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http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.
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27 Jan 2008 01:05:04 AM |
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In sci.physics kT <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.
Since what actually "crashed" was a BMW full of teenagers...
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27 Jan 2008 01:22:41 AM |
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In sci.physics kT <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.
Since what actually "crashed" was a BMW full of teenagers...
Contrary to common belief, not all BMW drivers are idiots; but any teenager
driving a 2008 BMW is probably a disaster waiting to happen. This is not to
say that BMW's aren't capable, safe and forgiving. They are. It's just that
when they break loose, they often do so at a ridiculous velocity, with very
little warning.
My sympathy goes out to the parents and friends of these teenagers.
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| User: "Einar" |
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27 Jan 2008 07:59:38 AM |
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On Jan 27, 2:22 am, "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote:
<j...@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message
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In sci.physics kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.
Since what actually "crashed" was a BMW full of teenagers...
Contrary to common belief, not all BMW drivers are idiots; but any teenager
driving a 2008 BMW is probably a disaster waiting to happen. This is not to
say that BMW's aren't capable, safe and forgiving. They are. It's just that
when they break loose, they often do so at a ridiculous velocity, with very
little warning.
My sympathy goes out to the parents and friends of these teenagers.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
Clearly these kids must have been driving the car at very unsafe
speed. It goes off the end of the runaway and then simply
dinsintegrates.
BMWs are strongly made cars, so the velocity of that particular
example must have been quite considerable to cause it to come apart.
Clearly the kid under the wheel must have been showing off how fast
the care is, and not payd sufficient attention to brake in time.
Yeah, second your whishes of sympathy.
Einar
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28 Jan 2008 01:41:19 AM |
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On Jan 27, 8:59 am, Einar <eina...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 27, 2:22 am, "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote:
<j...@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message
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In sci.physics kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.
Since what actually "crashed" was a BMW full of teenagers...
Contrary to common belief, not all BMW drivers are idiots; but any teenager
driving a 2008 BMW is probably a disaster waiting to happen. This is not to
say that BMW's aren't capable, safe and forgiving. They are. It's just that
when they break loose, they often do so at a ridiculous velocity, with very
little warning.
My sympathy goes out to the parents and friends of these teenagers.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
Clearly these kids must have been driving the car at very unsafe
speed. It goes off the end of the runaway and then simply
dinsintegrates.
BMWs are strongly made cars, so the velocity of that particular
example must have been quite considerable to cause it to come apart.
Clearly the kid under the wheel must have been showing off how fast
the care is, and not payd sufficient attention to brake in time.
Yeah, second your whishes of sympathy.
Einar
The article also stated that the "accident" occurred at 3:45 on a
Saturday morning (*late* on a Friday night). Given that all 5
occupants of the vehicle were males under 21, would anybody here like
to place a wager that all five were sober? That any single one of
them was sober (0.02 in Florida for drivers under 21)? That anybody
even had a blood alcohol that was below the legal limit for adults
(0.08)?
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
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| User: "Einar" |
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28 Jan 2008 06:32:15 AM |
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On Jan 28, 2:41 am, tadchem <tadc...@comcast.net> wrote:
On Jan 27, 8:59 am, Einar <eina...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 27, 2:22 am, "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote:
<j...@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message
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In sci.physics kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.
Since what actually "crashed" was a BMW full of teenagers...
Contrary to common belief, not all BMW drivers are idiots; but any teenager
driving a 2008 BMW is probably a disaster waiting to happen. This is not to
say that BMW's aren't capable, safe and forgiving. They are. It's just that
when they break loose, they often do so at a ridiculous velocity, with very
little warning.
My sympathy goes out to the parents and friends of these teenagers.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
Clearly these kids must have been driving the car at very unsafe
speed. It goes off the end of the runaway and then simply
dinsintegrates.
BMWs are strongly made cars, so the velocity of that particular
example must have been quite considerable to cause it to come apart.
Clearly the kid under the wheel must have been showing off how fast
the care is, and not payd sufficient attention to brake in time.
Yeah, second your whishes of sympathy.
Einar
The article also stated that the "accident" occurred at 3:45 on a
Saturday morning (*late* on a Friday night). Given that all 5
occupants of the vehicle were males under 21, would anybody here like
to place a wager that all five were sober? That any single one of
them was sober (0.02 in Florida for drivers under 21)? That anybody
even had a blood alcohol that was below the legal limit for adults
(0.08)?
