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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Gieniu"
Date: 03 Jun 2007 01:08:45 AM
Object: Free energy
Hi
The pumping it is moving of liquid from the level ho, to .
higher level h1.
Because this action is in the gravitational field,
therefore is prformed the work W=mg( h1 - h0),
and this work the motopump performs.
The straight tube is plunged deep into ideal liquid,
This tube is open on the both its ends.
On the top of tube is instaled the motopump
and the lower end of tube is open.
Ander hydrostatic preasure the liquid flows into
the tube and into the motopump.
Maximal velocity v of pumped liquid is
v = sqrt ( gH)
Velociti of liquid out of pump is also same
but hire are two different action,
1/ keeping velocity of liquid as constant,
2/ hydrostatic preasure.which creates of
velocity of water equal v=sqrt(gh).
These two action are self-supporting
In order to receive energy E = m vv/2 =mgH/2
WE must give energy E1=mg(h1-h0);
it do motopump
and this work is performed for EVER velocity
of pumping ideal liquid ,on the condition that
this velocity is constant, it is not variable.
..
Sincerely E.W.

.

User: "Gieniu"

Title: Re: Free energy 03 Jun 2007 05:26:04 PM
"Gieniu" <warendag@telus.net> wrote in message
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Hi
The pumping it is moving of liquid from the level ho, to .
higher level h1.
Because this action is in the gravitational field,
therefore is prformed the work W=mg( h1 - h0),
and this work the motopump performs.
The straight tube is plunged deep into ideal liquid,
This tube is open on the both its ends.
On the top of tube is instaled the motopump
and the lower end of tube is open.
Under hydrostatic preasure the liquid flows into
the tube and into the motopump.
Maximal velocity v of pumped liquid is
v = sqrt ( gH)
The velocity of liquid out of pump is also same
but hire are two different action,
1/ keeping velocity of liquid as constant,
2/ hydrostatic preasure.which creates of
velocity of water equal v=sqrt(gh).
These two action are self-supporting

In order to receive energy E = m vv/2 =mgH/2
WE must give energy E1=mg(h1-h0);
it does motopump
and this work is performed for EVER velocity
of pumping ideal liquid ,on the condition that
this velocity is constant, it is not variable.
.It means ,that this work W =mg(h1 -h0)

is not depend on velocity v of lifted mass m
of the water.

Therefore.it is;

1/ energy of speed water is
(mvv/2 +mgh1)= mgH/2+ mgh1
2/ energy performed by motopump is
W=mgh1 only
Sincerely E.W.




.
User: "Gieniu"

Title: Re: Free energy 04 Jun 2007 04:06:46 PM
"Gieniu" <warendag@telus.net> wrote in message
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"Gieniu" <warendag@telus.net> wrote in message
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Hi
The pumping it is moving of liquid from the level ho, to .
higher level h1.
Because this action is in the gravitational field,
therefore is prformed the work W=mg( h1 - h0),
and this work the motopump performs.
The straight tube is plunged deep into ideal liquid,
This tube is open on the both its ends.
On the top of tube is instaled the motopump
and the lower end of tube is open.
Under hydrostatic preasure the liquid flows into
the tube and into the motopump.
Maximal velocity v of pumped liquid is
v = sqrt ( gH)
The velocity of liquid out of pump is also same
but hire are two different action,
1/ keeping velocity of liquid as constant,
2/ hydrostatic preasure.which creates of
velocity of water equal v=sqrt(gh).
These two action are self-supporting

In order to receive energy E = m vv/2 =mgH/2
WE must give energy E1=mg(h1-h0);
it does motopump
and this work is performed for EVER velocity
of pumping ideal liquid ,on the condition that
this velocity is constant, it is not variable.
.It means ,that this work W =mg(h1 -h0)

is not depend on velocity v of lifted mass m
of the water.

Therefore.it is;

1/ energy of speed water is
(mvv/2 +mg(h1-h0)= mgH/2+ mg(h1-h0)
2/ energy performed by motopump is
W=mg(h1- h0) only
Sincerely E.W.






.


