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"Pentcho Valev" |
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22 Sep 2006 10:22:25 AM |
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EINSTEIN'S SECOND POSTULATE AND THE ZOMBIE WORLD |
Concerning the importance of his second postulate Einstein was quite
clear:
"If the speed of light is the least bit affected by the speed of the
light source, then my whole theory of relativity and theory of gravity
is false."
It seems there can be no further ambiguity: shatter this postulate and
Einstein's world becomes Newton's world again. Not if Newton's world
has been converted into Einstein's ZOMBIE world - the vitality of this
malformation is independent of Einstein's second postulate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_speed_of_light
http://www.worldscibooks.com/physics/4114.html
http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch10.pdf p.35
("Relativity without c")
Pentcho Valev
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| User: "Dirk Van de moortel" |
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| Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S SECOND POSTULATE AND THE ZOMBIE WORLD |
22 Sep 2006 04:33:22 PM |
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"Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1158938544.886803.244310@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Concerning the importance of his second postulate Einstein was quite
clear:
"If the speed of light is the least bit affected by the speed of the
light source, then my whole theory of relativity and theory of gravity
is false."
It seems there can be no further ambiguity: shatter this postulate and
Einstein's world becomes Newton's world again. Not if Newton's world
has been converted into Einstein's ZOMBIE world - the vitality of this
malformation is independent of Einstein's second postulate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_speed_of_light
http://www.worldscibooks.com/physics/4114.html
http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch10.pdf p.35
("Relativity without c")
The latter is a truly excellent pointer, by the way.
Too bad you haven't got a clue about the meaning of it :-)
Pentcho Valev is a disgusting cretin who deliberately systematically
pig-headedly ignores the differences between;
- teachers and hypnotists,
- laymen and zombies,
- a person being right and a theory being right,
- students and imbeciles,
- bad science and bad engineering,
- bad engineering and bad cost management,
- honing the foundations of a theory and fighting it,
- physics and linguistics,
- an article written in 1905 and a theory created in 1915,
- understanding a book and turning its pages,
- speed and relative (aka closing) speed,
- doing algebra and randomly writing down symbols,
- real life and a Usenet hobby group,
- receiving a detailed reply and being ignored,
- everyday concepts and scientific concepts in physics,
- the three things that smell like fish,
- inertial and non-inertial,
- speed and velocity,
- an article and a book,
- relativity and disguised ether addiction,
- algebra and analytic geometry,
- kneeling down and bending over,
- local and global,
- a sycophant in English and in French,
- a relation and an equation,
- massive and massless particles,
- a Mexican poncho and a Sears poncho,
- implication and equivalence,
- group velocity and phase velocity,
- science and religion
Dirk Vdm
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| User: "Marin" |
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| Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S SECOND POSTULATE AND THE ZOMBIE WORLD |
22 Sep 2006 12:42:47 PM |
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"Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote:
Concerning the importance of his second postulate Einstein was quite
clear:
"If the speed of light is the least bit affected by the speed of the
light source, then my whole theory of relativity and theory of gravity
is false."
But the speed of light is not 'the least bit affected by the speed of the
light source,' as repeatedly verified by experment.
The sources you quoted in this post only talk about light in a medium --
not the speed of the source.
Is it the experiments that you don't believe? I don't get it.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S SECOND POSTULATE AND THE ZOMBIE WORLD |
22 Sep 2006 01:00:08 PM |
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Marin Daniello wrote:
"Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote:
Concerning the importance of his second postulate Einstein was quite
clear:
"If the speed of light is the least bit affected by the speed of the
light source, then my whole theory of relativity and theory of gravity
is false."
But the speed of light is not 'the least bit affected by the speed of the
light source,' as repeatedly verified by experment.
The sources you quoted in this post only talk about light in a medium --
not the speed of the source.
Is it the experiments that you don't believe? I don't get it.
Pentcho is a famous imbecile troll, ignore him
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| User: "Ahmed Ouahi, Architect" |
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| Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S SECOND POSTULATE AND THE ZOMBIE WORLD |
22 Sep 2006 01:08:44 PM |
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There are two ways of spreading light : to be the candle or the mirror that
reflects it.
