Science > Physics > Einstein's Hypnotists Make Fun of the Zombie World
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Einstein's Hypnotists Make Fun of the Zombie World |
Problem 25 on p. 51 in
http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch10.pdf :
"Two spaceships float in space and are at rest relative to each other.
They are connected by a string....At a given instant, the spaceships
simultaneously start accelerating....with the same
acceleration.....Will the string eventually break?"
The solution is on p. 69 and the zombie world reads:
"To an observer in the original rest frame, the spaceships stay the
same distance, d, apart....After a long enough time,......the string
will be stretched by a large factor. Therefore, it will break."
Suddenly it occurs to the zombie world that the stretching string, like
any other stretching string, gradually gets thinner, and Einstein's
theory predicts that the same thinning will be observed by any
observer, even the observer in the original rest frame. Then the zombie
world, full of malicious joy, imagines the following scene. For the
observer in the original rest frame the length of the string remains
constant but the thickness gradually disappears. The observer is
terrified, gets a massive heart attack and dies.
Pentcho Valev
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24 Feb 2006 10:22:14 PM |
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Pentcho Valev wrote:
Problem 25 on p. 51 in
http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch10.pdf :
"Two spaceships float in space and are at rest relative to each other.
They are connected by a string....At a given instant, the spaceships
simultaneously start accelerating....with the same
acceleration.....Will the string eventually break?"
The solution is on p. 69 and the zombie world reads:
"To an observer in the original rest frame, the spaceships stay the
same distance, d, apart....After a long enough time,......the string
will be stretched by a large factor. Therefore, it will break."
Suddenly it occurs to the zombie world that the stretching string, like
any other stretching string, gradually gets thinner, and Einstein's
theory predicts that the same thinning will be observed by any
observer, even the observer in the original rest frame. Then the zombie
world, full of malicious joy, imagines the following scene. For the
observer in the original rest frame the length of the string remains
constant but the thickness gradually disappears. The observer is
terrified, gets a massive heart attack and dies.
Zombies are EXTREMELY hard to kill,
but I think Pentcho Valev
might be able to kill a few.
As sentient beings know
Zombies can't think,
and all they do is follow geodesic paths.
It looks like Pentcho Valev is
who can think and affect his environment,
is forging a geodesic path
for Zombies that leads them into a black hole.
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Tom Potter
http://no-turtles.com
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://spaces.msn.com/tdp1001
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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25 Feb 2006 01:00:04 AM |
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In sci.physics.relativity,
<>
wrote
on 24 Feb 2006 20:22:14 -0800
<1140841334.905882.161100@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>:
Pentcho Valev wrote:
Problem 25 on p. 51 in
http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch10.pdf :
"Two spaceships float in space and are at rest relative to each other.
They are connected by a string....At a given instant, the spaceships
simultaneously start accelerating....with the same
acceleration.....Will the string eventually break?"
The solution is on p. 69 and the zombie world reads:
"To an observer in the original rest frame, the spaceships stay the
same distance, d, apart....After a long enough time,......the string
will be stretched by a large factor. Therefore, it will break."
The logic is suspect. First, "simultaneity" cannot be proven;
it depends on the observer. Second, the tension in the string is
a factor in their acceleration; if one replaces the string with
a *spring* one will see that the spacecraft will accelerate towards
each other, absent expenditure of fuel.
Suddenly it occurs to the zombie world that the stretching string, like
any other stretching string, gradually gets thinner, and Einstein's
theory predicts that the same thinning will be observed by any
observer, even the observer in the original rest frame. Then the zombie
world, full of malicious joy, imagines the following scene. For the
observer in the original rest frame the length of the string remains
constant but the thickness gradually disappears. The observer is
terrified, gets a massive heart attack and dies.
Zombies are EXTREMELY hard to kill,
but I think Pentcho Valev
might be able to kill a few.
As sentient beings know
Zombies can't think,
and all they do is follow geodesic paths.
Hooloovoos notwithstanding, that's all light can do.
It looks like Pentcho Valev is
who can think and affect his environment,
is forging a geodesic path
for Zombies that leads them into a black hole.
If one kills SR one needs to replace it. Any suggestions between
the two of you?
There are some interesting candidates already.
[1] c'=c+v [Greenfield]. Classic theory.
[2] BaTh, which appears to be a modified c'=c+v with gaseous
attenuation, promoted by H. Wilson.
[3] An anti-theory from Hexenmeister which looks like [1] but is not.
[4] A probabilistic particle jump theory from Louis Savain which
postulates that a cubic lattice holds all particles, and that
the particles therein jump from point to point at lightspeed.
[5] Kenseto's IRT, which is an extension of SR while
simultaneously (?) postulating absolute time.
[6] The Law of Lever, by dedanoe.
One also has to at least try to account for the following.
[1] (Compton scattering.) A photon hurtles towards an
electron, and dislodges it towards a series of detectors.
The theory should correctly predict the results -- in
particular a probability curve for the angle of deflection
(the general idea would be much like Rutherford's famous
experiments) and the energies.
[2] (LHC) A proton is -- somehow -- given 7 TeV of energy,
and constrained to a 27 km ring via magnetic fields.
How fast will it go around? How much energy will it lose
while going around? If it hits an antiproton going in
the opposite direction, what results?
[3] A spaceborne pi meson hits something in the upper
atmosphere (25km-100km) up, shattering it. One of the
products is known to be a muon, which ends up going through
a sea-level detector. What is the energy of that muon,
and how long will it to take to decay?
[4] (Twin Paradox) An earthbound muon is constrained to
a storage ring, moving fast. Another muon is constrained
to a storage ring, moving slowly. What happens?
[5] (Michelson-Morley/Miller) A laser hits a half-silvered
mirror; each resultant beam hits another mirror. The
resultant beams ultimately combine in an interferometer.
The entire apparatus, laser, mirrors, and all, is placed
on a smoothly, very slowly rotating turntable. Assuming
measurements are conducted with the turntable motionless,
how many fringes will shift in the interferometer, as a
function of laser wavelength and path length?
