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09 Apr 2007 06:42:44 PM |
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Enough energy in hot rocks for thousandfold increase in US energy needs |
Hard to believe but true according to a recent study ,
reported in this months Scientific American
Adrian Williams, the company's interim chief executive, said rock
temperatures range from 250 to 300 degrees, making the Cooper Basin
"arguably the most attractive place in the world for generating power
from hot rocks."
Mr Williams estimates the power-producing capacity may exceed 10,000
megawatts, in the order of 15 Snowy Hydro schemes.
He estimates geothermal power can be produced at about $45 per
megawatt-hour, equivalent to natural gas but without the carbon
emissions. (Electricity from brown and black coal costs about $35 per
MWh.)
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10 Apr 2007 11:53:36 AM |
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On Apr 9, 6:42 pm, (habshi) wrote:
Hard to believe but true according to a recent study ,
reported in this months Scientific American
Adrian Williams, the company's interim chief executive, said rock
temperatures range from 250 to 300 degrees, making the Cooper Basin
"arguably the most attractive place in the world for generating power
from hot rocks."
Mr Williams estimates the power-producing capacity may exceed 10,000
megawatts, in the order of 15 Snowy Hydro schemes.
He estimates geothermal power can be produced at about $45 per
megawatt-hour, equivalent to natural gas but without the carbon
emissions. (Electricity from brown and black coal costs about $35 per
MWh.)
While there are people working on this, there are of course issues:
- This only works in regions where geothermal heat is available close
to the processing plant. The fact that it is not viable in an
arbitrary location makes the technology inherently more expensive, as
it is a niche technology.
- Efficiency of energy conversion to useful work depends strongly on
temperature difference between hot and cold reservoirs. The hot
reservoir temperature of 250 to 300 degrees is pretty darned low,
which means that thermal efficiency will be low, which means that the
bulk of the heat that is sent through the system will be emitted as
heat. I'll betcha the power cost estimate above does not include
mitigating the effects of thermal pollution from so much heat
exhausted to the environment. I'll betcha that adds at least $10-$15
per mW-hr.
PD
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10 Apr 2007 12:12:47 PM |
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On Apr 10, 11:53 am, "PD" <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 9, 6:42 pm, (habshi) wrote:
Hard to believe but true according to a recent study ,
reported in this months Scientific American
Adrian Williams, the company's interim chief executive, said rock
temperatures range from 250 to 300 degrees, making the Cooper Basin
"arguably the most attractive place in the world for generating power
from hot rocks."
Mr Williams estimates the power-producing capacity may exceed 10,000
megawatts, in the order of 15 Snowy Hydro schemes.
He estimates geothermal power can be produced at about $45 per
megawatt-hour, equivalent to natural gas but without the carbon
emissions. (Electricity from brown and black coal costs about $35 per
MWh.)
While there are people working on this, there are of course issues:
- This only works in regions where geothermal heat is available close
to the processing plant. The fact that it is not viable in an
arbitrary location makes the technology inherently more expensive, as
it is a niche technology.
- Efficiency of energy conversion to useful work depends strongly on
temperature difference between hot and cold reservoirs. The hot
reservoir temperature of 250 to 300 degrees is pretty darned low,
which means that thermal efficiency will be low, which means that the
bulk of the heat that is sent through the system will be emitted as
heat. I'll betcha the power cost estimate above does not include
mitigating the effects of thermal pollution from so much heat
exhausted to the environment. I'll betcha that adds at least $10-$15
per mW-hr.
PD
Let's say we were able to sink a hole through the Earth's mantle and
into all that molten rock. Are there any current technologies to
convert that heat into electricity?
Dwib
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10 Apr 2007 12:45:02 PM |
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In sci.physics Dwib <dwibdwib@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 10, 11:53 am, "PD" <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 9, 6:42 pm, (habshi) wrote:
Hard to believe but true according to a recent study ,
reported in this months Scientific American
Adrian Williams, the company's interim chief executive, said rock
temperatures range from 250 to 300 degrees, making the Cooper Basin
"arguably the most attractive place in the world for generating power
from hot rocks."
Mr Williams estimates the power-producing capacity may exceed 10,000
megawatts, in the order of 15 Snowy Hydro schemes.
