Science > Physics > Everyone is 100% disgrace to Relativity we do not study Permeability
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Everyone is 100% disgrace to Relativity we do not study Permeability |
Another word for "c" speed of light is Permeability, there's IMPORTANT
unanswered questions that link to Relativity and Time Dilation.
So we must all know the following:
1. Many don't know the meaning of Permiability of Space (will skip
permitivity of space and it's magnetic consequences)
2. Many don't know Permeability = 1/c (neglecting pi & rad)
3. Many don't know Permeability means Porosity?
Another Permeability definition: "The rate of flow of a liquid or gas
through a porous material."
4. Many don't know Permeability means break-down or melt-down limit.
5. Many don't know Permeability is also a wrong wording because the
liquid or gas in the porous material also have a Permeability
(break/melt-down limit) and a better word is not break-down but
break-up.
a) Which is where my insane remarks come from, which is could perhaps
mass (liquid) break-up into tinier molecules as it approaches "c"
(which is the permeability of the space).....(See 6a)?
Which is not insane and deserves a kind response since the similarities
have been demonstrated.
b) ...also which is could perhaps space rupture (Permeability
break-down) into what we call the singularity (we'll exclude vortex
tunneling or tensor tangent manifolds).
6. So from the above definitions another word for Permeability is
Porosity (or Containment: abiltiy of Porous material or liquid not to
break-up /break-out = containment).
a) And if you're trying to shove the liquid into the Porous material,
sometimes the liquid breaks-down first (mass) sometimes the Porous
material breaks-down first (space)?
Perhaps an almost definiton as to what E=mc^2 or E= m/Porosity^2 since
as the permeability limit is reached (1/c) the mass (liquid)
breaks-down into Energy. (or break-out since someone told me to make
nuclear energy mass doesn't break-down in order to release this
Energy).
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| User: "Manual" |
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16 Mar 2005 10:47:30 AM |
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<guskz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Another word for "c" speed of light is Permeability, there's IMPORTANT
unanswered questions that link to Relativity and Time Dilation.
So we must all know the following:
1. Many don't know the meaning of Permiability of Space (will skip
permitivity of space and it's magnetic consequences)
2. Many don't know Permeability = 1/c (neglecting pi & rad)
3. Many don't know Permeability means Porosity?
Another Permeability definition: "The rate of flow of a liquid or gas
through a porous material."
4. Many don't know Permeability means break-down or melt-down limit.
5. Many don't know Permeability is also a wrong wording because the
liquid or gas in the porous material also have a Permeability
(break/melt-down limit) and a better word is not break-down but
break-up.
a) Which is where my insane remarks come from, which is could perhaps
mass (liquid) break-up into tinier molecules as it approaches "c"
(which is the permeability of the space).....(See 6a)?
Which is not insane and deserves a kind response since the similarities
have been demonstrated.
b) ...also which is could perhaps space rupture (Permeability
break-down) into what we call the singularity (we'll exclude vortex
tunneling or tensor tangent manifolds).
6. So from the above definitions another word for Permeability is
Porosity (or Containment: abiltiy of Porous material or liquid not to
break-up /break-out = containment).
Porosity, and increased Permeability are signs of Mad Cow Disease in Humans.
It has nothing to do with the speed of light "c".
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: Everyone is 100% disgrace to Relativity we do not study Permeability |
16 Mar 2005 12:25:22 PM |
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wrote:
Another word for "c" speed of light is Permeability, there's IMPORTANT
unanswered questions that link to Relativity and Time Dilation.
You forgot permittivity. Mu mu. Dead on Arrival.
[snip crap]
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Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Everyone is 100% disgrace to Relativity we do not study Permeability |
20 Mar 2005 10:02:03 AM |
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Uncle Al wrote:
guskz@hotmail.com wrote:
Another word for "c" speed of light is Permeability, there's
IMPORTANT
unanswered questions that link to Relativity and Time Dilation.
You forgot permittivity. Mu mu. Dead on Arrival.
Correct FORGIVE my over indulgant ignorance I over simplify:
c^2 =3D 1 / (permeability * permittivity)
and c =3D 1/permeability * constant (I omitted the constant)
constant =3D sqrt(permeability_space/permit=ADtivity_space)
*****PLEASE Read documentation below *****:
Permittivity "they say" maintains the same aspect ratio with
permeability when the latter is less than it's value in space, in
regards to other mediums such as air, glass or water. (thus a constant
when related to light's velocity in different mediums).