[6] (Pound-Rebka) A beam of light falls down a tower. Estimate the
wavelength at the bottom of the tower, as a function
of tower height, gravitational field, lightspeed, and
original wavelength.
[7] (Hafele-Keating) Two pairs of clocks are synchronized.
One pair is then split by having one fly eastbound around
the world; the other pair is split by having one fly westbound.
How much will the clocks vary upon their return, assuing
flight schedules are known using standard commercial aviation/shipment?
[8] (Cassini mission time query) What time is it, and how
does it vary as the spacecraft moves in its orbit, and the
Earth moves in *its* orbit?
[9] Explain the observations surrounding a supernova; these
include a neutrino burst and glowing brightly for some
weeks, then fading from sight and eventual observation
of a nebula, some of them rather pretty.
[10] (Pioneer anomaly). The Pioneer spacecraft is showing
a slight anomaly in its flightpath. Explain that anomaly.
[11] Explain the AQL1493 lightcurve. (SR cannot do this, at
least directly; I suspect the cause lies elsewhere. Note that
a theoretical binary will show a U-shaped light/time curve given
the right parameters of orbit and distance from Earth.)
[12] Explain various dual neutron star orbiting binary observations,
some of them extremely interesting.
[13] Does Cygnus X-1 have a black hole?
[.sigsnip]
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It's still legal to go .sigless.
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| User: "Pentcho Valev" |
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25 Feb 2006 01:24:07 AM |
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The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
In sci.physics.relativity,
<>
wrote
on 24 Feb 2006 20:22:14 -0800
<1140841334.905882.161100@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>:
Pentcho Valev wrote:
Problem 25 on p. 51 in
http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch10.pdf :
"Two spaceships float in space and are at rest relative to each other.
They are connected by a string....At a given instant, the spaceships
simultaneously start accelerating....with the same
acceleration.....Will the string eventually break?"
The solution is on p. 69 and the zombie world reads:
"To an observer in the original rest frame, the spaceships stay the
same distance, d, apart....After a long enough time,......the string
will be stretched by a large factor. Therefore, it will break."
The logic is suspect. First, "simultaneity" cannot be proven;
it depends on the observer. Second, the tension in the string is
a factor in their acceleration; if one replaces the string with
a *spring* one will see that the spacecraft will accelerate towards
each other, absent expenditure of fuel.
Suddenly it occurs to the zombie world that the stretching string, like
any other stretching string, gradually gets thinner, and Einstein's
theory predicts that the same thinning will be observed by any
observer, even the observer in the original rest frame. Then the zombie
world, full of malicious joy, imagines the following scene. For the
observer in the original rest frame the length of the string remains
constant but the thickness gradually disappears. The observer is
terrified, gets a massive heart attack and dies.
Zombies are EXTREMELY hard to kill,
but I think Pentcho Valev
might be able to kill a few.
As sentient beings know
Zombies can't think,
and all they do is follow geodesic paths.
Hooloovoos notwithstanding, that's all light can do.
It looks like Pentcho Valev is
who can think and affect his environment,
is forging a geodesic path
for Zombies that leads them into a black hole.
If one kills SR one needs to replace it.
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light - the speed of light does not depend on the speed of
source or observer. Since it is false, it should be replaced with the
true principle of variability of speed of light - the speed of light
does depend on the speed of source or observer. Then, of course, the
corollaries of the false principle will have to be replaced with the
corollaries of the true principle. And that is all you should do.
Pentcho Valev
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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25 Feb 2006 11:00:08 AM |
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In sci.physics.relativity, Pentcho Valev
<pvalev@yahoo.com>
wrote
on 24 Feb 2006 23:24:07 -0800
<1140852247.612067.171970@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
In sci.physics.relativity,
<>
wrote
on 24 Feb 2006 20:22:14 -0800
<1140841334.905882.161100@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>:
Pentcho Valev wrote:
Problem 25 on p. 51 in
http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch10.pdf :
"Two spaceships float in space and are at rest relative to each other.
They are connected by a string....At a given instant, the spaceships
simultaneously start accelerating....with the same
acceleration.....Will the string eventually break?"
The solution is on p. 69 and the zombie world reads:
"To an observer in the original rest frame, the spaceships stay the
same distance, d, apart....After a long enough time,......the string
will be stretched by a large factor. Therefore, it will break."
The logic is suspect. First, "simultaneity" cannot be proven;
it depends on the observer. Second, the tension in the string is
a factor in their acceleration; if one replaces the string with
a *spring* one will see that the spacecraft will accelerate towards
each other, absent expenditure of fuel.
Suddenly it occurs to the zombie world that the stretching string, like
any other stretching string, gradually gets thinner, and Einstein's
theory predicts that the same thinning will be observed by any
observer, even the observer in the original rest frame. Then the zombie
world, full of malicious joy, imagines the following scene. For the
observer in the original rest frame the length of the string remains
constant but the thickness gradually disappears. The observer is
terrified, gets a massive heart attack and dies.
Zombies are EXTREMELY hard to kill,
but I think Pentcho Valev
might be able to kill a few.
As sentient beings know
Zombies can't think,
and all they do is follow geodesic paths.
Hooloovoos notwithstanding, that's all light can do.
It looks like Pentcho Valev is
who can think and affect his environment,
is forging a geodesic path
for Zombies that leads them into a black hole.
If one kills SR one needs to replace it.
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light - the speed of light does not depend on the speed of
source or observer.
I *did* say you had to replace it. This is one of the principles
of SR; it may need to be replaced as well.
Since it is false, it should be replaced with the
true principle of variability of speed of light - the speed of light
does depend on the speed of source or observer. Then, of course, the
corollaries of the false principle will have to be replaced with the
corollaries of the true principle. And that is all you should do.
This is fine. Did you want c'=c+v or did you want some other formula?