-- Edith Wharton
--
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
Best Regards!
"Marin Daniello" <marind3234@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:20060922134423.664$Gk@newsreader.com...
"Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote:
Concerning the importance of his second postulate Einstein was quite
clear:
"If the speed of light is the least bit affected by the speed of the
light source, then my whole theory of relativity and theory of gravity
is false."
But the speed of light is not 'the least bit affected by the speed of the
light source,' as repeatedly verified by experment.
The sources you quoted in this post only talk about light in a medium --
not the speed of the source.
Is it the experiments that you don't believe? I don't get it.
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| User: "THE_ONE" |
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| Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S SECOND POSTULATE AND THE ZOMBIE WORLD |
22 Sep 2006 03:08:06 PM |
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Concerning the importance of his second postulate Einstein was quite
clear:
"If the speed of light is the least bit affected by the speed of the
light source, then my whole theory of relativity and theory of gravity
is false."
If particles are four dimensional, and they exist within a much larger
four dimensional Space-Time, then much can be understood.
For instance, if these four dimensional particles have spin properties,
then the axis does not have to be limited to being just a Spatial axis.
The axis can also extend across Time.
If one changes ones direction of travel in Space-Time, one also changes
the direction of which the axis points across that Space-Time. The end
result is that the faster one moves across Space ( and therefore the
less one travels across the Time dimension ) the greater the percentage
of the spin axis extends across Time, and the lesser percentage of the
spin axis now extends across Space.
In short, this Holistic rotation of the particles axis, will cause the
Spatial properties of the particle to contract in line with the
direction of travel, while it extends further across the Time dimension
instead. The length of the particle will contract.
Now if you have a meson that is at rest in space, when it decays it
will produce two Photons that fly apart with each traveling at the
speed of light (c).
If, on the other hand, the meson is in motion across Space, the
Space-Time axis of the meson has rotated such that the Spatial spin
angular momentum has reduced in the forward direction and has increased
in the reverse direction relative to the direction of travel. When
released, the end result is that the velocity of one Photon that
travels in the reverse direction is c + v, and the other that travels
in the forward direction is c -
v relative to the mesons original velocity. The end result is that the
original velocity of the meson is canceled out, and each Photon travels
at (c) velocity relative to Space-Time itself, or relative to the
universal background.
Thus the velocity of the object that emits light, does not effect the
speed of light, since the Space-Time axis of the particle that releases
the Photon is at a new angle in Space-Time, which therefore determines
a new spatial angular momentum, while at the same time has not altered
the original Holistic Space-Time angular momentum.
This also means that if a four dimensional particle receives a Photon,
then both its Holistic angular momentum and its axis angle in
Space-Time will be altered. This may happen several times over and
each time it will shift the axis angle and increase the Holistic
momentum one step further. Due to the shift in the axis angle occurring
while also there being an increase the Holistic momentum, the Spatial
angular axis always remains the same unless as discussed above, the
particles velocity is changed.
In this case, several Photons may be received, and several Photons may
then be released. The charging of the particle is actually an increase
in the particles Holistic angular momentum, along with the shift in the
particles axis angle in Space-Time.
In short, the release speed of a photon depends on the Spatial
properties of a particle, and so the rotation of the particle in
Space-Time will change the Spatial properties of the particle in
proportion with the change of velocity.
otion through time. Therefore, when it decays and splits into two
Photons, these Photons not only travel across Space at (c) velocity,
but they also retain the original velocity across the dimension of Time
which is also at the equivalent of (c) velocity.
Again, if the meson was in motion across Space, then the shift in its
axis angle will also maintain the Spatial travel of the Photon across
space to the (c) velocity, but it will also maintain the Photons travel
across Time to be the same equivalent of (c) velocity.
The end result is that the Photons have the momentum across Space-Time
that is the equivalent of 424,264 km per second if the momentum was
across Space only rather than being equally distributed across
Space-Time.
