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"Quantum_Ranger" |
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21 Apr 2006 07:29:43 PM |
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Extra "Higher" Dimensions? |
Some stringtheory models have extra-dimensions, if there were extra
dimensions, 5th..6th etc..etc. then what would be the consequence for
the Periodic Table?
Surely a Water Molecule cannot exist outside of its base structure of
3-D? If a water molecule can be prooved to exist outside this stable
dimension, then life cannot exist in any Parallel Universe, or
specifically life cannot exist where a Water Molecule cannot exist?
I know the Many World theory purports to the existence of "other"
dimensions, but logically life cannot exist anywhere a Water molecule,
and the rest of the companion elements such as the Periodic Table.
Other dimensions, must have an exact copy of our 3-D Periodic Table
surely?..I mean what would the elemental table of a 5th Dimension look
like?
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Extra "Higher" Dimensions? |
21 Apr 2006 08:05:54 PM |
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Quantum_Ranger wrote:
Some stringtheory models have extra-dimensions, if there were extra
dimensions, 5th..6th etc..etc. then what would be the consequence for
the Periodic Table?
Surely a Water Molecule cannot exist outside of its base structure of
3-D? If a water molecule can be prooved to exist outside this stable
dimension, then life cannot exist in any Parallel Universe, or
specifically life cannot exist where a Water Molecule cannot exist?
I know the Many World theory purports to the existence of "other"
dimensions, but logically life cannot exist anywhere a Water molecule,
and the rest of the companion elements such as the Periodic Table.
Other dimensions, must have an exact copy of our 3-D Periodic Table
surely?..I mean what would the elemental table of a 5th Dimension look
like?
In the observable universe, we find ourselves in three spatial
dimension and one time dimensions. If there are more, they are
"curled up". Many phenomena happen in three spatial dimensions
that don't happen in more or fewer dimensions. For example stable
planetary orbits, atoms and chemistry.
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| User: "Quantum_Ranger" |
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| Title: Re: Extra "Higher" Dimensions? |
24 Apr 2006 01:46:51 AM |
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Sam, I see you are stating 'No' to the question I posed, or
specifically if there is combination of Hydrogen and Oxygen either in
compacted or extended dimensions then, observation is zero?
Ok, so if there exists, in mathematical models of extended and
compactified dimensions, a process of "structure re-combination", say
in the process of water H2O, then any person in the 5th Dimension
regardless of its geometric paramiters, would view Water Molecule as an
observer/interacter in the/our 3+1 Dimension?
There is no difference, except that an observer in 3+1 Dimension can
drink a glass of water, but cannot drink water from any other
Dimension?..conversely any entity existing in "other" dimensions cannot
have access to "other" dimensional molecules? Quite Logical, except
that, Observers or MATTER cannot interact outside of their dimensional
existence.
Therefore, I conclude that the Many World Theory, StringTheory, and to
some extent Brane Theory CANNOT be anything existing outside our 3+1
Universe?..I am sitting here drinking a glass of water, to those that
cannot see/observe me in my own spacetime, I am theoretically existing
in either a "curled-up" or "extended" dimension!
Every act of observation is governed by local dimensional constraints,
Lisa Randall can perform any number of Mathematical "Brane"
permutations, and unless She actually observes the functions "locally",
then one cannot provide proof?..to proove the existence of Branes, one
has to be physically there, in whatever dimension the model dictates?
Any physically thing in existence, can be out of "Eyeshot", beyond a
physical horizon, such as a glass of water sitting on YOUR desk is out
of my observational frame of reference, to me it just as well be in a
"curled-up" or 5th Dimension, it is equivelent to the MWT from my
perspective. I can ask you to dynamically travel to my location,
bringing the glass of water with you, it constantly remains in the 3+1
spacetime, and you could theoretically explain that you have brought
the glass from the 5th Dimension, and I would have to conclude that to
be Anthropically "True", although the Water Molecule would NOT retain
any evidence to confirm this statement from you.