I should point out that an attempted measurement of k in
the formula c'=c+kv suggests that k < 10^-9 or thereabouts;
unfortunately, I'm not at all sure how to find this
particular experiment in the literature.
But never mind that; mathematically express the "true principle" as
you call it and we'll see what we can do.
Pentcho Valev
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25 Feb 2006 01:52:20 AM |
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Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
--
Jan Bielawski
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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25 Feb 2006 09:19:29 AM |
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"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Because, If you have to use self limiting math (transforms)
to prove such, you are in fact proving it was not actually constant.
You had to use the self limiting math itself to make it "supposedly"
constant.
Place any speed in place of the c in a tranform and the new
supposed constant speed will be that speed now.
Try it, use a speed of 100,000 meters per second as c
and just so you don't use speed of light by accident
replace c with k everyhwere is shows up and make
k = 100,000 meters per second.
If you do such. The new constant is the speed of k
and that will now be 100,000 meters per second
and all observers will measure k as the new constant
speed.
Self limiting math is more of a mathematical trick then
a proof that something is constant to all observers.
:)
--
James M Driscoll Jr
Spaceman
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| User: "Lloyd Parker" |
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25 Feb 2006 07:01:07 AM |
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In article <3PadndC8UYwN6J3ZRVn-ig@comcast.com>,
"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140853940.359031.193340@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Because, If you have to use self limiting math (transforms)
to prove such, you are in fact proving it was not actually constant.
You had to use the self limiting math itself to make it "supposedly"
constant.
Again, you throw out gibberish as supposed proof.
Place any speed in place of the c in a tranform and the new
supposed constant speed will be that speed now.
So? Replace the charge on an electron with a different value and the
equations for that work out differently too.
Try it, use a speed of 100,000 meters per second as c
and just so you don't use speed of light by accident
replace c with k everyhwere is shows up and make
k = 100,000 meters per second.
If you do such. The new constant is the speed of k
and that will now be 100,000 meters per second
and all observers will measure k as the new constant
speed.
Self limiting math is more of a mathematical trick then
a proof that something is constant to all observers.
:)
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| User: "Spaceman" |
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25 Feb 2006 01:14:05 PM |
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"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:dtq61b$sdb$4@leto.cc.emory.edu...
In article <3PadndC8UYwN6J3ZRVn-ig@comcast.com>,
"Spaceman" <Realspace@comcast.not> wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140853940.359031.193340@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Because, If you have to use self limiting math (transforms)
to prove such, you are in fact proving it was not actually constant.
You had to use the self limiting math itself to make it "supposedly"
constant.
Again, you throw out gibberish as supposed proof.
The "gibberish" I just threw out is only "gibberish"
to the brainwashed.
It is a simple fact to a brain that can actually think
Place any speed in place of the c in a tranform and the new
supposed constant speed will be that speed now.
So? Replace the charge on an electron with a different value and the
equations for that work out differently too.
You truly do not grasp what I said at all huh?
The transform is helping in creating a constant that is not actually
a constant.
Try it, use a speed of 100,000 meters per second as c
and just so you don't use speed of light by accident
replace c with k everyhwere is shows up and make
k = 100,000 meters per second.
If you do such. The new constant is the speed of k
and that will now be 100,000 meters per second
and all observers will measure k as the new constant
speed.
Self limiting math is more of a mathematical trick then
a proof that something is constant to all observers.
:)
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26 Feb 2006 01:09:53 AM |
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Spaceman wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140853940.359031.193340@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Because, If you have to use self limiting math (transforms)
to prove such, you are in fact proving it was not actually constant.
You had to use the self limiting math itself to make it "supposedly"
constant.
Place any speed in place of the c in a tranform and the new
supposed constant speed will be that speed now.
Try it, use a speed of 100,000 meters per second as c
and just so you don't use speed of light by accident
replace c with k everyhwere is shows up and make
k = 100,000 meters per second.
If you do such. The new constant is the speed of k
and that will now be 100,000 meters per second
and all observers will measure k as the new constant
speed.
Self limiting math is more of a mathematical trick then
a proof that something is constant to all observers.
You've fallen into the standard trap: the illusion that the constancy
of the speed of light in SR is just the result of clock setting. You
are not the first one.
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Jan Bielawski
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25 Feb 2006 06:50:21 AM |
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"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140853940.359031.193340@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Empirical data and the PoR.
"But the ray moves relatively to the initial point of k,
when measured in the stationary system, with the velocity c-v..." --
Einstein.
Androcles.
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| User: "Dirk Van de moortel" |
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25 Feb 2006 07:10:37 AM |
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"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote in message news:hoYLf.68956$YJ4.9470@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140853940.359031.193340@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Empirical data and the PoR.
"But the ray moves relatively to the initial point of k,
when measured in the stationary system, with the velocity c-v..." --
Einstein.
As measured in K, relatively to the origin of K: c
As measured in k, relatively to the origin of k: c
As measured in K, relatively to the origin of k: c-v
As measured in k, relatively to the origin of K: c+v
Which part do you pretend not to understand?
Dirk Vdm
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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25 Feb 2006 11:00:09 AM |
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In sci.physics.relativity, Dirk Van de moortel
<dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com>
wrote
on Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:10:37 GMT
<hHYLf.278854$an.7985181@phobos.telenet-ops.be>:
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote in message news:hoYLf.68956$YJ4.9470@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Empirical data and the PoR.
"But the ray moves relatively to the initial point of k,
when measured in the stationary system, with the velocity c-v..." --
Einstein.
As measured in K, relatively to the origin of K: c
As measured in k, relatively to the origin of k: c
As measured in K, relatively to the origin of k: c-v
As measured in k, relatively to the origin of K: c+v
Which part do you pretend not to understand?
Dirk Vdm
That is not empirical data; that is part of Einstein's theory
attempting to explain, among other things, the MMX failure to
detect absolute aether motion.
