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User: "CoreyWhite"
Date: 29 Mar 2007 09:14:41 AM
Object: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain
Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented the maglev trains
that race through europe, also worked a great deal with gyroscopes and
was able to prove that the physics of gyroscopes defy newtain's laws
about gravity.
I have one of his simple experiments at home. All you need is a
bicycle wheel on a stick, so you can get it spinning up fast. We
built ours out of metal, and fixed an attachment on the wheel, so we
could use a drill to get the wheel spinning really fast.
Once you get the wheel spinning you only have to spin round a central
point with the stick extended, and the paranormal effects of
gyroscopes on gravity begin to occur.
If you mirror the direction of the wheel, and spin yourself around
clockwise, when it spins counterclockwise, the wheel ways less, and
tries to stand itself straight up, like a gravity compass.
If you spin the same direction as the wheel is turning it does the
opposite, and weighs more (pointing itself downward).
Here is a video of Eric Laithwaite preforming the demonstration
himself at a public lecture before he died:
http://www.gyros.biz/lecture/wmv/12.wmv
I would recommend you save it to your computer. If you want to try
the demonstration, then I can send you out the same experiment that we
are making in our garage, very cheaply. An electric drill motor would
be suplied, but we can build the drill bits you need to attatch to our
wheel fixture and get the machine spinning at a high speed.
The other thing to note is that the faster you spin the wheel the
greater the effect, but also the faster the stick spins the wheel in
one direction or another adds even more to the anti-gravity.
No one has been able to find a workable model of physics to explain
this, or even really to find math that backs up why it happens. I
suppose that it is just like relativity, and time dialation. Except
it happens within the curvature of space and results in a gravity
dialation. And perhaps it is just that the actual mechanics of the
physics were never meant to happen in nature, unless we as humans
decided to run this experiment.
.

User: "Luke"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 11:17:45 PM
"CoreyWhite" <CoreyWhite@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175177681.785802.276990@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented the maglev trains
that race through europe, also worked a great deal with gyroscopes and
was able to prove that the physics of gyroscopes defy newtain's laws
about gravity.

I have one of his simple experiments at home. All you need is a
bicycle wheel on a stick, so you can get it spinning up fast. We
built ours out of metal, and fixed an attachment on the wheel, so we
could use a drill to get the wheel spinning really fast.

Once you get the wheel spinning you only have to spin round a central
point with the stick extended, and the paranormal effects of
gyroscopes on gravity begin to occur.

If you mirror the direction of the wheel, and spin yourself around
clockwise, when it spins counterclockwise, the wheel ways less, and
tries to stand itself straight up, like a gravity compass.

If you spin the same direction as the wheel is turning it does the
opposite, and weighs more (pointing itself downward).

Here is a video of Eric Laithwaite preforming the demonstration
himself at a public lecture before he died:
http://www.gyros.biz/lecture/wmv/12.wmv

I would recommend you save it to your computer. If you want to try
the demonstration, then I can send you out the same experiment that we
are making in our garage, very cheaply. An electric drill motor would
be suplied, but we can build the drill bits you need to attatch to our
wheel fixture and get the machine spinning at a high speed.

The other thing to note is that the faster you spin the wheel the
greater the effect, but also the faster the stick spins the wheel in
one direction or another adds even more to the anti-gravity.

No one has been able to find a workable model of physics to explain
this, or even really to find math that backs up why it happens. I
suppose that it is just like relativity, and time dialation. Except
it happens within the curvature of space and results in a gravity
dialation. And perhaps it is just that the actual mechanics of the
physics were never meant to happen in nature, unless we as humans
decided to run this experiment.

Isaac Newtain?
.

User: "T Wake"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 09:29:29 AM
"CoreyWhite" <CoreyWhite@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175177681.785802.276990@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented the maglev trains
that race through europe, also worked a great deal with gyroscopes and
was able to prove that the physics of gyroscopes defy newtain's laws
about gravity.

Who is this "Newtain" and where can I read about his laws of gravity?
.

User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 01:40:45 PM
CoreyWhite wrote:
[snip crap]

Once you get the wheel spinning you only have to spin round a central
point with the stick extended, and the paranormal effects of
gyroscopes on gravity begin to occur.

1) http://prola.aps.org/abstract/PRD/v66/i2/e022002
2) Idiot
3) http://prola.aps.org/abstract/PRD/v65/i4/e042005
4) Idiot
5) http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0006075
6) Idiot.
7) Mythbusters (Season 4), Epsode 68, "Anti-Gravity Device" BUSTED
8) Idiot
9) Gravity Probe B with two pairs of anti-parallel superconducting
spinning gyroballs
10) Idiot
11) http://www.oakland.edu/physics/mog29/mog29.pdf
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0609417
Equatorial velocity of 20% lightspeed. Orbits to GR specs to at least
0.05%
12) Idiot.

The other thing to note is that the faster you spin the wheel the
greater the effect, but also the faster the stick spins the wheel in
one direction or another adds even more to the anti-gravity.

Empirical idiot.

[snip rest of crap]
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
.

User: "dlzc"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 09:58:16 AM
Dear CoreyWhite:
On Mar 29, 7:14 am, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:
....

Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented
the maglev trains that race through europe, also
worked a great deal with gyroscopes and was able
to prove that the physics of gyroscopes defy
newtain's laws about gravity.

No, they don't. They weigh the same before spinning as they do whiel
spinning. Remove all support and they crash to the ground.
David A. Smith
.
User: "Ben Newsam"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 03:57:17 PM
On 29 Mar 2007 07:58:16 -0700, "dlzc" <dlzc1@cox.net> wrote:

Dear CoreyWhite:

On Mar 29, 7:14 am, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:
...

Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented
the maglev trains that race through europe, also
worked a great deal with gyroscopes and was able
to prove that the physics of gyroscopes defy
newtain's laws about gravity.


No, they don't. They weigh the same before spinning as they do whiel
spinning. Remove all support and they crash to the ground.

Indeed. I don't think Eric Laithwaite really believed his
"anti-gravity" devices really worked. They certainly didn't convince
many people who saw them in operation, anyway. I think that his reason
for showing them to people was to try to get them to think about what
was really going on. It isn't intuitive at all; for instance, if you
place someone holding a spinning disk on a rotating table and then
manually stop the precession, their arms will rise up holding the
heavy disk. That person will be quite willing to believe that
anti-gravity is involved.
.


User: "Nevermore"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 11:05:12 AM
In <1175177681.785802.276990@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> CoreyWhite
wrote:

From: "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWhite@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.magick,alt.religion.wicca,alt.native,sci.physics,sci.
physics.relativity Subject: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain Date: 29
Mar 2007 07:14:41 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com

Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented the maglev trains
that race through europe

Umm, Corey buddy, could you please tell me where in Europe you've been
racing thru on a Maglev?
Last time I looked the TGV, AEV, ICE, EuroStar, etc. all still had their
wheels firmly on the rails.
Nevermore (Maglev not war)
.

User: "Douglas Eagleson"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 02:06:07 PM
On Mar 29, 10:14 am, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented the maglev trains
that race through europe, also worked a great deal with gyroscopes and
was able to prove that the physics of gyroscopes defy newtain's laws
about gravity.

I have one of his simple experiments at home. All you need is a
bicycle wheel on a stick, so you can get it spinning up fast. We
built ours out of metal, and fixed an attachment on the wheel, so we
could use a drill to get the wheel spinning really fast.

