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Firefighters at the site of WTC7 "Move away the building is going to blow up, get back the building is going to blow up." |
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In order to appreciate just what Truthers are talking about when they
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03 May 2007 07:36:12 AM |
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On 2 May 2007 20:10:20 -0700, Midex <jbmccrann@gmail.com> wrote:
LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES
Trying to understand the World Trade Center events is like waking up
to act fifteen of a long Greek Tragedy. It needs a complex fabric of
description to give a full picture. In explaining this crisis, we will
be showing how the situation rests on layers of historical
developments, layers of crises and solutions.
shamelessly taken from:
http://www.againstsleepandnightmare.com/ASAN/ASAN7/ASAN7.html
The World After September 11th, 2001
The Old Mole
By the time you read this, a crisis different from September 11th may
well be foremost in people's minds. Read on. For us today, all the
crises merge to one and we can see the form of Enron's Collapse or the
Iraq War within September 11th and vice-versa. Now, beyond the death
and destruction, the horror of an event like September 11th is the
horror of losing control of your world. This feeling is an extension
of the ordinary experience of being a resident of modern capitalist
society. Here, work, commuting, shopping, and television are
transmitted to you in ways that are beyond any individual or
collective control.
Damn good read.
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04 May 2007 05:26:17 AM |
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default wrote:
On 2 May 2007 20:10:20 -0700, Midex <jbmccrann@gmail.com> wrote:
LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES
Trying to understand the World Trade Center events is like waking up
to act fifteen of a long Greek Tragedy. It needs a complex fabric of
description to give a full picture. In explaining this crisis, we will
be showing how the situation rests on layers of historical
developments, layers of crises and solutions.
shamelessly taken from:
http://www.againstsleepandnightmare.com/ASAN/ASAN7/ASAN7.html
The World After September 11th, 2001
The Old Mole
By the time you read this, a crisis different from September 11th may
well be foremost in people's minds. Read on. For us today, all the
crises merge to one and we can see the form of Enron's Collapse or the
Iraq War within September 11th and vice-versa. Now, beyond the death
and destruction, the horror of an event like September 11th is the
horror of losing control of your world. This feeling is an extension
of the ordinary experience of being a resident of modern capitalist
society. Here, work, commuting, shopping, and television are
transmitted to you in ways that are beyond any individual or
collective control.
Damn good read.
Marxist trash.
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| User: "default" |
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| Title: Re: Firefighters at the site of WTC7 "Move away the building is going to blow up, get back the building is going to blow up." |
04 May 2007 08:16:20 AM |
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On Fri, 04 May 2007 03:26:17 -0700, James Stroud
<jstroud@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
default wrote:
On 2 May 2007 20:10:20 -0700, Midex <jbmccrann@gmail.com> wrote:
LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES
Trying to understand the World Trade Center events is like waking up
to act fifteen of a long Greek Tragedy. It needs a complex fabric of
description to give a full picture. In explaining this crisis, we will
be showing how the situation rests on layers of historical
developments, layers of crises and solutions.
shamelessly taken from:
http://www.againstsleepandnightmare.com/ASAN/ASAN7/ASAN7.html
The World After September 11th, 2001
The Old Mole
By the time you read this, a crisis different from September 11th may
well be foremost in people's minds. Read on. For us today, all the
crises merge to one and we can see the form of Enron's Collapse or the
Iraq War within September 11th and vice-versa. Now, beyond the death
and destruction, the horror of an event like September 11th is the
horror of losing control of your world. This feeling is an extension
of the ordinary experience of being a resident of modern capitalist
society. Here, work, commuting, shopping, and television are
transmitted to you in ways that are beyond any individual or
collective control.
Damn good read.
Marxist trash.
We've been conditioned to think in those terms and the web site is
communist. The philosophy of communism isn't so bad, it is the people
and application that are the problem.
Capitalism works right out of the box then begins to fray and
deteriorate - again due to people and application. Either system
creates an elite class and poor class with little or no middle ground.
Each system is, ultimately, a failure.
I'm not advocating either system, both are flawed as long as people
can gain and hold power. Somewhere in there is a solution to the
problems - I wouldn't presume to know the right course.
Our politicians presume to know the right course - but they have no
idea what is happening in the real world just their own political
world.
We have a mix of socialism and capitalism in the US no matter what the
government/media hype says it is. Free market capitalism? hardly.
