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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "David Rutherford"
Date: 26 Dec 2003 12:24:34 PM
Object: Experiment to test my theory
I think I may have come up with an experiment that could verify my
theory and invalidate classical EM (or vice versa). According to a
computer simulation I wrote to test the experiment, there should be a
measurable difference between the predictions of classical EM and my theory.
The experiment involves directing two electron beams toward each other
at an angle. Here is a crude diagram of the experiment.
electron gun A
[]
. .
. .
. . y
. . |
. |
. |_____ x
. .
. .
. .
. .
[]
electron gun B
In the simulation, I considered two isolated electrons, instead of two
electron beams, first using my non-relativistic force equations from
http://www.softcom.net/users/der555/actreact.pdf
and then using the Lorentz force law, to calculate the forces on the
particles. It appears that, from the computer simulation, the shapes of
the trajectories of the particles are measurably different, for the two
cases, with the apex of my curve being measurably further along the
x-axis than the classical apex. I don't know if a valid correlation can
be made between two electrons and two electron beams, but I don't really
know how to do the calculation for two beams.
If someone has a way to compute the trajectories of the two electron
beams from the Lorentz force law (or from my force law), I would
appreciate some help in getting a more accurate theoretical prediction
for the shape of the trajectories and the x-position of the apex
according to the Lorentz force law and according to my force law. These
predictions can then be compared with experimental results.
Since I don't have the equipment or the experimental skills,
unfortunately, I'm unable to carry out the experiment myself. But, at
least, the numbers would be there if someone wants to do the experiment.
I would appreciate any help, thanks.
--
Dave Rutherford
"New Transformation Equations and the Electric Field Four-vector"
http://www.softcom.net/users/der555/newtransform.pdf
Applications:
"4/3 Problem Resolution"
http://www.softcom.net/users/der555/elecmass.pdf
"Action-reaction Paradox Resolution"
http://www.softcom.net/users/der555/actreact.pdf
"Energy Density Correction"
http://www.softcom.net/users/der555/enerdens.pdf
"Proposed Quantum Mechanical Connection"
http://www.softcom.net/users/der555/quantum.pdf
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User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: Experiment to test my theory 26 Dec 2003 02:00:45 PM
David Rutherford wrote:


I think I may have come up with an experiment that could verify my
theory and invalidate classical EM (or vice versa). According to a
computer simulation I wrote to test the experiment, there should be a
measurable difference between the predictions of classical EM and my theory.

[snip]
1) J.D. Jackson, "Classical Electrodynamics," 3rd Edition
The defining book covering the physics and classical mathematics
necessary to understand electromagnetic fields - in free space, in
media, at surfaces, and at interfaces.
2)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete0.jpg
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete1.png
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http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete5.jpg
http://w0rli.home.att.net/youare.swf

I would appreciate any help, thanks.

3) You see yourself this way,
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete6.jpg
The entire remainder of the planet sees you this way,
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete7.jpg
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!
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User: "Robert J. Kolker"

Title: Re: Experiment to test my theory 27 Dec 2003 03:31:16 PM
Uncle Al wrote:


3) You see yourself this way,
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete6.jpg
The entire remainder of the planet sees you this way,
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete7.jpg

Al, do you have too much free time? But they are funny.
Bob Kolker




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User: "The Ghost In The Machine"

Title: Re: Experiment to test my theory 28 Dec 2003 11:00:48 PM
In sci.physics, Robert J. Kolker
<bobkolker@NOSPAMcomcast.net>
wrote
on Sat, 27 Dec 2003 21:31:16 GMT
<ESmHb.496414$275.1397415@attbi_s53>:



Uncle Al wrote:


3) You see yourself this way,
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete6.jpg

That looks *painful*.
(chuckles)

The entire remainder of the planet sees you this way,
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/effete7.jpg

Heh.


Al, do you have too much free time? But they are funny.

Indeed.
[.sigsnip]
--
#191,

It's still legal to go .sigless.
.



User: "Rene Tschaggelar"

Title: Re: Experiment to test my theory 26 Dec 2003 04:18:52 PM
David Rutherford wrote:

I think I may have come up with an experiment that could verify my
theory and invalidate classical EM (or vice versa). According to a
computer simulation I wrote to test the experiment, there should be a
measurable difference between the predictions of classical EM and my
theory.

The experiment involves directing two electron beams toward each other
at an angle. Here is a crude diagram of the experiment.
[snip]

In the simulation, I considered two isolated electrons, instead of two
electron beams, first using my non-relativistic force equations from

http://www.softcom.net/users/der555/actreact.pdf

and then using the Lorentz force law, to calculate the forces on the
particles. It appears that, from the computer simulation, the shapes of
the trajectories of the particles are measurably different, for the two
cases, with the apex of my curve being measurably further along the
x-axis than the classical apex. I don't know if a valid correlation can
be made between two electrons and two electron beams, but I don't really
know how to do the calculation for two beams.

If someone has a way to compute the trajectories of the two electron
beams from the Lorentz force law (or from my force law), I would
appreciate some help in getting a more accurate theoretical prediction
for the shape of the trajectories and the x-position of the apex
according to the Lorentz force law and according to my force law. These
predictions can then be compared with experimental results.

Since I don't have the equipment or the experimental skills,
unfortunately, I'm unable to carry out the experiment myself. But, at
least, the numbers would be there if someone wants to do the experiment.

David,
Somewhat bold to propose a new theory while not being able to do the
required calculations.
How about asking for some equation or solutions before coming up with
a theory ?
Rene
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