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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Sergey Karavashkin"
Date: 14 Jan 2005 04:36:04 PM
Object: For Bill Hobba on QED
From:webmaster@mistral.net (webmaster@mistral.net)
Subject:Re: For Bill Hobba on QED
Newsgroup:sci.physics
Date:2005-01-09 03:03:50 PST

On 8 Jan 2005 14:55:53 -0800,
(Sergey Karavashkin)
wrote:

From:Franz Heymann (notfranz.heymann@btopenworld.com)
Subject:Re: For Bill Hobba on QED
Newsgroup:sci.physics
Date:2004-12-27 21:28:07 PST


"Sergey Karavashkin" <selflab@go.com> wrote in message
news:1305a9da.0412271520.6536b8b0@posting.google.com...

[snip]

"On physical nature of postulate of existence of stable stationary
states of oscillators"


If that essay does dot contain Planck's constant, it is wrong.
If it does contain Planck's constant, please relate it to a
combination of classical constants with the correct dimensions.

Webmaster:
I would agree with that statement.
Sergey:
Dear Webmaster,
I understand your consent. But to understand, why Franz wrote so and
why I replied so, you would have to know our two-year long posting on
different threads. Not just Planck quanta, not Planck constant are the
point. Franz asserts Einsteinian photons - I assert views of Niels
Bohr. You surely are aware, these are basically different positions.
Both Bohr and Planck never admitted the photon conception. In my turn,
on many threads I proved photon conception wrong in multiple points
and discrepant in its postulates. At the same time we with co-author
are getting over the difficulty of Bohr's conception. In particular,
in the paper "On physical nature of postulate of existence of stable
stationary states of oscillators"

http://angelfire.lycos.com/la3/selftrans/v4_1/contents4.html#quant
we have described the phenomenology of stability of electron orbit; it
this way we substantiated true Bohr's postulate of stable orbit, and
we need not to introduce the principle of electron's non-radiation in
the orbit. Planck's constant also is the condition not of quantifying
but of electron's resonance behaviour in the orbit. We largely have
this material already developed and hope to publish it this year. This
corroborates that classical mechanics, as opposite to ambitious claims
of QM supporters, is quite able to solve problems of micro-world out
of fully ungrounded and largely erroneous modelling equations of QM.
And we go on with this solution.
Regards,
Sergey

[snip]

Franz

Sergey:
And with such pompous appearance! ;-) You relativists made of Planck
constant an idol, even doing not taking a trouble to understand the
heart of this phenomenon. For you, this is simply an infallible

symbol

of quantification to which you would like to refer everything, even
what has here no concern.

Sergey

.

User: "Franz Heymann"

Title: Re: For Bill Hobba on QED 15 Jan 2005 09:19:59 AM
"Sergey Karavashkin" <
> wrote in message
news:a42650fc.0501141436.739fbe03@posting.google.com...

From:webmaster@mistral.net (webmaster@mistral.net)
Subject:Re: For Bill Hobba on QED
Newsgroup:sci.physics
Date:2005-01-09 03:03:50 PST


On 8 Jan 2005 14:55:53 -0800,

(Sergey

Karavashkin)

wrote:

From:Franz Heymann (notfranz.heymann@btopenworld.com)
Subject:Re: For Bill Hobba on QED
Newsgroup:sci.physics
Date:2004-12-27 21:28:07 PST


"Sergey Karavashkin" <selflab@go.com> wrote in message
news:1305a9da.0412271520.6536b8b0@posting.google.com...

[snip]

"On physical nature of postulate of existence of stable

stationary

states of oscillators"


If that essay does dot contain Planck's constant, it is wrong.
If it does contain Planck's constant, please relate it to a
combination of classical constants with the correct dimensions.


Webmaster:
I would agree with that statement.

Sergey:

Dear Webmaster,

I understand your consent. But to understand, why Franz wrote so and
why I replied so, you would have to know our two-year long posting

on

different threads. Not just Planck quanta, not Planck constant are

the

point. Franz asserts Einsteinian photons - I assert views of Niels
Bohr.

Quantum electrodynamics has come a very long way since the days of
Bohr. Bohr himself made little, if any, contribution to relativistic
quantum mechanics.

You surely are aware, these are basically different positions.
Both Bohr and Planck never admitted the photon conception. In my

turn,

on many threads I proved photon conception wrong in multiple points
and discrepant in its postulates. At the same time we with co-author
are getting over the difficulty of Bohr's conception. In particular,
in the paper "On physical nature of postulate of existence of stable
stationary states of oscillators"

http://angelfire.lycos.com/la3/selftrans/v4_1/contents4.html#quant

we have described the phenomenology of stability of electron orbit;

it

this way we substantiated true Bohr's postulate of stable orbit, and
we need not to introduce the principle of electron's non-radiation

in

the orbit. Planck's constant also is the condition not of

quantifying

but of electron's resonance behaviour in the orbit. We largely have
this material already developed and hope to publish it this year.

This

corroborates that classical mechanics, as opposite to ambitious

claims

of QM supporters, is quite able to solve problems of micro-world out
of fully ungrounded and largely erroneous modelling equations of QM.
And we go on with this solution.

Quit waffling and tell us where Planck's constant is dragged from in a
classical treatment of the Hydrogen atom.
Franz
.


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