So let's say for air:
permittivity_ air/permittivity_space =3D permeability_air/
permeability_space
thus permittivity_air =3D permeability_air *
(permittivity_space/permeabili=ADty_space)
thus permittivity =3D permeability
*(permittivity_space/permeabil=ADity_space)
and since (permittivity_space/permeabili=ADty_space) is constant
***thus permittivity =3D permeability * constant
replace in c^2 =3D 1 / (permeability * permittivity)
thus c^2 =3D 1 / (permeability * permeability * constant)
thus c =3D 1 /permeability * sqrt(1/ constant)
thus c =3D 1/permeability * constant
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| User: "GR_GR" |
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| Title: Re: Everyone is 100% disgrace to Relativity we do not study Permeability |
16 Mar 2005 06:22:07 PM |
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wrote:
Another word for "c" speed of light is Permeability,
No, it is not.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Everyone is 100% disgrace to Relativity we do not study Permeability |
20 Mar 2005 10:03:34 AM |
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GR_GR wrote:
guskz@hotmail.com wrote:
Another word for "c" speed of light is Permeability,
No, it is not.
YES IT ****IS**** FORGIVE my over indulgant ignorance I over
simplify:
c^2 =3D 1 / (permeability * permittivity)
and c =3D 1/permeability * constant (I omitted the constant)
constant =3D sqrt(permeability_space/permit=ADtivity_space)
*****PLEASE Read documentation below *****:
Permittivity "they say" maintains the same aspect ratio with
permeability when the latter is less than it's value in space, in
regards to other mediums such as air, glass or water. (thus a constant
when related to light's velocity in different mediums).
So let's say for air:
permittivity_ air/permittivity_space =3D permeability_air/
permeability_space
thus permittivity_air =3D permeability_air *
(permittivity_space/permeabili=ADty_space)
thus permittivity =3D permeability
*(permittivity_space/permeabil=ADity_space)
and since (permittivity_space/permeabili=ADty_space) is constant
***thus permittivity =3D permeability * constant
replace in c^2 =3D 1 / (permeability * permittivity)
thus c^2 =3D 1 / (permeability * permeability * constant)
thus c =3D 1 /permeability * sqrt(1/ constant)
thus c =3D 1/permeability * constant
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Everyone is 100% disgrace to Relativity we do not study Permeability |
20 Mar 2005 10:05:25 AM |
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wrote:
Another word for "c" speed of light is Permeability, there's
IMPORTANT
unanswered questions that link to Relativity and Time Dilation.
So we must all know the following:
1. Many don't know the meaning of Permiability of Space (will skip
permitivity of space and it's magnetic consequences)
2. Many don't know Permeability =3D 1/c (neglecting pi & rad)
3. Many don't know Permeability means Porosity?
Another Permeability definition: "The rate of flow of a liquid or gas
through a porous material."
4. Many don't know Permeability means break-down or melt-down limit.
5. Many don't know Permeability is also a wrong wording because the
liquid or gas in the porous material also have a Permeability
(break/melt-down limit) and a better word is not break-down but
break-up.
a) Which is where my insane remarks come from, which is could perhaps
mass (liquid) break-up into tinier molecules as it approaches "c"
(which is the permeability of the space).....(See 6a)?
Which is not insane and deserves a kind response since the
similarities
have been demonstrated.
b) ...also which is could perhaps space rupture (Permeability
break-down) into what we call the singularity (we'll exclude vortex
tunneling or tensor tangent manifolds).
6. So from the above definitions another word for Permeability is
Porosity (or Containment: abiltiy of Porous material or liquid not to
break-up /break-out =3D containment).
a) And if you're trying to shove the liquid into the Porous material,
sometimes the liquid breaks-down first (mass) sometimes the Porous
material breaks-down first (space)?
Perhaps an almost definiton as to what E=3Dmc^2 or E=3D m/Porosity^2
since
as the permeability limit is reached (1/c) the mass (liquid)
breaks-down into Energy. (or break-out since someone told me to make
nuclear energy mass doesn't break-down in order to release this
Energy).
FORGIVE my over indulgant ignorance I over simplify:
c^2 =3D 1 / (permeability * permittivity)
and c =3D 1/permeability * constant (I omitted the constant)
constant =3D sqrt(permeability_space/permit=ADtivity_space)
*****PLEASE Read documentation below *****:
Permittivity "they say" maintains the same aspect ratio with
permeability when the latter is less than it's value in space, in
regards to other mediums such as air, glass or water. (thus a constant
when related to light's velocity in different mediums).
So let's say for air:
permittivity_ air/permittivity_space =3D permeability_air/
permeability_space
thus permittivity_air =3D permeability_air *
(permittivity_space/permeabili=ADty_space)
thus permittivity =3D permeability
*(permittivity_space/permeabil=ADity_space)
and since (permittivity_space/permeabili=ADty_space) is constant
***thus permittivity =3D permeability * constant
replace in c^2 =3D 1 / (permeability * permittivity)
thus c^2 =3D 1 / (permeability * permeability * constant)
thus c =3D 1 /permeability * sqrt(1/ constant)
thus c =3D 1/permeability * constant
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Everyone is 100% disgrace to Relativity we do not study Permeability |
16 Mar 2005 10:55:42 AM |
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wrote:
Another word for "c" speed of light is Permeability, there's IMPORTANT
unanswered questions that link to Relativity and Time Dilation.
