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02 Feb 2005 10:16:19 AM |
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End of transistors |
NEW YORK, February 2 (newratings.com) – Hewlett Packard (HPQ.NYS) has announced that its researchers
have discovered a technology that would replace transistors, the fundamental building blocks of a
computer, in the forthcoming years. The discovery would help the reinvention of the computer at a
molecular scale.
The computer company’s researchers say that they have discovered devices called "crossbar latches"
which provide the signal restoration and inversion required for general computing without the need
for transistors. These crossbar latches can be manufactured in very small sizes, with several
thousand expected to be fitted across a single width of human hair, thus shrinking the size of
computers. Stan Williams, director of Hewlett-Packard’s Quantum Science Research Group said, "We are
reinventing the computer at the molecular scale. The crossbar latch provides a key element needed
for building a computer using nanometre-sized devices that are relatively inexpensive and easy to
build." There is need to study the properties of a circuit composed of crossbar latches and then
build such circuits, Williams said. These devices are likely to first complement the transistors and
gradually replace them, Hewlett Packard added
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| User: "fellow" |
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| Title: Re: End of transistors |
02 Feb 2005 07:15:49 PM |
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"habshi" <habshi@anony.net> wrote in message
news:4200ee02.2184189@news.clara.net...
NEW YORK, February 2 (newratings.com) - Hewlett Packard (HPQ.NYS) has
announced that its researchers
have discovered a technology that would replace transistors, the
fundamental building blocks of a
computer, in the forthcoming years. The discovery would help the
reinvention of the computer at a
molecular scale.
The computer company's researchers say that they have discovered devices
called "crossbar latches"
which provide the signal restoration and inversion required for general
computing without the need
for transistors. These crossbar latches can be manufactured in very small
sizes, with several
thousand expected to be fitted across a single width of human hair, thus
shrinking the size of
computers. Stan Williams, director of Hewlett-Packard's Quantum Science
Research Group said, "We are
reinventing the computer at the molecular scale. The crossbar latch
provides a key element needed
for building a computer using nanometre-sized devices that are relatively
inexpensive and easy to
build." There is need to study the properties of a circuit composed of
crossbar latches and then
build such circuits, Williams said. These devices are likely to first
complement the transistors and
gradually replace them, Hewlett Packard added
Oh, fucking hell. No more transistors so no more analogue. Riiiiiiight.
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| User: "Zigoteau" |
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| Title: Re: End of transistors |
02 Feb 2005 02:01:12 PM |
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Hi, Habshi,
NEW YORK, February 2 (newratings.com) - Hewlett Packard
(HPQ.NYS) has announced that its researchers
have discovered a technology that would replace
transistors, the fundamental building blocks of a
computer, in the forthcoming years. The discovery
would help the reinvention of the computer at a
molecular scale.
The computer company's researchers say that they
have discovered devices called "crossbar latches"
which provide the signal restoration and inversion
required for general computing without the need
for transistors. These crossbar latches can be
manufactured in very small sizes, with several
thousand expected to be fitted across a single
width of human hair, thus shrinking the size of
computers. Stan Williams, director of Hewlett-Packard's
Quantum Science Research Group said, "We are
reinventing the computer at the molecular scale.
The crossbar latch provides a key element needed
for building a computer using nanometre-sized
devices that are relatively inexpensive and easy to
build." There is need to study the properties of
a circuit composed of crossbar latches and then
build such circuits, Williams said. These devices
are likely to first complement the transistors and
gradually replace them, Hewlett Packard added
It is not clear from the newratings.com report, but I think that
Williams must be referring to the switching phenomenon reported by a
HP-Caltech collaboration last year, with Williams as one of the
authors, in Lau et al., Nano Lett. 4 (2004) 569-572. They claimed to
have been the first to observe this switching. In fact a group at Canon
had already worked on it for a long time and reported it widely, e.g
Sakai et al., Appl. Phys. Lett. 53 (1988) 1274-1276. Canon were hoping
to use it for high-volume data storage, but in the end they could not
get the write rates up high enough and they were beaten by the
improvements in magnetic storage technology. Canon were not the first:
there are reports of switching in ultrathin films going back to the
60s.
It's a two-terminal device principle, and I seriously doubt that HP
will be able to build large systems based on it.
Cheers,
Zigoteau.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: End of transistors |
02 Feb 2005 02:24:18 PM |
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Habishi--
If the world stops building transistors, think how many many more P-N
junctions will be available to lower the cost of solar cells. Your
Indian solar powered rickshaw has a chance. Good work! ;-)
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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02 Feb 2005 03:03:33 PM |
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wrote:
Habishi--
If the world stops building transistors, think how many many more P-N
junctions will be available to lower the cost of solar cells. Your
Indian solar powered rickshaw has a chance. Good work! ;-)
Ain't stooopidity grand?
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "" |
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02 Feb 2005 03:21:36 PM |
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Uncle Al.
