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I grabbed this gif below from a forum that was discussing the article.
Many were claiming the prediction is a bit 'chicken little' if you
will because the ocean temp. near NYC is just too cool to support a
category 3 or larger storm..hence weakening before landfall. Perhaps
a weather buff would like to comment on the realistic possibility. I
live in New Jersey and have weathered over a dozen Hurricanes and
Tropical Storms in my 44 years. Never has one been more than a
category 1. Although the flooding has been on par a few times with
the events in the Southern US recently without the wind or severe
storm surge.
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/913/sstbrown5ab.gif
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Keith
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article315001.ece
Experts warn New York: you could be next
By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Editor
Published: 25 September 2005
Experts are predicting still more hurricanes, in what could be the
worst year for the storms since records began. The US government's
official National Hurricane Center and scientists at Colorado State
University, who predicted both Katrina and Rita, expect several more
named storms in the remaining two months of the hurricane season. And
the World Meteorological Organisation believes that the record of 21,
set in 1933, may be beaten.
Some of these storms could hit the US, and experts say New York could
be the next city to be devastated. The area around the Big Apple is
listed by the Center as the fifth most vulnerable in the country,
after New Orleans, the Florida Keys, Tampa in Florida and Galveston in
Texas, all targeted by hurricanes in the past two years.
Max Mayfield, director of the Center, told Congress that Katrina "will
not be the last major hurricane to hit a vulnerable area, and New
Orleans is not the only location vulnerable to a large disaster from a
land-falling hurricane".
Local experts say that such a catastrophe is "inevitable", and the New
York City authorities warn that it could bring a 30ft-high storm surge
crashing into Manhattan.
The city says at least a million New Yorkers are at risk, and has
drawn up plans to evacuate those within 10 blocks of the water. But
the city could have less warning than Texas or Louisiana, since
hurricanes move faster as they head northwards.
Experts are predicting still more hurricanes, in what could be the
worst year for the storms since records began. The US government's
official National Hurricane Center and scientists at Colorado State
University, who predicted both Katrina and Rita, expect several more
named storms in the remaining two months of the hurricane season. And
the World Meteorological Organisation believes that the record of 21,
set in 1933, may be beaten.
Some of these storms could hit the US, and experts say New York could
be the next city to be devastated. The area around the Big Apple is
listed by the Center as the fifth most vulnerable in the country,
after New Orleans, the Florida Keys, Tampa in Florida and Galveston in
Texas, all targeted by hurricanes in the past two years. Max Mayfield,
director of the Center, told Congress that Katrina "will not be the
last major hurricane to hit a vulnerable area, and New Orleans is not
the only location vulnerable to a large disaster from a land-falling
hurricane".
Local experts say that such a catastrophe is "inevitable", and the New
York City authorities warn that it could bring a 30ft-high storm surge
crashing into Manhattan.
The city says at least a million New Yorkers are at risk, and has
drawn up plans to evacuate those within 10 blocks of the water. But
the city could have less warning than Texas or Louisiana, since
hurricanes move faster as they head northwards.
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25 Sep 2005 01:40:57 PM |
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Implausible. New York City isn't built in a hole in the ground with
seawater above it. That difference is why New Orleans ended up so much
worse off than Mississippi.
No $4 to park! No $6 admission!
http://stores.ebay.com/INTERNET-GUN-SHOW
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25 Sep 2005 03:37:55 PM |
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<editor@netpath.net> wrote in message
news:1127673657.372648.210380@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Implausible. New York City isn't built in a hole in the ground with
seawater above it. That difference is why New Orleans ended up so much
worse off than Mississippi.
How about a Mega-tsunami instead...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/mega_tsunami.shtml
"What will happen when the volcano on La Palma collapses? Scientists predict
that it will generate a wave that will be almost inconceivably destructive,
far bigger than anything ever witnessed in modern times. It will surge
across the entire Atlantic in a matter of hours, engulfing the whole US east
coast, sweeping away everything in its path up to 20km inland. Boston would
be hit first, followed by New York, then all the way down the coast to Miami
and the Caribbean."
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25 Sep 2005 04:32:42 PM |
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In Re: Experts warn New York: you could be next(Major
Hurricane/30FT StormSurge) on Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:37:55 GMT, by
CWatters, we read:
<editor@netpath.net> wrote in message
news:1127673657.372648.210380@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Implausible. New York City isn't built in a hole in the ground with
seawater above it. That difference is why New Orleans ended up so much
worse off than Mississippi.
How about a Mega-tsunami instead...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/mega_tsunami.shtml
"What will happen when the volcano on La Palma collapses? Scientists predict
that it will generate a wave that will be almost inconceivably destructive,
far bigger than anything ever witnessed in modern times. It will surge
across the entire Atlantic in a matter of hours, engulfing the whole US east
coast, sweeping away everything in its path up to 20km inland. Boston would
be hit first, followed by New York, then all the way down the coast to Miami
and the Caribbean."