User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: Free energy 03 Jun 2007 02:18:14 PM
Gieniu wrote:


Hi
The pumping it is moving of liquid from

[snip crap]

and this work is performed for EVER

[snip rest of crap]
1) Second Law efficiency of pump, fluid friction.
2) Time is homogeneous, Noether's theorem, mass-energy is locally
conserved.
3) You are an idiot.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
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User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: Free energy 03 Jun 2007 04:00:04 PM
"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
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: Gieniu wrote:
: >
: > Hi
: > The pumping it is moving of liquid from
: [snip crap]
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User: "The Ghost In The Machine"

Title: Re: Free energy 03 Jun 2007 07:42:51 PM
In sci.physics, Gieniu
<warendag@telus.net>
wrote
on Sun, 03 Jun 2007 06:08:45 GMT
<NVs8i.67391$V75.42901@edtnps89>:

Hi
The pumping it is moving of liquid from the level ho, to .
higher level h1.
Because this action is in the gravitational field,
therefore is prformed the work W=mg( h1 - h0),
and this work the motopump performs.
The straight tube is plunged deep into ideal liquid,
This tube is open on the both its ends.
On the top of tube is instaled the motopump
and the lower end of tube is open.
Ander hydrostatic preasure the liquid flows into
the tube and into the motopump.
Maximal velocity v of pumped liquid is
v = sqrt ( gH)
Velociti of liquid out of pump is also same
but hire are two different action,
1/ keeping velocity of liquid as constant,
2/ hydrostatic preasure.which creates of
velocity of water equal v=sqrt(gh).
These two action are self-supporting

In order to receive energy E = m vv/2 =mgH/2
WE must give energy E1=mg(h1-h0);
it do motopump
and this work is performed for EVER velocity
of pumping ideal liquid ,on the condition that
this velocity is constant, it is not variable.
.
Sincerely E.W.

The bottom of the tube does not stay empty after the water
falls into it.
--
#191,

Does anyone else remember the 1802?
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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User: "Gieniu"

Title: Re: Free energy 04 Jun 2007 03:18:38 PM
"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote in message
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In sci.physics, Gieniu
<warendag@telus.net>
wrote
on Sun, 03 Jun 2007 06:08:45 GMT
<NVs8i.67391$V75.42901@edtnps89>:

Hi
The pumping it is moving of liquid from the level ho, to .
higher level h1.
Because this action is in the gravitational field,
therefore is prformed the work W=mg( h1 - h0),
and this work the motopump performs.
The straight tube is plunged deep into ideal liquid,
This tube is open on the both its ends.
On the top of tube is instaled the motopump
and the lower end of tube is open.
Ander hydrostatic preasure the liquid flows into
the tube and into the motopump.
Maximal velocity v of pumped liquid is
v = sqrt ( gH)
Velociti of liquid out of pump is also same
but hire are two different action,
1/ keeping velocity of liquid as constant,
2/ hydrostatic preasure.which creates of
velocity of water equal v=sqrt(gh).
These two action are self-supporting

In order to receive energy E = m vv/2 =mgH/2
WE must give energy E1=mg(h1-h0);
it do motopump
and this work is performed for EVER velocity
of pumping ideal liquid ,on the condition that
this velocity is constant, it is not variable.
.
Sincerely E.W.


The bottom of the tube does not stay empty after the water
falls into it.

--
#191,


Does anyone else remember the 1802?

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
*********************************************

Hi
Why not ? This tube is not empty ,it is full of the
water(ideal liquid) when motopump is working.
Sincerely E.W.
.
User: "The Ghost In The Machine"

Title: Re: Free energy 10 Jun 2007 11:43:59 PM
In sci.physics, Gieniu
<warendag@telus.net>
wrote
on Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:18:38 GMT
<ys_8i.9$vT6.3@edtnps90>:


"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote in message
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In sci.physics, Gieniu
<warendag@telus.net>
wrote
on Sun, 03 Jun 2007 06:08:45 GMT
<NVs8i.67391$V75.42901@edtnps89>:

Hi
The pumping it is moving of liquid from the level ho, to .
higher level h1.
Because this action is in the gravitational field,
therefore is prformed the work W=mg( h1 - h0),
and this work the motopump performs.
The straight tube is plunged deep into ideal liquid,
This tube is open on the both its ends.
On the top of tube is instaled the motopump
and the lower end of tube is open.
Ander hydrostatic preasure the liquid flows into
the tube and into the motopump.
Maximal velocity v of pumped liquid is
v = sqrt ( gH)
Velociti of liquid out of pump is also same
but hire are two different action,
1/ keeping velocity of liquid as constant,
2/ hydrostatic preasure.which creates of
velocity of water equal v=sqrt(gh).
These two action are self-supporting

In order to receive energy E = m vv/2 =mgH/2
WE must give energy E1=mg(h1-h0);
it do motopump
and this work is performed for EVER velocity
of pumping ideal liquid ,on the condition that
this velocity is constant, it is not variable.
.
Sincerely E.W.


