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EINSTEIN WAS WRONG ! |
Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
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12 Dec 2003 05:50:18 PM |
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"keith stein" <ks012a2355@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
Bzzt! Try again, twit.
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| User: "Bill Habr" |
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12 Dec 2003 08:10:20 PM |
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Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
A LARGE NECESSARY
AN EXTRA LARGE BETTER
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| User: "Gregory L. Hansen" |
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12 Dec 2003 07:35:31 PM |
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In article <ltsCb.46005$kh4.34711@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>,
keith stein <ks012a2355@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
Is not.
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"When the fool walks through the street, in his lack of understanding he
calls everything foolish." -- Ecclesiastes 10:3, New American Bible
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| User: "keith stein" |
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13 Dec 2003 12:16:13 AM |
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"> >Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
Is not.
"When the fool walks through the street, in his lack of understanding he
calls everything foolish." -- Ecclesiastes 10:3, New American Bible
' So Jesus answered them " My teaching is not mine " ' -- John 7.16
Maxwell was right eh!
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19 Dec 2003 10:32:35 AM |
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"keith stein" <ks012a2355@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:<SZACb.47538$kh4.10179@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>...
"> >Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
Is not.
"When the fool walks through the street, in his lack of understanding he
calls everything foolish." -- Ecclesiastes 10:3, New American Bible
' So Jesus answered them " My teaching is not mine " ' -- John 7.16
Maxwell was right eh!
I have the same feeling, namely Maxwell was right eh!
But, I don't think that Einstein was wrong eh!
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| User: "Keith Stein" |
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19 Dec 2003 01:17:36 PM |
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Maxwell was right eh!
I have the same feeling, namely Maxwell was right eh!
But, I don't think that Einstein was wrong eh!
Well you got a problem there Ramadanrama, because Maxwell's
theory is that the transmission of light REQUIRES a "medium" (of
"finite density"), and that light waves travel relative to this medium.
Now if Maxwell was right then Einstein was certainly wrong,
because he taught that a "medium" was NOT necessary, and
that light travels at a the same speed relative to ALL OBSERVERS!
which is daft eh!
keith stein
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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19 Dec 2003 03:32:00 PM |
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Keith Stein wrote:
that light travels at a the same speed relative to ALL OBSERVERS!
which is daft eh!
Daft, but totally corroberated by experiment. Aether is not supported by
experiment, so get used to it.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Keith Stein" |
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20 Dec 2003 03:32:21 PM |
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"Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@attbi.com> wrote in message
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Keith Stein wrote:
that light travels at a the same speed relative to ALL OBSERVERS!
which is daft eh!
Daft, but totally corroberated by experiment. Aether is not supported by
experiment, so get used to it.
I didn't say anything about 'Aether', and nor did Maxwell eh!
Not in his 'Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism', he didn't.
READ IT. and see for yourself, Mr. Kolker.
He does insist repeatedly " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
But Maxwell's medium is a real substance like air, water,
glass or hydrogen. A real MACROSCOPIC SUBSTANCE,
with " finite density " eh!
Bob Kolker
Aether is a straw man Bob,
Burn it eh!
But i repeat myself,--
keith stein
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=keith+stein&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&site=groups
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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20 Dec 2003 03:40:01 PM |
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Keith Stein wrote:
I didn't say anything about 'Aether', and nor did Maxwell eh!
Not in his 'Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism', he didn't.
READ IT. and see for yourself, Mr. Kolker.
He does insist repeatedly " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
The medium is the aether. A visco elastic medium which carries
transverse waves. Stiffer than steel and rarer than virtue.
There is no physical evidence for a medium whatsoever. And particles do
not need a medium to fly through space.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Keith Stein" |
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20 Dec 2003 04:00:27 PM |
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"Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@attbi.com> wrote in message
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Keith Stein wrote:
I didn't say anything about 'Aether', and nor did Maxwell eh!
Not in his 'Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism', he didn't.
READ IT. and see for yourself, Mr. Kolker.
He does insist repeatedly " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
The medium is the aether. A visco elastic medium which carries
transverse waves. Stiffer than steel and rarer than virtue.
There is no physical evidence for a medium whatsoever. And particles do
not need a medium to fly through space.
Bob Kolker
Aether is a straw man Bob,
Burn it eh!
