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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Jerome"
Date: 14 Aug 2003 02:33:13 PM
Object: Electrolysis Device at the Bottom of the Ocean
Thinking of Tesla's Fuelless Generator and our society's penchant for fuel
cells:
How deep and/or big would an electrolysis device have to be to produce
hydrogen on a self-sustaining basis - if the device could capture all needed
energy from a turbine powered by water rushing in to replace the volume of
hydrogen escaping from the device? In effect this would use the Earth's
gravity to liberate hydrogen from water.
I don't know the effect pressure has on electrolysis performance, or what
environmentally minded people might think of all the chlorine (if used in
seawater) such a device would generate either.
I suspect a self sustaining device could not be built - but could a device
like this at least help return a greater energy conversion efficiency?
Jerome
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User: "Old Man"

Title: Re: Electrolysis Device at the Bottom of the Ocean 14 Aug 2003 06:26:57 PM
Jerome <sittin@home.org> wrote in message
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Thinking of Tesla's Fuelless Generator and our society's penchant for fuel
cells:

How deep and/or big would an electrolysis device have to be to produce
hydrogen on a self-sustaining basis - if the device could capture all

needed

energy from a turbine powered by water rushing in to replace the volume of
hydrogen escaping from the device? In effect this would use the Earth's
gravity to liberate hydrogen from water.

I don't know the effect pressure has on electrolysis performance, or what
environmentally minded people might think of all the chlorine (if used in
seawater) such a device would generate either.

I suspect a self sustaining device could not be built - but could a device
like this at least help return a greater energy conversion efficiency?

Jerome

E / m*h = g = 9.8 Joule / kg-meter
= 6.1 x 10^(19) eV / kg-meter
1 kg water => 56 moles / kg
N / m => 3.4 x 10^(25) molecules / kg
E / N*h => 1.8 x 10(-6) eV / molecule-meter
Drop a water molecule through 1 meter and get ~ 2 x 10(-6) eV.
At best, several eV are required to electrolyze a water molecule.
Off by at least a million to one. Sorta dumb. [Old Man]
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