In article <3845-4655C336-73@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>,
oldcoot@webtv.net (oldcoot) wrote:

Nope, the Void-Space Paradijjm is entrenched for the long haul, likely
to remain so for the foreseeable future.

The issue is that you and Painius are posterboys for "unskilled and

You bounce between polite and rude, where your rudeness is directly
proportional to how out of depth your physics knowledge is. Painius

called my derivation of the equations of motion from the Lagrangian

motion of a free particle) nonsense and an oversimplification - whereas

truth is neither of you is aware of the importance of the principle of

action in physics.

As a result, lets put the boot on the other foot. Your claim is that the
velocity of light is a direct consequence of the pressure, density and
temperature of your flowing space.

Lets see the derivation.

I'll be the first to note my GR knowledge isn't as comprehensive as some

my (wannabe) speciality is astrophysics (and more precisely high-z stuff)

so it will be interesting to see what your defense is.

You insist that flowing space is consistent with GR, but yet any attempt

in what way is met with silence. You also insist that the strong nuclear

is gravity, from flowing space flowing into matter and energising it.

But yet any attempt to explain to you the singularities involved in this

particularly when it seems your model can see mass shielding space and

(although once again you flip flop as to whether this is the case), is

with silence or abuse before one or the other of you runs off again. Your
ignorance is so bad you have a bunch of looneys following every post I

making insults, blissfully unaware they are kill-filed ;-)

You break thermodynamics by claiming the inrush of space into matter is

by some external to the universe pump that pumps the fluid back in.

You also insist on pushing your Sagean model of gravity (denying it is

by even more nonsense) as truth and decry the physics cabal (tinpc) as
surpressing your ideas - when any request for experimental evidence is met

"IT JUST IS". This is tied into your frankly laughable notion that the

that all photons travel at c is somehow magical and nonsense......

You continually cry for answers, and I have provided them several times.

answer I meet from you is ignorance, and a request to repeat them.

I've outlined the answers, and you no longer wish to see them. You are not
scientist's, you are evangelical missionaries for an idea that is

of date.

I'm interested to see how you defend these ideas outside your little

as your continual abuse of real scientists as evil people surpressing your
ideas is an affront to real scientists everywhere.

The audience grows silent, the spotlight grows bright and there is your

lets see your science.

In article <3845-4655C336-73@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>,
oldcoot@webtv.net (oldcoot) wrote:

Nope, the Void-Space Paradijjm is entrenched for the long haul, likely
to remain so for the foreseeable future.

The issue is that you and Painius are posterboys for "unskilled and
unaware".

In article <3845-4655C336...@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>,

oldc...@webtv.net (oldcoot) wrote:

Nope, the Void-Space Paradijjm is entrenched for the long haul, likely
to remain so for the foreseeable future.

The issue is that you and Painius are posterboys for "unskilled and unaware".

You bounce between polite and rude, where your rudeness is directly
proportional to how out of depth your physics knowledge is. Painius himself
called my derivation of the equations of motion from the Lagrangian (giving the
motion of a free particle) nonsense and an oversimplification - whereas the
truth is neither of you is aware of the importance of the principle of least
action in physics.

As a result, lets put the boot on the other foot. Your claim is that the
velocity of light is a direct consequence of the pressure, density and
temperature of your flowing space.

Lets see the derivation.

I'll be the first to note my GR knowledge isn't as comprehensive as some (!) as
my (wannabe) speciality is astrophysics (and more precisely high-z stuff) and
so it will be interesting to see what your defense is.

You insist that flowing space is consistent with GR, but yet any attempt to ask
in what way is met with silence. You also insist that the strong nuclear force
is gravity, from flowing space flowing into matter and energising it.

But yet any attempt to explain to you the singularities involved in this model,
particularly when it seems your model can see mass shielding space and gravity
(although once again you flip flop as to whether this is the case), is also met
with silence or abuse before one or the other of you runs off again. Your
ignorance is so bad you have a bunch of looneys following every post I make
making insults, blissfully unaware they are kill-filed ;-)

You break thermodynamics by claiming the inrush of space into matter is powered
by some external to the universe pump that pumps the fluid back in.

You also insist on pushing your Sagean model of gravity (denying it is Sagean
by even more nonsense) as truth and decry the physics cabal (tinpc) as
surpressing your ideas - when any request for experimental evidence is met with
"IT JUST IS". This is tied into your frankly laughable notion that the fact
that all photons travel at c is somehow magical and nonsense......

You continually cry for answers, and I have provided them several times. The
answer I meet from you is ignorance, and a request to repeat them.

I've outlined the answers, and you no longer wish to see them. You are not
scientist's, you are evangelical missionaries for an idea that is centuries out
of date.

I'm interested to see how you defend these ideas outside your little bolthole,
as your continual abuse of real scientists as evil people surpressing your
ideas is an affront to real scientists everywhere.

The audience grows silent, the spotlight grows bright and there is your spot -
lets see your science.

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