But i repeat myself,--
keith stein
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=keith+stein&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&site=groups
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| User: "S. Enterprize Company" |
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12 Dec 2003 09:03:44 PM |
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In article <ltsCb.46005$kh4.34711@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>,
keith stein <ks012a2355@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
Is not.
Yes it is. What allows a photon to move through something. It has to have a
medium to travel through. Space isn't empty. It's made of Aether Fluid.
Smart's Alt. Physics News Group
http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=3320272813&cpv=1
S. Enterprize (Science Journal)
http://smart1234.s-enterprize.com/
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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12 Dec 2003 10:27:36 PM |
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"S. Enterprize Company" wrote:
Yes it is. What allows a photon to move through something. It has to have a
medium to travel through. Space isn't empty. It's made of Aether Fluid.
Smart's Alt. Physics News Group
http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=3320272813&cpv=1
S. Enterprize (Science Journal)
http://smart1234.s-enterprize.com/
Is this "Aether Fluid" incorporated into the Smart Model? And if so
what properties or parameters in your program?
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| User: "S. Enterprize Company" |
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16 Dec 2003 01:22:51 AM |
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"S. Enterprize Company" wrote:
Yes it is. What allows a photon to move through something. It has to
have a
medium to travel through. Space isn't empty. It's made of Aether Fluid.
Smart's Alt. Physics News Group
http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=3320272813&cpv=1
S. Enterprize (Science Journal)
http://smart1234.s-enterprize.com/
Is this "Aether Fluid" incorporated into the Smart Model? And if so
what properties or parameters in your program?
The Smart Model is made of multi-level sub-sub... particle fields. One of
them is the sub-sub-particle field which is the Aether Fluid. A photon is made
by Aether Fluid. What keeps the Aether Fluid together? sub-sub-sub-particle
fields that is another fluid that links the large universe with the small
universe and keeps everything moving perpetually universally.
What about us? We are alive. This is where the sub_4 particle fields come
in. They move independently as the universe moves in a unified universal field.
We can move from one point to another without disturbing the unified Universal
fields. We exist in the universal inanimate fields. We are in it but not of it.
Each sub....particle field is just a smaller replica of the same Helix
Spiral spinning field. What does Aether Fluid particles look like?
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()
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Looks like a photon but smaller.
What does a photon look like
This field is full of little dots that are sub-sub-particles which is the
Aether fluid.
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What about the universe
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((((()))))
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The same basic field OVER AND OVER AGAIN, interacting perfectly without
uncertainty.
Smart's Alt. Physics News Group
http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=3320272813&cpv=1
S. Enterprize (Science Journal)
http://smart1234.s-enterprize.com/
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| User: "Gregory L. Hansen" |
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13 Dec 2003 07:06:51 AM |
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In article <20031212220344.14188.00000675@mb-m14.aol.com>,
S. Enterprize Company <smart1234@aol.com> wrote:
In article <ltsCb.46005$kh4.34711@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>,
keith stein <ks012a2355@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
Is not.
Yes it is. What allows a photon to move through something. It has to have a
medium to travel through. Space isn't empty. It's made of Aether Fluid.
Quantum mechanics has made the motivation for the aether, "If there's a
wave, something must be waving", obsolete. Photons need a medium for
propagation the same way that a baseball needs a medium for propagation.
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"Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of
Congress... But I repeat myself." - Mark Twain
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| User: "keith stein" |
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14 Dec 2003 01:17:35 AM |
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"Gregory L. Hansen" <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
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In article <20031212220344.14188.00000675@mb-m14.aol.com>,
S. Enterprize Company <smart1234@aol.com> wrote:
In article <ltsCb.46005$kh4.34711@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>,
keith stein <ks012a2355@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
Is not.
Yes it is. What allows a photon to move through something. It has to
have a
medium to travel through. Space isn't empty. It's made of Aether Fluid.
Quantum mechanics has made the motivation for the aether, "If there's a
wave, something must be waving", obsolete. Photons need a medium for
propagation the same way that a baseball needs a medium for propagation.
Baseballs thrown under water do not speed up as they emerge
into the air, but light WAVES do eh! Maxwell's theory correctly
predicts the velocity of those WAVES, and .this wave velocity is
RELATIVE TO the medium eh!
