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Science > Physics |
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"Pentcho Valev" |
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04 Oct 2006 03:00:23 AM |
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EINSTEIN'S SYCOPHANTS AND THE NOBEL PRIZE |
You would not win the Nobel prize in physics unless you worship Divine
Albert in the right way. Here is a list of candidates:
http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/my_einstein06/my_einstein06_index.html
Note that the present winner George Smoot had to change his dithyramb
in the right way recently (otherwise someone else from the list would
have taken the money):
"Aesthetic arguments, while useful as development tools, especially
when there are no observations to guide the effort, made me
uneasy-seemed a throwback to Greek reasoning about the celestial
spheres. MORE RECENTLY, I CAME TO REALIZE that Einstein based special
relativity not on pure thought alone but....."
Pentcho Valev
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| User: "MTD" |
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| Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S SYCOPHANTS AND THE NOBEL PRIZE |
04 Oct 2006 10:32:54 AM |
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"Aesthetic arguments, while useful as development tools, especially
when there are no observations to guide the effort, made me
uneasy-seemed a throwback to Greek reasoning about the celestial
spheres. MORE RECENTLY, I CAME TO REALIZE that Einstein based special
relativity not on pure thought alone but....."
It is funny and disingenuous to snip a quote when the latter part of it
fails to support your argument.
Here is the latter part of the above quoted text:
"More recently, I came to realize that Einstein based special
relativity not on pure thought alone but upon a great deal of physical
observation and codifying theory-in particular, electromagnetism and
the theory of light via James Clerk Maxwell's equations. Einstein was
certainly aware of Lorentz's work, but was coming from the Maxwell
side, not the Michelson-Morley results. He was reducing these ideas
down to two essential postulates added onto the existing physics: (1)
The speed of light is definite and independent of the speed of the
source or of the observer, and (2) the laws of physics are the same in
every inertial frame. From these two postulates and thought
experiments, one can derive all the consequences of special relativity,
including the Lorentz transformations, time dilation, length
contraction, loss of simultaneity, E=mc2, and the lot!"
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| User: "Ahmed Ouahi, Architect" |
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| Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S SYCOPHANTS AND THE NOBEL PRIZE |
04 Oct 2006 10:57:38 AM |
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The point in a fact, is that, the relativity in a general as in a
particular, has had always existed, as it has had always been waiting as
expecting, by some one, to be formulated as expressed, simply as that, and
this is what is all about, a definitely as a matter a fact.
--
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
Best Regards!
"MTD" <marc.t.davies@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159975974.651280.170910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
"Aesthetic arguments, while useful as development tools, especially
when there are no observations to guide the effort, made me
uneasy-seemed a throwback to Greek reasoning about the celestial
spheres. MORE RECENTLY, I CAME TO REALIZE that Einstein based special
relativity not on pure thought alone but....."
It is funny and disingenuous to snip a quote when the latter part of it
fails to support your argument.
Here is the latter part of the above quoted text:
"More recently, I came to realize that Einstein based special
relativity not on pure thought alone but upon a great deal of physical
observation and codifying theory-in particular, electromagnetism and
the theory of light via James Clerk Maxwell's equations. Einstein was
certainly aware of Lorentz's work, but was coming from the Maxwell
side, not the Michelson-Morley results. He was reducing these ideas
down to two essential postulates added onto the existing physics: (1)
The speed of light is definite and independent of the speed of the
source or of the observer, and (2) the laws of physics are the same in
every inertial frame. From these two postulates and thought
experiments, one can derive all the consequences of special relativity,
including the Lorentz transformations, time dilation, length
contraction, loss of simultaneity, E=mc2, and the lot!"
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S SYCOPHANTS AND THE NOBEL PRIZE |
04 Oct 2006 11:55:17 PM |
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Pentcho Valev wrote:
You would not win the Nobel prize in physics unless you worship Divine
Albert in the right way. Here is a list of candidates:
http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/my_einstein06/my_einstein06_index.html
Note that the present winner George Smoot had to change his dithyramb
in the right way recently (otherwise someone else from the list would
have taken the money):
"Aesthetic arguments, while useful as development tools, especially
when there are no observations to guide the effort, made me
uneasy-seemed a throwback to Greek reasoning about the celestial
spheres. MORE RECENTLY, I CAME TO REALIZE that Einstein based special
relativity not on pure thought alone but....."
That's hardly true, since as he quite clearly states in the paper,
he based it the on the asymmetric experimental results
of Maxwell electrodynamics, the farfield uniformity of c,
and the non-existence of aether.
If he was going to base it on ANYTHING greek, he
wouldn't have even mentioned Maxwell.
Pentcho Valev
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S SYCOPHANTS AND THE NOBEL PRIZE |
04 Oct 2006 07:51:59 PM |
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Pentcho Valev wrote:
You would not win the Nobel prize in physics unless you worship Divine
Albert in the right way. Here is a list of candidates:
The only way those idiots know how to worship
anything is by denial.
No. Albert never heard of atom bombs, explosives. Nobel,
Goedel, Hibert, Maxwell, Newton, or Poincare.
It was ALL pure virtual Euclid magic.
It was anything else it won't be Kosher.
http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/my_einstein06/my_einstein06_index.html
Note that the present winner George Smoot had to change his dithyramb
in the right way recently (otherwise someone else from the list would
have taken the money):
"Aesthetic arguments, while useful as development tools, especially
when there are no observations to guide the effort, made me
uneasy-seemed a throwback to Greek reasoning about the celestial
spheres. MORE RECENTLY, I CAME TO REALIZE that Einstein based special
relativity not on pure thought alone but....."
Pentcho Valev
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| User: "AJAY SHARMA" |
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| Title: Re: EINSTEIN'S SYCOPHANTS AND THE NOBEL PRIZE |
04 Oct 2006 11:16:32 PM |
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wrote:
Pentcho Valev wrote:
You would not win the Nobel prize in physics unless you worship Divine
Albert in the right way. Here is a list of candidates:
The only way those idiots know how to worship
anything is by denial.
No. Albert never heard of atom bombs, explosives. Nobel,
Goedel, Hibert, Maxwell, Newton, or Poincare.
It was ALL pure virtual Euclid magic.
It was anything else it won't be Kosher.
http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/my_einstein06/my_einstein06_index.html
Note that the present winner George Smoot had to change his dithyramb
in the right way recently (otherwise someone else from the list would
have taken the money):
"Aesthetic arguments, while useful as development tools, especially
when there are no observations to guide the effort, made me
uneasy-seemed a throwback to Greek reasoning about the celestial
spheres. MORE RECENTLY, I CAME TO REALIZE that Einstein based special
relativity not on pure thought alone but....."
Pentcho Valev
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