Once you get the wheel spinning you only have to spin round a central
point with the stick extended, and the paranormal effects of
gyroscopes on gravity begin to occur.

If you mirror the direction of the wheel, and spin yourself around
clockwise, when it spins counterclockwise, the wheel ways less, and
tries to stand itself straight up, like a gravity compass.

If you spin the same direction as the wheel is turning it does the
opposite, and weighs more (pointing itself downward).

Here is a video of Eric Laithwaite preforming the demonstration
himself at a public lecture before he died:http://www.gyros.biz/lecture/wmv/12.wmv

I would recommend you save it to your computer. If you want to try
the demonstration, then I can send you out the same experiment that we
are making in our garage, very cheaply. An electric drill motor would
be suplied, but we can build the drill bits you need to attatch to our
wheel fixture and get the machine spinning at a high speed.

The other thing to note is that the faster you spin the wheel the
greater the effect, but also the faster the stick spins the wheel in
one direction or another adds even more to the anti-gravity.

No one has been able to find a workable model of physics to explain
this, or even really to find math that backs up why it happens. I
suppose that it is just like relativity, and time dialation. Except
it happens within the curvature of space and results in a gravity
dialation. And perhaps it is just that the actual mechanics of the
physics were never meant to happen in nature, unless we as humans
decided to run this experiment.

A gyroscope to weigh less than normal is an esoteric effect.
Hardly recognized as existing by conventional scientists.
A symmetry effect was all I could use to state this effect. A spin
relative to earth's in special geometric state caused the force.
.

User: "CoreyWhite"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 11:54:04 AM
On Mar 29, 12:10 pm, "boson boss" <junker...@gmail.com> wrote:

I've seen all the movies. Laithwaite is remarkable. I congratulate the
full success. But also I think I see more to it, so if it sounds like
he is wrong its strictly due to grammar. The moment at which I started
observing the additional observation aside from his is about the first
quarter or third when he stops a spinning "arm" with a golden gyro
suspended on one end. He says that he grabbed it without receiving any
energy from it as he gave it none. I see that as an error in
observations. Further on all the points he makes are true, including
the loss of weight. ...And all together several open topics are
branching off there. So I'll start from just that one point of mine
and expand it to a hypothesis. I think that he is not observing well
his own observations, or nature of perception. He goes straight
through or over those parts that deal with interaction and measurable
energy. It sort of feels like wrong touch in his hands, maybe later
his mind. Then, it looks more like standalone, magic, which is good
but knowing both is the golden part about paradox. You see those arms
- mechanical ones, and arms of little boy, holding the gyros are real
and they are active. In school they say that mechanics is when stuff
moves like buses. But within those arms are vibrations and who knows
what else with interaction. So what we are seeing there are dynamical
phenomena and not at all "classical newton". The common mind believes
that there is an equation awaiting description. But in fact the
dynamics emerges like a force making Laithwaite true in return.

There is another interesting experiment that I wish to share with you
as well.
It is called an "Electret". Electret's are the same as permanent
magnet's but they are electrical.
To make one all you need is a thin piece of plastic, like from a un-
opened CD.
Then you clean off your old television set, because the static
electricity sucks up a lot of dust. Once it is clean, and you have
turned it off. You place the plastic on the screen and turn the TV on
for no more than about 5 seconds. Then you turn the TV off & you move
the plastic onto a window. Once you stick the plastic on to a window
it becomes a permanent *Electret*.
If you take a small piece of paper and stick it onto to the Electret,
the paper will stick to the Electret. This is not because of static
electricity, but because the plastic has been charged the same way
magnets are magnatized, just with electricity.
If you repeat this test 1,000 times or so, turning the TV on for 5
seconds, and off again, and you keep the rhythm correct and constant,
you can charge up a super powerful Electret. Or if you have another
source of electricity other than the television tube screen, you will
get super power if the source is strong enough.
My friend was able to suspend a can of tuna fish off of an electret
that was stuck to the cieling with some string and tape. And he even
charged an electret up so it would power the CMOS memory of a personal
computer. Cool huh?
.

User: "Ditto"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 12:51:14 PM
On Mar 29, 3:14 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented the maglev trains
that race through europe, also worked a great deal with gyroscopes and
was able to prove that the physics of gyroscopes defy newtain's laws
about gravity.

He didn't understand how gyroscopes worked at the time, even though
the theory had been worked out 300 years previously by Euler. He
admits this towards the end of the the program "Heretic" which can be
seen in this link:
http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp

I have one of his simple experiments at home. All you need is a
bicycle wheel on a stick, so you can get it spinning up fast. We
built ours out of metal, and fixed an attachment on the wheel, so we
could use a drill to get the wheel spinning really fast.

Once you get the wheel spinning you only have to spin round a central
point with the stick extended, and the paranormal effects of
gyroscopes on gravity begin to occur.

If you mirror the direction of the wheel, and spin yourself around
clockwise, when it spins counterclockwise, the wheel ways less, and
tries to stand itself straight up, like a gravity compass.

If you spin the same direction as the wheel is turning it does the
opposite, and weighs more (pointing itself downward).

Here is a video of Eric Laithwaite preforming the demonstration
himself at a public lecture before he died:http://www.gyros.biz/lecture/wmv/12.wmv

I would recommend you save it to your computer. If you want to try
the demonstration, then I can send you out the same experiment that we
are making in our garage, very cheaply. An electric drill motor would
be suplied, but we can build the drill bits you need to attatch to our
wheel fixture and get the machine spinning at a high speed.

The other thing to note is that the faster you spin the wheel the
greater the effect, but also the faster the stick spins the wheel in
one direction or another adds even more to the anti-gravity.

No one has been able to find a workable model of physics to explain
this, or even really to find math that backs up why it happens. I
suppose that it is just like relativity, and time dialation. Except
it happens within the curvature of space and results in a gravity
dialation. And perhaps it is just that the actual mechanics of the
physics were never meant to happen in nature, unless we as humans
decided to run this experiment.

Does T = dL/dt mean anything to you?
.
User: "CoreyWhite"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 01:09:01 PM
On Mar 29, 1:51 pm, "Ditto" <jmc8...@softhome.net> wrote:

On Mar 29, 3:14 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented the maglev trains
that race through europe, also worked a great deal with gyroscopes and
was able to prove that the physics of gyroscopes defy newtain's laws
about gravity.


He didn't understand how gyroscopes worked at the time, even though
the theory had been worked out 300 years previously by Euler. He
admits this towards the end of the the program "Heretic" which can be
seen in this link:

http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp



I have one of his simple experiments at home. All you need is a
bicycle wheel on a stick, so you can get it spinning up fast. We
built ours out of metal, and fixed an attachment on the wheel, so we
could use a drill to get the wheel spinning really fast.


Once you get the wheel spinning you only have to spin round a central
point with the stick extended, and the paranormal effects of
gyroscopes on gravity begin to occur.


If you mirror the direction of the wheel, and spin yourself around
clockwise, when it spins counterclockwise, the wheel ways less, and
tries to stand itself straight up, like a gravity compass.


If you spin the same direction as the wheel is turning it does the
opposite, and weighs more (pointing itself downward).


Here is a video of Eric Laithwaite preforming the demonstration
himself at a public lecture before he died:http://www.gyros.biz/lecture/wmv/12.wmv


I would recommend you save it to your computer. If you want to try
the demonstration, then I can send you out the same experiment that we
are making in our garage, very cheaply. An electric drill motor would
be suplied, but we can build the drill bits you need to attatch to our
wheel fixture and get the machine spinning at a high speed.