Not that it matters; Androcles is on record as stating that SR
predicts c = 0... :-)
--
#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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| User: "Dirk Van de moortel" |
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25 Feb 2006 11:17:17 AM |
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"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote in message news:crb6d3-ooe.ln1@sirius.tg00suus7038.net...
In sci.physics.relativity, Dirk Van de moortel
<dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com>
wrote
on Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:10:37 GMT
<hHYLf.278854$an.7985181@phobos.telenet-ops.be>:
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote in message news:hoYLf.68956$YJ4.9470@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140853940.359031.193340@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Empirical data and the PoR.
"But the ray moves relatively to the initial point of k,
when measured in the stationary system, with the velocity c-v..." --
Einstein.
As measured in K, relatively to the origin of K: c
As measured in k, relatively to the origin of k: c
As measured in K, relatively to the origin of k: c-v
As measured in k, relatively to the origin of K: c+v
Which part do you pretend not to understand?
Dirk Vdm
That is not empirical data; that is part of Einstein's theory
attempting to explain, among other things, the MMX failure to
detect absolute aether motion.
Yes, and I wonder how he explains what he allegedly
fails to understand about which part of it.
Dirk Vdm
Not that it matters; Androcles is on record as stating that SR
predicts c = 0... :-)
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#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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| User: "JanPB" |
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25 Feb 2006 05:10:26 PM |
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Hexenmeister wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140853940.359031.193340@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Empirical data and the PoR.
"But the ray moves relatively to the initial point of k,
when measured in the stationary system, with the velocity c-v..." --
Einstein.
That's the difference between velocity coordinates of *two* objects
seen in a *single* frame of reference. Velocity is a vector, you know.
Vectors in general can be added and subtracted, you see.
What confuses you is the relationship between velocity coordinates of a
*single object* seen from *two different* frames of reference (the
"Einstein velocity addition" thing).
Two object, one frame.
One object, two frames.
Different things.
--
Jan Bielawski
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25 Feb 2006 11:30:15 PM |
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"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Hexenmeister wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Empirical data and the PoR.
"But the ray moves relatively to the initial point of k,
when measured in the stationary system, with the velocity c-v..." --
Einstein.
That's the difference between velocity coordinates of *two* objects
seen in a *single* frame of reference. Velocity is a vector, you know.
Vectors in general can be added and subtracted, you see.
I do see.
"In agreement with experience we further assume the quantity
2AB/(t'A-tA) = c,
to be a universal constant--the velocity of light in empty space." --
Einstein.
In agreement with experience and without any assumption,
BA = -AB,
2AB = AC,
[AB +BA]/(t'A-tA) = 0
Hence c = 0 in Einstein's math.
Vectors like -c and +c can be added and the sum is zero, you see.
Glad we agree at last.
What confuses you
I'm not confused, I can see right through Einstein's crap.
I agree with you, vectors in general can be added and subtracted, you see.
is the relationship between velocity coordinates of a
*single object* seen from *two different* frames of reference (the
"Einstein velocity addition" thing).
Two object, one frame.
What two object are you babbling about?
Androcles.
One object, two frames.
Different things.
--
Jan Bielawski
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Hexenmeister wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
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What confuses you
I'm not confused, I can see right through Einstein's crap.
Nonsense. You cannot do simplest physics problems. How you can even
THINK seriously (and post!!) about criticising Einstein is a mystery
I'll leave psychiatrists on this NG to resolve.
--
Jan Bielawski
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26 Feb 2006 07:32:21 AM |
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"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Hexenmeister wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
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What confuses you
I'm not confused, I can see right through Einstein's crap.
Nonsense.
I know you are.
You are still an arrogant, illiterate, innumerate, illogical,
***** without a scrap of logic in you, you whining little toad.
You don't have an inkling about mathematics or physics
and live in the vain hope some moron will think you are clever,
Mr SmartArse who pretends he understands relativity and
doesn't have a clue how to synchronize his watch to Cassini
time.
Modern physics:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Synchronize/Synchronize.htm
Hey dumbfuck! Do you know how to move sideways or up?
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/how_to3.jpg
High school algebra:
x² + y² + z² = c²t² Einstein
xi² + eta² + zeta² = c²tau² Einstein
tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein
tau = (t-uy/c²)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles
tau = (t-wz/c²)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein
eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles
zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles
Right or wrong, dumbfuck?
If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are,
pathetic *****.
For v = 0.866c, u = 0.866c, w = 0.866c the resultant velocity is
sqrt( 3/4 + 3/4 +3/4) = 1.5c
Right or wrong, shitforbrains?
Einstein said
eta = y,
zeta = z
because he did not know how to move sideways or up,
anencephalous cretin.
[quote]
we establish by definition that the "time" required by a crab to travel
from A to B equals the "time" it requires to travel from B to A.
[end quote]
Ref: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
Einstein can prove nothing can go faster than a crab.
Oops!... Did I say 'a crab'? Sorry...'light'.
"In agreement with experience we further assume the quantity
2AB/(t'A-tA) = c,
to be a universal constant--the velocity of light in empty space." --
Einstein.
In agreement with experience and without any assumption,
BA = -AB,
2AB = AC,
[AB +BA]/(t'A-tA) = 0
Hence c = 0 in Einstein's math.
Observation:
http://www.britastro.org/vss/gifc/00918-ck.gif
Explanation:
http://www.ebicom.net/~rsf1/sekerin.htm (fig 3)
(Or stars explode twice in three months, which is stupid).
In agreement with experience and without any assumption,
you remain an arrogant, illiterate, innumerate, illogical,
incompetent ***** without a scrap of logic in you,
you whining little toad.
You don't have an inkling about mathematics or physics
and live in the vain hope some moron will think you are clever,
Mr SmartArse who pretends he understands physics and
doesn't have a clue how to synchronize his watch to Cassini
time.
Modern physics:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Synchronize/Synchronize.htm
*****, useless tord!
tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)
tau = (t-uy/c²)/sqrt(1-u²/c²)
tau = (t-wz/c²)/sqrt(1-w²/c²)
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)
eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²)
zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²)
If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are.
