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Galileo (NOT Einstein) is inventor of Second postulate of Relativity |
Galileo (NOT Einstein) is inventor of Second postulate of
Relativity
Einstein=E2=80=99s June 1905, paper is known as Special Theory of
Relativity?
The reference to this paper
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
In this paper Einstein stated two postulates and here we will discuss
the second postulate.
Part I
Second postulate of Special Relativity as re-stated by
Einstein
(i) =E2=80=9CThe laws by which the states of physical systems undergo chan=
ge
are not affected, whether these changes of state be referred to the one
or the other of two systems of co-ordinates in uniform translatory
motion=E2=80=9D.
It refer to that law of physics are the same, if two systems or
observers are UNIFROM MOTION (zero acceleration).
I t is well known that in this paper Einstein did not give any REFRENCE
to the existing literature, which implies that all this postulate is
his work .
Part II
Galileo is inventor of Second postulate of special Relativity.
Galileo has given second postulate of Special Theory in his book
Galileo=E2=80=99 Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems),
Ref.
Galileo, G. 1632, Dialogues concerning the two chief world systems,
trans. S.Drake, 2nd edition 1967, University of California Press.
For this book was published by Galileo in 1632 and was persecuted for
this book.
Galileo quoted an example in the Dialogue [14] , that if a ship is
moving with uniform velocity then from motion of fish in bottle one can
not judge that whether ship is moving with uniform velocity or at rest.
Thus Galileo stated
=E2=80=9C the mechanical laws of physics are the same for every observer
moving uniformly with constant speed in a straight line".
It refer to that law of physics are the same, if two systems or
observers are UNIFROM MOTION (zero acceleration).
The Einstein has simply re-stated in 1905, the existing in the
literature since 273 years. It is against ethics of research. Einstein
should have given due credit to Galileo. Even at this time it I not too
late to honour Galileo for basics of Special Theory of Relativity.
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Second Post
Which mathematical equation from Einstein=E2=80=99s Sep. 1905 derivation
predicts that when Light Energy is emitted, MASS OF BODY INCREASES?
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Which mathematical equation from Einstein=E2=80=99s Sep. 1905
derivation predicts that when Light Energy is emitted, MASS OF BODY
INCREASES?
BRIEF
Einstein has speculated E=3D =CE=94m c2 from L=3D =CE=94m c2 in his Sep =
1905
paper. This derivation ( under SPECIAL CONDITIONS) predicts that when
Light Energy is emitted mass of body decreases. It is true. But the
same derivation under general conditions ALSO predicts that when body
emits light energy its mass must increase. It is inconsistent
prediction from Einstein=E2=80=99s derivation and contradiction of Law of
Conservation of Matter or Energy. Einstein did not discuss this aspect
in his work. This aspect is highlighted here.
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1=2E What is Einstein=E2=80=99s Sep 1905 paper in few words?.
AJAY SHARMA : In this paper Einstein derived a relationship between
Light energy emitted (L) and corresponding decrease in mass (=CE=94m =3D
Mb-Ma ) as
L =3D ( Mb-Ma)c2 or Mb=E2=80=93Ma =3D L/c2
From here Einstein speculated E=3Dmc2
Practically, Einstein considered a body at rest emitting light energy.
Einstein measured the magnitude of light energy in a moving system. And
then he derived a relation between ENERGY EMITTED (L) and DECREASE IN
MASS (=CE=94m) of body.
2=2E Under which conditions Einstein derived this equation L =3D =CE=94mc2 ?
AJAY SHARMA: In Einstein=E2=80=99s derivation , there are four variables i.=
e=2E
(a) Number of light waves emitted by body
(b) Magnitude of energy of light waves
(c) Angles at which waves are emitted by body
(d) Velocity of measuring system w.r.t. body emitting light energy.
Einstein took SPECIAL CONDITIONS to derive L =3Dmc2 and speculated from
it E=3Dmc2
(a) Einstein took , Just two light waves
(b) Energy of light wave is equal
(c) Waves are emitted in opposite directions
(d) Velocity measuring system w.r.t body is in classical region.
Thus under these conditions Einstein=E2=80=99s derivation is OK. The result
is
When body emits light energy, its mass decreases i.e. L =3D ( Mb-Ma)c2
It is correct.
3=2E What about Law of Conservation of momentum?
AJAY SHARMA : After emission of light energy body
(i) May remain at rest.
(ii) May tend to move
(iii) May move apparently or visibly
the law of conservation of momentum is always obeyed. The velocity of
recoil can be calculated by applying equation,
Initial Momentum =3D Final Momentum
The velocity of recoil of gun is determined by this method.
Einstein has considered first case ONLY.
4=2E Which is the mathematical equation obtained by Einstein in Sep 1905
paper which predict that
When light energy is emitted, mass decreases?
AJAY SHARMA: The final equation in this regard is
=CE=94m =3D L /c2
or Ma ( mass of body after emission) =3D Mb ( mass of body before
emission) =E2=80=93 L/c2
Thus mass of body decreases when light energy is emitted.
Einstein has derived this equation under SPECIAL CONDITIONS by
considering two light waves of equal energy( 0.5L each ) , emitted in
opposite directions etc.
5=2E Which is mathematical equation which follows from Einstein=E2=80=99s
derivation and implies that
when Light Energy is Emitted mass of body Increases?
AJAY SHARMA There are numerous equations to this fact
which follows from Einstein=E2=80=99s Sep 1905 derivation and predict that
when
Light Energy is emitted, Mass of Body Increases.
It is contradiction of LAW OF CONSERVATION OF MATTER OR ENERGY.
One case is e.g. when body emits TWO LIGHT WAVES of energies 0.501L
and 0.499L , emitted in OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS. Thus all conditions are
same as that in Einstein=E2=80=99s derivation except magnitude of Light
energy (Einstein has taken energy equal to 0.5L each).