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
There is litle point in speculating about that. Sounds likely though.
Einar
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| User: "Benj" |
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27 Jan 2008 01:31:05 AM |
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On Jan 27, 2:22 am, "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote:
Contrary to common belief, not all BMW drivers are idiots; but any teenager
driving a 2008 BMW is probably a disaster waiting to happen. This is not to
say that BMW's aren't capable, safe and forgiving. They are. It's just that
when they break loose, they often do so at a ridiculous velocity, with very
little warning.
There you go. Seems like a gigantic half billion dollar lawsuit is in
order! Clearly BMW was criminally marketing their unsafe cars in a
way that caused cities to have to spend money like police to
investigate or janitors with brooms to sweep up the remains of these
teen morons. I say sue the pants off of them! Happily, U.S. cities
have already set the precedent for such lawsuits by going after gun
makers. The exemption bill passed by Congress doesn't cover cars. I
believe we call this "The American Way"!
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| User: "Einar" |
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27 Jan 2008 08:01:57 AM |
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On Jan 27, 2:31 am, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
On Jan 27, 2:22 am, "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote:
Contrary to common belief, not all BMW drivers are idiots; but any teena=
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driving a 2008 BMW is probably a disaster waiting to happen. This is no=
t to
say that BMW's aren't capable, safe and forgiving. They are. It's just =
that
when they break loose, they often do so at a ridiculous velocity, with v=
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little warning.
There you go. Seems like a gigantic half billion dollar lawsuit is in
order! Clearly BMW was criminally marketing their unsafe cars in a
way that caused cities to have to spend money like police to
investigate or janitors with brooms to sweep up the remains of these
teen morons. I say sue the pants off of them! Happily, U.S. cities
have already set the precedent for such lawsuits by going after gun
makers. The exemption bill passed by Congress doesn't cover cars. I
believe we call this "The American Way"!
What idiocy is this? No car in exhistence will survive going into the
treas at say 100 - 120 miles/h.
If you feel unsafe, drive a tank that is if they=B4ll let you, or
preferably don=B4t drive at all.
Einar
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| User: "BradGuth" |
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28 Jan 2008 02:48:52 PM |
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On Jan 26, 10:11 pm, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.
You can't tell me that some of our best educated Americans are not
getting dumb and dumber, as all the time there's proof positive that
I'm more often right than not.
- Brad Guth
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| User: "After all is said and done - theres nothing more to say or do" |
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27 Jan 2008 12:17:50 AM |
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On Jan 27, 12:11=EF=BF=BDam, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.
The writer of the article told us all ...." There was no
indication ..
whether the dead guy were wear ing seat belts @@@@@@@ !!!!
say what....Do they think seat belts would have done a thing ...for
these brainless dunces...I will pray for them ...maybe this hideous
crash will deter others
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| User: "WG" |
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27 Jan 2008 08:03:25 AM |
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"After all is said and done - there's nothing more to say or do" =
<fastpitstops@aol.com> wrote in message =
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On Jan 27, 12:11=EF=BF=BDam, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.
...I will pray for them ...
What an odd thing to do after they are already dead!
Why not pray that these accidents don't happen to begin with.
OOps!! I know the answer... it wont work.
In the history of mankind, nothing has a bigger failure rate than prayer.
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| User: "Einar" |
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27 Jan 2008 07:52:36 AM |
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On Jan 27, 9:03 am, "WG" <wgilm...@I-zoom.net> wrote:
"After all is said and done - there's nothing more to say or do" <fastpits=
t...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:b74003b1-2120-4361-8111-46ee2ea3b1f6@j20g=
2000hsi.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 27, 12:11=EF=BF=BDam, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.
...I will pray for them ...
What an odd thing to do after they are already dead!
Why not pray that these accidents don't happen to begin with.
OOps!! I know the answer... it wont work.
In the history of mankind, nothing has a bigger failure rate than prayer.
Hmm, the idea behind prayer is to aid theyr souls, so they=C2=B4ll be more
inclined to seek admittance to heaven.
I wonder how you measure 'failure rate' :) Now, really :) how can you
know that anyone failed to find heaven :) , or for that prayer has the
highest failure rate of all :)
Einar
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27 Jan 2008 10:26:06 AM |
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"Einar" <einarbb@gmail.com> wrote in message =
news:1879b333-e9df-41a5-ac40-b91de792245c@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...=
On Jan 27, 9:03 am, "WG" <wgilm...@I-zoom.net> wrote:
"After all is said and done - there's nothing more to say or do" =
<fastpitst...@aol.com> wrote in =
messagenews:b74003b1-2120-4361-8111-46ee2ea3b1f6@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups=
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On Jan 27, 12:11=EF=BF=BDam, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.