The other thing to note is that the faster you spin the wheel the
greater the effect, but also the faster the stick spins the wheel in
one direction or another adds even more to the anti-gravity.


No one has been able to find a workable model of physics to explain
this, or even really to find math that backs up why it happens. I
suppose that it is just like relativity, and time dialation. Except
it happens within the curvature of space and results in a gravity
dialation. And perhaps it is just that the actual mechanics of the
physics were never meant to happen in nature, unless we as humans
decided to run this experiment.


Does T = dL/dt mean anything to you?

No one understands how gyroscopes work. He was, before he died one of
the foremost researchers into gyroscope physics. When was the last
time anyone ever took a class about gyroscopes in college or high
school physics? I haven't heard of such a thing. I'm sure you
haven't. Your googling turns up very little, because you are just
misinterpreting the facts. It was someone else who showed him the
first gyroscope experiments, before he had much knowledge about what
was happening. He used his fame as a scientists and engineer to get
the word out about what was going on, and research gyroscopes
further. He did a good job of it too. He points out in his lectures
that there are many other things like this which happen in
engineering, and can't be easily explained with newtains laws. But he
doesn't offer any direct theories as to why anti-gravity can manifest
through gyroscopes. And no one else knows either.
.
User: "T Wake"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 30 Mar 2007 11:40:18 AM
"CoreyWhite" <CoreyWhite@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175191741.194387.97380@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

No one understands how gyroscopes work.

Wow.
How did you come to this conclusion?
(froups snecked)
.

User: "Randy Poe"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 01:40:14 PM
On Mar 29, 2:09 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mar 29, 1:51 pm, "Ditto" <jmc8...@softhome.net> wrote:



On Mar 29, 3:14 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:


Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented the maglev trains
that race through europe, also worked a great deal with gyroscopes and
was able to prove that the physics of gyroscopes defy newtain's laws
about gravity.


He didn't understand how gyroscopes worked at the time, even though
the theory had been worked out 300 years previously by Euler. He
admits this towards the end of the the program "Heretic" which can be
seen in this link:


http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp


I have one of his simple experiments at home. All you need is a
bicycle wheel on a stick, so you can get it spinning up fast. We
built ours out of metal, and fixed an attachment on the wheel, so we
could use a drill to get the wheel spinning really fast.


Once you get the wheel spinning you only have to spin round a central
point with the stick extended, and the paranormal effects of
gyroscopes on gravity begin to occur.


If you mirror the direction of the wheel, and spin yourself around
clockwise, when it spins counterclockwise, the wheel ways less, and
tries to stand itself straight up, like a gravity compass.


If you spin the same direction as the wheel is turning it does the
opposite, and weighs more (pointing itself downward).


Here is a video of Eric Laithwaite preforming the demonstration
himself at a public lecture before he died:http://www.gyros.biz/lecture/wmv/12.wmv


I would recommend you save it to your computer. If you want to try
the demonstration, then I can send you out the same experiment that we
are making in our garage, very cheaply. An electric drill motor would
be suplied, but we can build the drill bits you need to attatch to our
wheel fixture and get the machine spinning at a high speed.


The other thing to note is that the faster you spin the wheel the
greater the effect, but also the faster the stick spins the wheel in
one direction or another adds even more to the anti-gravity.


No one has been able to find a workable model of physics to explain
this, or even really to find math that backs up why it happens. I
suppose that it is just like relativity, and time dialation. Except
it happens within the curvature of space and results in a gravity
dialation. And perhaps it is just that the actual mechanics of the
physics were never meant to happen in nature, unless we as humans
decided to run this experiment.


Does T = dL/dt mean anything to you?


No one understands how gyroscopes work.

Anybody who has successfully passed a reasonably good
introductory physics course understands how gyroscopes work.

He was, before he died one of
the foremost researchers into gyroscope physics.

You mean he was a guy who never took a physics course
who devoted a ridiculous amount of time to trying to come
up with crackpot theories about gyroscopes?

When was the last
time anyone ever took a class about gyroscopes in college or high
school physics?

It's not worth an entire class. It's covered in the weeks during
which you study rotating systems, torque, angular momentum,
etc, which are only one small part of the standard introductory
physics curriculum.
- Randy
.
User: "CoreyWhite"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 01:48:24 PM
On Mar 29, 2:40 pm, "Randy Poe" <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Mar 29, 2:09 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Mar 29, 1:51 pm, "Ditto" <jmc8...@softhome.net> wrote:


On Mar 29, 3:14 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:


Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented the maglev trains
that race through europe, also worked a great deal with gyroscopes and
was able to prove that the physics of gyroscopes defy newtain's laws
about gravity.


He didn't understand how gyroscopes worked at the time, even though
the theory had been worked out 300 years previously by Euler. He
admits this towards the end of the the program "Heretic" which can be
seen in this link:


http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp


I have one of his simple experiments at home. All you need is a
bicycle wheel on a stick, so you can get it spinning up fast. We
built ours out of metal, and fixed an attachment on the wheel, so we
could use a drill to get the wheel spinning really fast.


Once you get the wheel spinning you only have to spin round a central
point with the stick extended, and the paranormal effects of
gyroscopes on gravity begin to occur.


If you mirror the direction of the wheel, and spin yourself around
clockwise, when it spins counterclockwise, the wheel ways less, and
tries to stand itself straight up, like a gravity compass.


If you spin the same direction as the wheel is turning it does the
opposite, and weighs more (pointing itself downward).


Here is a video of Eric Laithwaite preforming the demonstration
himself at a public lecture before he died:http://www.gyros.biz/lecture/wmv/12.wmv


I would recommend you save it to your computer. If you want to try
the demonstration, then I can send you out the same experiment that we
are making in our garage, very cheaply. An electric drill motor would
be suplied, but we can build the drill bits you need to attatch to our
wheel fixture and get the machine spinning at a high speed.


The other thing to note is that the faster you spin the wheel the
greater the effect, but also the faster the stick spins the wheel in
one direction or another adds even more to the anti-gravity.


No one has been able to find a workable model of physics to explain
this, or even really to find math that backs up why it happens. I
suppose that it is just like relativity, and time dialation. Except
it happens within the curvature of space and results in a gravity
dialation. And perhaps it is just that the actual mechanics of the
physics were never meant to happen in nature, unless we as humans
decided to run this experiment.


Does T = dL/dt mean anything to you?


No one understands how gyroscopes work.


Anybody who has successfully passed a reasonably good
introductory physics course understands how gyroscopes work.

He was, before he died one of
the foremost researchers into gyroscope physics.


You mean he was a guy who never took a physics course
who devoted a ridiculous amount of time to trying to come
up with crackpot theories about gyroscopes?

When was the last
time anyone ever took a class about gyroscopes in college or high
school physics?


It's not worth an entire class. It's covered in the weeks during
which you study rotating systems, torque, angular momentum,
etc, which are only one small part of the standard introductory
physics curriculum.

- Randy

I have 3 physics books entirely about gyroscopes. It isn't simple
stuff. For example how many applications for gyroscopes can you think
of?
.
User: "Phineas T Puddleduck"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 01:57:37 PM
On 29/3/07 19:48, in article
1175194104.656729.88460@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com, "CoreyWhite"
<CoreyWhite@gmail.com> wrote:

It's not worth an entire class. It's covered in the weeks during
which you study rotating systems, torque, angular momentum,
etc, which are only one small part of the standard introductory
physics curriculum.