Exactly repeating the calculation as done by Einstein in Sep 1905 paper
we get
=CE=94 m =3D Mass of body before emission (Mb)=E2=80=93Mass of body after e=
mission
(Ma)
=3D =E2=80=93 0.004L/cv + L/c2
(16)
or Ma =3D 0.004L/cv =E2=80=93 L/c2 + Mb
Thus
Mass of body after emission of light energy (Ma)
=3D Positive Quantity + Mass of body before
emission.
Hence mass Increases, when light energy is emitted.
It is not CORRECT prediction FROM Einstein=E2=80=99s derivation.
Third Post
Why Einstein=E2=80=99s Sep 1905 derivation CONTRADICTS Law of
Conservation of Matter?
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Why Einstein=E2=80=99s Sep 1905 derivation CONTRADICTS Law of Conservation
of Matter ?
Part I
Reason for this incorrect deductions.
The central equation in Einstein derivation is very complex .
(i) The basic equation Einstein used is
=E2=84=93* =3D =E2=84=93{1 =E2=80=93 v cos =CF=86/c } /=E2=88=9A[1 =E2=80=
=93 v2 /c2] (1)
=E2=84=93* is light energy measured in moving in frame and =E2=84=93 is ene=
rgy
measured in rest frame. Einstein has given eq.(1) in his June 1905
paper, known as Special Theory of Relativity and called eq.(1) as
Doppler principle for any velocities whatever. Link for paper of
Special Theory of Relativity
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
(ii) Thus there are many variables in derivation.
(a) Number of light waves
(b) Magnitude of energy of light waves
(c) Angles at which waves are emitted
(d) Velocity of measuring system w.r.t. body emitting light energy.
Einstein took special conditions to derive L =3Dmc2 or E=3Dmc2
(a) Einstein took , Just two light waves
(b) Energy of light wave is equal
(c) Waves are emitted in opposite directions
(d) Velocity measuring system w.r.t body is in classical region.
Thus under these SPECIAL conditions Einstein=E2=80=99s derivation is OK. The
result is
When body emits light energy , its mass decreases.
Part III
Experimentally law of inter conversion of mass energy holds good in all
cases. Theoretically large number of cases is possible (Einstein =E2=80=98s
derivation is valid under these conditions also).
(p) Body may emit large number of waves
(q) The waves may be emitted at different angles.
(r) The waves may have different energies.
(t) Velocity may be in relativistic region.
THUS UNDER GEENRAL CONDITIONS EINTEIN=E2=80=99S SEP. 27 1905 DERIVATION DOES
NOT WORK WELL.
You have commented about sign CHANGE it follows from Einstein=E2=80=99s
derivation, hence it has limitation.
If you think , I have INCORRECTLY induced it , let me know. Write down
the correct equations for the readers.
So Einstein=E2=80=99s Sep 1905 derivation is true under special conditions
only. This is the THEME of the paper.
References
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If somebody disagree then one can write to Editor Physics Essays
addressing the following issues.
What is Einstein=E2=80=99s Sep 1905 paper?
What are conditions under which it is derived?
What is Planck=E2=80=99s observation regarding it?
Under what conditions experimentally it holds good?
Why Einstein did not generalize the same?
How to generalize it under all conditions?
What is Ajay Sharma=E2=80=99s Interpretation?
How Ajay Sharma=E2=80=99s paper is different from Einstein=E2=80=99s Sep 19=
05
paper.
How Editors/referees who have published it are WRONG?
How Ajay Sharma=E2=80=99s interpretation is incorrect (if it)?
What are the correct interpretations AND EQAUTIONS?
My paper answers all above questions.
It follows from Einstein=E2=80=99s derivation under legitimate conditions,(=
in
some cases) that
when Light Energy is Emitted , mass of body INCREASES.
It is incorrect deduction from Einstein=E2=80=99s derivation.
Part IV
References.
References of Einstein=E2=80=99s work
..
A=2EEinstein, Annalen der Physik 18 (1905) 639-641.
.. DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND
UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?
Weblink is
Einstein=E2=80=99s 27 Sep 1905 paper available at
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/
PartII
References of Ajay Sharma=E2=80=99s work
My work is available at
A=2E Sharma, Physics Essays, 17 (2004) 195-222.
=E2=80=9DThe Origin of Generalized Mass-Energy Equation =EF=81=84E =3D Ac2 =
=EF=81=84M; and
its applications in General physics and Cosmology=E2=80=9D.
http://www.burningbrain.org/pdf/ajaysharma_einstein.pdf
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1=2E Sharma, A. presented in 19th International Conference on the
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August , 2006 Fort Worth Texas, USA
2. A. Sharma, Abstract Book 38th European Group of Atomic Systems
(
Euro physics Conference) Isachia (Naples) Italy (2006) 53.
3=2E A. Sharma , Abstract Book , A Century After Einstein Physics 2005 ,
10-14 April 2005 ( Organizer Institute of Physics , Bristol )
University of Warwick , ENGLAND
4=2E A. Sharma presented in 5th British gravity Conference , OXFORD
ENGLAND
5=2E A. Sharma,. Proc. Int. Conf. on Computational Methods in
Sciences and Engineering 2003 World Scientific Co. USA ,
(2003) 585.
6=2E A. Sharma, Proc. Int. Conf. on Number, Time, Relativity United
Physical Society of Russian Federation, Moscow, (2004) 81
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05 Nov 2006 06:29:58 PM |
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"AJAY SHARMA" <physics.einstein@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Galileo (NOT Einstein) is inventor of Second postulate of Relativity
The POR is the first postulate. Galileo did not apply it to ALL the laws of
physics including EM - he only applied it to mechanics - and obviously so
because EM was not even known in his day.