Carry three watches or do not move sideways or ride an elevator.
Personally I prefer three witches:
Double double, toil and trouble,
Fire burn and Einstein bubble. --- Pop!
Hexenmeister.
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25 Feb 2006 06:59:43 AM |
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In article <hoYLf.68956$YJ4.9470@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140853940.359031.193340@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Empirical data
ALL data shows the speed of light in a vacuum is constant.
and the PoR.
Another falsehood.
"But the ray moves relatively to the initial point of k,
when measured in the stationary system, with the velocity c-v..." --
Einstein.
Androcles.
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25 Feb 2006 05:09:54 PM |
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"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:dtq5un$sdb$3@leto.cc.emory.edu...
In article <hoYLf.68956$YJ4.9470@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140853940.359031.193340@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Empirical data
ALL data shows the speed of light in a vacuum is constant.
Don't be silly.
High school algebra:
x² + y² + z² = c²t² Einstein
xi² + eta² + zeta² = c²tau² Einstein
tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein
tau = (t-uy/c²)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles
tau = (t-wz/c²)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein
eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles
zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles
Right or wrong, dumbfuck?
If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are,
pathetic *****.
For v = 0.866c, u = 0.866c, w = 0.866c the resultant velocity is
sqrt( 3/4 + 3/4 +3/4) = 1.5c
Right or wrong, shitforbrains?
Einstein said
eta = y,
zeta = z
because he did not know how to move sideways or up,
anencephalous cretin.
[quote]
we establish by definition that the "time" required by a crab to travel
from A to B equals the "time" it requires to travel from B to A.
[end quote]
Ref: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
Einstein can prove nothing can go faster than a crab.
Oops!... Did I say 'a crab'? Sorry...'light'.
"In agreement with experience we further assume the quantity
2AB/(t'A-tA) = c,
to be a universal constant--the velocity of light in empty space." --
Einstein.
In agreement with experience and without any assumption,
BA = -AB,
2AB = AC,
[AB +BA]/(t'A-tA) = 0
Hence c = 0 in Einstein's math.
Observation:
http://www.britastro.org/vss/gifc/00918-ck.gif
Explanation:
http://www.ebicom.net/~rsf1/sekerin.htm (fig 3)
(Or stars explode twice in three months, which is stupid).
In agreement with experience and without any assumption,
you remain an arrogant, illiterate, innumerate, illogical,
incompetent ***** without a scrap of logic in you, you whining little toad.
You don't have an inkling about mathematics or physics
and live in the vain hope some moron will think you are clever,
Mr SmartArse who pretends he understands physics and
doesn't have a clue how to synchronize his watch to Cassini
time.
Modern physics:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Synchronize/Synchronize.htm
*****, useless tord!
tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)
tau = (t-uy/c²)/sqrt(1-u²/c²)
tau = (t-wz/c²)/sqrt(1-w²/c²)
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)
eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²)
zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²)
If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are.
Carry three watches or do not move sideways or ride an elevator.
Personally I prefer three witches:
Double double, toil and trouble,
Fire burn and Einstein bubble. --- Pop!
Hexenmeister.
and the PoR.
Another falsehood.
A ***** like you wouldn't know what the PoR is.
"But the ray moves relatively to the initial point of k,
when measured in the stationary system, with the velocity c-v..." --
Einstein.
Androcles.
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25 Feb 2006 05:17:59 PM |
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Hexenmeister wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
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In article <hoYLf.68956$YJ4.9470@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140853940.359031.193340@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Empirical data
ALL data shows the speed of light in a vacuum is constant.
Don't be silly.
High school algebra:
x=B2 + y=B2 + z=B2 =3D c=B2t=B2 Einstein
xi=B2 + eta=B2 + zeta=B2 =3D c=B2tau=B2 Einstein
tau =3D (t-vx/c=B2)/sqrt(1-v=B2/c=B2) Einstein
tau =3D (t-uy/c=B2)/sqrt(1-u=B2/c=B2) Androcles
tau =3D (t-wz/c=B2)/sqrt(1-w=B2/c=B2) Androcles
Wrong.
xi =3D (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v=B2/c=B2) Einstein
eta =3D (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u=B2/c=B2) Androcles
zeta=3D (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w=B2/c=B2) Androcles
Right or wrong, dumbfuck?
Wrong.
If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are,
You keep repeating this mantra - it won't make it true. Try 2+2=3D5 for a
change.
--
Jan Bielawski
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25 Feb 2006 11:30:14 PM |
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"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140909479.621618.53760@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Hexenmeister wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:dtq5un$sdb$3@leto.cc.emory.edu...
In article <hoYLf.68956$YJ4.9470@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140853940.359031.193340@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Empirical data
ALL data shows the speed of light in a vacuum is constant.
Don't be silly.
High school algebra:
x² + y² + z² = c²t² Einstein
xi² + eta² + zeta² = c²tau² Einstein
tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein
tau = (t-uy/c²)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles
tau = (t-wz/c²)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles
Wrong.
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein
eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles
zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles
Right or wrong, dumbfuck?
Wrong.
Ok, so Einstein was wrong. <shrug>
If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are,
You keep repeating this mantra - it won't make it true. Try 2+2=5 for a
change.
You arseholes have been repeating the twin paradox mantra
for years and that won't make it go away either.
At least my mantra is comparitively new. Try 2-3 = 4 for a change.
Androcles.
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26 Feb 2006 12:39:03 AM |
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Hexenmeister wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140909479.621618.53760@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Hexenmeister wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:dtq5un$sdb$3@leto.cc.emory.edu...
In article <hoYLf.68956$YJ4.9470@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140853940.359031.193340@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of t=
he
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Empirical data
ALL data shows the speed of light in a vacuum is constant.
Don't be silly.