The bottom of the tube does not stay empty after the water
falls into it.

--
#191,


Does anyone else remember the 1802?

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
*********************************************

Hi
Why not ? This tube is not empty ,it is full of the
water(ideal liquid) when motopump is working.
Sincerely E.W.

Then I have no idea where your motopump is. If it's at
the top, then it can move fluid around but that's about it.
If it's at the bottom, it's under tremendous but balanced
pressure from both sides of the tube bottom and can move
fluid around but that's about it.
--
#191,

Linux sucks efficiently, but Windows just blows around
a lot of hot air and vapor.
--
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.
User: "Gieniu"

Title: Re: Free energy 16 Jun 2007 11:50:11 PM
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In sci.physics, Gieniu
<warendag@telus.net>
wrote
on Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:18:38 GMT
<ys_8i.9$vT6.3@edtnps90>:


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message
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In sci.physics, Gieniu
<warendag@telus.net>
wrote
on Sun, 03 Jun 2007 06:08:45 GMT
<NVs8i.67391$V75.42901@edtnps89>:

Hi
The pumping it is moving of liquid from the lower level ho, to .
higher level h1.
Because this action is in the gravitational field,
therefore is prformed the work W=mg( h1 - h0),
and this work the motopump performs.
The straight tube is plunged deep into ideal liquid,
This tube is open on the both its ends.
On the top of tube is instaled the motopump
and the lower end of tube is open.
By action of the hydrostatic preasure, the liquid

flows into

the tube and into the motopump.
Maximal velocity v of pumped liquid is
v = sqrt ( gH)
Velociti of liquid out of pump is also same
but hire are two different action,
1/ keeping velocity of liquid as constant,
2/ hydrostatic preasure.which creates of
velocity of water equal v=sqrt(gh).
These two action are self-supporting

In order to receive energy E = m vv/2 =mgH/2
WE must give energy E1=mg(h1-h0);
it do the motopump

This work is performed for EVER velocity

of pumping ideal liquid ,on the condition that
this velocity is constant, it is not variable.
.
Sincerely E.W.


The bottom of the tube does not stay empty after the water
falls into it.

--
#191,


Does anyone else remember the 1802?

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
*********************************************

Hi
Why not ? This tube is not empty ,it is full of the
water(ideal liquid) when motopump is working.
Sincerely E.W.


Then I have no idea where your motopump is. If it's at
the top, then it can move fluid around but that's about it.

If it's at the bottom, it's under tremendous but balanced
pressure from both sides of the tube bottom and can move
fluid around but that's about it.

--
#191,


Linux sucks efficiently, but Windows just blows around
a lot of hot air and vapor.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

.
User: "Gieniu"

Title: Re: Free energy 17 Jun 2007 06:33:30 PM
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In sci.physics, Gieniu
<warendag@telus.net>
wrote
on Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:18:38 GMT
<ys_8i.9$vT6.3@edtnps90>:


"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote in
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In sci.physics, Gieniu
<warendag@telus.net>
wrote
on Sun, 03 Jun 2007 06:08:45 GMT
<NVs8i.67391$V75.42901@edtnps89>:

Hi
The pumping it is moving of liquid from the lower level ho, to .
higher level h1.
Because this action is in the gravitational field,
therefore is prformed the work W=mg( h1 - h0),
and this work the motopump performs.
The straight tube is plunged deep into ideal liquid,
This tube is open on the both its ends.
On the top of tube is instaled the motopump
and the lower end of tube is open.
By action of the hydrostatic preasure, the liquid

flows into

the tube and into the motopump.
Maximal velocity v of pumped liquid is
v = sqrt ( gH)
Velociti of liquid out of pump is also same
but here there are two different action,
1/ keeping velocity of liquid as constant,
2/ hydrostatic preasure.which creates of
velocity of water equal v=sqrt(gh).
These two action are self-supporting

In order to receive energy E = m vv/2 =mgH/2
WE must give energy E1=mg(h1-h0);
it does the motopump

This work is performed for EVER velocity

of pumping ideal liquid ,on the condition that
this velocity is constant, it is not variable.
.
Sincerely E.W.