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| User: "Quantum_Ranger" |
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| Title: Re: Extra "Higher" Dimensions? |
24 Apr 2006 01:53:01 AM |
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Missing concluding remark:I can ask you to dynamically travel to my
location,
bringing the glass of water with you, it constantly remains in the 3+1
spacetime, and you could theoretically explain that you have brought
the glass from the 5th Dimension, and I would have to conclude that to
be Anthropically "True", although the Water Molecule would NOT retain
any evidence to confirm this statement from you?...but having taken a
sip of water from the glas you bring, I can confirm that your statement
that you brought it from the 5th dimension to be false!..if it
originated in the 5th dimension, I could not interact with it!
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| User: "Quantum_Ranger" |
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| Title: Re: Extra "Higher" Dimensions? |
21 Apr 2006 08:36:40 PM |
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So are you telling me it is possible that Water, and therefore Biology
can exist in a "curled up" dimension?..are there people/life in "them
atoms" ?
Give me a glass of water via any "other dimension", and I will proove I
am God.
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Extra "Higher" Dimensions? |
21 Apr 2006 09:27:05 PM |
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Quantum_Ranger wrote:
So are you telling me it is possible that Water, and therefore Biology
can exist in a "curled up" dimension?..are there people/life in "them
atoms" ?
Here's what I wrote:
In the observable universe, we find ourselves in three spatial
dimension and one time dimensions. If there are more, they are
"curled up". Many phenomena happen in three spatial dimensions
that don't happen in more or fewer dimensions. For example stable
planetary orbits, atoms and chemistry.
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| User: "Quantum_Ranger" |
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| Title: Re: Extra "Higher" Dimensions? |
21 Apr 2006 08:42:37 PM |
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Should be:Give me a glass of water via any "other dimension" and I will
proove YOU are God, and I am Socrates!
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| User: "Bishop" |
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| Title: Re: Extra "Higher" Dimensions? |
21 Apr 2006 08:51:40 PM |
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Quantum_Ranger wrote:
Should be:Give me a glass of water via any "other dimension" and I will
proove YOU are God, and I am Socrates!
Yes. This is exactly what the Reptilians can do. They can manipulate
Randall infinite extra dimensions via portals and other technology.
So yes, they can make a glass of water to pass into and from
the extra large dimensions making it appear like the glass of water
just materialized right before your eyes. See this page.
http://www.alienlovebite.com/main.htm
The researcher is a victim of Reptilians and have seen what you
stated. She has her reptlilians captive opened a portal right in
her living room where she can peek into the extra dimensions
thru some kind of singularity or horizon stabilizer. But rather than
that proving they are Gods. It's just sometimes advanced technology
is indistinguisable from magic as Arthur Clarke once said.
Now what can the scientists do. Brilliant as they are, their brains
have become mere computers (caused by the "shut up and
calculate" formalism of science) and blind to other realities. This
is why you don't hear about this en masses in the public because
they are controlled by the zombies of science.
Bishop
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| User: "Bishop" |
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| Title: Re: Extra "Higher" Dimensions? |
21 Apr 2006 08:33:03 PM |
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Quantum_Ranger wrote:
Some stringtheory models have extra-dimensions, if there were extra
dimensions, 5th..6th etc..etc. then what would be the consequence for
the Periodic Table?
Surely a Water Molecule cannot exist outside of its base structure of
3-D? If a water molecule can be prooved to exist outside this stable
dimension, then life cannot exist in any Parallel Universe, or
specifically life cannot exist where a Water Molecule cannot exist?
I know the Many World theory purports to the existence of "other"
dimensions, but logically life cannot exist anywhere a Water molecule,
and the rest of the companion elements such as the Periodic Table.
Other dimensions, must have an exact copy of our 3-D Periodic Table
surely?..I mean what would the elemental table of a 5th Dimension look
like?
Most of the String's extra dimensions are compactified or tiny..
except the Randall infinite dimesions where your conjecture can
hold.
Now why do you think extra dimensional beings (if they existed)
would need water. They could take on other exotic elements not found
on our 3D world. It's even possible their food is a form of energy.