If a tsunami like the recent one in the Pacific were to hit
the east coast, NYC, Boston, Baltimore and other cities would be
devastated. The wall of water itself might reach 100 feet in some
places. The weight of this wall would cause extensive destruction
to ports and buildings. The canyons formed by tall buildings
would concentrate the water and maintain or increase its height
directing it throughout the cities. Underground structures
for utilities, water, sewage and transportation, key to the
operations of NYC and Boston, would be filled with seawater. This
corrosive water would not drain.
This tsunami would also roar up the Potomac River and swamp DC.
Points further south would have far less damage and fewer
mortalities.
Even with a 1 to 2 hour warning, relatively few would be able to
avoid it.
Only sure chance for escape would be by sea; head for deep water
in any direction; or by air.
Next best bet, a tall, sturdy building, with supplies for a
month.
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| User: "Phil" |
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25 Sep 2005 05:03:55 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:32:42 GMT, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>
wrote:
If a tsunami like the recent one in the Pacific were to hit
the east coast, NYC, Boston, Baltimore and other cities would be
devastated.
I would imagine that Long Island, Brooklyn and Queens would protect
Manhattan from such a wave.
Phil
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25 Sep 2005 05:28:29 PM |
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In Re: Experts warn New York: you could be next(Major
Hurricane/30FT StormSurge) on Sun, 25 Sep 2005 18:03:55 -0400, by
Phil, we read:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:32:42 GMT, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>
wrote:
If a tsunami like the recent one in the Pacific were to hit
the east coast, NYC, Boston, Baltimore and other cities would be
devastated.
I would imagine that Long Island, Brooklyn and Queens would protect
Manhattan from such a wave.
Right.
Great imagination.
Phil
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visit the New York City Homebrewers Guild website:
http://www.hbd.org/nychg
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| User: "Phil" |
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25 Sep 2005 06:01:28 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 22:28:29 GMT, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>
wrote:
In Re: Experts warn New York: you could be next(Major
Hurricane/30FT StormSurge) on Sun, 25 Sep 2005 18:03:55 -0400, by
Phil, we read:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:32:42 GMT, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>
wrote:
If a tsunami like the recent one in the Pacific were to hit
the east coast, NYC, Boston, Baltimore and other cities would be
devastated.
I would imagine that Long Island, Brooklyn and Queens would protect
Manhattan from such a wave.
Right.
Great imagination.
Great imagination? Look at a map.
Manhattan is an island surrounded by land. The tsunami that hit
Indonesia would not make it over LI, Queens and Brooklyn. I think
you're confusing the tsunami with "The Day After Tomorrow."
Phil
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http://www.hbd.org/nychg
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| User: "CWatters" |
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26 Sep 2005 02:06:23 AM |
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"Phil" <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote in message
news:8kaej19bmmmqe27730slg2n05v1r8253v8@4ax.com...
I would imagine that Long Island, Brooklyn and Queens would protect
Manhattan from such a wave.
Right.
Great imagination.
Great imagination? Look at a map.
Manhattan is an island surrounded by land. The tsunami that hit
Indonesia would not make it over LI, Queens and Brooklyn. I think
you're confusing the tsunami with "The Day After Tomorrow."
http://www.es.ucsc.edu/~ward/papers/La_Palma_grl.pdf
....the tsunami (10 m) first brush North America near Newfoundland.
Simultaneously, larger (15-20 m) waves arrive at the north
shore of South America. At 9 hours (Figure 4i), Florida faces
the tsunami, now parading in a dozen cycles or more. In 50 m
of water offshore Cape Canaveral, even after being weakened
by geometrical spreading and frequency dispersion, tsunami
from lateral collapses of the volume, dimension, and speed of
that expected at La Palma could retain 20-25 m height.
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26 Sep 2005 03:00:03 AM |
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In Re: Experts warn New York: you could be next(Major
Hurricane/30FT StormSurge) on Sun, 25 Sep 2005 19:01:28 -0400, by
Phil, we read:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 22:28:29 GMT, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>
wrote:
In Re: Experts warn New York: you could be next(Major
Hurricane/30FT StormSurge) on Sun, 25 Sep 2005 18:03:55 -0400, by
Phil, we read:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:32:42 GMT, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>
wrote:
If a tsunami like the recent one in the Pacific were to hit
the east coast, NYC, Boston, Baltimore and other cities would be
devastated.
I would imagine that Long Island, Brooklyn and Queens would protect
Manhattan from such a wave.
Right.
Great imagination.