The bottom of the tube does not is empty ,when the water
flows into it.

--
#191,


Does anyone else remember the 1802?

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
*********************************************

Hi
This tube is not empty ,it is full of the
water(ideal liquid) when motopump is working.
Sincerely E.W.


Then I have no idea where your motopump is. If it's at
the top, then it can move fluid around but that's about it.

If it's at the bottom, it's under tremendous but balanced
pressure from both sides of the tube bottom and can move
fluid around but that's about it.

--
#191,


Linux sucks efficiently, but Windows just blows around
a lot of hot air and vapor.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com



*****************************************
Hi
The motopump is intalled on top of the tube.
The lower end of the tube is open
The liquid fiows into the tube ,across the lower end fows out
of it into the motopump with the speed of v = sqrt (gH)
Sincerely E.W.
.
User: "Gieniu"

Title: Re: Free energy 17 Jun 2007 11:25:31 PM
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In sci.physics, Gieniu
<warendag@telus.net>
wrote
on Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:18:38 GMT
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In sci.physics, Gieniu
<warendag@telus.net>
wrote
on Sun, 03 Jun 2007 06:08:45 GMT
<NVs8i.67391$V75.42901@edtnps89>:

Hi
The pumping it is moving of liquid from the lower level ho, to .
higher level h1.
Because this action is in the gravitational field,
therefore is prformed the work W=mg( h1 - h0),
and this work the motopump performs.
The straight tube is plunged deep into ideal liquid,
This tube is open on the both its ends.
On the top of tube is instaled the motopump
and the lower end of tube is open.
By action of the hydrostatic preasure, the liquid

flows into

the tube and into the motopump.
Maximal velocity v of pumped liquid is
v = sqrt ( gH)
Velociti of liquid out of pump is also same
but here there are two different action,
1/ keeping velocity of liquid as constant,
2/ hydrostatic preasure.which creates of
velocity of water equal v=sqrt(gh).
These two action are self-supporting

In order to receive energy E = m vv/2 =mgH/2
WE must give energy E1=mg(h1-h0);
it does the motopump

This work is performed for EVER velocity

of pumping ideal liquid ,on the condition that
this velocity is constant, it is not variable.
.
Sincerely E.W.


The bottom of the tube does not is empty ,when the water
flows into it.

--
#191,


Does anyone else remember the 1802?

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
*********************************************

Hi
This tube is not empty ,it is full of the
water(ideal liquid) when motopump is working.
Sincerely E.W.


Then I have no idea where your motopump is. If it's at
the top, then it can move fluid around but that's about it.

If it's at the bottom, it's under tremendous but balanced
pressure from both sides of the tube bottom and can move
fluid around but that's about it.

--
#191,


Linux sucks efficiently, but Windows just blows around
a lot of hot air and vapor.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com




*****************************************
Hi
The motopump is intalled on the top of the tube.
The lower end of the tube is open
The liquid fiows into the tube across the lower end f

flows out

of it into the motopump with the speed of v = sqrt (gH)

Sincerely E.W.


.
User: "Gieniu"

Title: Re: Free energy 18 Jun 2007 05:08:44 PM
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<warendag@telus.net>
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In sci.physics, Gieniu
<warendag@telus.net>
wrote
on Sun, 03 Jun 2007 06:08:45 GMT
<NVs8i.67391$V75.42901@edtnps89>:

Hi
The pumping it is moving of liquid from the lower level ho, to .
higher level h1.
Because this action is in the gravitational field,
therefore is prformed the work W=mg( h1 - h0),
and this work the motopump performs.
The straight tube is plunged deep into ideal liquid,
This tube is open on the both its ends.
On the top of tube is instaled the motopump
and the lower end of tube is open.
By action of the hydrostatic preasure, the liquid

flows into

the tube and into the motopump.
Maximal velocity v of pumped liquid is
v = sqrt ( gH)
Velociti of liquid out of pump is also same
but here there are two different action,
1/ keeping velocity of liquid as constant,
2/ hydrostatic preasure.which creates of
velocity of water equal v=sqrt(gh).
These two action are self-supporting

In order to receive energy E = m vv/2 =mgH/2
WE must give energy E1=mg(h1-h0);
it does the motopump

This work is performed for EVER velocity

of pumping ideal liquid ,on the condition that
this velocity is constant, it is not variable.
.
Sincerely E.W.


The bottom of the tube does not is empty ,when the water
flows into it.

--
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*********************************************

Hi
This tube is not empty ,it is full of the
water(ideal liquid) when motopump is working.
Sincerely E.W.


Then I have no idea where your motopump is. If it's at
the top, then it can move fluid around but that's about it.

If it's at the bottom, it's under tremendous but balanced
pressure from both sides of the tube bottom and can move
fluid around but that's about it.

--
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Linux sucks efficiently, but Windows just blows around
a lot of hot air and vapor.

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*****************************************
Hi
The motopump is intalled on the top of the tube.
The lower end of the tube is open
The liquid fiows into the tube across the lower end f

flows out

of it into the motopump with the speed of v = sqrt (gH)

Sincerely E.W.

***************************

Hi
The motopump is situated on the level-heated of liquid
in the reservoir of this liquid and on the top of the tube.
Motopump is working and pumping the liquid.
The result of pomping is energy E =mgh1 +mvv//2
where mgh1 gives motopump ,and mvv/2 it is kinetical
energy of liquid.
From this we have mgh1 << mvv/2 where
v =sqrt ( gH) ,h1 hight of lifting of the liquid.
In the end we have
mgh1 << mgH/2
1 << H/2h1
For instance if H =1000meters h1 =10meters ,then
1 << 50

From here we have efficiency equal 5000% ??


.
User: "Gieniu"

Title: Re: Free energy 18 Jun 2007 09:18:52 PM
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In sci.physics, Gieniu
<warendag@telus.net>
wrote
on Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:18:38 GMT
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In sci.physics, Gieniu
<warendag@telus.net>
wrote
on Sun, 03 Jun 2007 06:08:45 GMT
<NVs8i.67391$V75.42901@edtnps89>:

Hi
The pumping it is moving of liquid from the lower level ho, to .
higher level h1.
Because this action is in the gravitational field,
therefore is prformed the work W=mg( h1 - h0),
and this work the motopump performs.
The straight tube is plunged deep into ideal liquid,
This tube is open on the both its ends.
On the top of tube is instaled the motopump
and the lower end of tube is open.
By action of the hydrostatic preasure, the liquid

flows into

the tube and into the motopump.
Maximal velocity v of pumped liquid is
v = sqrt ( gH)
Velociti of liquid out of pump is also same
but here there are two different action,
1/ keeping velocity of liquid as constant,
2/ hydrostatic preasure.which creates of
velocity of water equal v=sqrt(gh).
These two action are self-supporting

In order to receive energy E = m vv/2 =mgH/2
WE must give energy E1=mg(h1-h0);
it does the motopump

This work is performed for EVER velocity

of pumping ideal liquid ,on the condition that
this velocity is constant, it is not variable.
.
Sincerely E.W.


The bottom of the tube does not is empty ,when the water
flows into it.

--
#191,


Does anyone else remember the 1802?

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
*********************************************

Hi
This tube is not empty ,it is full of the
water(ideal liquid) when motopump is working.
Sincerely E.W.


Then I have no idea where your motopump is. If it's at
the top, then it can move fluid around but that's about it.

If it's at the bottom, it's under tremendous but balanced
pressure from both sides of the tube bottom and can move
fluid around but that's about it.

--
#191,


Linux sucks efficiently, but Windows just blows around
a lot of hot air and vapor.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com




*****************************************
Hi
The motopump is intalled on the top of the tube.
The lower end of the tube is open
The liquid fiows into the tube across the lower end f

flows out

of it into the motopump with the speed of v = sqrt (gH)

Sincerely E.W.