He estimates geothermal power can be produced at about $45 per
megawatt-hour, equivalent to natural gas but without the carbon
emissions. (Electricity from brown and black coal costs about $35 per
MWh.)
While there are people working on this, there are of course issues:
- This only works in regions where geothermal heat is available close
to the processing plant. The fact that it is not viable in an
arbitrary location makes the technology inherently more expensive, as
it is a niche technology.
- Efficiency of energy conversion to useful work depends strongly on
temperature difference between hot and cold reservoirs. The hot
reservoir temperature of 250 to 300 degrees is pretty darned low,
which means that thermal efficiency will be low, which means that the
bulk of the heat that is sent through the system will be emitted as
heat. I'll betcha the power cost estimate above does not include
mitigating the effects of thermal pollution from so much heat
exhausted to the environment. I'll betcha that adds at least $10-$15
per mW-hr.
PD
Let's say we were able to sink a hole through the Earth's mantle and
into all that molten rock. Are there any current technologies to
convert that heat into electricity?
Depends on whether or not you concider the steam engine to be
current technology as it was invented circa 1698.
Actually, one would use a steam turbine which was invented in 1884.
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10 Apr 2007 12:36:08 PM |
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On Apr 10, 10:12 am, "Dwib" <dwibd...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 10, 11:53 am, "PD" <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 9, 6:42 pm, (habshi) wrote:
Hard to believe but true according to a recent study ,
reported in this months Scientific American
Adrian Williams, the company's interim chief executive, said rock
temperatures range from 250 to 300 degrees, making the Cooper Basin
"arguably the most attractive place in the world for generating power
from hot rocks."
Mr Williams estimates the power-producing capacity may exceed 10,000
megawatts, in the order of 15 Snowy Hydro schemes.
He estimates geothermal power can be produced at about $45 per
megawatt-hour, equivalent to natural gas but without the carbon
emissions. (Electricity from brown and black coal costs about $35 per
MWh.)
While there are people working on this, there are of course issues:
- This only works in regions where geothermal heat is available close
to the processing plant. The fact that it is not viable in an
arbitrary location makes the technology inherently more expensive, as
it is a niche technology.
- Efficiency of energy conversion to useful work depends strongly on
temperature difference between hot and cold reservoirs. The hot
reservoir temperature of 250 to 300 degrees is pretty darned low,
which means that thermal efficiency will be low, which means that the
bulk of the heat that is sent through the system will be emitted as
heat. I'll betcha the power cost estimate above does not include
mitigating the effects of thermal pollution from so much heat
exhausted to the environment. I'll betcha that adds at least $10-$15
per mW-hr.
PD
Let's say we were able to sink a hole through the Earth's mantle and
into all that molten rock. Are there any current technologies to
convert that heat into electricity?
Dwib
All this talk is made by people with only an understanding that at sea
level water boils at 100 C.
Geothermal can only exist if there ALREADY a steam pack. There is no
way to make steam simply because there is hot rocks some place. You
need a way to extract the *existing* steam. If there is only hot
rocks, then you have to figure out a way to inject water in the hot
rock area AND extract it in the form of *pressurized steam*. As I
understand it, this is the ONLY way there is any kilowatts produced
from geothermal.
Otherwise this is a complete waste of bandwidth.
David
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10 Apr 2007 01:21:36 PM |
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On Apr 10, 1:36 pm, wrote:
On Apr 10, 10:12 am, "Dwib" <dwibd...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 10, 11:53 am, "PD" <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 9, 6:42 pm, (habshi) wrote:
Hard to believe but true according to a recent study ,
reported in this months Scientific American
Adrian Williams, the company's interim chief executive, said rock
temperatures range from 250 to 300 degrees, making the Cooper Basin
"arguably the most attractive place in the world for generating power
from hot rocks."
Mr Williams estimates the power-producing capacity may exceed 10,000
megawatts, in the order of 15 Snowy Hydro schemes.
He estimates geothermal power can be produced at about $45 per
megawatt-hour, equivalent to natural gas but without the carbon
emissions. (Electricity from brown and black coal costs about $35 per
MWh.)