High school algebra:
x=B2 + y=B2 + z=B2 =3D c=B2t=B2 Einstein
xi=B2 + eta=B2 + zeta=B2 =3D c=B2tau=B2 Einstein
tau =3D (t-vx/c=B2)/sqrt(1-v=B2/c=B2) Einstein
tau =3D (t-uy/c=B2)/sqrt(1-u=B2/c=B2) Androcles
tau =3D (t-wz/c=B2)/sqrt(1-w=B2/c=B2) Androcles
Wrong.
xi =3D (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v=B2/c=B2) Einstein
eta =3D (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u=B2/c=B2) Androcles
zeta=3D (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w=B2/c=B2) Androcles
Right or wrong, dumbfuck?
Wrong.
Ok, so Einstein was wrong. <shrug>
Not Einstein - you. Einstein never said that:
xi =3D (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v=B2/c=B2)
eta =3D (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u=B2/c=B2)
zeta=3D (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w=B2/c=B2)
This set of three equations is your fabrication.
If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are,
You keep repeating this mantra - it won't make it true. Try 2+2=3D5 for=
a
change.
You arseholes have been repeating the twin paradox mantra
for years and that won't make it go away either.
It's not true that "if one is right they all are, if one is wrong they
all are". This statement is nonsense.
--
Jan Bielawski
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26 Feb 2006 07:31:14 AM |
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"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Hexenmeister wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140909479.621618.53760@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Hexenmeister wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:dtq5un$sdb$3@leto.cc.emory.edu...
In article <hoYLf.68956$YJ4.9470@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140853940.359031.193340@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of
the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Empirical data
ALL data shows the speed of light in a vacuum is constant.
Don't be silly.
High school algebra:
x² + y² + z² = c²t² Einstein
xi² + eta² + zeta² = c²tau² Einstein
tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein
tau = (t-uy/c²)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles
tau = (t-wz/c²)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles
Wrong.
Prove it.
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein
eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles
zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles
Right or wrong, dumbfuck?
Wrong.
Ok, so Einstein was wrong. <shrug>
Not Einstein - you. Einstein never said that:
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)
eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²)
zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²)
Bilewacky:
This set of three equations is your fabrication.
Androcles:
No no.
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)
is definitely Einstein's fabrication. I read him say it myself.
I said if one is wrong they all are.
Einstein said
"An analogous consideration--applied to the axes of Y and Z--it being borne
in mind that light is always propagated with the velocity sqrt(c² - v²)
gives us @tau/@y = 0, @tau/@z = 0. "
tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) is Einstein's fabrication.
Majority verdict, the Y and Z axes win by 2: 1
If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are,
You keep repeating this mantra - it won't make it true. Try 2+2=5 for a
change.
You arseholes have been repeating the twin paradox mantra
for years and that won't make it go away either.
It's not true that "if one is right they all are, if one is wrong they
all are". This statement is nonsense.
Its not true that tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²). This statement is nonsense
and so are you.
Androcles.
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27 Feb 2006 02:32:12 AM |
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In article <6t5Mf.61405$DM.24975@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:dtq5un$sdb$3@leto.cc.emory.edu...
In article <hoYLf.68956$YJ4.9470@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140853940.359031.193340@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Empirical data
ALL data shows the speed of light in a vacuum is constant.
Don't be silly.
Get an education.
High school algebra:
x² + y² + z² = c²t² Einstein
xi² + eta² + zeta² = c²tau² Einstein
tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein
tau = (t-uy/c²)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles
tau = (t-wz/c²)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein
eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles
zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles
Right or wrong, dumbfuck?
What of the above is empircal data?
If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are,
pathetic *****.
For v = 0.866c, u = 0.866c, w = 0.866c the resultant velocity is
sqrt( 3/4 + 3/4 +3/4) = 1.5c
Right or wrong, shitforbrains?
Slept through science class?
Einstein said
eta = y,
zeta = z
because he did not know how to move sideways or up,
anencephalous cretin.
[quote]
we establish by definition that the "time" required by a crab to travel
from A to B equals the "time" it requires to travel from B to A.
[end quote]
Ref: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
Einstein can prove nothing can go faster than a crab.
Oops!... Did I say 'a crab'? Sorry...'light'.
"In agreement with experience we further assume the quantity
2AB/(t'A-tA) = c,
to be a universal constant--the velocity of light in empty space." --
Einstein.
In agreement with experience and without any assumption,
BA = -AB,
2AB = AC,
[AB +BA]/(t'A-tA) = 0
Hence c = 0 in Einstein's math.
Observation:
http://www.britastro.org/vss/gifc/00918-ck.gif
Explanation:
http://www.ebicom.net/~rsf1/sekerin.htm (fig 3)
(Or stars explode twice in three months, which is stupid).
In agreement with experience and without any assumption,
you remain an arrogant, illiterate, innumerate, illogical,
incompetent ***** without a scrap of logic in you, you whining little toad.
You don't have an inkling about mathematics or physics
and live in the vain hope some moron will think you are clever,
Mr SmartArse who pretends he understands physics and
doesn't have a clue how to synchronize his watch to Cassini
time.
Modern physics:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Synchronize/Synchronize.htm
*****, useless tord!
tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)
tau = (t-uy/c²)/sqrt(1-u²/c²)
tau = (t-wz/c²)/sqrt(1-w²/c²)
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)
eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²)
zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²)
If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are.
Carry three watches or do not move sideways or ride an elevator.
Personally I prefer three witches:
Double double, toil and trouble,
Fire burn and Einstein bubble. --- Pop!
Hexenmeister.
and the PoR.
Another falsehood.
A ***** like you wouldn't know what the PoR is.
"But the ray moves relatively to the initial point of k,
when measured in the stationary system, with the velocity c-v..." --
Einstein.
Androcles.
So when are you publishing all this? Can your Nobel be far behind?
ROTFL
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27 Feb 2006 12:21:25 PM |
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"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
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In article <6t5Mf.61405$DM.24975@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
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In article <hoYLf.68956$YJ4.9470@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Empirical data
ALL data shows the speed of light in a vacuum is constant.