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| Title: Re: Firefighters at the site of WTC7 "Move away the building is goingto blow up, get back the building is going to blow up." |
04 May 2007 02:32:13 PM |
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default wrote:
On Fri, 04 May 2007 03:26:17 -0700, James Stroud
<jstroud@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
default wrote:
On 2 May 2007 20:10:20 -0700, Midex <jbmccrann@gmail.com> wrote:
LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES
Trying to understand the World Trade Center events is like waking up
to act fifteen of a long Greek Tragedy. It needs a complex fabric of
description to give a full picture. In explaining this crisis, we will
be showing how the situation rests on layers of historical
developments, layers of crises and solutions.
shamelessly taken from:
http://www.againstsleepandnightmare.com/ASAN/ASAN7/ASAN7.html
The World After September 11th, 2001
<clip>
Damn good read.
Marxist trash.
We've been conditioned to think in those terms and the web site is
communist. The philosophy of communism isn't so bad, it is the people
and application that are the problem.
Capitalism works right out of the box then begins to fray and
deteriorate - again due to people and application. Either system
creates an elite class and poor class with little or no middle ground.
Each system is, ultimately, a failure.
I'm not advocating either system, both are flawed as long as people
can gain and hold power. Somewhere in there is a solution to the
problems - I wouldn't presume to know the right course.
The Marxist contribution to western thought is that it put everything in
terms of labor and thus allowed us to quantify the human component of
economies. Though insightful, these insights were made 100 years ago and
are really only helpful in a sociological context. To attempt to turn
Marxist philosophy and insight into an economic policy is flawed because
economies are driven by greed. No policy will eliminate the greed, so it
is better to make policies that allow competition for resources (even
labor) fair. Marxism consolidates economic power into the hands of
government officials, who are the most greedy, and thus it ends up
siphoning wealth from the laborers who produce it in total contradiction
to its goals. That has been shown to be the reality despite the ideology.
Yes, the current global economic model is based on fascism, which is
unfortunate, but Marxism and the communism that arises from it are not
better alternatives--so it is better to identify Marxist economics as
the trash it is than to allow the unwitting to get confused about how
the greedy would end up applying it.
James
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| User: "MooseFET" |
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| Title: Re: Firefighters at the site of WTC7 "Move away the building is going to blow up, get back the building is going to blow up." |
04 May 2007 08:52:12 PM |
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On May 4, 12:32 pm, James Stroud <jstr...@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
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The Marxist contribution to western thought is that it put everything in
terms of labor and thus allowed us to quantify the human component of
economies.
No the great insight by Marx was in the selling of ducks. "Anybody
want to buy a duct" has done more to advance economic thinking than
the works of most economists.
Economists have a vested interest in preventing people from
understanding economics. They are well paid and know that they
wouldn't be for long if people really understood what was going on.
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| User: "James Stroud" |
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04 May 2007 10:19:33 PM |
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MooseFET wrote:
On May 4, 12:32 pm, James Stroud <jstr...@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
[....]
The Marxist contribution to western thought is that it put everything in
terms of labor and thus allowed us to quantify the human component of
economies.
No the great insight by Marx was in the selling of ducks. "Anybody
want to buy a duct" has done more to advance economic thinking than
the works of most economists.
Economists have a vested interest in preventing people from
understanding economics. They are well paid and know that they
wouldn't be for long if people really understood what was going on.
You must be an economist because you provide absolutely no
interpretation of what the hell you were saying in ghe first paragraph
(as if you actually know what you were trying to say). Duct or duck,
first of all. Second of all--make a point.
James
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| User: "Charles" |
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04 May 2007 10:46:17 PM |
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On Fri, 04 May 2007 20:19:33 -0700, James Stroud
<jstroud@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
MooseFET wrote:
On May 4, 12:32 pm, James Stroud <jstr...@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
[....]
The Marxist contribution to western thought is that it put everything in
terms of labor and thus allowed us to quantify the human component of
economies.
No the great insight by Marx was in the selling of ducks. "Anybody
want to buy a duct" has done more to advance economic thinking than
the works of most economists.
Economists have a vested interest in preventing people from
understanding economics. They are well paid and know that they
wouldn't be for long if people really understood what was going on.
You must be an economist because you provide absolutely no
interpretation of what the hell you were saying in ghe first paragraph
(as if you actually know what you were trying to say). Duct or duck,
first of all. Second of all--make a point.