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| User: "THE_ONE" |
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| Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S SECOND POSTULATE AND THE ZOMBIE WORLD |
22 Sep 2006 03:57:58 PM |
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Correction to third last paragraph
THE_ONE wrote:
Concerning the importance of his second postulate Einstein was quite
clear:
"If the speed of light is the least bit affected by the speed of the
light source, then my whole theory of relativity and theory of gravity
is false."
If particles are four dimensional, and they exist within a much larger
four dimensional Space-Time, then much can be understood.
For instance, if these four dimensional particles have spin properties,
then the axis does not have to be limited to being just a Spatial axis.
The axis can also extend across Time.
If one changes ones direction of travel in Space-Time, one also changes
the direction of which the axis points across that Space-Time. The end
result is that the faster one moves across Space ( and therefore the
less one travels across the Time dimension ) the greater the percentage
of the spin axis extends across Time, and the lesser percentage of the
spin axis now extends across Space.
In short, this Holistic rotation of the particles axis, will cause the
Spatial properties of the particle to contract in line with the
direction of travel, while it extends further across the Time dimension
instead. The length of the particle will contract.
Now if you have a meson that is at rest in space, when it decays it
will produce two Photons that fly apart with each traveling at the
speed of light (c).
If, on the other hand, the meson is in motion across Space, the
Space-Time axis of the meson has rotated such that the Spatial spin
angular momentum has reduced in the forward direction and has increased
in the reverse direction relative to the direction of travel. When
released, the end result is that the velocity of one Photon that
travels in the reverse direction is c + v, and the other that travels
in the forward direction is c -v relative to the mesons original velocity.
The end result is that the original velocity of the meson is canceled out, and
each Photon travels at (c) velocity relative to Space-Time itself, or relative to
the universal background.
Thus the velocity of the object that emits light, does not effect the
speed of light, since the Space-Time axis of the particle that releases
the Photon is at a new angle in Space-Time, which therefore determines
a new spatial angular momentum, while at the same time has not altered
the original Holistic Space-Time angular momentum.
This also means that if a four dimensional particle receives a Photon,
then both its Holistic angular momentum and its axis angle in
Space-Time will be altered. This may happen several times over and
each time it will shift the axis angle and increase the Holistic
momentum one step further. Due to the shift in the axis angle occurring
while also there being an increase the Holistic momentum, the Spatial
angular axis always remains the same unless as discussed above, the
particles velocity is changed.
In this case, several Photons may be received, and several Photons may
then be released. The charging of the particle is actually an increase
in the particles Holistic angular momentum, along with the shift in the
particles axis angle in Space-Time.
In short, the release speed of a photon depends on the Spatial
properties of a particle, and so the rotation of the particle in
Space-Time will change the Spatial properties of the particle in
proportion with the change of velocity.
The Meson, when at rest in Space, is in motion through time.(otion
through Time)
otion through time. Therefore, when it decays and splits into two
Photons, these Photons not only travel across Space at (c) velocity,
but they also retain the original velocity across the dimension of Time
which is also at the equivalent of (c) velocity.
Again, if the meson was in motion across Space, then the shift in its
axis angle will also maintain the Spatial travel of the Photon across
space to the (c) velocity, but it will also maintain the Photons travel
across Time to be the same equivalent of (c) velocity.
The end result is that the Photons have the momentum across Space-Time
that is the equivalent of 424,264 km per second if the momentum was
across Space only rather than being equally distributed across
Space-Time.
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| User: "jcon" |
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| Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S SECOND POSTULATE AND THE ZOMBIE WORLD |
22 Sep 2006 02:22:56 PM |
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Pentcho Valev wrote:
Concerning the importance of his second postulate Einstein was quite
clear:
"If the speed of light is the least bit affected by the speed of the
light source, then my whole theory of relativity and theory of gravity
is false."
Because Einstein erroneously believed his words would
be read by sane people, he did not trouble to add "in a vacuum"
to "speed of light" in places where he thought it was obvious.
-jc
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