Don't be silly.
Get an education.
I already have one, thanks.
High school algebra:
x² + y² + z² = c²t² Einstein
xi² + eta² + zeta² = c²tau² Einstein
tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein
tau = (t-uy/c²)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles
tau = (t-wz/c²)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein
eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles
zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles
Right or wrong, dumbfuck?
What of the above is empircal data?
The same empirical data Einstein wrote in "On the Electrodynamics
of Moving Bodies", *****. Of course you would not have read that
since you don't have an education, and even if you did you'd not be able
to understand it.
If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are,
pathetic *****.
For v = 0.866c, u = 0.866c, w = 0.866c the resultant velocity is
sqrt( 3/4 + 3/4 +3/4) = 1.5c
Right or wrong, shitforbrains?
Slept through science class?
Do you have any mathematics to discuss, arsehole?
If not *****, there's a good *****.
Einstein said
eta = y,
zeta = z
because he did not know how to move sideways or up,
anencephalous cretin.
[quote]
we establish by definition that the "time" required by a crab to travel
from A to B equals the "time" it requires to travel from B to A.
[end quote]
Ref: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
Einstein can prove nothing can go faster than a crab.
Oops!... Did I say 'a crab'? Sorry...'light'.
"In agreement with experience we further assume the quantity
2AB/(t'A-tA) = c,
to be a universal constant--the velocity of light in empty space." --
Einstein.
In agreement with experience and without any assumption,
BA = -AB,
2AB = AC,
[AB +BA]/(t'A-tA) = 0
Hence c = 0 in Einstein's math.
Observation:
http://www.britastro.org/vss/gifc/00918-ck.gif
Explanation:
http://www.ebicom.net/~rsf1/sekerin.htm (fig 3)
(Or stars explode twice in three months, which is stupid).
In agreement with experience and without any assumption,
you remain an arrogant, illiterate, innumerate, illogical,
incompetent ***** without a scrap of logic in you, you whining little toad.
You don't have an inkling about mathematics or physics
and live in the vain hope some moron will think you are clever,
Mr SmartArse who pretends he understands physics and
doesn't have a clue how to synchronize his watch to Cassini
time.
Modern physics:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Synchronize/Synchronize.htm
*****, useless tord!
tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)
tau = (t-uy/c²)/sqrt(1-u²/c²)
tau = (t-wz/c²)/sqrt(1-w²/c²)
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)
eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²)
zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²)
If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are.
Carry three watches or do not move sideways or ride an elevator.
Personally I prefer three witches:
Double double, toil and trouble,
Fire burn and Einstein bubble. --- Pop!
Hexenmeister.
and the PoR.
Another falsehood.
A ***** like you wouldn't know what the PoR is.
"But the ray moves relatively to the initial point of k,
when measured in the stationary system, with the velocity c-v..." --
Einstein.
Androcles.
So when are you publishing all this? Can your Nobel be far behind?
ROTFL
It's on my web page, not that an uneducated moron like you be able to
understand it since you don't know how to move sideways or up.
ROFLMAO!
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
Androcles.
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| User: "Lloyd Parker" |
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27 Feb 2006 07:26:48 AM |
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In article <FqHMf.85653$YJ4.74018@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:dtuv18$a84$2@leto.cc.emory.edu...
In article <6t5Mf.61405$DM.24975@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:dtq5un$sdb$3@leto.cc.emory.edu...
In article <hoYLf.68956$YJ4.9470@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140853940.359031.193340@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Empirical data
ALL data shows the speed of light in a vacuum is constant.
Don't be silly.
Get an education.
I already have one, thanks.
High school algebra:
x² + y² + z² = c²t² Einstein
xi² + eta² + zeta² = c²tau² Einstein
tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein
tau = (t-uy/c²)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles
tau = (t-wz/c²)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein
eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles
zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles
Right or wrong, dumbfuck?
What of the above is empircal data?
The same empirical data Einstein wrote in "On the Electrodynamics
of Moving Bodies", *****. Of course you would not have read that
since you don't have an education, and even if you did you'd not be able
to understand it.
If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are,
pathetic *****.
For v = 0.866c, u = 0.866c, w = 0.866c the resultant velocity is
sqrt( 3/4 + 3/4 +3/4) = 1.5c
Right or wrong, shitforbrains?
Slept through science class?
Do you have any mathematics to discuss, arsehole?
If not *****, there's a good *****.
Einstein said
eta = y,
zeta = z
because he did not know how to move sideways or up,
anencephalous cretin.
[quote]
we establish by definition that the "time" required by a crab to travel
from A to B equals the "time" it requires to travel from B to A.
[end quote]
Ref: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
Einstein can prove nothing can go faster than a crab.
Oops!... Did I say 'a crab'? Sorry...'light'.
"In agreement with experience we further assume the quantity
2AB/(t'A-tA) = c,
to be a universal constant--the velocity of light in empty space." --
Einstein.
In agreement with experience and without any assumption,
BA = -AB,
2AB = AC,
[AB +BA]/(t'A-tA) = 0
Hence c = 0 in Einstein's math.
Observation:
http://www.britastro.org/vss/gifc/00918-ck.gif
Explanation:
http://www.ebicom.net/~rsf1/sekerin.htm (fig 3)
(Or stars explode twice in three months, which is stupid).
In agreement with experience and without any assumption,
you remain an arrogant, illiterate, innumerate, illogical,
incompetent ***** without a scrap of logic in you, you whining little toad.
You don't have an inkling about mathematics or physics
and live in the vain hope some moron will think you are clever,
Mr SmartArse who pretends he understands physics and
doesn't have a clue how to synchronize his watch to Cassini
time.
Modern physics:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Synchronize/Synchronize.htm
*****, useless tord!
tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)
tau = (t-uy/c²)/sqrt(1-u²/c²)
tau = (t-wz/c²)/sqrt(1-w²/c²)
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)
eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²)
zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²)
If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are.