...I will pray for them ...
What an odd thing to do after they are already dead!
Why not pray that these accidents don't happen to begin with.
OOps!! I know the answer... it wont work.
In the history of mankind, nothing has a bigger failure rate than =
prayer.
Hmm, the idea behind prayer is to aid theyr souls, so they=C2=B4ll be =
more
inclined to seek admittance to heaven.
An evil sinner is an evil sinner. Why would you expect a recomendation =
from a mere mortal should or would influence Gods decision? Is God =
confused about who is naughty or nice?
I wonder how you measure 'failure rate' :)=20
Scientific method is the only way we mortals can falsify claims like =
this.
, and there has never been any evidence of prayer giving a higher sucess =
rate on anything, and there have been studies. A few years back there =
was a study that suggested prayer helped those who were seriously ill, =
but all attempts to reproduce those results failed. [Larger and more =
stringent studies].
Now, really :) how can you
know that anyone failed to find heaven :)=20
I agree here. This is beyond science and knowing. Blind faith has to be =
invoked here.
, or for that prayer has the
highest failure rate of all :)
See follow up Joke.. :) :)
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28 Jan 2008 03:38:32 PM |
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On Jan 27, 8:52 am, Einar <eina...@gmail.com> wrote:
In the history of mankind, nothing has a bigger failure rate than prayer=
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Hmm, the idea behind prayer is to aid theyr souls, so they=B4ll be more
inclined to seek admittance to heaven.
Hmmm. I'd sure like to be a fly on the wall when the driver of this
car applies to St. Peter for admission to the Pearly Gates!
Clearly some fast talk and help from others is going to be needed! My
guess is that although Peter isn't an "evolutionist" I'll bet winning
a "Darwin" award gets him fingering the lever to the trapdoor down!
I wonder how you measure 'failure rate' :) Now, really :) how can you
know that anyone failed to find heaven :) , or for that prayer has the
highest failure rate of all :)
Actually a lot more is known about "prayer" than WG implies. "WG"
obviously has a political agenda here and therefore is trying to
"debunk" anything remotely related to what is perceived as religion
(other than atheism, of course).
The truth is that prayer and ALL mental effects (such as the Placebo
effect) have been studied quite a bit and some broad outlines of the
actions have been studied. WG is clearly more into atheism than
science. Science examines data and draws conclusions. Dogma just does
"proof by assertion".
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28 Jan 2008 05:34:15 PM |
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On Jan 28, 4:38 pm, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
On Jan 27, 8:52 am, Einar <eina...@gmail.com> wrote:
In the history of mankind, nothing has a bigger failure rate than pray=
er.
Hmm, the idea behind prayer is to aid theyr souls, so they=B4ll be more
inclined to seek admittance to heaven.
Hmmm. I'd sure like to be a fly on the wall when the driver of this
car applies to St. Peter for admission to the Pearly Gates!
Clearly some fast talk and help from others is going to be needed! My
guess is that although Peter isn't an "evolutionist" I'll bet winning
a "Darwin" award gets him fingering the lever to the trapdoor down!
I wonder how you measure 'failure rate' :) Now, really :) how can you
know that anyone failed to find heaven :) , or for that prayer has the
highest failure rate of all :)
Actually a lot more is known about "prayer" than WG implies. "WG"
obviously has a political agenda here and therefore is trying to
"debunk" anything remotely related to what is perceived as religion
(other than atheism, of course).
The truth is that prayer and ALL mental effects (such as the Placebo
effect) have been studied quite a bit and some broad outlines of the
actions have been studied. WG is clearly more into atheism than
science. Science examines data and draws conclusions. Dogma just does
"proof by assertion".
I wonder if you are familiar with Jewish believes on afterlife. Just
read the OT, but it=B4s clear that they believe that death means lying
in the grave, cold. But that on the day of judgement those who
believed in him are chosen to live again and then forever. So, the
alternative is to continue to be dead.
They apparently likened death to sleep:
Spalm 7:5 "then let my enemy pursue and overtake me;let him trample my
life to the ground and make me sleep in the dust."