Yep--I've never seen a post from Habishi that was an original
thought--I'm not sure what his gig is--but I'm not going to make a run
on transistors in fear that they'll stop being produced.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: End of transistors |
02 Feb 2005 12:40:16 PM |
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In sci.physics habshi <habshi@anony.net> wrote:
NEW YORK, February 2 (newratings.com) ? Hewlett Packard (HPQ.NYS) has announced that its researchers
have discovered a technology that would replace transistors, the fundamental building blocks of a
computer, in the forthcoming years. The discovery would help the reinvention of the computer at a
molecular scale.
The computer company?s researchers say that they have discovered devices called "crossbar latches"
which provide the signal restoration and inversion required for general computing without the need
for transistors. These crossbar latches can be manufactured in very small sizes, with several
thousand expected to be fitted across a single width of human hair, thus shrinking the size of
computers. Stan Williams, director of Hewlett-Packard?s Quantum Science Research Group said, "We are
reinventing the computer at the molecular scale. The crossbar latch provides a key element needed
for building a computer using nanometre-sized devices that are relatively inexpensive and easy to
build." There is need to study the properties of a circuit composed of crossbar latches and then
build such circuits, Williams said. These devices are likely to first complement the transistors and
gradually replace them, Hewlett Packard added
There's more to electronics than computer logic.
How do you build the RF section for a cell phone from logic devices?
Idiot.
--
Jim Pennino
Remove -spam-sux to reply.
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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02 Feb 2005 11:02:04 AM |
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habshi wrote:
NEW YORK, February 2 (newratings.com) – Hewlett Packard (HPQ.NYS) has announced that its researchers
have discovered a technology that would replace transistors,
[snip]
Idiot wog.
The computer company’s researchers say that they have discovered devices called "crossbar latches"
which provide the signal restoration and inversion required for general computing without the need
for transistors.
[snip]
65 nm MOSFET architecture in development will be junked. Riiight.
Hey idiot wog, tell us about the IBM BEAMOS breakthrough in storage or
the IBM 10-layer CDROM.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: End of transistors |
02 Feb 2005 12:17:28 PM |
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10 layer CD rom..you mean 10 referance beam angles running at the same
time.
Thats allmost holographic.
All you nead then is a data beam .
Then its a holographic.
the planet is gaining ground on me.
next they will be burning car windows.
Give a tour of te hood without starting the car.
I have a holographic phone booth built buy dream works in Hong Kong in
1998.
Its so real and so 3d its spookie.
standing 3000 feet up ,,and then underwater on the sea floor. 100
images panoramic holographic HD burnt into crystal glass windows to
form a box.
100 images burnt into a window.
it was $ 200,000 and I out bid chicogo museum and said they can have
itafter I play with it.
They biuld digital pool tables.
The only thing real is the stick.
It looks like the balls are under the glass but there are none. the
ball re-apears evry inch as motion.
I saw chicogo museum 3d holographic head that looks at you and blows a
kiss when you walk by. It makes direct eye contact with evryone .
Just te head too.
Ya we know holographic files on CD could run 10 pc at the same time.
But paralell PCs would just be a bigger PC.
Bigger quicker.
how can you shade a cd so as a laser shines threw it , wile it turns
, it shines threw at one point and not the next point making the laser
blink as it shines threw.
Thats easy , shine it strait threw and anything that dont go strait
threw wount hit the detector
and is the same as hitting a shaded point and not making it threw.
You can do it at 10 angles at once if you buld 10 lasers and 10
detectors.
Or one detector and a referance beam.
and move from agle to angle with a laser painter laser image .
maybe in 20 years you can buy a window with 2 movies on it.
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| User: "Absolute Zero" |
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02 Feb 2005 01:26:49 PM |
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Uncle Al wrote:
habshi wrote:
NEW YORK, February 2 (newratings.com) – Hewlett Packard (HPQ.NYS) has announced that its researchers
have discovered a technology that would replace transistors,
[snip]
Idiot wog.
Golly, I assumed you were a septic.
BTW, is this a wind up?
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/betel.htm
Betelguese is 1/20 of the distance to the crab nebula... so 400x
"brighter" from our pov, right? Your prognosis seems somewhat extreme.
<your abusive reply here>
-A
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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02 Feb 2005 02:24:15 PM |
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Absolute Zero wrote:
Uncle Al wrote:
habshi wrote:
NEW YORK, February 2 (newratings.com) – Hewlett Packard (HPQ.NYS) has announced that its researchers
have discovered a technology that would replace transistors,
[snip]
Idiot wog.
Golly, I assumed you were a septic.
BTW, is this a wind up?
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/betel.htm
Betelguese is 1/20 of the distance to the crab nebula... so 400x
"brighter" from our pov, right? Your prognosis seems somewhat extreme.
I'm hoping.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "Absolute Zero" |
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03 Feb 2005 07:58:00 PM |
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Uncle Al wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:
Uncle Al wrote:
habshi wrote:
NEW YORK, February 2 (newratings.com) – Hewlett Packard (HPQ.NYS) has announced that its researchers
have discovered a technology that would replace transistors,
[snip]
Idiot wog.
Golly, I assumed you were a septic.
BTW, is this a wind up?
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/betel.htm
Betelguese is 1/20 of the distance to the crab nebula... so 400x
"brighter" from our pov, right? Your prognosis seems somewhat extreme.
I'm hoping.
Ah, the misanthropic principle.
Thanks for clearing that up.
-A
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