- Randy


I have 3 physics books entirely about gyroscopes. It isn't simple
stuff. For example how many applications for gyroscopes can you think
of?

MS Word for Gyroscopes?
--
Painius admits he cannot answer a single question to NB:
"Yes, you're right of course, NB. And they get very useless very quickly.
I shall do my best to ignore them, as you wish."
.
User: "T Wake"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 30 Mar 2007 11:41:32 AM
"Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddleduck@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C231CAB1.BD4A%phineaspuddleduck@gmail.com...

On 29/3/07 19:48, in article
1175194104.656729.88460@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com, "CoreyWhite"
<CoreyWhite@gmail.com> wrote:

It's not worth an entire class. It's covered in the weeks during
which you study rotating systems, torque, angular momentum,
etc, which are only one small part of the standard introductory
physics curriculum.

- Randy


I have 3 physics books entirely about gyroscopes. It isn't simple
stuff. For example how many applications for gyroscopes can you think
of?


MS Word for Gyroscopes?

LOL. I was going to say that... :-)
[FUPS set]
.

User: "CoreyWhite"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 02:04:12 PM
On Mar 29, 2:57 pm, Phineas T Puddleduck <phineaspuddled...@gmail.com>
wrote:

On 29/3/07 19:48, in article
1175194104.656729.88...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com, "CoreyWhite"

<CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:

It's not worth an entire class. It's covered in the weeks during
which you study rotating systems, torque, angular momentum,
etc, which are only one small part of the standard introductory
physics curriculum.


- Randy


I have 3 physics books entirely about gyroscopes. It isn't simple
stuff. For example how many applications for gyroscopes can you think
of?


MS Word for Gyroscopes?

--
Painius admits he cannot answer a single question to NB:

"Yes, you're right of course, NB. And they get very useless very quickly.
I shall do my best to ignore them, as you wish."

You mean you haven't googled the wikipedia page & read about the
nuclear bomb guidance system?
.
User: "Phineas T Puddleduck"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 02:07:51 PM
On 29/3/07 20:04, in article
1175195052.757296.143650@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, "CoreyWhite"
<CoreyWhite@gmail.com> wrote:

You mean you haven't googled the wikipedia page & read about the
nuclear bomb guidance system?

Perhaps wiki "sarcasm" first?
--
Painius admits he cannot answer a single question to NB:
"Yes, you're right of course, NB. And they get very useless very quickly.
I shall do my best to ignore them, as you wish."
.



User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 03:03:34 PM
On Mar 29, 10:48 am, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]

I have 3 physics books entirely about gyroscopes. It isn't simple
stuff. For example how many applications for gyroscopes can you think
of?

Your inability to understand does not change the truth of what Randy
said.
.

User: "Randy Poe"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 02:12:22 PM
On Mar 29, 2:48 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mar 29, 2:40 pm, "Randy Poe" <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote:



On Mar 29, 2:09 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mar 29, 1:51 pm, "Ditto" <jmc8...@softhome.net> wrote:


On Mar 29, 3:14 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:


Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented the maglev trains
that race through europe, also worked a great deal with gyroscopes and
was able to prove that the physics of gyroscopes defy newtain's laws
about gravity.


He didn't understand how gyroscopes worked at the time, even though
the theory had been worked out 300 years previously by Euler. He
admits this towards the end of the the program "Heretic" which can be
seen in this link:


http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp


I have one of his simple experiments at home. All you need is a
bicycle wheel on a stick, so you can get it spinning up fast. We
built ours out of metal, and fixed an attachment on the wheel, so we
could use a drill to get the wheel spinning really fast.


Once you get the wheel spinning you only have to spin round a central
point with the stick extended, and the paranormal effects of
gyroscopes on gravity begin to occur.


If you mirror the direction of the wheel, and spin yourself around
clockwise, when it spins counterclockwise, the wheel ways less, and
tries to stand itself straight up, like a gravity compass.


If you spin the same direction as the wheel is turning it does the
opposite, and weighs more (pointing itself downward).


Here is a video of Eric Laithwaite preforming the demonstration
himself at a public lecture before he died:http://www.gyros.biz/lecture/wmv/12.wmv


I would recommend you save it to your computer. If you want to try
the demonstration, then I can send you out the same experiment that we
are making in our garage, very cheaply. An electric drill motor would
be suplied, but we can build the drill bits you need to attatch to our
wheel fixture and get the machine spinning at a high speed.


The other thing to note is that the faster you spin the wheel the
greater the effect, but also the faster the stick spins the wheel in
one direction or another adds even more to the anti-gravity.


No one has been able to find a workable model of physics to explain
this, or even really to find math that backs up why it happens. I
suppose that it is just like relativity, and time dialation. Except
it happens within the curvature of space and results in a gravity
dialation. And perhaps it is just that the actual mechanics of the
physics were never meant to happen in nature, unless we as humans
decided to run this experiment.


Does T = dL/dt mean anything to you?


No one understands how gyroscopes work.


Anybody who has successfully passed a reasonably good
introductory physics course understands how gyroscopes work.


He was, before he died one of
the foremost researchers into gyroscope physics.


You mean he was a guy who never took a physics course
who devoted a ridiculous amount of time to trying to come
up with crackpot theories about gyroscopes?


When was the last
time anyone ever took a class about gyroscopes in college or high
school physics?


It's not worth an entire class. It's covered in the weeks during
which you study rotating systems, torque, angular momentum,
etc, which are only one small part of the standard introductory
physics curriculum.


- Randy


I have 3 physics books entirely about gyroscopes.

But since no human being has ever understood the theory of
gyroscopes or taken a course on them, I guess those
books just say over and over "nobody knows this stuff,
nothing to say here, nobody knows this stuff, nothing
to say here..."

It isn't simple stuff.

Yeah, it's simple stuff. Or rather, the theory of the simple
mechanical gyroscope you have been talking about,
is simple stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyroscope
There's a one line equation in the middle of that page. That's
the theory of the gyroscope.
Your "three books" no doubt go into the modern exotic
variants such as laser gyros, with the simple theory I'm talking
about somewhere in Chapter 1.

For example how many applications for gyroscopes can you think
of?

"Applications for gyroscopes" is not "theory of gyroscopes",
is it? The main application I know of is in inertial navigation,
especially in aircraft. A gyro can measure changes in angle
in all three axes (roll, pitch, yaw), all of which are constantly
changing. You've got to have accurate measurements of that
if you want any hope to be able to do GPS-independent
navigation.
So which is it, "nobody knows the theory of gyroscopes"
or "I have three books with the theory of gyroscopes" or
"I have three books about gyroscopes, which includes
a chapter on theory" or something else?
- Randy
.



User: "Ditto"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 06:45:30 PM
On Mar 29, 7:09 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mar 29, 1:51 pm, "Ditto" <jmc8...@softhome.net> wrote:





On Mar 29, 3:14 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:


Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented the maglev trains
that race through europe, also worked a great deal with gyroscopes and
was able to prove that the physics of gyroscopes defy newtain's laws
about gravity.