(Also very difficult to demonstrate interference or diffraction
effects with baseballs eh! :-)
keith stein
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| User: "Gregory L. Hansen" |
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14 Dec 2003 07:36:58 AM |
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In article <nZWCb.54773$kh4.21335@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>,
keith stein <ks012a2355@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
"Gregory L. Hansen" <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:brf2tb$kas$1@hood.uits.indiana.edu...
In article <20031212220344.14188.00000675@mb-m14.aol.com>,
S. Enterprize Company <smart1234@aol.com> wrote:
In article <ltsCb.46005$kh4.34711@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>,
keith stein <ks012a2355@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
Is not.
Yes it is. What allows a photon to move through something. It has to
have a
medium to travel through. Space isn't empty. It's made of Aether Fluid.
Quantum mechanics has made the motivation for the aether, "If there's a
wave, something must be waving", obsolete. Photons need a medium for
propagation the same way that a baseball needs a medium for propagation.
Baseballs thrown under water do not speed up as they emerge
into the air, but light WAVES do eh! Maxwell's theory correctly
predicts the velocity of those WAVES, and .this wave velocity is
RELATIVE TO the medium eh!
(Also very difficult to demonstrate interference or diffraction
effects with baseballs eh! :-)
Diffraction has been demonstrated for objects at least as large as C60.
Neutrons going from air to silicon will speed up. They're like light,
except with mass. If light had mass, it would slow down, too, from
inelastic scattering with the water.
--
"A nice adaptation of conditions will make almost any hypothesis agree
with the phenomena. This will please the imagination but does not advance
our knowledge." -- J. Black, 1803.
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15 Dec 2003 03:25:19 PM |
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In article <UPoDb.547$Pc2.64@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>,
Keith Stein <ks012a2355@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
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Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
No he wasn't.
... But I repeat myself - like Mark Twain eh! :-)
You sure do. Like the penis enlargement spam that shows up in my inbox
every morning.
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"What are the possibilities of small but movable machines? They may or
may not be useful, but they surely would be fun to make."
-- Richard P. Feynman, 1959
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15 Dec 2003 06:08:30 PM |
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"Gregory L. Hansen" <glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:brl8rv$qbb$1@hood.uits.indiana.edu...
In article <UPoDb.547$Pc2.64@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>,
Keith Stein <ks012a2355@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
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Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
No he wasn't.
... But I repeat myself - like Mark Twain eh! :-)
You sure do. Like the penis enlargement spam that shows up in my inbox
every morning.
Maybe its a hint from someone in your life
putting you on the mailing list.....
--
"What are the possibilities of small but movable machines? They may or
may not be useful, but they surely would be fun to make."
-- Richard P. Feynman, 1959
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12 Dec 2003 05:59:53 PM |
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keith stein wrote:
Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
Into the early 20th century the need for Aether vanished.
Ref: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/wrong.html#aether
Albert Einstein, in his essay On the Aether (1924), made some
injudicious comments to the effect that relativity theory could be said
to ascribe physical properties to spacetime itself, and in that sense,
to involve a kind of "aether". He clearly did not mean the kind of
"aether" which had been envisioned by Maxwell and others in the
nineteenth century, but his remarks have been seized upon ever since,
by various cranks and other ill-informed persons, as evidence that
"gtr is an aether theory".
Luminiferous Ether
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Ether.html
http://www.google.com/search?q=aether+site%3Awww.aip.org+update
Special Relativity
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/SpecialRelativity.html
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html
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12 Dec 2003 03:59:09 PM |
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"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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keith stein wrote:
Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
Into the early 20th century the need for Aether vanished.
I didn't say anything about 'Aether', and nor did Maxwell eh!
Not in his 'Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism', he didn't.
READ IT. and see for yourself.
He does insist repeatedly " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
But Maxwell's medium is a real substance like air, water,
glass or hydrogen. A real MACROSCOPIC SUBSTANCE,
with " finite density " eh!
Ref: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/wrong.html#aether
<snip>
Aether is a straw man Sam,
Burn it eh!
--
keith stein
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=keith+stein&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&site=groups
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12 Dec 2003 07:42:06 PM |
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"keith stein" <ks012a2355@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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keith stein wrote:
Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
Into the early 20th century the need for Aether vanished.
I didn't say anything about 'Aether', and nor did Maxwell eh!
Not in his 'Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism', he didn't.