James
Different Marx?
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| User: "James Stroud" |
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05 May 2007 12:25:14 AM |
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Charles wrote:
On Fri, 04 May 2007 20:19:33 -0700, James Stroud
<jstroud@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
MooseFET wrote:
On May 4, 12:32 pm, James Stroud <jstr...@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
[....]
The Marxist contribution to western thought is that it put everything in
terms of labor and thus allowed us to quantify the human component of
economies.
No the great insight by Marx was in the selling of ducks. "Anybody
want to buy a duct" has done more to advance economic thinking than
the works of most economists.
Economists have a vested interest in preventing people from
understanding economics. They are well paid and know that they
wouldn't be for long if people really understood what was going on.
You must be an economist because you provide absolutely no
interpretation of what the hell you were saying in ghe first paragraph
(as if you actually know what you were trying to say). Duct or duck,
first of all. Second of all--make a point.
James
Different Marx?
Oh, so Curly of the 3 stooges did more to advance physics when a vase
fell on his head than all of the physics books written? Physicists don't
really want you to know whats going on so they can get paid more. Oh,
yes, I'm doing more for computer science by saying x=y than all of the
computer books written. Knuth, eat your heart out, see how smart I am?
James
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| User: "MooseFET" |
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05 May 2007 01:20:41 AM |
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On May 4, 8:19 pm, James Stroud <jstr...@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
MooseFET wrote:
On May 4, 12:32 pm, James Stroud <jstr...@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
[....]
The Marxist contribution to western thought is that it put everything in
terms of labor and thus allowed us to quantify the human component of
economies.
No the great insight by Marx was in the selling of ducks. "Anybody
want to buy a duct" has done more to advance economic thinking than
the works of most economists.
Economists have a vested interest in preventing people from
understanding economics. They are well paid and know that they
wouldn't be for long if people really understood what was going on.
You must be an economist because you provide absolutely no
interpretation of what the hell you were saying in ghe first paragraph
(as if you actually know what you were trying to say). Duct or duck,
first of all. Second of all--make a point.
Groucho Marx.
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05 May 2007 04:33:08 AM |
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In article <1178346041.557106.129670@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
MooseFET <kensmith@rahul.net> wrote:
On May 4, 8:19 pm, James Stroud <jstr...@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
MooseFET wrote:
On May 4, 12:32 pm, James Stroud <jstr...@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
[....]
The Marxist contribution to western thought is that it put everything in
terms of labor and thus allowed us to quantify the human component of
economies.
No the great insight by Marx was in the selling of ducks. "Anybody
want to buy a duct" has done more to advance economic thinking than
the works of most economists.
Economists have a vested interest in preventing people from
understanding economics. They are well paid and know that they
wouldn't be for long if people really understood what was going on.
You must be an economist because you provide absolutely no
interpretation of what the hell you were saying in ghe first paragraph
(as if you actually know what you were trying to say). Duct or duck,
first of all. Second of all--make a point.
Groucho Marx.
Give that man a cigar.
/BAH
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05 May 2007 07:45:39 AM |
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wrote:
In article <1178346041.557106.129670@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
MooseFET <kensmith@rahul.net> wrote:
On May 4, 8:19 pm, James Stroud <jstr...@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
MooseFET wrote:
Groucho Marx.
Give that man a cigar.
/BAH
Please take note aspiring humorists, we have here an actual example of
humor.
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| User: "James Stroud" |
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05 May 2007 01:37:11 AM |
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MooseFET wrote:
On May 4, 8:19 pm, James Stroud <jstr...@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
MooseFET wrote:
On May 4, 12:32 pm, James Stroud <jstr...@mbi.ucla.edu> wrote:
[....]
The Marxist contribution to western thought is that it put everything in
terms of labor and thus allowed us to quantify the human component of
economies.
No the great insight by Marx was in the selling of ducks. "Anybody
want to buy a duct" has done more to advance economic thinking than
the works of most economists.
Economists have a vested interest in preventing people from
understanding economics. They are well paid and know that they
wouldn't be for long if people really understood what was going on.
You must be an economist because you provide absolutely no
interpretation of what the hell you were saying in ghe first paragraph
(as if you actually know what you were trying to say). Duct or duck,
first of all. Second of all--make a point.