***************************

Hi
The motopump is situated on the level-headed of liquid
in the reservoir of this liquid and on the top of the tube.
Motopump is working and pumping the liquid.
The result of pomping is energy E =mgh1 +mvv//2
where mgh1 gives motopump ,and mvv/2 it is kinetical
energy of liquid.
From this we have mgh1 << mvv/2 where
v =sqrt ( gH) ,h1 hight of lifting of the liquid.
In the end we have
mgh1 << mgH/2
1 << H/2h1
For instance if H =1000meters h1 =10meters ,then
1 << 50

From here we have efficiency equal 5000% ??

.
More exactly/
Motopump gives energy mgh1 but it necesery electrical
energy equal mgh1 * 1,5.
And have the efficiency
1010meters/30meters =30.3
Sincerely E.W.
.



User: "The Ghost In The Machine"

Title: Re: Free energy 17 Jun 2007 07:53:32 PM
In sci.physics, Gieniu
<warendag@telus.net>
wrote
on Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:33:30 GMT
<exjdi.30608$nx3.23165@edtnps89>:


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In sci.physics, Gieniu
<warendag@telus.net>
wrote
on Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:18:38 GMT
<ys_8i.9$vT6.3@edtnps90>:


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In sci.physics, Gieniu
<warendag@telus.net>
wrote
on Sun, 03 Jun 2007 06:08:45 GMT
<NVs8i.67391$V75.42901@edtnps89>:

Hi
The pumping it is moving of liquid from the lower level ho, to .
higher level h1.
Because this action is in the gravitational field,
therefore is prformed the work W=mg( h1 - h0),
and this work the motopump performs.
The straight tube is plunged deep into ideal liquid,
This tube is open on the both its ends.
On the top of tube is instaled the motopump
and the lower end of tube is open.
By action of the hydrostatic preasure, the liquid

flows into

the tube and into the motopump.
Maximal velocity v of pumped liquid is
v = sqrt ( gH)
Velociti of liquid out of pump is also same
but here there are two different action,
1/ keeping velocity of liquid as constant,
2/ hydrostatic preasure.which creates of
velocity of water equal v=sqrt(gh).
These two action are self-supporting

In order to receive energy E = m vv/2 =mgH/2
WE must give energy E1=mg(h1-h0);
it does the motopump

This work is performed for EVER velocity

of pumping ideal liquid ,on the condition that
this velocity is constant, it is not variable.
.
Sincerely E.W.


The bottom of the tube does not is empty ,when the water
flows into it.

--
#191,


Does anyone else remember the 1802?

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
*********************************************

Hi
This tube is not empty ,it is full of the
water(ideal liquid) when motopump is working.
Sincerely E.W.


Then I have no idea where your motopump is. If it's at
the top, then it can move fluid around but that's about it.

If it's at the bottom, it's under tremendous but balanced
pressure from both sides of the tube bottom and can move
fluid around but that's about it.

--
#191,


Linux sucks efficiently, but Windows just blows around
a lot of hot air and vapor.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com




*****************************************
Hi
The motopump is intalled on top of the tube.
The lower end of the tube is open
The liquid fiows into the tube ,across the lower end fows out
of it into the motopump with the speed of v = sqrt (gH)

Um...where exactly did you get that notion? The flow of
the liquid is going to depend on the power supplied to
the pump, minus any efficiency issues (e.g., viscosity
and friction between the tube sides and the liquid).
Were your relation true you'd be able to observe some
interesting things using little more than a soda straw,
about 10 cm (0.1 m) in length. With your equation,
v = sqrt(9.805 * 0.10) = about 1 m/s, which would result in
a continuous geyser about 5 cm high. Stick the soda straw
into a sufficiently tall water glass and see what happens.
I predict nothing will happen. :-)


Sincerely E.W.


--
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Conventional memory has to be one of the most UNconventional
architectures I've seen in a computer system.
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User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: Free energy 03 Jun 2007 01:42:20 AM
On Jun 2, 11:08 pm, "Gieniu" <waren...@telus.net> wrote:
[...]
Oh look, another person with a high school level understanding of
physics thinks they have invented perpetual motion.
A true perpetual motion machine would be harnessing the energies of
people who think perpetual motion exists.
.


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