While there are people working on this, there are of course issues:
- This only works in regions where geothermal heat is available close
to the processing plant. The fact that it is not viable in an
arbitrary location makes the technology inherently more expensive, as
it is a niche technology.
- Efficiency of energy conversion to useful work depends strongly on
temperature difference between hot and cold reservoirs. The hot
reservoir temperature of 250 to 300 degrees is pretty darned low,
which means that thermal efficiency will be low, which means that the
bulk of the heat that is sent through the system will be emitted as
heat. I'll betcha the power cost estimate above does not include
mitigating the effects of thermal pollution from so much heat
exhausted to the environment. I'll betcha that adds at least $10-$15
per mW-hr.
PD
Let's say we were able to sink a hole through the Earth's mantle and
into all that molten rock. Are there any current technologies to
convert that heat into electricity?
Dwib
All this talk is made by people with only an understanding that at sea
level water boils at 100 C.
Geothermal can only exist if there ALREADY a steam pack. There is no
way to make steam simply because there is hot rocks some place. You
need a way to extract the *existing* steam. If there is only hot
rocks, then you have to figure out a way to inject water in the hot
rock area AND extract it in the form of *pressurized steam*. As I
understand it, this is the ONLY way there is any kilowatts produced
from geothermal.
Otherwise this is a complete waste of bandwidth.
David
Google for "hot dry rock geothermal"
you sink 3 wells close together in an impervious rock strata,
fracture the rock with dynamite, drop water down well #1, and recover
the steam at wells #2 and 3.
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10 Apr 2007 07:28:09 PM |
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bill wrote:
you sink 3 wells close together in an impervious rock strata,
fracture the rock with dynamite, drop
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water down well #1, and recover the steam at wells #2 and 3.
So what stops the steam coming back up well #1 ?
Graham
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10 Apr 2007 07:56:21 PM |
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Eeyore wrote:
bill wrote:
you sink 3 wells close together in an impervious rock strata,
fracture the rock with dynamite, drop
?????
water down well #1, and recover the steam at wells #2 and 3.
So what stops the steam coming back up well #1 ?
What keeps steam from coming back the water feed of a boiler?
And here, you have the advantage of the gravitational coulomb of the water.
Before I moved from Lake County they were already pumping water into the
steam wells called the geysers.
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10 Apr 2007 10:45:21 PM |
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We need a way of converting geothermal heat to electricity without
needing water. Maybe a semiconductor similar to photovoltaic cells.
Line a bore with thermalvoltaic cells.
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11 Apr 2007 12:25:02 AM |
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In sci.physics dexx <D3xx@hotmail.com> wrote:
We need a way of converting geothermal heat to electricity without
needing water. Maybe a semiconductor similar to photovoltaic cells.
Line a bore with thermalvoltaic cells.
We need Mr. Fusion so we get all our power from banana peels and
coffee grounds.
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11 Apr 2007 07:12:53 AM |
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In sci.physics dexx <D3xx@hotmail.com> wrote:
We need a way of converting geothermal heat to electricity without
needing water. Maybe a semiconductor similar to photovoltaic cells.
Line a bore with thermalvoltaic cells.
We need Mr. Fusion so we get all our power from banana peels and
coffee grounds.
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We already have that. It's called a methane digester. Search on gobar gas.
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11 Apr 2007 09:55:07 AM |
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In sci.physics Steve Spence <sspence@green-trust.org> wrote:
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In sci.physics dexx <D3xx@hotmail.com> wrote:
We need a way of converting geothermal heat to electricity without
needing water. Maybe a semiconductor similar to photovoltaic cells.
Line a bore with thermalvoltaic cells.
We need Mr. Fusion so we get all our power from banana peels and
coffee grounds.
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We already have that. It's called a methane digester. Search on gobar gas.
Will it power a DeLorean and the flux capacitor?
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11 Apr 2007 03:21:48 AM |
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wrote:
In sci.physics dexx <D3xx@hotmail.com> wrote:
We need a way of converting geothermal heat to electricity without
needing water. Maybe a semiconductor similar to photovoltaic cells.
Line a bore with thermalvoltaic cells.
We need Mr. Fusion so we get all our power from banana peels and
coffee grounds.
LOL ! I can see Greenpeace going for it right now.