He didn't understand how gyroscopes worked at the time, even though
the theory had been worked out 300 years previously by Euler. He
admits this towards the end of the the program "Heretic" which can be
seen in this link:


http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp


I have one of his simple experiments at home. All you need is a
bicycle wheel on a stick, so you can get it spinning up fast. We
built ours out of metal, and fixed an attachment on the wheel, so we
could use a drill to get the wheel spinning really fast.


Once you get the wheel spinning you only have to spin round a central
point with the stick extended, and the paranormal effects of
gyroscopes on gravity begin to occur.


If you mirror the direction of the wheel, and spin yourself around
clockwise, when it spins counterclockwise, the wheel ways less, and
tries to stand itself straight up, like a gravity compass.


If you spin the same direction as the wheel is turning it does the
opposite, and weighs more (pointing itself downward).


Here is a video of Eric Laithwaite preforming the demonstration
himself at a public lecture before he died:http://www.gyros.biz/lecture/wmv/12.wmv


I would recommend you save it to your computer. If you want to try
the demonstration, then I can send you out the same experiment that we
are making in our garage, very cheaply. An electric drill motor would
be suplied, but we can build the drill bits you need to attatch to our
wheel fixture and get the machine spinning at a high speed.


The other thing to note is that the faster you spin the wheel the
greater the effect, but also the faster the stick spins the wheel in
one direction or another adds even more to the anti-gravity.


No one has been able to find a workable model of physics to explain
this, or even really to find math that backs up why it happens. I
suppose that it is just like relativity, and time dialation. Except
it happens within the curvature of space and results in a gravity
dialation. And perhaps it is just that the actual mechanics of the
physics were never meant to happen in nature, unless we as humans
decided to run this experiment.


Does T = dL/dt mean anything to you?


No one understands how gyroscopes work.
He was, before he died one of
the foremost researchers into gyroscope physics. When was the last
time anyone ever took a class about gyroscopes in college or high
school physics? I haven't heard of such a thing. I'm sure you
haven't. Your googling turns up very little, because you are just
misinterpreting the facts. It was someone else who showed him the
first gyroscope experiments, before he had much knowledge about what
was happening. He used his fame as a scientists and engineer to get
the word out about what was going on, and research gyroscopes
further. He did a good job of it too. He points out in his lectures
that there are many other things like this which happen in
engineering, and can't be easily explained with newtains laws. But he
doesn't offer any direct theories as to why anti-gravity can manifest
through gyroscopes. And no one else knows either.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just watch the video in the link I gave you at the following times:
Between 19:00 and 20:00 the program explains that Prof Laithwaite was
brought up to speed in the theory of the gyroscope. There is even a
black board with Euler's equations on it.
Between 23:35 and 23:45 Prof Laithwaite says "I could now explain the
unexplainable - gyroscopes behave absolutely according to Newton's
laws of motion. We were not now challenging any sacred laws...".
.
User: "CoreyWhite"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 29 Mar 2007 09:00:22 PM
On Mar 29, 7:45 pm, "Ditto" <jmc8...@softhome.net> wrote:

On Mar 29, 7:09 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Mar 29, 1:51 pm, "Ditto" <jmc8...@softhome.net> wrote:


On Mar 29, 3:14 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:


Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented the maglev trains
that race through europe, also worked a great deal with gyroscopes and
was able to prove that the physics of gyroscopes defy newtain's laws
about gravity.


He didn't understand how gyroscopes worked at the time, even though
the theory had been worked out 300 years previously by Euler. He
admits this towards the end of the the program "Heretic" which can be
seen in this link:


http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp


I have one of his simple experiments at home. All you need is a
bicycle wheel on a stick, so you can get it spinning up fast. We
built ours out of metal, and fixed an attachment on the wheel, so we
could use a drill to get the wheel spinning really fast.


Once you get the wheel spinning you only have to spin round a central
point with the stick extended, and the paranormal effects of
gyroscopes on gravity begin to occur.


If you mirror the direction of the wheel, and spin yourself around
clockwise, when it spins counterclockwise, the wheel ways less, and
tries to stand itself straight up, like a gravity compass.


If you spin the same direction as the wheel is turning it does the
opposite, and weighs more (pointing itself downward).


Here is a video of Eric Laithwaite preforming the demonstration
himself at a public lecture before he died:http://www.gyros.biz/lecture/wmv/12.wmv


I would recommend you save it to your computer. If you want to try
the demonstration, then I can send you out the same experiment that we
are making in our garage, very cheaply. An electric drill motor would
be suplied, but we can build the drill bits you need to attatch to our
wheel fixture and get the machine spinning at a high speed.


The other thing to note is that the faster you spin the wheel the
greater the effect, but also the faster the stick spins the wheel in
one direction or another adds even more to the anti-gravity.


No one has been able to find a workable model of physics to explain
this, or even really to find math that backs up why it happens. I
suppose that it is just like relativity, and time dialation. Except
it happens within the curvature of space and results in a gravity
dialation. And perhaps it is just that the actual mechanics of the
physics were never meant to happen in nature, unless we as humans
decided to run this experiment.


Does T = dL/dt mean anything to you?


No one understands how gyroscopes work.
He was, before he died one of
the foremost researchers into gyroscope physics. When was the last
time anyone ever took a class about gyroscopes in college or high
school physics? I haven't heard of such a thing. I'm sure you
haven't. Your googling turns up very little, because you are just
misinterpreting the facts. It was someone else who showed him the
first gyroscope experiments, before he had much knowledge about what
was happening. He used his fame as a scientists and engineer to get
the word out about what was going on, and research gyroscopes
further. He did a good job of it too. He points out in his lectures
that there are many other things like this which happen in
engineering, and can't be easily explained with newtains laws. But he
doesn't offer any direct theories as to why anti-gravity can manifest
through gyroscopes. And no one else knows either.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Just watch the video in the link I gave you at the following times:

Between 19:00 and 20:00 the program explains that Prof Laithwaite was
brought up to speed in the theory of the gyroscope. There is even a
black board with Euler's equations on it.

Between 23:35 and 23:45 Prof Laithwaite says "I could now explain the
unexplainable - gyroscopes behave absolutely according to Newton's
laws of motion. We were not now challenging any sacred laws...".

The chinese invented gryroscopes a long time ago but it wasn't until
relativly recently that we began to use them in technology. The first
use was just to study & to understand them. They had an unusual
property of rigidity in space, which meant that once they were freely
rotating, they would remain fixed about their axises even as the earth
spun seperately. This allowed people to use gyroscopes to tell time.
Then after this it was discovered gyroscopes could be used as a
compass, when mercury was fixed into their 360 degrees of free
rotation. This caused the gyrosvope to obey more convienient laws and
measure the direction of the earth in ways not thought possible
before. The Navy still uses gyrosvopes to do this today, and since
they have discovered how to use Eric Laithwaites force aboard navy
ships with 50 ton gyrosvopes to keep ships balanced. No one
understands how this force operates yet, but we know it works. The
navy measures the rock and tilt of the ship with one gyroscope, and
adjusts the precission of the 50 ton gyroscope to counter the ships
ballance, as an inertia drive. The precission of a gyroscop is the
axis of rotation that the spinning disk spins around, just the same as
Eric Laithwaite's experiments. And the knowledge goes on. The
airforce uses gyroscopes to help planes navigate and prevent pilots
from getting vertigo. Rocket's use gyroscopes, and the space shuttle
already uses gyroscopes as part of their automatic propullsion system
in case the space shuttle isn't blasting off exactly on course.
But Laithwaite's life work was using the idea of the Navy's Inertia
Drive that balances their ships out on rough waters, to actually be
used as a propullsion system for satelites in space. That's really
cool isn't it? I don't think it is easy to discount this kind of
science, even though we have known about it for 100 years or so. Eric
Laithwaites fallacy was just not being aboard a navy ship with a 50
ton gyroscope that was already making use of his invention.
.
User: "Randy Poe"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 30 Mar 2007 05:51:41 AM
On Mar 29, 10:00 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mar 29, 7:45 pm, "Ditto" <jmc8...@softhome.net> wrote:



On Mar 29, 7:09 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mar 29, 1:51 pm, "Ditto" <jmc8...@softhome.net> wrote:


On Mar 29, 3:14 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:


Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented the maglev trains
that race through europe, also worked a great deal with gyroscopes and
was able to prove that the physics of gyroscopes defy newtain's laws
about gravity.