Try again!
Permeability
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/PermeabilityofFreeSpace.html
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| User: "bz" |
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| Title: Re: Everyone is 100% disgrace to Relativity we do not study Permeability |
16 Mar 2005 11:07:21 AM |
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Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in news:iyZZd.140605$4q6.26456
@attbi_s01:
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/PermeabilityofFreeSpace.html
There appears to be a typo of some sort on that page. They mention 'H'
but no 'H' appears in any of the formula on the page.
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bz
please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.
bz+sp@ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu remove ch100-5 to avoid spam trap
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| User: "FrediFizzx" |
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| Title: Re: Everyone is 100% disgrace to Relativity we do not study Permeability |
16 Mar 2005 12:34:11 PM |
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"bz" <bz+sp@ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu> wrote in message
news:Xns961B712B6243EWQAHBGMXSZHVspammote@130.39.198.139...
| Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in news:iyZZd.140605$4q6.26456
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| > http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/PermeabilityofFreeSpace.html
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| There appears to be a typo of some sort on that page. They mention 'H'
| but no 'H' appears in any of the formula on the page.
What don't you get about "Equivalent units..." and "where H is an
abbreviation for Henries"?
mu0 = 4pi*10^-7 henries/meter, exactly.
The SI magnetic constant has an adhoc 2pi in it. The real SI magnetic
constant is,
k_m = 2*10^-7 henries/meter
FrediFizzx
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.pdf
or postscript
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.ps
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| User: "bz" |
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| Title: Re: Everyone is 100% disgrace to Relativity we do not study Permeability |
16 Mar 2005 12:47:30 PM |
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"FrediFizzx" <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote in news:39rc7pF64hkedU1
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"bz" <bz+sp@ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu> wrote in message
news:Xns961B712B6243EWQAHBGMXSZHVspammote@130.39.198.139...
| Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in news:iyZZd.140605$4q6.26456
| @attbi_s01:
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| > http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/PermeabilityofFreeSpace.html
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| There appears to be a typo of some sort on that page. They mention 'H'
| but no 'H' appears in any of the formula on the page.
What don't you get about "Equivalent units..." and "where H is an
abbreviation for Henries"?
mu0 = 4pi*10^-7 henries/meter, exactly.
The SI magnetic constant has an adhoc 2pi in it. The real SI magnetic
constant is,
k_m = 2*10^-7 henries/meter
yes, yes and yes... I saw one formula in 'graphics' and thought that the
explanatory text refered to THAT formula.
I agree that Wb/(A m) = N / A^2 = H/m
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bz
please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.
bz+sp@ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu remove ch100-5 to avoid spam trap
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Everyone is 100% disgrace to Relativity we do not study Permeability |
16 Mar 2005 12:11:32 PM |
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bz wrote:
Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in news:iyZZd.140605$4q6.26456
@attbi_s01:
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/PermeabilityofFreeSpace.html
There appears to be a typo of some sort on that page. They mention 'H'
but no 'H' appears in any of the formula on the page.
Perhaps you might want to read the page again... "Equivalent units"
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| User: "bz" |
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| Title: Re: Everyone is 100% disgrace to Relativity we do not study Permeability |
16 Mar 2005 12:27:40 PM |
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Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in news:oF_Zd.73559$r55.43400
@attbi_s52:
There appears to be a typo of some sort on that page. They mention 'H'
but no 'H' appears in any of the formula on the page.
Perhaps you might want to read the page again... "Equivalent units"
You are correct. I misapprehended. I sit corrected.
(I try to make at least one mistake a day just to stay in practice).
--
bz
please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.
bz+sp@ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu remove ch100-5 to avoid spam trap
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| User: "John C. Polasek" |
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| Title: Re: Everyone is 100% disgrace to Relativity we do not study Permeability |
16 Mar 2005 12:41:09 PM |
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On 16 Mar 2005 08:27:58 -0800, wrote:
Another word for "c" speed of light is Permeability, there's IMPORTANT
unanswered questions that link to Relativity and Time Dilation.
So we must all know the following:
1. Many don't know the meaning of Permiability of Space (will skip
permitivity of space and it's magnetic consequences)
2. Many don't know Permeability = 1/c (neglecting pi & rad)
3. Many don't know Permeability means Porosity?
Another Permeability definition: "The rate of flow of a liquid or gas
through a porous material."
4. Many don't know Permeability means break-down or melt-down limit.
5. Many don't know Permeability is also a wrong wording because the
liquid or gas in the porous material also have a Permeability
(break/melt-down limit) and a better word is not break-down but
break-up.
I have analyzed the nature of space and have found mechanical
equivalents to eps and mu, with eps being inverse to Youngs modulus
and mu to mass density rho. These yield Y/rho = c^2.
Your concepts are not well founded,
See my permittivity paper at http://www.dualspace.net
John Polasek
Mr. Dual Space
If you have something to say, write an equation.
If you have nothing to say, write an essay
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