Groucho Marx.
You could have convinced me that Karl Marx was in the duck business
because I wouldn't think anyone on any of these lists would be banal
enough to use such a well worn joke.
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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| Title: Re: Firefighters at the site of WTC7 "Move away the building is going to blow up, get back the building is going to blow up." |
02 May 2007 10:46:14 PM |
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On May 2, 7:10 pm, Midex <jbmccr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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I guess the explanation that people were looking at the building and
watching its' structure deform is too rational.
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03 May 2007 01:14:37 AM |
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On May 2, 9:46 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 2, 7:10 pm, Midex <jbmccr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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I guess the explanation that people were looking at the building and
watching its' structure deform is too rational.
Also, that was a Larry Silverstein impostor who
said they were going to 'pull it'.
And the only reason he took out huge amounts
of extra insurance on the buildings two months
before this happened was because of global
warming, because we all know a little bit of heat
will bring down steel buildings.
John
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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03 May 2007 01:18:10 AM |
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On May 2, 10:14 pm, malibu <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
On May 2, 9:46 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 2, 7:10 pm, Midex <jbmccr...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
I guess the explanation that people were looking at the building and
watching its' structure deform is too rational.
Also, that was a Larry Silverstein impostor who
said they were going to 'pull it'.
....maybe if you read the context, it would make a little more rational
sense. Fucking nutter.
And the only reason he took out huge amounts
of extra insurance on the buildings two months
before this happened was because of global
warming, because we all know a little bit of heat
will bring down steel buildings.
A little heat and major structural damage.
John
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| User: "malibu" |
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03 May 2007 10:53:39 AM |
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On May 3, 12:18 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 2, 10:14 pm, malibu <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
On May 2, 9:46 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 2, 7:10 pm, Midex <jbmccr...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
I guess the explanation that people were looking at the building and
watching its' structure deform is too rational.
Also, that was a Larry Silverstein impostor who
said they were going to 'pull it'.
...maybe if you read the context, it would make a little more rational
sense. Fucking nutter.
And the only reason he took out huge amounts
of extra insurance on the buildings two months
before this happened was because of global
warming, because we all know a little bit of heat
will bring down steel buildings.
A little heat and major structural damage.
John
Gee, I'll bet all those explosions in the
subfloors of WTC1 + WTC2 did some
structural damage also!
Come to think of it.
When the firefighters got there, all the glass
on the street floors was blown out.
Shock wave from the plane hitting
80 floors up?
Janitors and such coming up from the basement levels
bleeding and dazed.
Jet fuel trickling down the elevator shafts being ignited
by someone's roach? And exploding?
Severing the three-foot thick steel columns?
All 5 dozen of them?
(That's mighty fine primo, pardner!)
Your brain got structural damage?
Dropped on your head as a kid?
Don't put that fire iron too close
to the flames, honey. It'll melt
and deform!
John
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03 May 2007 09:33:35 PM |
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Dear malibu:
"malibu" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:1178207619.155007.129860@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
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When the firefighters got there, all the glass
on the street floors was blown out.
Shock wave from the plane hitting
80 floors up?
Janitors and such coming up from the basement levels
bleeding and dazed.
Jet fuel trickling down the elevator shafts being ignited
by someone's roach? And exploding?
Severing the three-foot thick steel columns?
All 5 dozen of them?
(That's mighty fine primo, pardner!)
How about flexure of a composite structure, one member being good
in both tension and compression, but very expensive so is
sparsely used (steel). The other is fairly good in compression,
breaks easily in tension, and is fairly cheap and well known
(both glass and concrete). Now make the tower flex by stopping a
plane, and the glass at the ground floors, the point of maximum
torque, breaks and falls away.
Whats the matter, you don't know any failure mechanics? Because
its is clear you don't know anything about construction
techniques either. But you sure know how to spam your hate mail.
David A. Smith
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06 May 2007 06:13:00 PM |
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In article <WXw_h.54006$Fk2.45891@newsfe08.phx>, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" <dlzc@aol.com> wrote:
(snip)
Whats the matter, you don't know any failure mechanics? Because
its is clear you don't know anything about construction
techniques either. But you sure know how to spam your hate mail.
Troll ... feeding ... don't ? :)
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04 May 2007 03:35:18 AM |
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On May 3, 8:33 pm, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" <d...@aol.com> wrote:
Dear malibu:
"malibu" <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:1178207619.155007.129860@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
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When the firefighters got there, all the glass
on the street floors was blown out.