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/]\
'They suggest rather that, as has already been shown to the first order of
small quantities, the same laws of electrodynamics and optics will be valid
for all frames of reference for which the equations of mechanics hold good.
We will raise this conjecture (the purport of which will hereafter be called
the ``Principle of Relativity'') to the status of a postulate, and also
introduce another postulate, which is only apparently irreconcilable with
the former, namely, that light is always propagated in empty space with a
definite velocity c which is independent of the state of motion of the
emitting body.'
Rest of miconceptions snipped.
Bill
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05 Nov 2006 07:50:35 PM |
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Bill Hobba wrote:
"AJAY SHARMA" <physics.einstein@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162692936.301461.41890@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Galileo (NOT Einstein) is inventor of Second postulate of Relativity
The POR is the first postulate. Galileo did not apply it to ALL the laws of
physics including EM - he only applied it to mechanics - and obviously so
because EM was not even known in his day.
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/]\
'They suggest rather that, as has already been shown to the first order of
small quantities, the same laws of electrodynamics and optics will be valid
for all frames of reference for which the equations of mechanics hold good.
We will raise this conjecture (the purport of which will hereafter be called
the ``Principle of Relativity'') to the status of a postulate, and also
introduce another postulate, which is only apparently irreconcilable with
the former, namely, that light is always propagated in empty space with a
definite velocity c which is independent of the state of motion of the
emitting body.'
Rest of miconceptions snipped.
Bill
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BILL
Till date it is being felt that both the postulates as
quoted by Einstein , are his creations . It is not.
In this regard original inventor Galileo is completely forgotten. It is
not fair.
Further Einstein did not acknowledge work of any existing scientists.
Einstein should have done the same.
+The principle of constancy of light, relativistic variation of mass,
time dilation, length contractions were all known in Einstein's time.+
He complied all these in German language.
None of the existing scientist who has done the work is given credit .
The reference -section is missing.
This is theme of first part of my post.
Further you have mentioned Einstein also did not quote Newton for
calculus, but everyone knows that Einstein is not associated with
calculus.
I have mentioned the issue of SEOND POSTULATE as Einstein is credited
with SPECIAL THEORY OF RELATIVITY.
See that in Einstein's paper June 1905 there is no section which is
known as STR.
I have discussed all the facts in my papers published in international
journals and conferences.
Also illustrated in the book
100 Years of E=mc2
https://www.novapublishers.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23_48_324&products_id=4554
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06 Nov 2006 12:19:58 AM |
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"AJAY SHARMA" <physics.einstein@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Bill Hobba wrote:
"AJAY SHARMA" <physics.einstein@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162692936.301461.41890@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Galileo (NOT Einstein) is inventor of Second postulate of Relativity
The POR is the first postulate. Galileo did not apply it to ALL the laws
of
physics including EM - he only applied it to mechanics - and obviously
so
because EM was not even known in his day.
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/]\
'They suggest rather that, as has already been shown to the first order
of
small quantities, the same laws of electrodynamics and optics will be
valid
for all frames of reference for which the equations of mechanics hold
good.
We will raise this conjecture (the purport of which will hereafter be
called
the ``Principle of Relativity'') to the status of a postulate, and also
introduce another postulate, which is only apparently irreconcilable with
the former, namely, that light is always propagated in empty space with a
definite velocity c which is independent of the state of motion of the
emitting body.'
Rest of miconceptions snipped.
Bill
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BILL
Till date it is being felt that both the postulates as
quoted by Einstein , are his creations .
False. It is was known that the POR applied to mechanics long before
Einstein - probably even at the time of Galileo and could quite easily have
been his creation - I really don't know or particularly care. Einstein
never sought or accepted credit for that and even admitted it was well known
in his original paper as detailed by the links and quotes I have given you.
Note the wording 'for which the equations of mechanics hold good'. That
they hold good in inertial frames was already very well known - Einstein
extended it.
How many times and by how many people do you need to be told this? Stop
shooting down straw men that do not exist. That Einstein specifically
stated it applied to EM and optics is his creation and completely unknown to
Galileo because he knew nothing of EM.
It is not.
In this regard original inventor Galileo is completely forgotten. It is
not fair.
What is not fair is your fixation with a straw man.
Further Einstein did not acknowledge work of any existing scientists.
Rubbish. His admiration for Maxwell, Newton, and Faraday are well known eg
he wrote about Newton: 'To the Master's honor all must turn, each in its
track, without a sound, forever tracing Newton's ground.'
Einstein should have done the same.
+The principle of constancy of light, relativistic variation of mass,
time dilation, length contractions were all known in Einstein's time.+
Yes and no. Other approaches were around - Einstein was the first to derive
then from his two postulates.
He complied all these in German language.
None of the existing scientist who has done the work is given credit .
The reference -section is missing.
So what? Every time you mention F=MA do you reference Newton?
This is theme of first part of my post.
Further you have mentioned Einstein also did not quote Newton for
calculus,
You are delusional - I mentioned no such thing. Actually your whole tone
and wording reeks of delusion.
Bill
but everyone knows that Einstein is not associated with
calculus.
I have mentioned the issue of SEOND POSTULATE as Einstein is credited
with SPECIAL THEORY OF RELATIVITY.
See that in Einstein's paper June 1905 there is no section which is
known as STR.
I have discussed all the facts in my papers published in international
journals and conferences.
Also illustrated in the book
100 Years of E=mc2
https://www.novapublishers.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23_48_324&products_id=4554
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06 Nov 2006 12:36:49 AM |
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Bill Hobba wrote:
"AJAY SHARMA" <physics.einstein@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162777835.836030.15010@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Bill Hobba wrote:
"AJAY SHARMA" <physics.einstein@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162692936.301461.41890@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Galileo (NOT Einstein) is inventor of Second postulate of Relativity
The POR is the first postulate. Galileo did not apply it to ALL the laws
of
physics including EM - he only applied it to mechanics - and obviously
so
because EM was not even known in his day.