Some believe humans were manipulated since the dawn of time
in order that these extra dimensional beings can harvest the
energies we form during suffering, pain, hatred. Familiar with
the bible offering of blood to the gods? In fact, there were so many
victims who claim just this. The extra dimensional beings were
called the Reptilians. Their food is the negative energies produced
by our emotions... this is why they continue to influence histories
making sure blood and violence is the norm of our civilizations. See:
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/dracos.html
http://www.angelfire.com/nm2/aona/james.html
I am acquainted with some of these Reptilian abductees including
the author above who faced the greatest suffering in their midst so
I know what they have gone through. Scientists can't help
them because most of our scientists have since close their
eyes to other realities. They have been made zombies by
the Copenhagen team who have raised generations of
scientists whose only goal in life is to shut up and calculate. So
unless the reptlians would speak about integrals and partial
differential equations. Scientists can't see them even if the
reptilians are already standing in their path.
Bishop
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| User: "Quantum_Ranger" |
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| Title: Re: Extra "Higher" Dimensions? |
21 Apr 2006 08:49:29 PM |
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"Scientists can't see them even if the
reptilians are already standing in their path." You mean swimming in
thier Path I ntegral surely?
Lisa Randall's objective view (I assume its Her's, your handwaving me
to) is as far as I can tell, all Brane's and no Brawn?
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| User: "Bishop" |
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| Title: Re: Extra "Higher" Dimensions? |
21 Apr 2006 08:56:04 PM |
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Quantum_Ranger wrote:
"Scientists can't see them even if the
reptilians are already standing in their path." You mean swimming in
thier Path I ntegral surely?
Lisa Randall's objective view (I assume its Her's, your handwaving me
to) is as far as I can tell, all Brane's and no Brawn?
Before there is Randall. Scientists only believed in extra compactified
large dimensions. Randall stuff is just the beginning. Maybe in a few
decades. Scientists can begin to unravel and probe the extra
large dimensions.. beginning with the Large Hadron Collider getting
online next year which can do a tiny probing of it. In time, scientists
can slowly get to face the Reptilians on the other side. But if our
particle accelerators don't have energies to probe the other side
which may be close to planck scale energies and super physics.
Then the extra large dimensions which the Reptilians can access
would be forever close to humanity's scientists. Let's pray for
the best and expect the unexpected.
Bishop
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| User: "Mike Jr." |
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| Title: Re: Extra "Higher" Dimensions? |
21 Apr 2006 07:33:55 PM |
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Quantum_Ranger wrote:
Some stringtheory models have extra-dimensions, if there were extra
dimensions, 5th..6th etc..etc. then what would be the consequence for
the Periodic Table?
Surely a Water Molecule cannot exist outside of its base structure of
3-D? If a water molecule can be prooved to exist outside this stable
dimension, then life cannot exist in any Parallel Universe, or
specifically life cannot exist where a Water Molecule cannot exist?
I know the Many World theory purports to the existence of "other"
dimensions, but logically life cannot exist anywhere a Water molecule,
and the rest of the companion elements such as the Periodic Table.
Other dimensions, must have an exact copy of our 3-D Periodic Table
surely?..I mean what would the elemental table of a 5th Dimension look
like?
Try either very much smaller than the diameter of a proton or that
water molecule being stuck to a 3-D "brane".
--Best regards,
--Mike Jr.
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| User: "Quantum_Ranger" |
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| Title: Re: Extra "Higher" Dimensions? |
21 Apr 2006 07:46:08 PM |
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Forgive me, are you stating that a water molecule [H2-O] can exist, or
be decomposed into another geometric dimension?..a 3-D brane, and
correct me if I am way off in my interpretation, would be part of
another "partner" brane, < or >?
A close friend of mine went over Her Head and done a silly thing, she
bought a copy of New Scientist issue 8th April 06, apparently because
of the cover, it had a picture glass of water, with the headline "You
need it but won't believe why", she is a fitness fanatic and basically
"Stepped outside Her Box" by purchasing NS.
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