Shock wave from the plane hitting
80 floors up?
Janitors and such coming up from the basement levels
bleeding and dazed.
Jet fuel trickling down the elevator shafts being ignited
by someone's roach? And exploding?
Severing the three-foot thick steel columns?
All 5 dozen of them?
(That's mighty fine primo, pardner!)
How about flexure of a composite structure, one member being good
in both tension and compression, but very expensive so is
sparsely used (steel). The other is fairly good in compression,
breaks easily in tension, and is fairly cheap and well known
(both glass and concrete). Now make the tower flex by stopping a
plane, and the glass at the ground floors, the point of maximum
torque, breaks and falls away.
Whats the matter, you don't know any failure mechanics? Because
its is clear you don't know anything about construction
techniques either. But you sure know how to spam your hate mail.
David A. Smith
Outherwise good argument except for the very last sentence which
was a silly red herring.
Anyway, maybe I should go and point him to some basic physics
and structural engineering texts (this is for him, not you): Just go
and look some up on Amazon.com and you could probably get a
reasonable one for a few bucks...
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03 May 2007 08:22:24 PM |
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On 3 May 2007 08:53:39 -0700, malibu <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
On May 3, 12:18 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 2, 10:14 pm, malibu <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
On May 2, 9:46 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 2, 7:10 pm, Midex <jbmccr...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
I guess the explanation that people were looking at the building and
watching its' structure deform is too rational.
Also, that was a Larry Silverstein impostor who
said they were going to 'pull it'.
...maybe if you read the context, it would make a little more rational
sense. Fucking nutter.
And the only reason he took out huge amounts
of extra insurance on the buildings two months
before this happened was because of global
warming, because we all know a little bit of heat
will bring down steel buildings.
A little heat and major structural damage.
John
Gee, I'll bet all those explosions in the
subfloors of WTC1 + WTC2 did some
structural damage also!
You're an idiot.
Come to think of it.
Slugs do not think.
When the firefighters got there, all the glass
on the street floors was blown out.
You're an idiot.
Shock wave from the plane hitting
80 floors up?
You're a goddamned retard, boy. ARe you an islamic extremist by
chance?
Janitors and such coming up from the basement levels
bleeding and dazed.
You're full of *****.
Jet fuel trickling down the elevator shafts being ignited
by someone's roach? And exploding?
You're an ifiot.
Severing the three-foot thick steel columns?
All 5 dozen of them?
(That's mighty fine primo, pardner!)
The buildings collapsed WAY WAY UP on the floors where the planes
hit, and fell from there down, taking floors out as the large top
section of the building fell.
You could be a bit more retarded, just not in this life.
Your brain got structural damage?
No, but your never was right from the moment your retarded felon
criminal mother shat you out of her ***** and forgot to flush.
Dropped on your head as a kid?
Got any more adolescent baby *****, little boy?
Don't put that fire iron too close
to the flames, honey. It'll melt
and deform!
You're an idiot. There was a tanker crash in Oakland a couple days
back (Sunday) that melted sections of the bridge it was on.
Got Clue? You and Rosie are retarded.
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04 May 2007 03:31:49 AM |
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On May 3, 7:22 pm, The Great Attractor
<Sup...@ssiveBlackHoleAtTheCenterOfTheMilkyWayGalaxy.org> wrote:
On 3 May 2007 08:53:39 -0700, malibu <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
On May 3, 12:18 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 2, 10:14 pm, malibu <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
On May 2, 9:46 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 2, 7:10 pm, Midex <jbmccr...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
I guess the explanation that people were looking at the building and
watching its' structure deform is too rational.
Also, that was a Larry Silverstein impostor who
said they were going to 'pull it'.
...maybe if you read the context, it would make a little more rational
sense. Fucking nutter.
And the only reason he took out huge amounts
of extra insurance on the buildings two months
before this happened was because of global
warming, because we all know a little bit of heat
will bring down steel buildings.
A little heat and major structural damage.
John
Gee, I'll bet all those explosions in the
subfloors of WTC1 + WTC2 did some
structural damage also!
You're an idiot.
You did not refute the claim. How do you
know this claim is wrong?
Come to think of it.
Slugs do not think.
You did not refute the claim.