Great imagination? Look at a map.
Manhattan is an island surrounded by land. The tsunami that hit
Indonesia would not make it over LI, Queens and Brooklyn. I think
you're confusing the tsunami with "The Day After Tomorrow."
An island surrounded by land?
What happened to the East River, the Harlem River, and the Hudson
River?
The wave is going to enter through the confluence of these
rivers and follow them upstream.
A waterway is the tsunami's highway. It's the path of least
resistance. The incoming pressure wave would push the waterwall
up the rivers and into Manhatten from three sides. The wall would
be remain relatively high because the rivers are shallow.
And, there could be multiple waves.
This is why Louisiana was flooded inland. The surge went up
the rivers and tributaries.
A plate shift and resulting quake of the scale suggested by the
poster would create the largest tsunami in history.
But even a smaller one would do a number on the eastern seaboard.
Phil
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http://www.hbd.org/nychg
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| User: "Phil" |
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26 Sep 2005 10:01:42 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:00:03 GMT, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>
wrote:
Manhattan is an island surrounded by land. The tsunami that hit
Indonesia would not make it over LI, Queens and Brooklyn. I think
you're confusing the tsunami with "The Day After Tomorrow."
An island surrounded by land?
What happened to the East River, the Harlem River, and the Hudson
River?
It's these rivers that make it an island. Unlike Hawaii, there are
other bodies of land surrounding Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, Staten
Island, the Bronx and New Jersey.
The wave is going to enter through the confluence of these
rivers and follow them upstream.
A waterway is the tsunami's highway. It's the path of least
resistance. The incoming pressure wave would push the waterwall
up the rivers and into Manhatten from three sides. The wall would
be remain relatively high because the rivers are shallow.
Manhattan is approachable by water from three different directions.
It's unlikely that a tsunami will hit Manhattan from all three sides,
especially when the Hudson River (north of Manhattan) isn't near the
ocean.
Phil
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27 Sep 2005 12:42:45 AM |
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In Re: Experts warn New York: you could be next(Major
Hurricane/30FT StormSurge) on Mon, 26 Sep 2005 23:01:42 -0400, by
Phil, we read:
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:00:03 GMT, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>
wrote:
Manhattan is an island surrounded by land. The tsunami that hit
Indonesia would not make it over LI, Queens and Brooklyn. I think
you're confusing the tsunami with "The Day After Tomorrow."
An island surrounded by land?
What happened to the East River, the Harlem River, and the Hudson
River?
It's these rivers that make it an island. Unlike Hawaii, there are
other bodies of land surrounding Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, Staten
Island, the Bronx and New Jersey.
The wave is going to enter through the confluence of these
rivers and follow them upstream.
A waterway is the tsunami's highway. It's the path of least
resistance. The incoming pressure wave would push the waterwall
up the rivers and into Manhatten from three sides. The wall would
be remain relatively high because the rivers are shallow.
Manhattan is approachable by water from three different directions.
It's unlikely that a tsunami will hit Manhattan from all three sides,
especially when the Hudson River (north of Manhattan) isn't near the
ocean.
OK.
Phil
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26 Sep 2005 06:23:32 AM |
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On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:00:03 GMT, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>
wrote:
Great imagination.
Great imagination? Look at a map.
Manhattan is an island surrounded by land. The tsunami that hit
Indonesia would not make it over LI, Queens and Brooklyn. I think
you're confusing the tsunami with "The Day After Tomorrow."
An island surrounded by land?
What happened to the East River, the Harlem River, and the Hudson
River?
The wave is going to enter through the confluence of these
rivers and follow them upstream.
A waterway is the tsunami's highway. It's the path of least
resistance. The incoming pressure wave would push the waterwall
up the rivers and into Manhatten from three sides. The wall would
be remain relatively high because the rivers are shallow.
And, there could be multiple waves.
This is why Louisiana was flooded inland. The surge went up
the rivers and tributaries.
A plate shift and resulting quake of the scale suggested by the
poster would create the largest tsunami in history.
But even a smaller one would do a number on the eastern seaboard.
You haven't looked at the map yet, have you? Here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Manhattan_Highlight_New_York_City_Map_Julius_Schorzman.png
Manhattan is a small island, surrounded by the Hudson, Harlem and East
rivers. On the other sides of these rivers are Brooklyn, Queens, the
Bronx, Staten Island, Long Island and the rest of the United States.
These bodies of land would be the buffer for your tsunamis.
Phil
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http://www.hbd.org/nychg
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| User: "slim" |
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26 Sep 2005 05:00:01 PM |
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Phil wrote:
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:00:03 GMT, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>
wrote:
Great imagination.
Great imagination? Look at a map.