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/]\
'They suggest rather that, as has already been shown to the first order
of
small quantities, the same laws of electrodynamics and optics will be
valid
for all frames of reference for which the equations of mechanics hold
good.
We will raise this conjecture (the purport of which will hereafter be
called
the ``Principle of Relativity'') to the status of a postulate, and also
introduce another postulate, which is only apparently irreconcilable with
the former, namely, that light is always propagated in empty space with a
definite velocity c which is independent of the state of motion of the
emitting body.'
Rest of miconceptions snipped.
Bill
========================
BILL
Till date it is being felt that both the postulates as
quoted by Einstein , are his creations .
False. It is was known that the POR applied to mechanics long before
Einstein - probably even at the time of Galileo and could quite easily have
been his creation - I really don't know or particularly care. Einstein
never sought or accepted credit for that and even admitted it was well known
in his original paper as detailed by the links and quotes I have given you.
Note the wording 'for which the equations of mechanics hold good'. That
they hold good in inertial frames was already very well known - Einstein
extended it.
How many times and by how many people do you need to be told this? Stop
shooting down straw men that do not exist. That Einstein specifically
stated it applied to EM and optics is his creation and completely unknown to
Galileo because he knew nothing of EM.
It is not.
In this regard original inventor Galileo is completely forgotten. It is
not fair.
What is not fair is your fixation with a straw man.
Further Einstein did not acknowledge work of any existing scientists.
Rubbish. His admiration for Maxwell, Newton, and Faraday are well known eg
he wrote about Newton: 'To the Master's honor all must turn, each in its
track, without a sound, forever tracing Newton's ground.'
Einstein should have done the same.
+The principle of constancy of light, relativistic variation of mass,
time dilation, length contractions were all known in Einstein's time.+
Yes and no. Other approaches were around - Einstein was the first to derive
then from his two postulates.
He complied all these in German language.
None of the existing scientist who has done the work is given credit .
The reference -section is missing.
So what? Every time you mention F=MA do you reference Newton?
This is theme of first part of my post.
Further you have mentioned Einstein also did not quote Newton for
calculus,
You are delusional - I mentioned no such thing. Actually your whole tone
and wording reeks of delusion.
Bill
but everyone knows that Einstein is not associated with
calculus.
I have mentioned the issue of SEOND POSTULATE as Einstein is credited
with SPECIAL THEORY OF RELATIVITY.
See that in Einstein's paper June 1905 there is no section which is
known as STR.
I have discussed all the facts in my papers published in international
journals and conferences.
Also illustrated in the book
100 Years of E=mc2
https://www.novapublishers.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23_48_324&products_id=4554
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Further Einstein did not acknowledge work of any existing scientists.
See the paper where Eintein's acknowledge that Second posulate was
given by Galieo.
By not giving any reference Einstein meant that all the work od
relativity is given by him.
See the references below.
Existing reference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity
Einstein's references
Title of Einstein's paper ( June 2006) , which is well known as
SPECILA THEORY OF RELATIVITY
Title of paper
ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES.
Print Reference
Einstein, A. Annalen der Physik, 17 891-921 (1905).
Web. Reference
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
See the text.
Part I
Second postulate of Special Relativity as re-stated by
Einstein
(i) "The laws by which the states of physical systems undergo change
are not affected, whether these changes of state be referred to the one
or the other of two systems of co-ordinates in uniform translatory
motion".
It refer to that law of physics are the same, if two systems or
observers are UNIFROM MOTION (zero acceleration).
I t is well known that in this paper Einstein did not give any REFRENCE
to the existing literature, which implies that all this postulate is
his work .
Part II
Galileo is inventor of Second postulate of special Relativity.
Galileo has given second postulate of Special Theory in his book
Galileo' Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems),
Ref.
Galileo, G. 1632, Dialogues concerning the two chief world systems,
trans. S.Drake, 2nd edition 1967, University of California Press.
For this book was published by Galileo in 1632 and was persecuted for
this book.
Galileo quoted an example in the Dialogue [14] , that if a ship is
moving with uniform velocity then from motion of fish in bottle one can
not judge that whether ship is moving with uniform velocity or at rest.
Thus Galileo stated
" the mechanical laws of physics are the same for every observer
moving uniformly with constant speed in a straight line".
It refer to that law of physics are the same, if two systems or
observers are UNIFROM MOTION (zero acceleration).
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06 Nov 2006 09:53:03 AM |
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AJAY SHARMA wrote:
Bill Hobba wrote:
"AJAY SHARMA" <physics.einstein@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162777835.836030.15010@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Bill Hobba wrote:
"AJAY SHARMA" <physics.einstein@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162692936.301461.41890@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Galileo (NOT Einstein) is inventor of Second postulate of Relativity
The POR is the first postulate. Galileo did not apply it to ALL the laws
of
physics including EM - he only applied it to mechanics - and obviously
so
because EM was not even known in his day.
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/]\
'They suggest rather that, as has already been shown to the first order
of
small quantities, the same laws of electrodynamics and optics will be
valid
for all frames of reference for which the equations of mechanics hold
good.
We will raise this conjecture (the purport of which will hereafter be
called
the ``Principle of Relativity'') to the status of a postulate, and also
introduce another postulate, which is only apparently irreconcilable with
the former, namely, that light is always propagated in empty space with a
definite velocity c which is independent of the state of motion of the
emitting body.'
Rest of miconceptions snipped.
Bill
========================
BILL
Till date it is being felt that both the postulates as
quoted by Einstein , are his creations .
