put together in a graph but time is still different
because of some minus convension, etc.


What happened to Occam's Razor?!

It is due to some religious fanatics (lobbying, terrorizing, funding, marketing)
that prevents the scientific establishment to abonden Einstein,
and return to scientific principals.

No. It has to do with Relativity Elitism. Those who fully
understand relativity like Bill Hobba wants to get the
constant haughty feeling of seeing how poor souls don't
understand relativity and feeling superior inside. And
if you'd ask them questions. They would tell you to
study graduate level text book and mathematics
when they can describe it in more layman terms.
I'm a chef and I don't have full knowledge in
differential geometry but that is not to say logic
won't help get one to comprehend SR and GR.
tens


I'm anncouncing the world that I've decided to develop my own
theory-of-everything which will be simple and intuitive, and will work
the same from the microscopic (quantum) to the macroscopic scale (universe).

.
User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 24 Jun 2007 04:16:21 AM
"tens" <metric_tens@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1182652383.228067.48820@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
: On Jun 24, 12:10 am, "gravman" <grav...@gravmangravman.man> wrote:
: > Einstein is dead
: >
: > There is no spacetime, and gravity for sure is not a "curvature of
space"!
: > The concept of spacetime is bad.
:
: Gravity is not a "curvature of space" but "curvature of
: spacetime". Get the book "General Relativity from A to B"
: for layman introduciton.
:
: >
: > Studying GR is a waste of time; it is a false theory,
: > and is made unnecessarily too complex by combining
: > space and time to a 4D (not to mention the even higher
: > dimensions of String Theory idiocy).
:
: The reason space and time is combined into 4D
: is because they are inversely proportional.. that is...
: as object moves fast, time slows down in inverse
: proportional to movement in space so you can
: have graph of x versus t. This is how how they
: are put together in a graph but time is still different
: because of some minus convension, etc.
:
: >
: > What happened to Occam's Razor?!
: >
: > It is due to some religious fanatics (lobbying, terrorizing, funding,
marketing)
: > that prevents the scientific establishment to abonden Einstein,
: > and return to scientific principals.
:
: No. It has to do with Relativity Elitism. Those who fully
: understand relativity like Bill Hobba wants to get the
: constant haughty feeling of seeing how poor souls don't
: understand relativity and feeling superior inside. And
: if you'd ask them questions. They would tell you to
: study graduate level text book and mathematics
: when they can describe it in more layman terms.
: I'm a chef and I don't have full knowledge in
: differential geometry but that is not to say logic
: won't help get one to comprehend SR and GR.
:
: tens
I'm not a chef but I comprehend belladonna.
The only thing you need to comprehend relativity is a
reliable ***** meter.
.
User: "marika"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 26 Jun 2007 09:42:50 PM


I'm not a chef but I comprehend belladonna.
The only thing you need to comprehend relativity is a
reliable ***** meter.

i've taken belladonna and this proves you are not a chef but nothing else.
so we finished up our stint in Florence. Tupelo was great but this
spacetime is a close call. I am not sure which spacetime I like better
So far teh toughest sell was Birmingham spacetime and even then they were
not so bad
more on boston vs yanks
mk5000
"and nothing else matters
never cared for what they say
never cared for games they play
never cared for what they do"--metallica
.


User: "Dirk Van de moortel"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 24 Jun 2007 03:56:16 AM
"tens" <metric_tens@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1182652383.228067.48820@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
[snip]

I'm a chef and I don't have full knowledge in
differential geometry but that is not to say logic
won't help get one to comprehend SR and GR.

Yes, the really stupid ones like Wublee and Connover might have
taken the bait, but keep in mind that you are utterly transparent
to the smarter trolls and crackpots. Remember, using sockpuppets
is *their* invention.
Pretending to be a layman when you clearly are not, is dishonest
and therefore utterly counterproductive to whatever purpose you
have in mind.
Dirk Vdm
.
User: "tens"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 24 Jun 2007 07:17:46 AM
On Jun 24, 4:56 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
SperM.hotmail.com> wrote:

"tens" <metric_t...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1182652383.228067.48820@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

[snip]

I'm a chef and I don't have full knowledge in
differential geometry but that is not to say logic
won't help get one to comprehend SR and GR.


Yes, the really stupid ones like Wublee and Connover might have
taken the bait, but keep in mind that you are utterly transparent
to the smarter trolls and crackpots. Remember, using sockpuppets
is *their* invention.
Pretending to be a layman when you clearly are not, is dishonest
and therefore utterly counterproductive to whatever purpose you
have in mind.