Manhattan is an island surrounded by land. The tsunami that hit
Indonesia would not make it over LI, Queens and Brooklyn. I think
you're confusing the tsunami with "The Day After Tomorrow."
An island surrounded by land?
What happened to the East River, the Harlem River, and the Hudson
River?
The wave is going to enter through the confluence of these
rivers and follow them upstream.
A waterway is the tsunami's highway. It's the path of least
resistance. The incoming pressure wave would push the waterwall
up the rivers and into Manhatten from three sides. The wall would
be remain relatively high because the rivers are shallow.
And, there could be multiple waves.
This is why Louisiana was flooded inland. The surge went up
the rivers and tributaries.
A plate shift and resulting quake of the scale suggested by the
poster would create the largest tsunami in history.
But even a smaller one would do a number on the eastern seaboard.
You haven't looked at the map yet, have you? Here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Manhattan_Highlight_New_York_City_Map_Julius_Schorzman.png
Manhattan is a small island, surrounded by the Hudson, Harlem and East
rivers.
QUOTE THE DRUNK: "Manhattan is an island surrounded by land."
Game. Set. Match.
Oh Phil, you HAVE to stop drinking!!!!!
--
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link between 9/11 and Iraq, the answer is no."
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On May 01, 2003, President Bush declared that,
"Major combat operations in Iraq have ended."
"I'm the commander -- see, I don't need to explain --
I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the
interesting thing about being the president.
Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they
say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody
an explanation. "
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| User: "Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud" |
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03 Oct 2005 03:21:40 AM |
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Well, you people, when the next Hurricane strikes with wind gusts topping
the 350 km/h, you will be wondering what could that solution I have
discovered, which immediately curbs the strength of such mighty &
devastating phenomena !
I will give you some clues about that right now :
1) It's as easy to discover as the Great Sandy Desert Mines, one being the
Largest Gold Mine of Australia. Further still, unknown to the Newmont /
Newcrest, BHP & Boral Mining Criminals, probably of the world.
2) Once outlaid it will seem so evident, that people will say that this is
nothing finding it, just like those other rich mineral shows I never gave
away, such as the most famous Rooney Show by ex.( Telfer Twin )
Greedy but Dumb Australian Mining Companies have been looking for that one
for the last 30 years ... and will keep on going for that period of time
again, for sure ! .
3) It's as easy as well as to discover as those Cancer ( anyone of those
Cancer goodies by the way), Brain Tumour, AIDS etc dizzeazezz cures in 5
days flat, Arthritis, Arteriosclerosis will take a bit longer but within a
month at the most it will be over.
Once outlaid, those will be so evident too.
4) It 's as easy to understand as well the real reasons for the Kacherout,
which is indeed beyond the Goys' scope of understanding, although Kacherout
ver1.0 needs to be upgraded to Kacherout ver 2.0 ! ...since unknown to the
poor sods of the Chosen Race, they are turning into Goys too ! As all can
observe those fools are falling prey, just like the Goys indeed, to all
those dizzzeazzezzz I mentioned, as well as to all the others ! ( Goys =
Seed of Cattle ) Unfortunately although very easy to upgrade Kacherout from
ver 1.0 to ver 2.0, it still has to be found.
5) It is as evident as to discover the "Cyclonic Granulometric Pattern of
Pleistocene Sedimentology", explaining why the Deserts, the Eskers, the
Drumlins, the Erratics here, and the Loess or Peat deposits there.etc It
is a easy as to have worked out the UPL ( Universal Pressure Law), as corner
stone of the True Geology indeed
6) Since you are so prone to derisive & disparaging comments, as has been
the case for many years, you will find those immediate solutions on your
own.
Indeed it does not appear that the Australian Mining Criminals are wanting
to let go of their Crimes obtained bounty ! It does appear clearly that the
Australian Corrupt-to-the-core Political Class Rabble, such as those
blokes in charge Howard & Gallop, are comforting the lying-thieves in their
stand, as they have been over the last 30 years .
Good luck Mates !
With best but sorry regards
Note : Incidentally on the 14th of October next, will fall the 35 th
anniversary of the discovery of Telfer Mine.
--
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Exploration Geologist
Founder & Professor of the True Geology
~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
"slim" <pickin's@nyc.rr.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
43386F60.6A462ACF@nyc.rr.com...
Phil wrote:
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:00:03 GMT, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>
wrote:
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03 Oct 2005 07:01:26 AM |
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Oh, Jean-Paul, your intellectual splendifference enthralls me! To think
that someone enaged in mining could interface at a level above that of
a salamander boggles the mind! I want you, Jean-Paul. I need you!
How would you like to come join me here on my Texas ranch! I have an
old tornado magnet, er, trailer house ewe could stay in. Please,
Jean-Paul (is that your real name???) I want to have your love-child.