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Jeremiah 51:" The punishement of Babylon is sleep/death:"
37 Babylon will be a heap of ruins,
a haunt of jackals,
an object of horror and scorn,
a place where no one lives.
38 Her people all roar like young lions,
they growl like lion cubs.
39 But while they are aroused,
I will set out a feast for them
and make them drunk,
so that they shout with laughter--
then sleep forever and not awake,"
declares the LORD. "
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Daniel 12 - his reward is to be resurrected on the day of judgement,
but untill then he would sleep.
"13 "As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at
the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted
inheritance.""
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Now, as they believed that death is death, but that those who believe
will be resurrected at the end of times, and as early christians
believed that Jesus had thrown out the gates of heaven so that
believers in him go to heaven at once not on day of judgement meaning
that day of judgement is for others; the alternative to believing in
God or obeying God is then death - if one follows the original Jewish
believes and the early church believes. So hell =3D death.
Now, since then believes in what happens, have evolved. But these as
far as I can see are the original versions.
Einar
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28 Jan 2008 07:23:12 PM |
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On Jan 28, 6:34 pm, Einar <eina...@gmail.com> wrote:
Now, as they believed that death is death, but that those who believe
will be resurrected at the end of times, and as early christians
believed that Jesus had thrown out the gates of heaven so that
believers in him go to heaven at once not on day of judgement meaning
that day of judgement is for others; the alternative to believing in
God or obeying God is then death - if one follows the original Jewish
believes and the early church believes. So hell = death.
This is probably not wrong in that as I understand it Hell was a
Jewish word for a shallow grave.
Now, since then believes in what happens, have evolved. But these as
far as I can see are the original versions.
But of course, in science, what people believe is usually only of
secondary importance. The key is always what are the data and what is
observed. I suspect that due to the Egyptian experience of the Jews,
they doubtless assimilated more than a few ideas of the early
Egyptians who appear to the first people to really try to study the
physics of death. Their conclusions which are still widely accepted by
mystics and churches today were that life exists in more than just
three dimensions. Your body and other possessions exist in these three
obvious dimensions, but there is evidence of the reality of a manifold
of more dimensions. In those dimensions there appears to exist sort of
duplicates of you physical body as well as you mind. Hence when the
physical body dies the other dimensional bodies go on animated by your
same mind which also exists in other dimensions apart from the
physical brain. All of this is what led Egyptians to have such an
emphasis on attempting to preserve the physical body on death through
mummification etc. Typically "science" denies the existence of such
ultra-dimensional structures. It takes the rather narrow view that
three dimensions are all there are and therefore the only logical
conclusion is that life-after-death (of the physical) is impossible.
Quite frankly there is MUCH evidence or at minimum HINTS that this
view is simply wrong. Physics is finally starting to begin to take
seriously the possibility of hyper-dimensionality. And of course once
you admit that, the whole can of worms is opened up. And of course all
this doesn't even begin to approach the effects of mind over matter as
it's called. The bottom line is that given an admission of the
possibility of a physical mind in communication with the higher-
dimensional "mind" of a person whose physical body has died, the
possible effects of so-called "prayer" certainly do not seem so
ridiculous.
What in hell was the question again?
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| Title: Re: Experimental Car-Plane Crashes - Five Brilliant AmericansDarwined Out |
28 Jan 2008 07:46:00 PM |
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On Jan 28, 8:23 pm, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
On Jan 28, 6:34 pm, Einar <eina...@gmail.com> wrote:
Now, as they believed that death is death, but that those who believe
will be resurrected at the end of times, and as early christians
believed that Jesus had thrown out the gates of heaven so that
believers in him go to heaven at once not on day of judgement meaning
that day of judgement is for others; the alternative to believing in
God or obeying God is then death - if one follows the original Jewish
believes and the early church believes. So hell = death.
This is probably not wrong in that as I understand it Hell was a
Jewish word for a shallow grave.
Now, since then believes in what happens, have evolved. But these as
far as I can see are the original versions.
But of course, in science, what people believe is usually only of
secondary importance. The key is always what are the data and what is
observed. I suspect that due to the Egyptian experience of the Jews,
they doubtless assimilated more than a few ideas of the early
Egyptians who appear to the first people to really try to study the
physics of death. Their conclusions which are still widely accepted by
mystics and churches today were that life exists in more than just
three dimensions. Your body and other possessions exist in these three
obvious dimensions, but there is evidence of the reality of a manifold
of more dimensions. In those dimensions there appears to exist sort of
duplicates of you physical body as well as you mind. Hence when the
physical body dies the other dimensional bodies go on animated by your
same mind which also exists in other dimensions apart from the
physical brain. All of this is what led Egyptians to have such an
emphasis on attempting to preserve the physical body on death through
mummification etc. Typically "science" denies the existence of such
ultra-dimensional structures. It takes the rather narrow view that
three dimensions are all there are and therefore the only logical
conclusion is that life-after-death (of the physical) is impossible.