Carry three watches or do not move sideways or ride an elevator.
Personally I prefer three witches:
Double double, toil and trouble,
Fire burn and Einstein bubble. --- Pop!
Hexenmeister.
and the PoR.
Another falsehood.
A ***** like you wouldn't know what the PoR is.
"But the ray moves relatively to the initial point of k,
when measured in the stationary system, with the velocity c-v..." --
Einstein.
Androcles.
So when are you publishing all this? Can your Nobel be far behind?
ROTFL
It's on my web page, not that an uneducated moron like you be able to
understand it since you don't know how to move sideways or up.
ROFLMAO!
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
Androcles.
I understand Einstein. And you're no Einstein.
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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| Title: Re: Einstein's Hypnotists Make Fun of the Zombie World |
27 Feb 2006 02:23:43 PM |
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"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
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In article <FqHMf.85653$YJ4.74018@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:dtuv18$a84$2@leto.cc.emory.edu...
In article <6t5Mf.61405$DM.24975@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:dtq5un$sdb$3@leto.cc.emory.edu...
In article <hoYLf.68956$YJ4.9470@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140853940.359031.193340@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of
the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Empirical data
ALL data shows the speed of light in a vacuum is constant.
Don't be silly.
Get an education.
I already have one, thanks.
High school algebra:
x² + y² + z² = c²t² Einstein
xi² + eta² + zeta² = c²tau² Einstein
tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein
tau = (t-uy/c²)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles
tau = (t-wz/c²)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein
eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles
zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles
Right or wrong, dumbfuck?
What of the above is empircal data?
The same empirical data Einstein wrote in "On the Electrodynamics
of Moving Bodies", *****. Of course you would not have read that
since you don't have an education, and even if you did you'd not be able
to understand it.
If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are,
pathetic *****.
For v = 0.866c, u = 0.866c, w = 0.866c the resultant velocity is
sqrt( 3/4 + 3/4 +3/4) = 1.5c
Right or wrong, shitforbrains?
Slept through science class?
Do you have any mathematics to discuss, arsehole?
If not *****, there's a good *****.
Einstein said
eta = y,
zeta = z
because he did not know how to move sideways or up,
anencephalous cretin.
[quote]
we establish by definition that the "time" required by a crab to travel
from A to B equals the "time" it requires to travel from B to A.
[end quote]
Ref: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
Einstein can prove nothing can go faster than a crab.
Oops!... Did I say 'a crab'? Sorry...'light'.
"In agreement with experience we further assume the quantity
2AB/(t'A-tA) = c,
to be a universal constant--the velocity of light in empty space." --
Einstein.
In agreement with experience and without any assumption,
BA = -AB,
2AB = AC,
[AB +BA]/(t'A-tA) = 0
Hence c = 0 in Einstein's math.
Observation:
http://www.britastro.org/vss/gifc/00918-ck.gif
Explanation:
http://www.ebicom.net/~rsf1/sekerin.htm (fig 3)
(Or stars explode twice in three months, which is stupid).
In agreement with experience and without any assumption,
you remain an arrogant, illiterate, innumerate, illogical,
incompetent ***** without a scrap of logic in you, you whining little
toad.
You don't have an inkling about mathematics or physics
and live in the vain hope some moron will think you are clever,
Mr SmartArse who pretends he understands physics and
doesn't have a clue how to synchronize his watch to Cassini
time.
Modern physics:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Synchronize/Synchronize.htm
*****, useless tord!
tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)
tau = (t-uy/c²)/sqrt(1-u²/c²)
tau = (t-wz/c²)/sqrt(1-w²/c²)
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)
eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²)
zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²)
If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are.
Carry three watches or do not move sideways or ride an elevator.
Personally I prefer three witches:
Double double, toil and trouble,
Fire burn and Einstein bubble. --- Pop!
Hexenmeister.
and the PoR.
Another falsehood.
A ***** like you wouldn't know what the PoR is.
"But the ray moves relatively to the initial point of k,
when measured in the stationary system, with the velocity c-v..." --
Einstein.
Androcles.
So when are you publishing all this? Can your Nobel be far behind?
ROTFL
It's on my web page, not that an uneducated moron like you be able to
understand it since you don't know how to move sideways or up.
ROFLMAO!
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
Androcles.
I understand Einstein. And you're no Einstein.
No you don't, and I wouldn't want to be.
Now *****, there's a good *****.
Androcles.
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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| Title: Re: Einstein's Hypnotists Make Fun of the Zombie World |
25 Feb 2006 02:00:15 PM |
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In sci.physics.relativity, Lloyd Parker
<lparker@emory.edu>
wrote
on Sat, 25 Feb 06 12:59:43 GMT
<dtq5un$sdb$3@leto.cc.emory.edu>:
In article <hoYLf.68956$YJ4.9470@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey> wrote:
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140853940.359031.193340@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Pentcho Valev wrote:
This is misleading. You have a false principle - of constancy of the
speed of light -
Why is it false?
Empirical data
ALL data shows the speed of light in a vacuum is constant.
I'm not 100% sure of that -- 99%, maybe. All peer-reviewed
data might show that, for instance, but there was some
information about a year or so back that suggested
quantum tunnelling in an odd experiment goes faster
than light, through a gap in a metal (?) cube. Also,
"tired-light" theories -- in which a light quantum takes
time to travel, as measured in its own reference frame --
have been discredited. (Or one can do a theoretical
computation using the Lorentz, carefully eliding a
division by zero at the apporpriate spot.)
And of course Hexenmeister is apparently of the opinion
that various effects -- AQL1493 and Cassini, plus some
theoretical computations regarding Sagnac's effect --
show c'=c+v and/or absolute time, but the last I looked
none of them has been accepted by the laypress, nor has
the laypress expostulated a breakthrough in science by
scientists using them. (There have been some reports of
interesting neutron star-pairs, though; such are accepted,
as far as I read the articles, as very definitive evidence
for General Relativity.)
[rest snipped]
--
#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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