Preceding copyright (c) 2005 Stockbauer Nut Ranch, LLC. LLC in order
to accumulate vast quantites of WAD (Worthless American Dollars).
Thank you. Have a nice day. Address your issues.
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03 Oct 2005 01:39:54 PM |
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On 3 Oct 2005 05:01:26 -0700, wrote:
Oh, Jean-Paul, your intellectual splendifference enthralls me! To think
that someone enaged in mining could interface at a level above that of
a salamander boggles the mind! I want you, Jean-Paul. I need you!
How would you like to come join me here on my Texas ranch! I have an
old tornado magnet, er, trailer house ewe could stay in. Please,
Jean-Paul (is that your real name???) I want to have your love-child.
Preceding copyright (c) 2005 Stockbauer Nut Ranch, LLC. LLC in order
to accumulate vast quantites of WAD (Worthless American Dollars).
Thank you. Have a nice day. Address your issues.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!
Well done Sir..well done!
Gunner
Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to
clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are
so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry
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03 Oct 2005 04:41:45 PM |
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"Carole" <hubbca2003@yahoo.com.au> a écrit dans le message de news:
43414c85$0$19775$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
"Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud" <mining_pioneer@remove.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dhp5kr$qi2$1@apollon.grec.isp.9tel.net...
Reasonable people are like "good" / tepid people, that is without a
mind
of their own & completely clueless on our real past as well as on our
likely
future.
By jove, you make sense Jean-Paul.
People are so believing of anything an "expert" tells them and so reliant
on
"reliable information" coming out of the mass media and higher centres of
learning, whether it makes sense or not. It is practically an exercise in
futility going against anything that doesn't come from either of these
sources.
Talking about the past history of the world, there is one person who makes
it his life's work to investigate archaeology coverups from the past, and
that is Jonathan Gray. His website is http://www.archaeologyanswers.com
There are many anomalies and contradictions which conventional science
refuses to deal with.
One can only come to the conclusion that the truth is being hidden for
some
reason best known to the world controllers.
All the best
Carole
http://www.conspiracee.com
Hi Carole,
Yep, you are right and one of the reasons why the Goys are so readily
crawling in front of Sci000ntific Authorities is for their indulgence in
Animals corpses, in their offals and even in their blood. As a results it
gives to those poor Goys the minds of sheep, pigs, cow ( coward root)
chicken, since indeed as very few people in the world know, the root of our
Physical, Mental, Intellectual & Moral Being is in the Endocrinal system.
In clear, if one tampers with his own Endocrinal system or the one of this
children through the intake of the hormones contained in the blood of
animals, that ignorant is in fact sending signals ( hormones are signals) to
work along something which is not properly belonging to the Human genome !
but to the animal genome.
Hence the most approriate definition of the Chosen Race to call Goys ( Seed
of Cattle ) those who indulge in blood, and hence modifying their genetic
code ( and the ones of their children ) through the endocrinal interface.
Unfortunately Goys don't realise they are Goys since the normality _ as you
know _ is the what the majority consider as such.
It follows that any intelligent & superior approach to say the True Geology,
or the True Medecine i.e. preventive medecine, or True Economy etc , is met
by the carrion-feeding Goys with smiles of condescendence and disparaging
remarks !!!
.... while in fact the clueless sods are not even aware they are blind as
bats over the blinding reality
So pathetic !
With kindest regards to you.
--
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Exploration Geologist
Founder & Professor Emeritus of the True Geology
~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
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26 Sep 2005 10:05:41 AM |
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Phil wrote:
Manhattan is a small island, surrounded by the Hudson, Harlem and East
rivers. On the other sides of these rivers are Brooklyn, Queens, the
Bronx, Staten Island, Long Island and the rest of the United States.
These bodies of land would be the buffer for your tsunamis.
Actually, they'd more likely be the very thing that caused Manhattan to be
washed away. The simple physics you're failing to see is that as a wave
encounters shallower water it's height increases. That's why waves break on
shore, and not out to sea gnereally. Only a small amount of energy would be
absorbed by Manhattan's neighbors. Most of it would be reflected, with a
good portion channeled through the boundrary waterways and "amplified" as
it's constricted by those shallower, more narrow waterways.
--
Hand crafted on September 26, 2005 at 10:59:57 -0400
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
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| User: "slim" |
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26 Sep 2005 05:02:09 PM |
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"Jeffrey F. Bloss" wrote:
Phil wrote:
Manhattan is a small island, surrounded by the Hudson, Harlem and East
rivers. On the other sides of these rivers are Brooklyn, Queens, the
Bronx, Staten Island, Long Island and the rest of the United States.
These bodies of land would be the buffer for your tsunamis.