Quite frankly there is MUCH evidence or at minimum HINTS that this
view is simply wrong. Physics is finally starting to begin to take
seriously the possibility of hyper-dimensionality. And of course once
you admit that, the whole can of worms is opened up. And of course all
this doesn't even begin to approach the effects of mind over matter as
it's called. The bottom line is that given an admission of the
possibility of a physical mind in communication with the higher-
dimensional "mind" of a person whose physical body has died, the
possible effects of so-called "prayer" certainly do not seem so
ridiculous.
What in hell was the question again?
LOL, ok. The question is then about what kind of an universe we live
in. Now, string theorists tend to reckon with 9 dimensions, they
assume usually to be collapsed to a point. But, an alternative would
be that instead they are all around us, all 9 of them...it being just
that we are only equipped to sence in 3 dimensions, meaning that the
rest are simply invisible to us in the same way that a 3 dimension
would be invisible to a being living in a 2 dimensional existence.
Now, ghosts to name an example might be 3 dimesnional shadows of a 4
dimensional being/precense, being near us in space but invisible to
our 3 dimensional sences only its shadow being seen by us. Angels,
likewice might have a 4 dimensional exhistence, only being fleetilly
indirectly wisible in theyr shadow.
Perhaps all of exhistence has really existed forever, meaning there
are infinite 3 dimensional universes within the 4 dimension and they
moreover are forming all of the time. That would mean that all types
would exist and at all ages, both living and dead.
Perhaps dark matter is 4 dimensional matter, which structure can only
be perceived from a 4 dimensional perspective.
Einar
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27 Jan 2008 10:34:30 AM |
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There was this young couple on vacation in Jerusalem. One day they =
visited the wailing wall. {This is a real wall where the religious come =
to pray}. They saw this old man in his 80s kneeling and praying. After =
he finished they asked him how long he had been praying here.=20
He replied over 70 years and never missed a day.
They then asked what he was praying for.=20
He replied. Good will towards man, and an end to war, hunger, disease, =
crime and mans inhumanity to man.
They asked how it has been working for him.
He replied:
Its like talking to a f*cking wall!!!
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27 Jan 2008 04:12:26 PM |
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"WG" <wgilmour@I-zoom.net> wrote in message
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There was this young couple on vacation in Jerusalem. One day they visited
the wailing wall. {
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Aren't you just Mister Sunshine?
To Kill File Hell with you.
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| User: "Non-TweedlePug Voter" |
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| Title: Re: Follow up joke |
28 Jan 2008 12:45:34 AM |
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On 27 Jan 2008, WG wrote:
There was this young couple on vacation in Jerusalem. One day they
visited the wailing wall. {This is a real wall where the religious come
to pray}. They saw this old man in his 80s kneeling and praying. After
he finished they asked him how long he had been praying here. He replied
over 70 years and never missed a day. They then asked what he was
praying for. He replied. Good will towards man, and an end to war,
hunger, disease, crime and mans inhumanity to man. They asked how it has
been working for him.
He replied:
Its like talking to a f*cking wall!!!
Har. Dugg.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Follow up joke |
28 Jan 2008 02:31:54 PM |
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I always thought that prayer was most beneficial to the person saying
the prayer.
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| User: "kT" |
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| Title: Re: Experimental Car-Plane Crashes - Five Brilliant Americans DarwinedOut |
27 Jan 2008 12:20:45 AM |
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After all is said and done - there's nothing more to say or do wrote:
On Jan 27, 12:11�am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.
The writer of the article told us all ...." There was no
indication ..
whether the dead guy were wear ing seat belts @@@@@@@ !!!!
say what....Do they think seat belts would have done a thing ...for
these brainless dunces...I will pray for them ...maybe this hideous
crash will deter others
Well, we really only have evidence of a single brainless dunce here.
We'll just have to give the others the benefit of doubt.
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| User: "Eric Chomko" |
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| Title: Re: Experimental Car-Plane Crashes - Five Brilliant AmericansDarwined Out |
28 Jan 2008 01:51:35 PM |
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On Jan 27, 1:11=A0am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.