False. It is was known that the POR applied to mechanics long before
Einstein - probably even at the time of Galileo and could quite easily have
been his creation - I really don't know or particularly care. Einstein
never sought or accepted credit for that and even admitted it was well known
in his original paper as detailed by the links and quotes I have given you.
Note the wording 'for which the equations of mechanics hold good'. That
they hold good in inertial frames was already very well known - Einstein
extended it.
How many times and by how many people do you need to be told this? Stop
shooting down straw men that do not exist. That Einstein specifically
stated it applied to EM and optics is his creation and completely unknown to
Galileo because he knew nothing of EM.
It is not.
In this regard original inventor Galileo is completely forgotten. It is
not fair.
What is not fair is your fixation with a straw man.
Further Einstein did not acknowledge work of any existing scientists.
Rubbish. His admiration for Maxwell, Newton, and Faraday are well known eg
he wrote about Newton: 'To the Master's honor all must turn, each in its
track, without a sound, forever tracing Newton's ground.'
Einstein should have done the same.
+The principle of constancy of light, relativistic variation of mass,
time dilation, length contractions were all known in Einstein's time.+
Yes and no. Other approaches were around - Einstein was the first to derive
then from his two postulates.
He complied all these in German language.
None of the existing scientist who has done the work is given credit .
The reference -section is missing.
So what? Every time you mention F=MA do you reference Newton?
This is theme of first part of my post.
Further you have mentioned Einstein also did not quote Newton for
calculus,
You are delusional - I mentioned no such thing. Actually your whole tone
and wording reeks of delusion.
Bill
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Further see link
http://physicsajay.sulekha.com/blog/post/2006/11/galileo-not-einstein-is-inventor-of-second-postulate.htm
AJAY SHARMA
but everyone knows that Einstein is not associated with
calculus.
I have mentioned the issue of SEOND POSTULATE as Einstein is credited
with SPECIAL THEORY OF RELATIVITY.
See that in Einstein's paper June 1905 there is no section which is
known as STR.
I have discussed all the facts in my papers published in international
journals and conferences.
Also illustrated in the book
100 Years of E=mc2
https://www.novapublishers.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23_48_324&products_id=4554
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Further Einstein did not acknowledge work of any existing scientists.
See the paper where Eintein's acknowledge that Second posulate was
given by Galieo.
By not giving any reference Einstein meant that all the work od
relativity is given by him.
See the references below.
Existing reference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity
Einstein's references
Title of Einstein's paper ( June 2006) , which is well known as
SPECILA THEORY OF RELATIVITY
Title of paper
ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES.
Print Reference
Einstein, A. Annalen der Physik, 17 891-921 (1905).
Web. Reference
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
See the text.
Part I
Second postulate of Special Relativity as re-stated by
Einstein
(i) "The laws by which the states of physical systems undergo change
are not affected, whether these changes of state be referred to the one
or the other of two systems of co-ordinates in uniform translatory
motion".
It refer to that law of physics are the same, if two systems or
observers are UNIFROM MOTION (zero acceleration).
I t is well known that in this paper Einstein did not give any REFRENCE
to the existing literature, which implies that all this postulate is
his work .
Part II
Galileo is inventor of Second postulate of special Relativity.
Galileo has given second postulate of Special Theory in his book
Galileo' Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems),
Ref.
Galileo, G. 1632, Dialogues concerning the two chief world systems,
trans. S.Drake, 2nd edition 1967, University of California Press.
For this book was published by Galileo in 1632 and was persecuted for
this book.
Galileo quoted an example in the Dialogue [14] , that if a ship is
moving with uniform velocity then from motion of fish in bottle one can
not judge that whether ship is moving with uniform velocity or at rest.
Thus Galileo stated
" the mechanical laws of physics are the same for every observer
moving uniformly with constant speed in a straight line".
It refer to that law of physics are the same, if two systems or
observers are UNIFROM MOTION (zero acceleration).
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AJAY SHARMA wrote:
AJAY SHARMA wrote:
Bill Hobba wrote:
You are delusional - I mentioned no such thing. Actually your whole tone
and wording reeks of delusion.
Bill
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Further see link
http://physicsajay.sulekha.com/blog/post/2006/11/galileo-not-einstein-is-inventor-of-second-postulate.htm
AJAY SHARMA
I like this link much better:
http://macactupapi.sulekha.com/blog/post/2006/07/100-years-of-e-mc2-a-hoax-by-ajay-sharma.htm
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Dono wrote:
AJAY SHARMA wrote:
AJAY SHARMA wrote:
Bill Hobba wrote:
You are delusional - I mentioned no such thing. Actually your whole tone
and wording reeks of delusion.
Bill
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Further see link
http://physicsajay.sulekha.com/blog/post/2006/11/galileo-not-einstein-is-inventor-of-second-postulate.htm
AJAY SHARMA
I like this link much better:
http://macactupapi.sulekha.com/blog/post/2006/07/100-years-of-e-mc2-a-hoax-by-ajay-sharma.htm
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You can have poll for your choice. Just possible I may vote for your
this choice
http://physicsajay.sulekha.com/blog/post/2006/11/galileo-not-einstein-is-inventor-of-second-postulate.htm
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In article <iuA3h.59774$rP1.22259@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
rubbish@junk.com says...
Further Einstein did not acknowledge work of any existing scientists.
Rubbish. His admiration for Maxwell, Newton, and Faraday are well known eg
he wrote about Newton: 'To the Master's honor all must turn, each in its
track, without a sound, forever tracing Newton's ground.'
Nit picking! Einstein was extremely impressed with Euclid.
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The present is always new.
Observations of Bernard - No 106
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In article <iuA3h.59774$rP1.22259@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
rubbish@junk.com says...
Further Einstein did not acknowledge work of any existing scientists.