Dirk Vdm

What? No. no. no. I'm not a physicist disguising as layman.
I'm really a layman. Remember I asked what happens if
time stops, can one float. I asked that question because
there seems to be no possibility of antigravity in GR.
So how do one do antigravity.. perhaps by controlling time?
Duh. Beats me. We are said to be in geodesic motion
and the earth is coming upwards to meet our feet. So
I wonder how antigravity can occur at all. Maybe there
is no antigravity after all but how do those saints float
in the air. Maybe they just lose their mass and got
airborne? A stupid thing to say but many witnesses
saw that some saints can float and they even put
weights in their feet. How can GR explain that??
tens
.
User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 24 Jun 2007 07:46:53 AM
"tens" <metric_tens@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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: On Jun 24, 4:56 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
: SperM.hotmail.com> wrote:
: > "tens" <metric_t...@yahoo.com> wrote in
messagenews:1182652383.228067.48820@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
: >
: > [snip]
: >
: > > I'm a chef and I don't have full knowledge in
: > > differential geometry but that is not to say logic
: > > won't help get one to comprehend SR and GR.
: >
: > Yes, the really stupid ones like Wublee and Connover might have
: > taken the bait, but keep in mind that you are utterly transparent
: > to the smarter trolls and crackpots. Remember, using sockpuppets
: > is *their* invention.
: > Pretending to be a layman when you clearly are not, is dishonest
: > and therefore utterly counterproductive to whatever purpose you
: > have in mind.
: >
: > Dirk Vdm
:
: What? No. no. no. I'm not a physicist disguising as layman.
: I'm really a layman. Remember I asked what happens if
: time stops, can one float. I asked that question because
: there seems to be no possibility of antigravity in GR.
: So how do one do antigravity.. perhaps by controlling time?
: Duh. Beats me. We are said to be in geodesic motion
: and the earth is coming upwards to meet our feet. So
: I wonder how antigravity can occur at all. Maybe there
: is no antigravity after all but how do those saints float
: in the air. Maybe they just lose their mass and got
: airborne? A stupid thing to say but many witnesses
: saw that some saints can float and they even put
: weights in their feet. How can GR explain that??
:
: tens
Dork is a layidiot pretending to understand mathematics.
His solution to the twin paradox is to use three frames, one
of which is an instantaneous reversal of another that he magics up
out of thin aether.
He has no purpose in mind because he doesn't have a mind, but he
does like to troll.
.

User: "tens"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 24 Jun 2007 07:27:20 AM
On Jun 24, 8:17 pm, tens <metric_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Jun 24, 4:56 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-





SperM.hotmail.com> wrote:

"tens" <metric_t...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1182652383.228067.48820@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...


[snip]


I'm a chef and I don't have full knowledge in
differential geometry but that is not to say logic
won't help get one to comprehend SR and GR.


Yes, the really stupid ones like Wublee and Connover might have
taken the bait, but keep in mind that you are utterly transparent
to the smarter trolls and crackpots. Remember, using sockpuppets
is *their* invention.
Pretending to be a layman when you clearly are not, is dishonest
and therefore utterly counterproductive to whatever purpose you
have in mind.


Dirk Vdm


What? No. no. no. I'm not a physicist disguising as layman.
I'm really a layman. Remember I asked what happens if
time stops, can one float. I asked that question because
there seems to be no possibility of antigravity in GR.
So how do one do antigravity.. perhaps by controlling time?
Duh. Beats me. We are said to be in geodesic motion
and the earth is coming upwards to meet our feet. So
I wonder how antigravity can occur at all. Maybe there
is no antigravity after all but how do those saints float
in the air. Maybe they just lose their mass and got
airborne? A stupid thing to say but many witnesses
saw that some saints can float and they even put
weights in their feet. How can GR explain that??

tens- Hide quoted text -

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About the floating saints. There are 200 of them
that can float. See:
http://www.paranormality.com/levitating_saints.shtml
or
http://www.bbc.co.uk/videonation/articles/u/uk_levitation.shtml
(videos)
Science dismiss them because science believes in
GR which doesn't allow antigravity. But what if.. that
is.. GR is wrong and there is really a way to pull
off antigravity like what those saints do?
tens
.



User: "Koobee Wublee"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 27 Jun 2007 01:29:07 AM
On Jun 23, 7:33 pm, tens <metric_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Gravity is not a "curvature of space" but "curvature of
spacetime". Get the book "General Relativity from A to B"
for layman introduciton.

Gravity according to GR is the gravitational time dilation only.
Regardless if space is curved or not, as long as there is
gravitational time dilation, there is gravity. If there is no
gravitational time dilation but curved space, gravitation still would
not occur.

The reason space and time is combined into 4D
is because they are inversely proportional.. that is...
as object moves fast, time slows down in inverse
proportional to movement in space so you can
have graph of x versus t.

I don't know why you would think space is inversely proportional to
time. Space and time should be independent of each other
mathematically and through common sense.

This is how how they
are put together in a graph but time is still different
because of some minus convension, etc.

Do you mean the light cone drawn by a few lines which most children
would have no problem achieving the same but seemingly very
challenging task among physicists?

[...]
And
if you'd ask them questions. They would tell you to
study graduate level text book and mathematics
when they can describe it in more layman terms.

Yes, it is a very effective way of covering up one's ignorance.

I'm a chef

A chef is only one letter away from a chief.

and I don't have full knowledge in
differential geometry but that is not to say logic
won't help get one to comprehend SR and GR.

SR and GR are actually exceedingly simple. Don't let yourself get
intimidated by these bullies.
.
User: "Tom Roberts"

Title: Re: Einstein is dead 27 Jun 2007 10:28:57 AM
Koobee Wublee wrote:

Gravity according to GR is the gravitational time dilation only.

This is plain and simply not true. you should LEARN something about GR
before attempting to describe it.

[... further nonsense omitted]

Tom Roberts
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