Actually, they'd more likely be the very thing that caused Manhattan to be
washed away. The simple physics you're failing to see is that as a wave
encounters shallower water it's height increases. That's why waves break on
shore, and not out to sea gnereally. Only a small amount of energy would be
absorbed by Manhattan's neighbors. Most of it would be reflected, with a
good portion channeled through the boundrary waterways and "amplified" as
it's constricted by those shallower, more narrow waterways.
Like I told Phil, its the tidal surge.
Phil still thinks tidal waves are like he sees in the movies.
--
Donald Rumsfeld: "If you're asking if there's a direct
link between 9/11 and Iraq, the answer is no."
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4865948/
On May 01, 2003, President Bush declared that,
"Major combat operations in Iraq have ended."
"I'm the commander -- see, I don't need to explain --
I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the
interesting thing about being the president.
Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they
say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody
an explanation. "
- George "Dubya" Bush
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| User: "Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud" |
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02 Oct 2005 07:12:24 PM |
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Well, you people, when the next Hurricane strikes with wind gusts topping
the 350 km/h, you will be wondering what could that solution I have
discovered, which immediately curbs the strength of such mighty &
devastating phenomena !
I will give you some clues about that right now :
1) It's as easy to discover as the Great Sandy Desert Mines, one being the
Largest Gold Mine of Australia. Further still, unknown to the Newmont /
Newcrest, BHP & Boral Mining Criminals, probably of the world.
2) Once outlaid it will seem so evident, that people will say that this is
nothing finding it, just like those other rich mineral shows I never gave
away, such as the most famous Rooney Show by ex.( Telfer Twin )
Greedy but Dumb Australian Mining Companies have been looking for that one
for the last 30 years ... and will keep on going for that period of time
again, for sure ! .
3) It's as easy as well as to discover as those Cancer ( anyone of those
Cancer goodies by the way), Brain Tumour, AIDS etc dizzeazezz cures in 5
days flat, Arthritis, Arteriosclerosis will take a bit longer but within a
month at the most it will be over.
Once outlaid, those will be so evident too.
4) It 's as easy to understand as well the real reasons for the Kacherout,
which is indeed beyond the Goys' scope of understanding, although Kacherout
ver1.0 needs to be upgraded to Kacherout ver 2.0 ! ...since unknown to the
poor sods of the Chosen Race, they are turning into Goys too ! As all can
observe those fools are falling prey, just like the Goys indeed, to all
those dizzzeazzezzz I mentioned, as well as to all the others ! ( Goys =
Seed of Cattle ) Unfortunately although very easy to upgrade Kacherout from
ver 1.0 to ver 2.0, it still has to be found.
5) It is as evident as to discover the "Cyclonic Granulometric Pattern of
Pleistocene Sedimentology", explaining why the Deserts, the Eskers, the
Drumlins, the Erratics here, and the Loess or Peat deposits there.etc It
is a easy as to have worked out the UPL ( Universal Pressure Law), as corner
stone of the True Geology indeed
6) Since you are so prone to derisive & disparaging comments, as has been
the case for many years, you will find those immediate solutions on your
own.
Indeed it does not appear that the Australian Mining Criminals are wanting
to let go of their Crimes obtained bounty ! It does appear clearly that the
Australian Corrupt-to-the-core Political Class Rabble, such as those
blokes in charge Howard & Gallop, are comforting the lying-thieves in their
stand, as they have been over the last 30 years .
Good luck Mates !
With best but sorry regards
Note : Incidentally on the 14th of October next, will fall the 35 th
anniversary of the discovery of Telfer Mine.
--
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Exploration Geologist
Founder of the True Geology
~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
"Real Friendly Neighborhood Vote Ranger" <yyyiiinnnggg@yahoo.com> a écrit
dans le message de news: dhpmuv$h7p$0@pita.alt.net...
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| User: "slim" |
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26 Sep 2005 04:58:51 PM |
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Phil wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 22:28:29 GMT, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>
wrote:
In Re: Experts warn New York: you could be next(Major
Hurricane/30FT StormSurge) on Sun, 25 Sep 2005 18:03:55 -0400, by
Phil, we read:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:32:42 GMT, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>
wrote:
If a tsunami like the recent one in the Pacific were to hit
the east coast, NYC, Boston, Baltimore and other cities would be
devastated.
I would imagine that Long Island, Brooklyn and Queens would protect
Manhattan from such a wave.
Right.
Great imagination.
Great imagination? Look at a map.
Manhattan is an island surrounded by land.
<giggle> Sure it is.
--
Donald Rumsfeld: "If you're asking if there's a direct
link between 9/11 and Iraq, the answer is no."
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4865948/
On May 01, 2003, President Bush declared that,
"Major combat operations in Iraq have ended."
