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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "gsax"
Date: 12 Jul 2005 05:15:06 AM
Object: Einstein's thoughts on particle theory of light
Hi
From what I gather about the history of Quantum Mechanics, Einstein
came up with the idea of photons to explain the Photoelectric effect in
1905....
Also he did that before DeBroglie came up with his wave/particle
duality...
My question is ... how did Einstein suggest that light was made up of
particles, while knowing that the particle theory fails to explain
interference?
Now, the only way out is to know that light shows dual nature of
wave/particle, but that was something Einstein did not know while
suggesting photons as explanation for Photoelectric effect...
So how could he suggest particle theory of light, without knowing about
wave/particle duality , & knowing that particle theory cant explain
interference..
thanks
Gsax
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User: "Guy Gordon"

Title: Re: Einstein's thoughts on particle theory of light 13 Jul 2005 05:22:50 AM
"gsax" <gaurav_iitg@yahoo.com> wrote:

My question is ... how did Einstein suggest that light was made up of
particles, while knowing that the particle theory fails to explain
interference?

The best way for you to answer that question is to go and read Einstein's 1905
paper.
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User: "zzbunker"

Title: Re: Einstein's thoughts on particle theory of light 13 Jul 2005 07:35:28 AM
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"gsax" <gaurav_iitg@yahoo.com> wrote:

My question is ... how did Einstein suggest that light was made up of
particles, while knowing that the particle theory fails to explain
interference?

He didn't. Newton suggested light was made of particles.
Einstein suggested it was made of momentons.


The best way for you to answer that question is to go and read Einstein's

1905

paper.




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User: "John Sefton"

Title: Re: Einstein's thoughts on particle theory of light 12 Jul 2005 07:02:57 AM
gsax wrote:

Hi

From what I gather about the history of Quantum Mechanics, Einstein
came up with the idea of photons to explain the Photoelectric effect in
1905....

Also he did that before DeBroglie came up with his wave/particle
duality...

My question is ... how did Einstein suggest that light was made up of
particles, while knowing that the particle theory fails to explain
interference?

Now, the only way out

I love how Physics gets a
problem and immediately casts it into
an either/or situation.
What about multiple choice?
Answer: none of the above.
Answer: (a), sort of, but not the way you think.
I can't decide.
is to know that light shows dual nature of

wave/particle, but that was something Einstein did not know while
suggesting photons as explanation for Photoelectric effect...

So how could he suggest particle theory of light, without knowing about
wave/particle duality , & knowing that particle theory cant explain
interference..


thanks
Gsax

.

User: "Bjoern Feuerbacher"

Title: Re: Einstein's thoughts on particle theory of light 12 Jul 2005 06:42:26 AM
gsax wrote:

Hi

From what I gather about the history of Quantum Mechanics, Einstein
came up with the idea of photons to explain the Photoelectric effect in
1905....

Also he did that before DeBroglie came up with his wave/particle
duality...

You are somehow confused here. AFAIK, de Broglie did not come up with
the idea of wave/particle duality. He merely suggested that the
already *known* wave/particle duality for light also holds for "matter
particles" like electrons.

My question is ... how did Einstein suggest that light was made up of
particles, while knowing that the particle theory fails to explain
interference?

Don't know exactly, but probably by coming up with something like
wave/particle duality.

Now, the only way out is to know that light shows dual nature of
wave/particle, but that was something Einstein did not know while
suggesting photons as explanation for Photoelectric effect...

Why should he have needed to know that? He could have suggested that
on his own.
[snip]
Bye,
Bjoern
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User: "Schoenfeld"

Title: Re: Einstein's thoughts on particle theory of light 12 Jul 2005 07:05:45 AM
gsax wrote:

Hi

From what I gather about the history of Quantum Mechanics, Einstein
came up with the idea of photons to explain the Photoelectric effect in
1905....
Also he did that before DeBroglie came up with his wave/particle
duality...

My question is ... how did Einstein suggest that light was made up of
particles, while knowing that the particle theory fails to explain
interference?

Newton first proposed that light are particles.

Now, the only way out is to know that light shows dual nature of
wave/particle, but that was something Einstein did not know while
suggesting photons as explanation for Photoelectric effect...

So how could he suggest particle theory of light, without knowing about
wave/particle duality , & knowing that particle theory cant explain
interference..


thanks
Gsax

.
User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: Einstein's thoughts on particle theory of light 12 Jul 2005 07:16:51 AM
Read the book dumbass and stop trying to take a short cut .
No one will read it to you or tell you how it ends.
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