When the firefighters got there, all the glass
on the street floors was blown out.
You're an idiot.
You did not refute the claim.
Shock wave from the plane hitting
80 floors up?
You're a goddamned retard, boy. ARe you an islamic extremist by
chance?
You did not refute the claim.
Janitors and such coming up from the basement levels
bleeding and dazed.
You're full of *****.
You did not refute the claim.
Jet fuel trickling down the elevator shafts being ignited
by someone's roach? And exploding?
You're an ifiot.
You did not refute the claim.
Severing the three-foot thick steel columns?
All 5 dozen of them?
(That's mighty fine primo, pardner!)
The buildings collapsed WAY WAY UP on the floors where the planes
hit, and fell from there down, taking floors out as the large top
section of the building fell.
First good argument so far...
You could be a bit more retarded, just not in this life.
Your brain got structural damage?
No, but your never was right from the moment your retarded felon
criminal mother shat you out of her ***** and forgot to flush.
You did not refute the claim.
Dropped on your head as a kid?
Got any more adolescent baby *****, little boy?
You did not refute the claim.
Don't put that fire iron too close
to the flames, honey. It'll melt
and deform!
You're an idiot. There was a tanker crash in Oakland a couple days
back (Sunday) that melted sections of the bridge it was on.
Second good argument so far.
Two good arguments and eight non-arguments,
but those two good arguments happen to clinch the thing
anyway...
Got Clue? You and Rosie are retarded.
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| Title: Re: Firefighters at the site of WTC7 "Move away the building is going to blow up, get back the building is going to blow up." |
06 May 2007 10:49:21 PM |
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mike3 wrote:
On May 3, 7:22 pm, The Great Attractor
<Sup...@ssiveBlackHoleAtTheCenterOfTheMilkyWayGalaxy.org> wrote:
On 3 May 2007 08:53:39 -0700, malibu <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
On May 3, 12:18 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 2, 10:14 pm, malibu <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
On May 2, 9:46 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 2, 7:10 pm, Midex <jbmccr...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
I guess the explanation that people were looking at the building
and watching its' structure deform is too rational.
Also, that was a Larry Silverstein impostor who
said they were going to 'pull it'.
...maybe if you read the context, it would make a little more rational
sense. Fucking nutter.
And the only reason he took out huge amounts
of extra insurance on the buildings two months
before this happened was because of global
warming, because we all know a little bit of heat
will bring down steel buildings.
A little heat and major structural damage.
John
Gee, I'll bet all those explosions in the
subfloors of WTC1 + WTC2 did some
structural damage also!
You're an idiot.
You did not refute the claim. How do you
know this claim is wrong?
Come to think of it.
Slugs do not think.
You did not refute the claim.
When the firefighters got there, all the glass
on the street floors was blown out.
You're an idiot.
You did not refute the claim.
Shock wave from the plane hitting
80 floors up?
You're a goddamned retard, boy. ARe you an islamic extremist by
chance?
You did not refute the claim.
Janitors and such coming up from the basement levels
bleeding and dazed.
You're full of *****.
You did not refute the claim.
Jet fuel trickling down the elevator shafts being ignited
by someone's roach? And exploding?
You're an ifiot.
You did not refute the claim.
Severing the three-foot thick steel columns?
All 5 dozen of them?
(That's mighty fine primo, pardner!)
The buildings collapsed WAY WAY UP on the floors where the planes
hit, and fell from there down, taking floors out as the large top
section of the building fell.
First good argument so far...
You could be a bit more retarded, just not in this life.
Your brain got structural damage?
No, but your never was right from the moment your retarded felon
criminal mother shat you out of her ***** and forgot to flush.
You did not refute the claim.
Dropped on your head as a kid?
Got any more adolescent baby *****, little boy?
You did not refute the claim.
Don't put that fire iron too close
to the flames, honey. It'll melt
and deform!
You're an idiot. There was a tanker crash in Oakland a couple days
back (Sunday) that melted sections of the bridge it was on.
Second good argument so far.
Not actually a good argument. Difference #1. The beams on the bridge were
not coated with fireproofing, thus were far more vulnerable. Difference
#2. The petroleum fire had hours to act on bare metal in a concentrated
way, WTC buildings #1 and #2 came down far less than an hour after impact;
not enough time to get through the fireproofing as demonstrated by the
comparison tests.
Down to one pro self-collapse argument.
