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"Nick" |
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13 Oct 2005 01:58:35 PM |
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Expansion: A Force Greater than Gravity |
What is the escape velocity of the Big Bang?
If there were black holes gravity would be stronger than the force of
expansion. In the case of singularities gravity would be infinite.
The beginning would be of maximum gravity. How could anything escape if
gravity wasn't limited and finite?
Black holes have a couple of problems with infinities. One was pointed
out by Stephen Hawking: General Relativity predicts its own downfall by
predicting singularities(points of infinite space-time curvature)
But he didn't notice another infinity that is GR's failure in the case
of black holes: GR predicts an infinite gravitational redshift to light
at the event horizon. In other words GR predicts the emission of
energyless light at the surface of a black hole.
Energyless light?
Nonsense.
An infinite wavelength of light?
Where's it going to fit?
Black holes are the very failure of General Relativity. There may be no
black holes but there certainly are Dark Holes; places of the extreme
of gravity where light is only redshifted a finite amount and will
always escape because it can't be brought to rest. How's you like that?
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: Expansion: A Force Greater than Gravity |
13 Oct 2005 03:03:06 PM |
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Nick wrote:
What is the escape velocity of the Big Bang?
[snip crap]
Idiot. Escape to where? In what direction, jackass? All 4(pi)
steradians of every point in the universe is exactly directed toward
the Big Bang. Idiot.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "FrediFizzx" |
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| Title: Re: Expansion: A Force Greater than Gravity |
13 Oct 2005 04:38:14 PM |
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"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:434EBD7A.E03336A4@hate.spam.net...
| Nick wrote:
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| > What is the escape velocity of the Big Bang?
| [snip crap]
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| Idiot. Escape to where? In what direction, jackass? All 4(pi)
| steradians of every point in the universe is exactly directed toward
| the Big Bang. Idiot.
Hmm... While that is true for the past, it is not necessarily true for
the future. Where does all 4pi steradians point wrt the future? "Our"
Universe's "now" is an event horizon that physically moves at c. Ponder
that a little bit.
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0509010
FrediFizzx
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.pdf
or postscript
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.ps
http://www.vacuum-physics.com
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| User: "Nick" |
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| Title: Re: Expansion: A Force Greater than Gravity |
13 Oct 2005 04:43:10 PM |
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If the space-stretch called expansion is effected by gravity then there
is effectively an escape velocity to the Big Bang. According to
Hubble's law we know that the space-stretch is equivalent to galaxies
moving away *through space* If they werent exactly equivalent we
wouldn't know where the galaxies are.
Hi Freddi !
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| User: "Mark Martin" |
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| Title: Re: Expansion: A Force Greater than Gravity |
13 Oct 2005 03:17:55 PM |
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Nick wrote:
Energyless light?
Nonsense.
An infinite wavelength of light?
Where's it going to fit?
A photon with infinite wavelngth is equivalent to one that's not
there to begin with. It'll fit in quite nicely.
-Mark Martin
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