He didn't understand how gyroscopes worked at the time, even though
the theory had been worked out 300 years previously by Euler. He
admits this towards the end of the the program "Heretic" which can be
seen in this link:


http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp


I have one of his simple experiments at home. All you need is a
bicycle wheel on a stick, so you can get it spinning up fast. We
built ours out of metal, and fixed an attachment on the wheel, so we
could use a drill to get the wheel spinning really fast.


Once you get the wheel spinning you only have to spin round a central
point with the stick extended, and the paranormal effects of
gyroscopes on gravity begin to occur.


If you mirror the direction of the wheel, and spin yourself around
clockwise, when it spins counterclockwise, the wheel ways less, and
tries to stand itself straight up, like a gravity compass.


If you spin the same direction as the wheel is turning it does the
opposite, and weighs more (pointing itself downward).


Here is a video of Eric Laithwaite preforming the demonstration
himself at a public lecture before he died:http://www.gyros.biz/lecture/wmv/12.wmv


I would recommend you save it to your computer. If you want to try
the demonstration, then I can send you out the same experiment that we
are making in our garage, very cheaply. An electric drill motor would
be suplied, but we can build the drill bits you need to attatch to our
wheel fixture and get the machine spinning at a high speed.


The other thing to note is that the faster you spin the wheel the
greater the effect, but also the faster the stick spins the wheel in
one direction or another adds even more to the anti-gravity.


No one has been able to find a workable model of physics to explain
this, or even really to find math that backs up why it happens. I
suppose that it is just like relativity, and time dialation. Except
it happens within the curvature of space and results in a gravity
dialation. And perhaps it is just that the actual mechanics of the
physics were never meant to happen in nature, unless we as humans
decided to run this experiment.


Does T = dL/dt mean anything to you?


No one understands how gyroscopes work.
He was, before he died one of
the foremost researchers into gyroscope physics. When was the last
time anyone ever took a class about gyroscopes in college or high
school physics? I haven't heard of such a thing. I'm sure you
haven't. Your googling turns up very little, because you are just
misinterpreting the facts. It was someone else who showed him the
first gyroscope experiments, before he had much knowledge about what
was happening. He used his fame as a scientists and engineer to get
the word out about what was going on, and research gyroscopes
further. He did a good job of it too. He points out in his lectures
that there are many other things like this which happen in
engineering, and can't be easily explained with newtains laws. But he
doesn't offer any direct theories as to why anti-gravity can manifest
through gyroscopes. And no one else knows either.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Just watch the video in the link I gave you at the following times:


Between 19:00 and 20:00 the program explains that Prof Laithwaite was
brought up to speed in the theory of the gyroscope. There is even a
black board with Euler's equations on it.


Between 23:35 and 23:45 Prof Laithwaite says "I could now explain the
unexplainable - gyroscopes behave absolutely according to Newton's
laws of motion. We were not now challenging any sacred laws...".


The chinese invented gryroscopes a long time ago but it wasn't until
relativly recently that we began to use them in technology. The first
use was just to study & to understand them. They had an unusual
property of rigidity in space, which meant that once they were freely
rotating, they would remain fixed about their axises even as the earth
spun seperately. This allowed people to use gyroscopes to tell time.
Then after this it was discovered gyroscopes could be used as a
compass, when mercury was fixed into their 360 degrees of free
rotation. This caused the gyrosvope to obey more convienient laws and
measure the direction of the earth in ways not thought possible
before. The Navy still uses gyrosvopes to do this today, and since
they have discovered how to use Eric Laithwaites force

It isn't "Eric Laithwaites's force". It's a torque predicted
by Newton. The driving force comes from gravity, which
he also didn't invent.

aboard navy
ships with 50 ton gyrosvopes to keep ships balanced. No one
understands how this force operates yet, but we know it works.

Pure nonsense. You've ignored all the people who told you
how it works. I gave you a Wiki page on the principles
of the gyroscope.

The
navy measures the rock and tilt of the ship with one gyroscope, and
adjusts the precission of the 50 ton gyroscope to counter the ships
ballance, as an inertia drive. The precission of a gyroscop is the
axis of rotation that the spinning disk spins around, just the same as
Eric Laithwaite's experiments. And the knowledge goes on. The
airforce uses gyroscopes to help planes navigate and prevent pilots
from getting vertigo. Rocket's use gyroscopes, and the space shuttle
already uses gyroscopes as part of their automatic propullsion system
in case the space shuttle isn't blasting off exactly on course.

But Laithwaite's life work was using the idea of the Navy's Inertia
Drive that balances their ships out on rough waters, to actually be
used as a propullsion system for satelites in space.

Did you miss the description above about what Laithwaite
says at 23:35-23:45 in the video? He understands he's
just observing Newtonian mechanics in operation. Why
don't you believe him?
- Randy
.
User: "CoreyWhite"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 30 Mar 2007 06:22:25 AM
On Mar 30, 6:51 am, "Randy Poe" <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Mar 29, 10:00 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Mar 29, 7:45 pm, "Ditto" <jmc8...@softhome.net> wrote:


On Mar 29, 7:09 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mar 29, 1:51 pm, "Ditto" <jmc8...@softhome.net> wrote:


On Mar 29, 3:14 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:


Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented the maglev trains
that race through europe, also worked a great deal with gyroscopes and
was able to prove that the physics of gyroscopes defy newtain's laws
about gravity.


He didn't understand how gyroscopes worked at the time, even though
the theory had been worked out 300 years previously by Euler. He
admits this towards the end of the the program "Heretic" which can be
seen in this link:


http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp


I have one of his simple experiments at home. All you need is a
bicycle wheel on a stick, so you can get it spinning up fast. We
built ours out of metal, and fixed an attachment on the wheel, so we
could use a drill to get the wheel spinning really fast.


Once you get the wheel spinning you only have to spin round a central
point with the stick extended, and the paranormal effects of
gyroscopes on gravity begin to occur.


If you mirror the direction of the wheel, and spin yourself around
clockwise, when it spins counterclockwise, the wheel ways less, and
tries to stand itself straight up, like a gravity compass.


If you spin the same direction as the wheel is turning it does the
opposite, and weighs more (pointing itself downward).


Here is a video of Eric Laithwaite preforming the demonstration
himself at a public lecture before he died:http://www.gyros.biz/lecture/wmv/12.wmv


I would recommend you save it to your computer. If you want to try
the demonstration, then I can send you out the same experiment that we
are making in our garage, very cheaply. An electric drill motor would
be suplied, but we can build the drill bits you need to attatch to our
wheel fixture and get the machine spinning at a high speed.