"I'm the commander -- see, I don't need to explain --
I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the
interesting thing about being the president.
Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they
say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody
an explanation. "
- George "Dubya" Bush
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| User: "slim" |
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26 Sep 2005 04:34:02 PM |
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Phil wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:32:42 GMT, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>
wrote:
If a tsunami like the recent one in the Pacific were to hit
the east coast, NYC, Boston, Baltimore and other cities would be
devastated.
I would imagine that Long Island, Brooklyn and Queens would protect
Manhattan from such a wave.
More of a tidal surge than a wave, Phil.
The "huge cresting tidal wave" is more myth than reality.
Most tsunami's are actualy tidal surges which can come many miles inland,
depending on the terrain. Now if you were to exit the East Broadway station
in Manhattan, you would see that the intersection of Rutgers Street and
East Broadway is quite elevated from the East River. That section of
Lower Manhattan might be spared, but the lowlands on the west side
would be gone.
--
Donald Rumsfeld: "If you're asking if there's a direct
link between 9/11 and Iraq, the answer is no."
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4865948/
On May 01, 2003, President Bush declared that,
"Major combat operations in Iraq have ended."
"I'm the commander -- see, I don't need to explain --
I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the
interesting thing about being the president.
Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they
say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody
an explanation. "
- George "Dubya" Bush
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| User: "Moderate Mammal" |
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25 Sep 2005 06:33:48 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:32:42 GMT, Strabo <strabo@flashlight.net>
wrote:
In Re: Experts warn New York: you could be next(Major
Hurricane/30FT StormSurge) on Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:37:55 GMT, by
CWatters, we read:
<editor@netpath.net> wrote in message
news:1127673657.372648.210380@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Implausible. New York City isn't built in a hole in the ground with
seawater above it. That difference is why New Orleans ended up so much
worse off than Mississippi.
How about a Mega-tsunami instead...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/mega_tsunami.shtml
"What will happen when the volcano on La Palma collapses? Scientists predict
that it will generate a wave that will be almost inconceivably destructive,
far bigger than anything ever witnessed in modern times. It will surge
across the entire Atlantic in a matter of hours, engulfing the whole US east
coast, sweeping away everything in its path up to 20km inland. Boston would
be hit first, followed by New York, then all the way down the coast to Miami
and the Caribbean."
If a tsunami like the recent one in the Pacific were to hit
the east coast, NYC, Boston, Baltimore and other cities would be
devastated. The wall of water itself might reach 100 feet in some
places. The weight of this wall would cause extensive destruction
to ports and buildings. The canyons formed by tall buildings
would concentrate the water and maintain or increase its height
directing it throughout the cities. Underground structures
for utilities, water, sewage and transportation, key to the
operations of NYC and Boston, would be filled with seawater. This
corrosive water would not drain.
This tsunami would also roar up the Potomac River and swamp DC.
Finally, some good news..<snort>
Points further south would have far less damage and fewer
mortalities.
Even with a 1 to 2 hour warning, relatively few would be able to
avoid it.
That would give me enough time to drive up top the Watchung Mountain
Range being 36 miles WSW of NYC.
Only sure chance for escape would be by sea; head for deep water
in any direction; or by air.
I wonder how far from say..the New Jersey Shore for example one would
have to their boat to sea in order to escape the Tsunami.
--
Keith
Next best bet, a tall, sturdy building, with supplies for a
month.
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| User: "CWatters" |
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26 Sep 2005 01:28:01 PM |
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"Moderate Mammal" <BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net> wrote in message
news:mqaej11bajk87tbjnud7jq2rvap0jvcftq@4ax.com...
Even with a 1 to 2 hour warning, relatively few would be able to
avoid it.
That would give me enough time to drive up top the Watchung Mountain
Range being 36 miles WSW of NYC.
I'm not aware of a warning system? What does the siren sound like?
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| User: "Moderate Mammal" |
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26 Sep 2005 04:05:21 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:28:01 GMT, "CWatters"
<colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote:
"Moderate Mammal" <BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net> wrote in message
news:mqaej11bajk87tbjnud7jq2rvap0jvcftq@4ax.com...
Even with a 1 to 2 hour warning, relatively few would be able to
avoid it.
That would give me enough time to drive up top the Watchung Mountain
Range being 36 miles WSW of NYC.
I'm not aware of a warning system? What does the siren sound like?
Are there no warning systems in place in the Atlantic similar to the
ones in the Pacific?
--
Keith
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| User: "CWatters" |
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27 Sep 2005 03:11:31 AM |
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"Moderate Mammal" <BunnERabbit@verizon.hutch.net> wrote in message
news:6hogj195i3mqg5odblpr74bkohor0lum81@4ax.com...