Candidates for the Darwin Award.
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| User: "Sylvia Else" |
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| Title: Re: Experimental Car-Plane Crashes - Five Brilliant Americans DarwinedOut |
29 Jan 2008 12:23:22 AM |
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Eric Chomko wrote:
On Jan 27, 1:11 am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.
Candidates for the Darwin Award.
Not really enough ingenuity involved to qualify. Looks like they went
for a wild ride down the runway at night, and failed to realise that at
that speed they couldn't stop within anything like the distance they
could see with the headlights.
To qualify for a Darwin Award, the candidate needs to engineer their own
death, not merely achieve it through stupidity.
Sylvia.
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| User: "Jonathan" |
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| Title: Re: Experimental Car-Plane Crashes - Five Brilliant Americans Darwined Out |
29 Jan 2008 08:25:02 PM |
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"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message =
news:479ec65a$0$10313$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Eric Chomko wrote:
On Jan 27, 1:11 am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.
=20
Candidates for the Darwin Award.
=20
Not really enough ingenuity involved to qualify. Looks like they went=20
for a wild ride down the runway at night, and failed to realise that =
at=20
that speed they couldn't stop within anything like the distance they=20
could see with the headlights.
He should've read the manual first and known how to use the
active cruise control radar, the head up display and infrared camera.=20
Just set the active cruise control to 155, then place both feet=20
....on the floor..and let the computers do the rest.
The long range far infrared camera extends the range of the adaptive =
headlights
from about 150 to 300 meters with the extra 150 meters displayed=20
on a 7 inch screen in the dash. At about 250-300 meters the radar=20
in the active cruise control would've spotted the embankment, began=20
displaying the embankment on the head up display, encased the object=20
in yellow once it's been locked on, then in red when it becomes
a collision threat. Once it has, a large red triangular collision =
warning
is flashed on the head up display, while calculating and automatically=20
applying the amount of braking, up to full lock, needed to slow to under =
40 mph before returning control of the brakes and throttle=20
back to the driver. =20
In short, he should have known how to use the 'auto pilot'. He probably=20
would've stopped in time. All M-5s are speed limited to 155 mph so to
not exceed their capabilities. 250 to 300 meters should be enough=20
distance to stop from 155, as 60 to 0 is about 110 feet.
The kids supposedly snuck in, BMW thought about that too as the
night vision is kept disabled unless the headlights are on.=20
=20
To qualify for a Darwin Award, the candidate needs to engineer their =
own=20
death, not merely achieve it through stupidity.
=20
Sylvia.
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| User: "Rand Simberg" |
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| Title: Re: Experimental Car-Plane Crashes - Five Brilliant Americans Darwined Out |
29 Jan 2008 07:20:02 AM |
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:23:22 +1100, in a place far, far away, Sylvia
Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> made the phosphor on my monitor glow
in such a way as to indicate that:
Eric Chomko wrote:
On Jan 27, 1:11 am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.
Candidates for the Darwin Award.
Not really enough ingenuity involved to qualify. Looks like they went
for a wild ride down the runway at night, and failed to realise that at
that speed they couldn't stop within anything like the distance they
could see with the headlights.
To qualify for a Darwin Award, the candidate needs to engineer their own
death, not merely achieve it through stupidity.
Not true. Stupidity is sufficient, if it's sufficiently stupid.
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| User: "Eric Chomko" |
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| Title: Re: Experimental Car-Plane Crashes - Five Brilliant AmericansDarwined Out |
29 Jan 2008 11:02:43 AM |
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On Jan 29, 8:20=A0am, (Rand Simberg)
wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:23:22 +1100, in a place far, far away, Sylvia
Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> made the phosphor on my monitor glow
in such a way as to indicate that:
Eric Chomko wrote:
On Jan 27, 1:11 am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/26/airstrip.car.crash/
American technological leadership suffers yet another great loss.
Candidates for the Darwin Award.
Not really enough ingenuity involved to qualify. Looks like they went
for a wild ride down the runway at night, and failed to realise that at
that speed they couldn't stop within anything like the distance they
could see with the headlights.
To qualify for a Darwin Award, the candidate needs to engineer their own
death, not merely achieve it through stupidity.
Not true. =A0Stupidity is sufficient, if it's sufficiently stupid.
And driving a car down an airplane runway at a way to fast speed
qualifies for engineering one's death.
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