Graham
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10 Apr 2007 11:28:30 PM |
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In sci.physics, dexx
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on 10 Apr 2007 20:45:21 -0700
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We need a way of converting geothermal heat to electricity without
needing water. Maybe a semiconductor similar to photovoltaic cells.
Line a bore with thermalvoltaic cells.
This is theoretically possible (Hall effect) but I have my doubts
as to its efficiency. Any such device would still need a heat sink.
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11 Apr 2007 03:20:48 AM |
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dexx wrote:
We need a way of converting geothermal heat to electricity without
needing water. Maybe a semiconductor similar to photovoltaic cells.
Line a bore with thermalvoltaic cells.
They're called thermocouples and are hopelessly inefficient.
Graham
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10 Apr 2007 07:45:02 PM |
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In sci.physics Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
bill wrote:
you sink 3 wells close together in an impervious rock strata,
fracture the rock with dynamite, drop
?????
water down well #1, and recover the steam at wells #2 and 3.
So what stops the steam coming back up well #1 ?
Graham
Ever heard of a valve?
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10 Apr 2007 01:10:22 PM |
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On Apr 10, 12:12 pm, "Dwib" <dwibd...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 10, 11:53 am, "PD" <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 9, 6:42 pm, (habshi) wrote:
Hard to believe but true according to a recent study ,
reported in this months Scientific American
Adrian Williams, the company's interim chief executive, said rock
temperatures range from 250 to 300 degrees, making the Cooper Basin
"arguably the most attractive place in the world for generating power
from hot rocks."
Mr Williams estimates the power-producing capacity may exceed 10,000
megawatts, in the order of 15 Snowy Hydro schemes.
He estimates geothermal power can be produced at about $45 per
megawatt-hour, equivalent to natural gas but without the carbon
emissions. (Electricity from brown and black coal costs about $35 per
MWh.)
While there are people working on this, there are of course issues:
- This only works in regions where geothermal heat is available close
to the processing plant. The fact that it is not viable in an
arbitrary location makes the technology inherently more expensive, as
it is a niche technology.
- Efficiency of energy conversion to useful work depends strongly on
temperature difference between hot and cold reservoirs. The hot
reservoir temperature of 250 to 300 degrees is pretty darned low,
which means that thermal efficiency will be low, which means that the
bulk of the heat that is sent through the system will be emitted as
heat. I'll betcha the power cost estimate above does not include
mitigating the effects of thermal pollution from so much heat
exhausted to the environment. I'll betcha that adds at least $10-$15
per mW-hr.
PD
Let's say we were able to sink a hole through the Earth's mantle and
into all that molten rock. Are there any current technologies to
convert that heat into electricity?
Dwib
Recent article in Wired magazine reviews efforts to do exactly that.
PD
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09 Apr 2007 07:11:07 PM |
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habshi wrote:
Hard to believe but true according to a recent study ,
reported in this months Scientific American
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Your rocks couldn't warm a declawed gerbil. Hey stoopid wog, do you
know the difference between the paper-recoverable heat content of a
thermal reservoir and its achievable thermal flux? A cubic mile of
solid rock at 300 C is worthless. Powdered coal burning in furnaces
powers the world. (Nice source of vanadium pentoxide too.)
If only the Brits had cleansed the subcontinent like curettage spoons
cleanse the uteri of rich Catholics' teenage daughters. If only the
industrial scale log chipper had been invented a little earlier in
time.
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2) Beta cannot be derived
1) GPS works.
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GPS RECEIVERS CAN BE BUILT BY ANYONE WITH
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Hey stooopid Androclitty, beta is a direct consequence of finite
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Hey fuckhead, how far is it from A to A and how long does it take to
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How many Uncles Stooopid does it take to change a light bulb?
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09 Apr 2007 08:49:43 PM |
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Dear Androcles,
We expect you to be more creative in your responce to UA. We are not
pleased. You are taking the simple Indian way out. Take sufficient time to
effectively research, study and kabitz your puztie on the subject, then post
your turd into the ROS.
REM: the ROS is a function of time, and it keeps flowing out of your monitor
onto your keyboard.