The other thing to note is that the faster you spin the wheel the
greater the effect, but also the faster the stick spins the wheel in
one direction or another adds even more to the anti-gravity.


No one has been able to find a workable model of physics to explain
this, or even really to find math that backs up why it happens. I
suppose that it is just like relativity, and time dialation. Except
it happens within the curvature of space and results in a gravity
dialation. And perhaps it is just that the actual mechanics of the
physics were never meant to happen in nature, unless we as humans
decided to run this experiment.


Does T = dL/dt mean anything to you?


No one understands how gyroscopes work.
He was, before he died one of
the foremost researchers into gyroscope physics. When was the last
time anyone ever took a class about gyroscopes in college or high
school physics? I haven't heard of such a thing. I'm sure you
haven't. Your googling turns up very little, because you are just
misinterpreting the facts. It was someone else who showed him the
first gyroscope experiments, before he had much knowledge about what
was happening. He used his fame as a scientists and engineer to get
the word out about what was going on, and research gyroscopes
further. He did a good job of it too. He points out in his lectures
that there are many other things like this which happen in
engineering, and can't be easily explained with newtains laws. But he
doesn't offer any direct theories as to why anti-gravity can manifest
through gyroscopes. And no one else knows either.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Just watch the video in the link I gave you at the following times:


Between 19:00 and 20:00 the program explains that Prof Laithwaite was
brought up to speed in the theory of the gyroscope. There is even a
black board with Euler's equations on it.


Between 23:35 and 23:45 Prof Laithwaite says "I could now explain the
unexplainable - gyroscopes behave absolutely according to Newton's
laws of motion. We were not now challenging any sacred laws...".


The chinese invented gryroscopes a long time ago but it wasn't until
relativly recently that we began to use them in technology. The first
use was just to study & to understand them. They had an unusual
property of rigidity in space, which meant that once they were freely
rotating, they would remain fixed about their axises even as the earth
spun seperately. This allowed people to use gyroscopes to tell time.
Then after this it was discovered gyroscopes could be used as a
compass, when mercury was fixed into their 360 degrees of free
rotation. This caused the gyrosvope to obey more convienient laws and
measure the direction of the earth in ways not thought possible
before. The Navy still uses gyrosvopes to do this today, and since
they have discovered how to use Eric Laithwaites force


It isn't "Eric Laithwaites's force". It's a torque predicted
by Newton. The driving force comes from gravity, which
he also didn't invent.

aboard navy
ships with 50 ton gyrosvopes to keep ships balanced. No one
understands how this force operates yet, but we know it works.


Pure nonsense. You've ignored all the people who told you
how it works. I gave you a Wiki page on the principles
of the gyroscope.

The
navy measures the rock and tilt of the ship with one gyroscope, and
adjusts the precission of the 50 ton gyroscope to counter the ships
ballance, as an inertia drive. The precission of a gyroscop is the
axis of rotation that the spinning disk spins around, just the same as
Eric Laithwaite's experiments. And the knowledge goes on. The
airforce uses gyroscopes to help planes navigate and prevent pilots
from getting vertigo. Rocket's use gyroscopes, and the space shuttle
already uses gyroscopes as part of their automatic propullsion system
in case the space shuttle isn't blasting off exactly on course.


But Laithwaite's life work was using the idea of the Navy's Inertia
Drive that balances their ships out on rough waters, to actually be
used as a propullsion system for satelites in space.


Did you miss the description above about what Laithwaite
says at 23:35-23:45 in the video? He understands he's
just observing Newtonian mechanics in operation. Why
don't you believe him?

- Randy

You can't discount gyrostabilization unless you can explain it for
yourself. Trusting an online video is just stupid. When Eric says he
feels his laws don't defy newtain, it is because he is of the
philosophy that different laws are interating that are yet unknown.
"A force through space" as he calls it. If space is bending around
the machine, through a similar process to relativity, it appears to be
a shift in gravity and movement through space, but that unknown factor
doesn't contradict what we know.
And as for the Navy, they don't use 50 ton gyroscope stabilization
systems aboard their ships & submarines anymore as far as I know. The
wikipedia page only links up to the idea of using gyroscope to control
ships fins. And that isn't what we are talking about at all:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrostabilizer
A similar gyrostabilizer was also used on a number of experimental
aircrafts. A little extra anti-gravity control kept them in the air
better, before we had jet fuel.
.
User: "T Wake"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 30 Mar 2007 11:46:03 AM
"CoreyWhite" <CoreyWhite@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175253745.497951.145680@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...


You can't discount gyrostabilization unless you can explain it for
yourself.

Well, that pretty much leaves you up s*ht creek without a paddle...

Trusting an online video is just stupid. When Eric says he
feels his laws don't defy newtain,

Who is this newtain of which you speak? Was he famous? Did he do something
important? What subject was it in?

it is because he is of the
philosophy that different laws are interating that are yet unknown.
"A force through space" as he calls it.

Ah. You are just trolling - no one could be as kooky as you.
[OT Groups removed from post]
.

User: "Douglas Eagleson"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 30 Mar 2007 08:38:01 AM
On Mar 30, 7:22 am, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mar 30, 6:51 am, "Randy Poe" <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote:





On Mar 29, 10:00 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mar 29, 7:45 pm, "Ditto" <jmc8...@softhome.net> wrote:


On Mar 29, 7:09 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mar 29, 1:51 pm, "Ditto" <jmc8...@softhome.net> wrote:


On Mar 29, 3:14 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:


Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented the maglev trains
that race through europe, also worked a great deal with gyroscopes and
was able to prove that the physics of gyroscopes defy newtain's laws
about gravity.


He didn't understand how gyroscopes worked at the time, even though
the theory had been worked out 300 years previously by Euler. He
admits this towards the end of the the program "Heretic" which can be
seen in this link:


http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp


I have one of his simple experiments at home. All you need is a
bicycle wheel on a stick, so you can get it spinning up fast. We
built ours out of metal, and fixed an attachment on the wheel, so we
could use a drill to get the wheel spinning really fast.


Once you get the wheel spinning you only have to spin round a central
point with the stick extended, and the paranormal effects of
gyroscopes on gravity begin to occur.


If you mirror the direction of the wheel, and spin yourself around
clockwise, when it spins counterclockwise, the wheel ways less, and
tries to stand itself straight up, like a gravity compass.


If you spin the same direction as the wheel is turning it does the
opposite, and weighs more (pointing itself downward).


Here is a video of Eric Laithwaite preforming the demonstration
himself at a public lecture before he died:http://www.gyros.biz/lecture/wmv/12.wmv


I would recommend you save it to your computer. If you want to try
the demonstration, then I can send you out the same experiment that we
are making in our garage, very cheaply. An electric drill motor would
be suplied, but we can build the drill bits you need to attatch to our
wheel fixture and get the machine spinning at a high speed.


The other thing to note is that the faster you spin the wheel the
greater the effect, but also the faster the stick spins the wheel in
one direction or another adds even more to the anti-gravity.


No one has been able to find a workable model of physics to explain
this, or even really to find math that backs up why it happens. I
suppose that it is just like relativity, and time dialation. Except
it happens within the curvature of space and results in a gravity
dialation. And perhaps it is just that the actual mechanics of the
physics were never meant to happen in nature, unless we as humans
decided to run this experiment.