Are there no warning systems in place in the Atlantic similar to the
ones in the Pacific?
Not according to...
http://www.oceansatlas.com/unatlas/issues/emergencies/tsunamis/tsunami.htm
"Outside the Pacific, no tsunami warning systems or centres exist, although
the tsunami hazard exists on both sides of the Atlantic Ocean, in the
eastern Indian Ocean, and in the Mediterranean, Caribbean and Black Seas. In
some of these regions, efforts have already been launched for the
establishment of warning systems in these areas. ICG/ITSU provides
information and guidance, and shares knowledge and experience with the IOC
Member States of these regions."
but..
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/nj06_pallone/pr_dec30_tsunami_atlantic_legislation.html
"PALLONE TO INTRODUCE LEGISLATION TO CREATE TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER FOR
ATLANTIC OCEAN"
I believe it takes quite a time to actually detect a Tsunami and get the
warning out - that might burn up an hour or more. I can't imagine how they
could evacuate NY in a few hours. The transport system couldn't cope.
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| User: "Dave Liquorice" |
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26 Sep 2005 03:57:22 AM |
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 23:33:48 GMT, Moderate Mammal wrote:
Even with a 1 to 2 hour warning, relatively few would be able to
avoid it.
That would give me enough time to drive up top the Watchung Mountain
Range being 36 miles WSW of NYC.
That is driving under normal conditions. Not when every man, woman and
their dog is also trying to make a dash for the hills... Look at the
jams in Texas late last week and that was fairlry orderly and people
could have waited 24 or 36 hrs without endangering their lives at all.
Only sure chance for escape would be by sea; head for deep water
in any direction; or by air.
I wonder how far from say..the New Jersey Shore for example one
would have to their boat to sea in order to escape the Tsunami.
Depending on how the seabed shelves, not that far. A boat will ride
what is not much more than a long wave length swell out at sea.
Remember tsunami are not "waves" in the conventional sense, they are
the whole body of water moving, more like a tide.
--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail
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26 Sep 2005 06:10:21 AM |
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Maresy doats,
And dozey doats,
And liddle lambsy divey,
A kiddly-divey too,
Wouldn't you???????
"Mommy, why are the Earthlings worried about the survival of
Humanity???? After all, there's 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 other
solar systems in the Universe out to the causal horizon, and then
perhaps an actualized infinity more beyond it. There's plenty others
to take their place and carry on with the task of propagating the ever
higher brain-like organization of matter onward - the Earth is but an
insignificant nothingness."
"Yes, Lil darling, you are right. Now, get some sleep and dream of
rock and roll."
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| User: "Strabo" |
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25 Sep 2005 04:10:24 PM |
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In Re: Experts warn New York: you could be next(Major
Hurricane/30FT StormSurge) on 25 Sep 2005 11:40:57 -0700, by
editor@netpath.net, we read:
Implausible. New York City isn't built in a hole in the ground with
seawater above it. That difference is why New Orleans ended up so much
worse off than Mississippi.
New Orleans is not worse off. It's ifrastructure and utilities
are intact and it's commercial areas have minor damage.
The lowest areas that were flooded will not impede starting up
the city.
New Orleans could be up and running in a week if the levee
problem were fixed. The levee problem is simple but expensive
and time consuming. Hurricane season is about over so operations
can begin. Temporary fixes will be done in a couple of weeks.
The city will then reopen for business. The permanent
installation should be completed by next summer.
Once new and proper water control is in place, evacuations will
not be necessary.
Along the Mississippi/Alabama coast, most homes, businesses and
many towns were LEVELED. It will take several years for a cleanup
and rebuilding.
No $4 to park! No $6 admission!
http://stores.ebay.com/INTERNET-GUN-SHOW
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| User: "St. John Smythe" |
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| Title: Re: Experts warn New York: you could be next(Major Hurricane/30FTStormSurge) |
25 Sep 2005 04:30:02 PM |
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Strabo wrote:
Once new and proper water control is in place, evacuations will
not be necessary.
Along the Mississippi/Alabama coast, most homes, businesses and
many towns were LEVELED. It will take several years for a cleanup
and rebuilding.
Do you see any inconsistency at all between those two paragraphs?
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| User: "Strabo" |
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25 Sep 2005 05:27:17 PM |
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In Re: Experts warn New York: you could be next(Major
Hurricane/30FT StormSurge) on Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:30:02 GMT, by
St. John Smythe, we read:
Strabo wrote:
Once new and proper water control is in place, evacuations will
not be necessary.
Along the Mississippi/Alabama coast, most homes, businesses and
many towns were LEVELED. It will take several years for a cleanup
and rebuilding.
Do you see any inconsistency at all between those two paragraphs?
Why did you take the first out of context? It
refers to New Orleans.
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