Rubbish. His admiration for Maxwell, Newton, and Faraday are well known eg
he wrote about Newton: 'To the Master's honor all must turn, each in its
track, without a sound, forever tracing Newton's ground.'
Nit picking! Einstein was extremely impressed with Euclid.
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The present is always new.
Observations of Bernard - No 106
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True , here is the link
http://physicsajay.sulekha.com/blog/post/2006/11/galileo-not-einstein-is-inventor-of-second-postulate.htm
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Observations of Bernard - No 106
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The best
"100 Years of E=Mc2" a hoax by Ajay Sharma
Mr. Ajay Sharma has produced a fraudulent paper in which he claims to
have "completed" Einstein's work. In reality, "100 years of E=mc2" is
nothing but a collection of errors.
Mr. Ajay Sharma simply mistakes the trivial change in a system's
momentum for a n "increase in mass". Mr Ajay Sharma perpetrates the
same gross mistakes over 28 pages of torture replete with
misunderstandings, errors and slanders to Einstein's work.
Mr.Sharma is attempting to convince the reader that he has found errors
in Einstein's work (there aren't any) and that he is "completing"
Einstein's "unfinished " work. In reality, Einstein's work is correct
and complete while Ajay Sharma's is full with elementary errors.
The tone of the paper is as arrogant as it is ignorant, Ajay Sharma
simply does not understand one of the basic laws of physics: the law of
conservation of momentum which is conspicously absent from his
so-called "discovery"
Ajay Sharma paper "100 Years of E=Mc2" turns out to be a hoax.
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AJAY SHARMA wrote:
Observations of Bernard - No 106
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The best
"100 Years of E=3DMc2" a hoax by Ajay Sharma
Mr. Ajay Sharma has produced a fraudulent paper in which he claims to
have "completed" Einstein's work. In reality, "100 years of E=3Dmc2" is
nothing but a collection of errors.
Mr. Ajay Sharma simply mistakes the trivial change in a system's
momentum for a n "increase in mass". Mr Ajay Sharma perpetrates the
same gross mistakes over 28 pages of torture replete with
misunderstandings, errors and slanders to Einstein's work.
Mr.Sharma is attempting to convince the reader that he has found errors
in Einstein's work (there aren't any) and that he is "completing"
Einstein's "unfinished " work. In reality, Einstein's work is correct
and complete while Ajay Sharma's is full with elementary errors.
The tone of the paper is as arrogant as it is ignorant, Ajay Sharma
simply does not understand one of the basic laws of physics: the law of
conservation of momentum which is conspicously absent from his
so-called "discovery"
Ajay Sharma paper "100 Years of E=3DMc2" turns out to be a hoax.
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100 Years of E=3Dmc2
(Book will be published in Dec. 2006 , By NOVA Science, New York,
USA)
http://physicsajay.sulekha.com/blog/post/2006/11/galileo-not-einstein-is-in=
ventor-of-second-postulate.htm
1=2E What is E=3Dmc2? What is its importance?
E=3Dmc2 is the most wonderful and significant equation is physics. In
1945 the explosion of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were base
upon this equation. According to this mass (m) can be converted to
energy (E) and energy can be converted to mass.
Einstein=E2=80=99s 27 Sep 1905 paper available at
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/
2=2E This equation is doing well since past 100 years then where is the
inconsistency?
The inconsistency lies in its mathematical derivation (a method to
obtain a mathematical equation). In his 1905 paper Einstein did not
derive it mathematically but in true sense speculated it. Einstein
earlier derived L =3D mc2 (light energy mass conversion equation). Then
Einstein speculated that what is true for light energy (L) the same is
true for every energy (E). This speculation results in E=3Dmc2, such a
significant equation must be based upon a specific mathematical
derivation and not on speculation.
3=2E Is Einstein=E2=80=99s derivation of L =3Dmc2 correct?
The derivation of L=3Dmc2 is incomplete or true in special conditions
only. Einstein took just handpicked parameters out of numerous
possible, to obtain the equation. Einstein was aware of the reality so
he left in midway after getting the desired result. If all valid
values of parameters are taken, then results are contradictory in
nature.
4=2E What are contradictory results?
Some UNDISCUSSED predictions of Einstein=E2=80=99s 29 Sep. 1905 derivation
blatantly contradict Law of Conservation of Matter. I have
scientifically confirmed the same. No limitation can be bigger than
this in science.
5=2E Was E=3Dmc2 or similar ideas existed before Einstein?
Yes, E=3Dmc2 existed before Einstein. An Italian Olinto de Pretto
published E=3Dmc2 in valid scientific journal Lettere ed Atti, Feb. 1904,
two years before Einstein. But Pretto died in 1921, before its
experimental confirmation in nuclear physics.
6=2E Einstein speculated E=3Dmc2 from L=3Dmc2. What is the problem here?
Firstly derivation of L=3Dmc2 is incomplete or under special conditions
only.
For examples there are many variables in Einstein=E2=80=99s derivation e.g.
number of light waves emitted by body, magnitude of light energy, angle
at which light energy is emitted and relative velocity v. Einstein just
took handpicked values of variables.
If general values of variables are
taken then results are contradictory to experiments.
Secondly Einstein originated E=3Dmc2 on the basis of speculation only
without any conceptual and mathematical basis. Basically Einstein
replaced L by E in equation L=3Dmc2 to get E=3Dmc2.
7=2E Then how did you derive new equation, dE =3DAc2dm (or DE =3D Ac2 DM =
)?
I have derived new equation between mass-energy conservation by simple
calculus method. In dE =3DAc2dm, A is a co-efficient of proportionality
like numerous others in science. It is dimensionless variable.
Sharma June 2004 paper is available
http://www.burningbrain.org/pdf/ajaysharma_einstein.pdf
8=2E How do you compare these two equations?