Does T = dL/dt mean anything to you?


No one understands how gyroscopes work.
He was, before he died one of
the foremost researchers into gyroscope physics. When was the last
time anyone ever took a class about gyroscopes in college or high
school physics? I haven't heard of such a thing. I'm sure you
haven't. Your googling turns up very little, because you are just
misinterpreting the facts. It was someone else who showed him the
first gyroscope experiments, before he had much knowledge about what
was happening. He used his fame as a scientists and engineer to get
the word out about what was going on, and research gyroscopes
further. He did a good job of it too. He points out in his lectures
that there are many other things like this which happen in
engineering, and can't be easily explained with newtains laws. But he
doesn't offer any direct theories as to why anti-gravity can manifest
through gyroscopes. And no one else knows either.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Just watch the video in the link I gave you at the following times:


Between 19:00 and 20:00 the program explains that Prof Laithwaite was
brought up to speed in the theory of the gyroscope. There is even a
black board with Euler's equations on it.


Between 23:35 and 23:45 Prof Laithwaite says "I could now explain the
unexplainable - gyroscopes behave absolutely according to Newton's
laws of motion. We were not now challenging any sacred laws...".


The chinese invented gryroscopes a long time ago but it wasn't until
relativly recently that we began to use them in technology. The first
use was just to study & to understand them. They had an unusual
property of rigidity in space, which meant that once they were freely
rotating, they would remain fixed about their axises even as the earth
spun seperately. This allowed people to use gyroscopes to tell time.
Then after this it was discovered gyroscopes could be used as a
compass, when mercury was fixed into their 360 degrees of free
rotation. This caused the gyrosvope to obey more convienient laws and
measure the direction of the earth in ways not thought possible
before. The Navy still uses gyrosvopes to do this today, and since
they have discovered how to use Eric Laithwaites force


It isn't "Eric Laithwaites's force". It's a torque predicted
by Newton. The driving force comes from gravity, which
he also didn't invent.


aboard navy
ships with 50 ton gyrosvopes to keep ships balanced. No one
understands how this force operates yet, but we know it works.


Pure nonsense. You've ignored all the people who told you
how it works. I gave you a Wiki page on the principles
of the gyroscope.


The
navy measures the rock and tilt of the ship with one gyroscope, and
adjusts the precission of the 50 ton gyroscope to counter the ships
ballance, as an inertia drive. The precission of a gyroscop is the
axis of rotation that the spinning disk spins around, just the same as
Eric Laithwaite's experiments. And the knowledge goes on. The
airforce uses gyroscopes to help planes navigate and prevent pilots
from getting vertigo. Rocket's use gyroscopes, and the space shuttle
already uses gyroscopes as part of their automatic propullsion system
in case the space shuttle isn't blasting off exactly on course.


But Laithwaite's life work was using the idea of the Navy's Inertia
Drive that balances their ships out on rough waters, to actually be
used as a propullsion system for satelites in space.


Did you miss the description above about what Laithwaite
says at 23:35-23:45 in the video? He understands he's
just observing Newtonian mechanics in operation. Why
don't you believe him?


- Randy


You can't discount gyrostabilization unless you can explain it for
yourself. Trusting an online video is just stupid. When Eric says he
feels his laws don't defy newtain, it is because he is of the
philosophy that different laws are interating that are yet unknown.
"A force through space" as he calls it. If space is bending around
the machine, through a similar process to relativity, it appears to be
a shift in gravity and movement through space, but that unknown factor
doesn't contradict what we know.

And as for the Navy, they don't use 50 ton gyroscope stabilization
systems aboard their ships & submarines anymore as far as I know. The
wikipedia page only links up to the idea of using gyroscope to control
ships fins. And that isn't what we are talking about at all:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrostabilizer

A similar gyrostabilizer was also used on a number of experimental
aircrafts. A little extra anti-gravity control kept them in the air
better, before we had jet fuel.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

A rotating gun barrel whether a single barrel or truely gatling gun
like can take advantage of this effect!
A high speed >1rpm will exhibit spin lift of the bullet. A lack of
dropping like a normal rifle's bullet will be found. A weigh
difference is caused by friction with the air, believe it or not.
And if you discount anomally, well you just put blinders on and wangle
you schoolbook functions.
.

User: "Douglas Eagleson"

Title: Re: Eric Laithwaite Defied Newtain 30 Mar 2007 08:57:57 AM
On Mar 30, 7:22 am, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mar 30, 6:51 am, "Randy Poe" <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote:





On Mar 29, 10:00 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mar 29, 7:45 pm, "Ditto" <jmc8...@softhome.net> wrote:


On Mar 29, 7:09 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mar 29, 1:51 pm, "Ditto" <jmc8...@softhome.net> wrote:


On Mar 29, 3:14 pm, "CoreyWhite" <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote:


Eric Laithwaite, who as you probably know invented the maglev trains
that race through europe, also worked a great deal with gyroscopes and
was able to prove that the physics of gyroscopes defy newtain's laws
about gravity.


He didn't understand how gyroscopes worked at the time, even though
the theory had been worked out 300 years previously by Euler. He
admits this towards the end of the the program "Heretic" which can be
seen in this link:


http://www.gyroscopes.org/heretic.asp


I have one of his simple experiments at home. All you need is a
bicycle wheel on a stick, so you can get it spinning up fast. We
built ours out of metal, and fixed an attachment on the wheel, so we
could use a drill to get the wheel spinning really fast.


Once you get the wheel spinning you only have to spin round a central
point with the stick extended, and the paranormal effects of
gyroscopes on gravity begin to occur.


If you mirror the direction of the wheel, and spin yourself around
clockwise, when it spins counterclockwise, the wheel ways less, and
tries to stand itself straight up, like a gravity compass.


If you spin the same direction as the wheel is turning it does the
opposite, and weighs more (pointing itself downward).


Here is a video of Eric Laithwaite preforming the demonstration
himself at a public lecture before he died:http://www.gyros.biz/lecture/wmv/12.wmv


I would recommend you save it to your computer. If you want to try
the demonstration, then I can send you out the same experiment that we
are making in our garage, very cheaply. An electric drill motor would
be suplied, but we can build the drill bits you need to attatch to our
wheel fixture and get the machine spinning at a high speed.


The other thing to note is that the faster you spin the wheel the
greater the effect, but also the faster the stick spins the wheel in
one direction or another adds even more to the anti-gravity.


No one has been able to find a workable model of physics to explain
this, or even really to find math that backs up why it happens. I
suppose that it is just like relativity, and time dialation. Except
it happens within the curvature of space and results in a gravity
dialation. And perhaps it is just that the actual mechanics of the
physics were never meant to happen in nature, unless we as humans
decided to run this experiment.


Does T = dL/dt mean anything to you?


No one understands how gyroscopes work.
He was, before he died one of
the foremost researchers into gyroscope physics. When was the last
time anyone ever took a class about gyroscopes in college or high
school physics? I haven't heard of such a thing. I'm sure you
haven't. Your googling turns up very little, because you are just
misinterpreting the facts. It was someone else who showed him the
first gyroscope experiments, before he had much knowledge about what
was happening. He used his fame as a scientists and engineer to get
the word out about what was going on, and research gyroscopes
further. He did a good job of it too. He points out in his lectures
that there are many other things like this which happen in
engineering, and can't be easily explained with newtains laws. But he
doesn't offer any direct theories as to why anti-gravity can manifes