Two good arguments and eight non-arguments,
but those two good arguments happen to clinch the thing
anyway...
Got Clue? You and Rosie are retarded.
--
JosephKK
Gegen dummheit kampfen die Gotter Selbst, vergebens. Â
--Schiller
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| User: "Michael Moroney" |
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| Title: Re: Firefighters at the site of WTC7 "Move away the building is going to blow up, get back the building is going to blow up." |
07 May 2007 02:29:17 PM |
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joseph2k <quiettechblue@yahoo.com> writes:
mike3 wrote:
You're an idiot. There was a tanker crash in Oakland a couple days
back (Sunday) that melted sections of the bridge it was on.
Second good argument so far.
Not actually a good argument. Difference #1. The beams on the bridge were
not coated with fireproofing, thus were far more vulnerable.
The WTC fireproofing was blown off by the crashes, and regardless, the
fire was much more substantial than the office fire the fireproofing
was designed for.
Difference
#2. The petroleum fire had hours to act on bare metal in a concentrated
way
The freeway collapsed in only about 25 minutes. This was despite the
steel beams being much more substantial than the WTC tower floor trusses,
and the freeway beams were carrying much less than their design load
(nobody left loaded 18 wheelers parked on the ramp or anything)
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| User: "mike3" |
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| Title: Re: Firefighters at the site of WTC7 "Move away the building is going to blow up, get back the building is going to blow up." |
04 May 2007 03:29:19 AM |
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On May 3, 9:53 am, malibu <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
On May 3, 12:18 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 2, 10:14 pm, malibu <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
On May 2, 9:46 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 2, 7:10 pm, Midex <jbmccr...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
I guess the explanation that people were looking at the building and
watching its' structure deform is too rational.
Also, that was a Larry Silverstein impostor who
said they were going to 'pull it'.
...maybe if you read the context, it would make a little more rational
sense. Fucking nutter.
And the only reason he took out huge amounts
of extra insurance on the buildings two months
before this happened was because of global
warming, because we all know a little bit of heat
will bring down steel buildings.
A little heat and major structural damage.
John
Gee, I'll bet all those explosions in the
subfloors of WTC1 + WTC2 did some
structural damage also!
Come to think of it.
When the firefighters got there, all the glass
on the street floors was blown out.
Shock wave from the plane hitting
80 floors up?
Janitors and such coming up from the basement levels
bleeding and dazed.
Jet fuel trickling down the elevator shafts being ignited
by someone's roach? And exploding?
Severing the three-foot thick steel columns?
All 5 dozen of them?
(That's mighty fine primo, pardner!)
Your brain got structural damage?
Dropped on your head as a kid?
Don't put that fire iron too close
to the flames, honey. It'll melt
and deform!
Never mind that the irons in the WTC
were IN the fire, amongst the coals
no less!
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| User: "G=EMC^2 Glazier" |
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03 May 2007 11:30:18 AM |
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This thinking is based on hindsight. Now we know don't have fireman go
up,but just hasten people coming down Bert
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| User: "mike3" |
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| Title: Re: Firefighters at the site of WTC7 "Move away the building is going to blow up, get back the building is going to blow up." |
04 May 2007 03:27:45 AM |
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On May 3, 12:14 am, malibu <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
On May 2, 9:46 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 2, 7:10 pm, Midex <jbmccr...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
I guess the explanation that people were looking at the building and
watching its' structure deform is too rational.
Also, that was a Larry Silverstein impostor who
said they were going to 'pull it'.
And the only reason he took out huge amounts
of extra insurance on the buildings two months
before this happened was because of global
warming, because we all know a little bit of heat
will bring down steel buildings.
John
Pull = pull out the firefighters. Also, did you know
that when they used "pull" to refer to pulling WTC6
it was because they were going to _pull it over_
not blow it up?
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Firefighters at the site of WTC7 "Move away the building is going to blow up, get back the building is going to blow up." |
06 May 2007 11:23:36 PM |
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On May 3, 4:14 pm, malibu <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
On May 2, 9:46 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 2, 7:10 pm, Midex <jbmccr...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
I guess the explanation that people were looking at the building and
watching its' structure deform is too rational.
Also, that was a Larry Silverstein impostor who
said they were going to 'pull it'.
And the only reason he took out huge amounts
of extra insurance on the buildings two months
before this happened was because of global
warming, because we all know a little bit of heat
will bring down steel buildings.