Firstly dE =3DAc2dm is based upon a conceptual and mathematical
derivation. On the other hand E=3Dmc2 is a speculation, it is bitter
truth. Secondly dE =3DAc2dm is a general equation and E=3Dmc2 is its
special case. Energy emitted by new equation can be less, equal to or
more than predicted by E=3Dmc2.
9=2E How did you justify your equation experimentally?
In Nuclear Physics there are some anomalous results which cannot be
explained by E=3Dmc2 . Like this there are some instances in
astrophysics where my equation is extremely useful.
10. Is your work recognized by international scientific community?
Yes, it is completely recognized, as published in peer review journals.
11 Have you got any recognition certificate from the scientific
community?
The only way to get scientific recognition is that to get the work
published in peer review international journals and conferences. My
research papers are either published in international journals from
America, England and Canada or being published. I have got invitation
from at least 55 International Conferences to present my work. I have
presented my research in international conferences in USA, England,
Germany, Taiwan Ukraine etc. I have invitation from France and Italy
to present my work this year.
[b]Still there ANYONE is welcome to COMMENT on the work in Physics
Essays giving the facts e.g.
What is Einstein=E2=80=99s Sep 1905 paper ?
What are conditions under which it is derived?
Under what conditions experimentally it holds good?
How to generalize it under all conditions?
What is Ajay Sharma=E2=80=99s Interpretation?
How Ajay Sharma=E2=80=99s paper is different from Einstein=E2=80=99s Sep 1=
905
paper
How Ajay Sharma=E2=80=99s interpretation is incorrect (if it)?
What are the correct interpretations?
I HAVE ANSWERS TO ALL QUESTIONS.
If Editor Physics Essays and his Editorial Board finds your
interpretation and published the paper it is OK.
All the references are given below for the purpose.
There may be back door critics but none of the scientists have dared to
write to scientific bodies or journals Editors , that Ajay Sharma=E2=80=99s
work is incorrectly published.
12. Can this work be introduced in Schools and colleges?
Yes my wok is scientifically approved in journal in USA, CANADA and
England. Hence it can be so done by any country. IT IS THE IMPORTANCE
OF THE WORK.
13. How do you counter the opposition of the people which has come in
you your way?
Science is the international language. For this, I take seriously the
logical conclusions of the critics. I completely ignore the
irresponsible critics, as they don=E2=80=99t exist.
The critics when understand the things become my supporters.
14. What about your book, 100 Years of E=3Dmc2?
This book will be published in Dec. 2006
It will bring clear and unbiased picture of the facts.
The contents of book are already approved by expert scientists after
PEER REVIEW and published in international journals and conferences
..The book is meant for general public who is interested in basic
science. This book will status as Newton=E2=80=99s Principia or Galileo=E2=
=80=99s
Dialogue have in science.
Book Link :
https://www.novapublishers.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=3D23_48_324&p=
roducts_id=3D4554
Interviewer Rajesh Thakoor Email
References of Einstein=E2=80=99s work
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A=2EEinstein, Annalen der Physik 18 (1905) 639-641.
.. DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND
UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?
Weblink is
Einstein=E2=80=99s 27 Sep 1905 paper available at
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/
PartII
References of Ajay Sharma=E2=80=99s work
My work is available at
A=2E Sharma, Physics Essays, 17 (2004) 195-222.
=E2=80=9DThe Origin of Generalized Mass-Energy Equation =EF=81=84E =3D Ac2 =
=EF=81=84M; and
its applications in General physics and Cosmology=E2=80=9D.
http://www.burningbrain.org/pdf/ajaysharma_einstein.pdf
For details
100 Years of E=3Dmc2
https://www.novapublishers.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=3D23_48_324&p=
roducts_id=3D4554
International Conferences
It has been accepted for presentation over 55 conferences all over the
world
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1=2E Sharma, A. presented in 19th International Conference on the
Applications of Accelerators in Research and Industry , 20-25
August , 2006 Fort Worth Texas, USA
2. A. Sharma, Abstract Book 38th European Group of Atomic Systems
(
Euro physics Conference) Isachia (Naples) Italy (2006) 53.
3=2E A. Sharma , Abstract Book , A Century After Einstein Physics 2005 ,
10-14 April 2005 ( Organizer Institute of Physics , Bristol )
University of Warwick , ENGLAND
4=2E A. Sharma presented in 5th British gravity Conference , OXFORD
ENGLAND
5=2E A. Sharma,. Proc. Int. Conf. on Computational Methods in
Sciences and Engineering 2003 World Scientific Co. USA ,
(2003) 585.
6=2E A. Sharma, Proc. Int. Conf. on Number, Time, Relativity United
Physical Society of Russian Federation, Moscow , (2004) 81
plus more
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This paper
=E2=80=9DThe Origin of Generalized Mass-Energy Equation =EF=81=84E =3D Ac2 =
=EF=81=84M; and
its applications in General physics and Cosmology=E2=80=9D.
is published in journal
Physics Essays , CANADA
www.physicsessays.com
The paper
The past, present and future of E=3Dmc2
will be published in 2007 Galilean Electrodynamics, Massachusetts,
USA.
In parts it is published in various others journals.
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Book 100 Years of E=3Dmc2
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AJAY SHARMA wrote:
Galileo (NOT Einstein) is inventor of Second postulate of
Relativity
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The nurse forgot to give you your antipsychotic meds today.
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AJAY SHARMA wrote:
Galileo (NOT Einstein) is inventor of Second postulate of
Relativity
<rest of idiocies snipped>
The nurse forgot to give you your antipsychotic meds today.
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Definitely you should have taken it before swtiching on the computer
Look at next post of Hasman, HE PROVIDES YOU THE ANWER NOT ME
That's usually called the first postulate, not the second.