Thank you
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10 Apr 2007 12:06:31 PM |
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Dear Androcles,
We expect you to be more creative in your responce to UA. We are not
pleased. You are taking the simple Indian way out. Take sufficient time to
effectively research, study and kabitz your puztie on the subject, then
post your turd into the ROS.
REM: the ROS is a function of time, and it keeps flowing out of your
monitor onto your keyboard.
Thank you
Molly
i have not any hindu person with a name androcles. i think uncle al just
loves the hindus but is impatient the hindu inability to stop the takeover
of india by evergrowing poverty-ridden mohamadism which drives all the
hindus to leave india to foreign shores, leaving a more impoverished india.
soon we will have a predominant mohamadan india with all its hindu nukes and
missiles, and then we will have ww3. remember, you heard this expert
analysis not from pentagon whose job really it is, but here.
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10 Apr 2007 12:31:53 PM |
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harmony wrote:
i have not any hindu person with a name androcles. i think uncle al just
loves the hindus but is impatient the hindu inability to stop the takeover
of india by evergrowing poverty-ridden mohamadism which drives all the
hindus to leave india to foreign shores, leaving a more impoverished india.
soon we will have a predominant mohamadan india with all its hindu nukes and
missiles, and then we will have ww3. remember, you heard this expert
analysis not from pentagon whose job really it is, but here.
They've been saying the same kind of thing about various European countries for
ages too.
What percentage of Indians are Muslims ?
Graham
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10 Apr 2007 05:35:39 PM |
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harmony wrote:
i have not any hindu person with a name androcles. i think uncle al just
loves the hindus but is impatient the hindu inability to stop the
takeover
of india by evergrowing poverty-ridden mohamadism which drives all the
hindus to leave india to foreign shores, leaving a more impoverished
india.
soon we will have a predominant mohamadan india with all its hindu nukes
and
missiles, and then we will have ww3. remember, you heard this expert
analysis not from pentagon whose job really it is, but here.
They've been saying the same kind of thing about various European
countries for
ages too.
What percentage of Indians are Muslims ?
they have grown from 5 pct to 30 pct in 50 years. the growth is continuing
apace, and the pakis and bangladesh people kep pouring in as their political
clout gets stronger by the day.
the indian govt is too scared to publish accurate census results. it delayed
the census results for 4 long years after it was held. and then it fudged
the numbers. actually, the mohamadans are the single largest interest group
in india.
it is wrong perception that the west has of india as a hindu country. hindus
are not in power in india. its prime minister is a sikh guy, its president
is a mohamdan man, its speaker of the house is a commie guy, the leader of
the ruling party is a catholic woman. the billions of rubies donated at
hindu temples are swindled away by the govt. often the trustees apointed by
the govt on temple board are christians or commies or mohaamdans. hindu art
schools are presided over by christians apointed by govt. who has more
interest in destroying the art than encourage it. however, the mosques are
subsidized by govt. the mohamadans even receive money to go for hajj to
saudi arabia. the missionaories receive subsidy for their schools but hindus
are hastled to run hindu schools. most cabinet members are not even elected,
including the prime minister - and pres bush thinks india is the biggest
democrazy!!!!!!!!!!
the prime minister of india declared a few days back that mohamadans have
the first right to national resources!!!!!!!! wouldn't that include the
nukes and missiles? the hindus have no stomach to fight this, they rather
flee their country where they are the major taxpayers. recently the indian
commies and missionaries plotted to overthrown the nepal's hindu king after
a lot of bloodshed, and now commies are in power there. same fate awaits
india. in kashmir the hinids have already been driven out, same in several
other border states. and that makes uncle al mad and i do understand it.
Graham
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| User: "BioFreak" |
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| Title: Re: Enough energy in hot rocks for thousandfold increase in US energy needs |
10 Apr 2007 03:17:04 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:11:07 -0700, Uncle Al wrote:
If only the Brits had cleansed the subcontinent like curettage spoons
cleanse the uteri of rich Catholics' teenage daughters. If only the
industrial scale log chipper had been invented a little earlier in
time.
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/03/08/dylan08_narrowweb__300x360,0.jpg
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"zarre zarreh kandarin arzo samAst
jense khod rA hamcho kAho kahrobAst"
- Mowlana
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