READ IT. and see for yourself.
He does insist repeatedly " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
But Maxwell's medium is a real substance like air, water,
glass or hydrogen. A real MACROSCOPIC SUBSTANCE,
with " finite density " eh!
No.. I disagree.. he never defined his mental construct but
it comes across to me as a 0 viscous fluid concept. but
since the Quantum state varies as particles are separated
the particle never moves "through" an aether.. The QS
reduces its tensor effect (elastic mode) as physical particles
separate and increases its tensor effect as particles move
closer to locally quantum bound particles. The causal
aspect is the Quantum State.. which is the same yet to be
defined quantum of unified energy that was the yet
to be defined quantum energy of the BB's Quantum Point..
Due to its intrinsic nature to all matter mathematical constructs
only model matter in relation to other matter in motion
and when pressed fails to apply leaving the illusion of
singularity.. The mathematical construct of the singularity
is describing the same causal aspect which exist on a
universal scale.
Ref: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/wrong.html#aether
<snip>
Aether is a straw man Sam,
Burn it eh!
--
keith stein
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=keith+stein&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&site=groups
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13 Dec 2003 12:36:27 AM |
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"Paul R. Mays" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
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"keith stein" <ks012a2355@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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keith stein wrote:
Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
Into the early 20th century the need for Aether vanished.
I didn't say anything about 'Aether', and nor did Maxwell eh!
Not in his 'Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism', he didn't.
READ IT. and see for yourself.
He does insist repeatedly " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
But Maxwell's medium is a real substance like air, water,
glass or hydrogen. A real MACROSCOPIC SUBSTANCE,
with " finite density " eh!
No.. I disagree.. he never defined his mental construct but
it comes across to me as a 0 viscous fluid concept. but
Maxwell's primary example of a medium was "air" and his
other example was "paraffin". Now for certain neither of
these has zero viscosity, and if i remember correctly the
paraffin used by Maxwell wasn't even a fluid.
<snip>
Burn it eh!
--
keith stein
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=keith+stein&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&site=groups
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12 Dec 2003 08:08:13 PM |
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keith stein wrote:
glass or hydrogen. A real MACROSCOPIC SUBSTANCE,
with " finite density " eh!
So why doesn't this myster medium slow the planets down so they spiral
into the sun?
Bob Kolker
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| User: "keith stein" |
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12 Dec 2003 11:50:41 PM |
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"Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@attbi.com> wrote in message
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keith stein wrote:
glass or hydrogen. A real MACROSCOPIC SUBSTANCE,
with " finite density " eh!
So why doesn't this myster medium slow the planets down so they spiral
into the sun?
Bob Kolker
Are you really suggesting that there is no HYDROGEN GAS
in the vicinity of the sun Mr Kolker ?
Even intergalactic space has "some" hydrogen gas in it Bob!.
As to why this medium does not
"slow the planets down so they spiral
into the sun?"
I would point out that the flow of the hydrogen gas in the
vicinity of the sun is outwards from the sun towards the
relative emptiness of space. The force on the planets caused
by the gas would therefore also point away from the sun, so
i would certainly not expect it to cause the planets to spiral
"into the sun" eh?
keith stein
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15 Dec 2003 10:10:32 PM |
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keith stein wrote:
Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
Into the early 20th century the need for Aether vanished.
Ref: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/wrong.html#aether
Albert Einstein, in his essay On the Aether (1924), made some
injudicious comments to the effect that relativity theory could be said
to ascribe physical properties to spacetime itself, and in that sense,
to involve a kind of "aether".
Aether is absolutely necessary. Nothing physical can be created without it.
Smart's Alt. Physics News Group
http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=3320272813&cpv=1
S. Enterprize (Science Journal)
http://smart1234.s-enterprize.com/
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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15 Dec 2003 10:19:49 PM |
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"S. Enterprize Company" wrote:
Aether is absolutely necessary. Nothing physical can be created without it.
Into the early 20th century the need for Aether vanished.
Ref: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/wrong.html#aether
Albert Einstein, in his essay On the Aether (1924), made some
injudicious comments to the effect that relativity theory could be said
to ascribe physical properties to spacetime itself, and in that sense,
to involve a kind of "aether". He clearly did not mean the kind of
"aether" which had been envisioned by Maxwell and others in the
nineteenth century, but his remarks have been seized upon ever since,
by various cranks and other ill-informed persons, as evidence that
"gtr is an aether theory".