And don't forget the hijackers.
"OH MY GOD HE'S GOT A PLASTIC KNIFE.... FROM BREAKFAST"
Fearing being scratched a little bit, the pilots handed over full
control and these antisemite fanatics proceeded to perform an aviation
miracle.
In the meanwhile, the cave-dweller mastermind, from an afghanistan
cave, hacked into NORAD and disabled the entire US defence
apparatus.
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| User: "Michael Moroney" |
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| Title: Re: Firefighters at the site of WTC7 "Move away the building is going to blow up, get back the building is going to blow up." |
07 May 2007 09:45:52 AM |
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writes:
And don't forget the hijackers.
"OH MY GOD HE'S GOT A PLASTIC KNIFE.... FROM BREAKFAST"
Fearing being scratched a little bit, the pilots handed over full
control and these antisemite fanatics proceeded to perform an aviation
miracle.
People on some of the flights were already dead before the planes crashed.
Sounds like they had some non-plastic knives as well.
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| User: "mike3" |
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| Title: Re: Firefighters at the site of WTC7 "Move away the building is going to blow up, get back the building is going to blow up." |
04 May 2007 03:28:00 AM |
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On May 2, 9:10 pm, Midex <jbmccr...@gmail.com> wrote:
100% EVIDENCE - SEE THE TRUTH FINALLY - ON THE GROUND VIDEO WITNESSEShttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNN6apj5B2U
In order to appreciate just what Truthers are talking about when they
cry Treason over WTC7, you would want to see this History Channel
documentary on what they claim happened to WTC7:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVSxeJH_RCY
Ben Chertoff can't get his story straighthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YND7XocMocj
LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES
9/11 Truth Focoist Revolution. "When peaceful revolution is made
impossible, violent revolution is inevitable" - Martin Luther King.
How long shall they kill our prophets? Look up Focoism. Write about
it. Spread the method. It will be how this revolution will take shape.
Maybe they were just speaking in the heat of the moment... or does
this mean that the FIREFIGHTERS were in on the conspiracy too?
Did you know that a conspiracy becomes more and more difficult
to do the bigger it gets? Do you also know that every structural
engineer, every scientist, all of NIST, everyone would have to be
"in" on this conspiracy?
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| User: "James Stroud" |
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| Title: Re: Firefighters at the site of WTC7 "Move away the building is goingto blow up, get back the building is going to blow up." |
04 May 2007 04:47:42 AM |
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mike3 wrote:
On May 2, 9:10 pm, Midex <jbmccr...@gmail.com> wrote:
100% EVIDENCE - SEE THE TRUTH FINALLY - ON THE GROUND VIDEO WITNESSEShttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNN6apj5B2U
In order to appreciate just what Truthers are talking about when they
cry Treason over WTC7, you would want to see this History Channel
documentary on what they claim happened to WTC7:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVSxeJH_RCY
Ben Chertoff can't get his story straighthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YND7XocMocj
LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES
9/11 Truth Focoist Revolution. "When peaceful revolution is made
impossible, violent revolution is inevitable" - Martin Luther King.
How long shall they kill our prophets? Look up Focoism. Write about
it. Spread the method. It will be how this revolution will take shape.
Maybe they were just speaking in the heat of the moment... or does
this mean that the FIREFIGHTERS were in on the conspiracy too?
Did you know that a conspiracy becomes more and more difficult
to do the bigger it gets? Do you also know that every structural
engineer, every scientist, all of NIST, everyone would have to be
"in" on this conspiracy?
Not entirely.
"A nobleman from the Baltic states, Freytag von Loringhoven was viewed
with suspicion by the Nazis 'who loathed education, real culture and
tradition'. Unlike Hitler's secretary, Traudl Junge, whose memoirs were
published before her death two years ago, he claims he never fell under
the Führer's spell and insists the distinction between the professional
Wehrmacht and politicised Waffen-SS was real. 'After the war I had the
unpleasant feeling of having served as a combustible, as heating wood,
for the adventures of a charlatan,' he says. 'I had served a criminal
regime while remaining loyal to my military convictions.'
It was only as a prisoner of war that he realised the Nazis had murdered
Jews 'on an industrial scale', he says. ' We didn't even know the names
of the concentration camps.'"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,2763,1446410,00.html
James
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