Luminiferous Ether
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Ether.html
http://www.google.com/search?q=aether+site%3Awww.aip.org+update
Special Relativity
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/SpecialRelativity.html
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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12 Dec 2003 08:20:46 PM |
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keith stein wrote:
Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
Hey stooopid, your Shift Key is stuck again.
Phys. Rev. Lett. 88(1) 010401 (2002)
Phys. Rev. Lett. 90 060403 (2003)
Phys. Rev. Lett. 42(9) 549 (1979)
Phys. Bull. 21 255 (1970)
Europhysics Lett. 56(2) 170 (2001)
Gen. Rel. Grav. 34(9) 1371 (2002)
plus Hipparcos star position data, plus the GPS system,
http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0307140
GR structure, especially Part 4/p. 7
<http://rattler.cameron.edu/EMIS/journals/LRG/Articles/Volume4/2001-4will/index.html>
Experimental constraints on General Relativity.
<http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti2002/paper20.pdf>
Nature 425 374 (2003)
<http://rattler.cameron.edu/EMIS/journals/LRG/Articles/Volume6/2003-1ashby/index.html>
http://www.eftaylor.com/pub/projecta.pdf
Relativity in the GPS system
Fucking imbecile.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!
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| User: "keith stein" |
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| Title: Re: EINSTEIN WAS WRONG ! |
12 Dec 2003 11:20:02 PM |
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"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:3FDA777E.873AD64F@hate.spam.net...
keith stein wrote:
Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
Hey stooopid, your Shift Key is stuck again.
Nothing wrong with my Shift Key Uncle. That is a quotation,
from Maxwell's " Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism " eh!
Phys. Rev. Lett. 88(1) 010401 (2002)
Phys. Rev. Lett. 90 060403 (2003)
Phys. Rev. Lett. 42(9) 549 (1979)
Phys. Bull. 21 255 (1970)
Europhysics Lett. 56(2) 170 (2001)
Gen. Rel. Grav. 34(9) 1371 (2002)
plus Hipparcos star position data, plus the GPS system,
http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0307140
GR structure, especially Part 4/p. 7
<http://rattler.cameron.edu/EMIS/journals/LRG/Articles/Volume4/2001-4will/in
dex.html>
Experimental constraints on General Relativity.
<http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti2002/paper20.pdf>
Nature 425 374 (2003)
<http://rattler.cameron.edu/EMIS/journals/LRG/Articles/Volume6/2003-1ashby/i
ndex.html>
http://www.eftaylor.com/pub/projecta.pdf
Relativity in the GPS system
Fucking imbecile.
Maxwell was NOT an imbecile Uncle. Read his Treatise eh!
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!
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| User: "arctanka" |
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| Title: Re: EINSTEIN WAS WRONG ! |
15 Dec 2003 06:57:20 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:20:46 -0800, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
wrote:
Hey stooopid, your Shift Key is stuck again.
Phys. Rev. Lett. 88(1) 010401 (2002)
Phys. Rev. Lett. 90 060403 (2003)
Phys. Rev. Lett. 42(9) 549 (1979)
Phys. Bull. 21 255 (1970)
Europhysics Lett. 56(2) 170 (2001)
Gen. Rel. Grav. 34(9) 1371 (2002)
plus Hipparcos star position data, plus the GPS system,
http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0307140
GR structure, especially Part 4/p. 7
<http://rattler.cameron.edu/EMIS/journals/LRG/Articles/Volume4/2001-4will/index.html>
Experimental constraints on General Relativity.
<http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti2002/paper20.pdf>
Nature 425 374 (2003)
<http://rattler.cameron.edu/EMIS/journals/LRG/Articles/Volume6/2003-1ashby/index.html>
http://www.eftaylor.com/pub/projecta.pdf
Relativity in the GPS system
Fucking imbecile.
I agree with this post.
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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| Title: Re: EINSTEIN WAS WRONG ! |
12 Dec 2003 08:06:49 PM |
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keith stein wrote:
Maxwell was right " A MEDIUM NECESSARY"
Fine. Now where is the experimental evidence that such a medium exist?
And why do theories which do not postulate such a medium work so well?
Bob Kolker
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