And yes,
Galileo first declared it.
That is what's known in scientific circles
as "common knowledge"-- every freshman physics student knows it. E.g.
the Wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity
In scientific circles, references are often not expected for common
knowledge. For instance, authors feel themselves free to use F=ma
without referencing Newton's publication of it, to mention the neutron
without referencing Chadwick's discovery of it, and to use E=mc^2
without referencing Einstein's derivation of it.
Einstein did, however, apply the principle of relativity to
electromagnetism, which was an unusual step at the time and can be
considered a novel contribution from him.
Further reference
100 Years of E=mc2
(Book will be published in Dec. 2006 , By NOVA Science, New York,
USA)
https://www.novapublishers.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23_48_324&products_id=4554
AJAY SHARMA 5th Oct 2006
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AJAY SHARMA wrote:
Galileo (NOT Einstein) is inventor of Second postulate of
Relativity
Einstein’s June 1905, paper is known as Special Theory of
Relativity?
The reference to this paper
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
In this paper Einstein stated two postulates and here we will discuss
the second postulate.
Part I
Second postulate of Special Relativity as re-stated by
Einstein
(i) “The laws by which the states of physical systems undergo change
are not affected, whether these changes of state be referred to the one
or the other of two systems of co-ordinates in uniform translatory
motion”.
That's usually called the first postulate, not the second. And yes,
Galileo first declared it. That is what's known in scientific circles
as "common knowledge"-- every freshman physics student knows it. E.g.
the Wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity
In scientific circles, references are often not expected for common
knowledge. For instance, authors feel themselves free to use F=ma
without referencing Newton's publication of it, to mention the neutron
without referencing Chadwick's discovery of it, and to use E=mc^2
without referencing Einstein's derivation of it.
Einstein did, however, apply the principle of relativity to
electromagnetism, which was an unusual step at the time and can be
considered a novel contribution from him.
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Greg Hansen wrote:
AJAY SHARMA wrote:
Galileo (NOT Einstein) is inventor of Second postulate of
Relativity
Einstein's June 1905, paper is known as Special Theory of
Relativity?
The reference to this paper
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
In this paper Einstein stated two postulates and here we will discuss
the second postulate.
Part I
Second postulate of Special Relativity as re-stated by
Einstein
(i) "The laws by which the states of physical systems undergo change
are not affected, whether these changes of state be referred to the one
or the other of two systems of co-ordinates in uniform translatory
motion".
That's usually called the first postulate, not the second. And yes,
Galileo first declared it. That is what's known in scientific circles
as "common knowledge"-- every freshman physics student knows it. E.g.
the Wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity
In scientific circles, references are often not expected for common
knowledge. For instance, authors feel themselves free to use F=3Dma
without referencing Newton's publication of it, to mention the neutron
without referencing Chadwick's discovery of it, and to use E=3Dmc^2
without referencing Einstein's derivation of it.
Einstein did, however, apply the principle of relativity to
electromagnetism, which was an unusual step at the time and can be
considered a novel contribution from him.
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Title of Einstein's paper ( June 2006) , which is well known as
SPECILA THEORY OF RELATIVITY
Title of paper
ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES.
Print Reference
Einstein, A. Annalen der Physik, 17 891-921 (1905).
Web. Reference
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
The two postulates are quoted in section
=A7 2. On the Relativity of Lengths and Times
The following reflexions are based on the principle of relativity and
on the principle of the constancy of the velocity of light. These two
principles we define as follows:--
1=2E The laws by which the states of physical systems undergo change are
not affected, whether these changes of state be referred to the one or
the other of two systems of co-ordinates in uniform translatory motion.
Any ray of light moves in the ``stationary'' system of co-ordinates
with the determined velocity c, whether the ray be emitted by a
stationary or by a moving body.
So whaTever I have written is based upon these facts {original work of
Eintein, not on following interpretations] .
Further references
100 Years of E=3Dmc2
(Book will be published in Dec. 2006 , By NOVA Science, New York,
USA)
https://www.novapublishers.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=3D23_48_324&p=
roducts_id=3D4554
AJAY SHARMA 5TH Nov 2006.
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AJAY SHARMA wrote:
Galileo (NOT Einstein) is inventor of Second postulate of
Relativity
Would you people get these damn terms straight. Galileo invented the
PRINCIPLE of relativity, not the Second Postulate of SR. Will you guys
ever learn what a theory is and isn't, and what a postulate is and
isn't, and what a principle is and isn't?
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AJAY SHARMA wrote:
Galileo (NOT Einstein) is inventor of Second postulate of
Relativity
Would you people get these damn terms straight. Galileo invented the
PRINCIPLE of relativity, not the Second Postulate of SR. Will you guys
ever learn what a theory is and isn't, and what a postulate is and
isn't, and what a principle is and isn't?
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++++ Kindly see that Einstein' second postulate of relativity and
Galileo's deductions are the same.++++ I have posted again,
http://physicsajay.sulekha.com/blog/post/2006/11/galileo-not-einstein-is-inventor-of-second-postulate.htm
Galileo (NOT Einstein) is inventor of Second postulate of Relativity
Einstein's June 1905, paper is known as Special Theory of
Relativity?
The reference to this paper
In this paper Einstein stated two postulates and here we will discuss
the second postulate.
Part I
Second postulate of Special Relativity as re-stated by
Einstein
++++(i) "The laws by which the states of physical systems undergo
change are not affected, whether these changes of state be referred to
the one or the other of two systems of co-ordinates in uniform
translatory motion".++++
It refer to that law of physics are the same, if two systems or
observers are UNIFROM MOTION (zero acceleration).
I t is well known that in this paper Einstein did not give any REFRENCE
to the existing literature, which implies that all this postulate is
his work .
Part II
Galileo is inventor of Second postulate of special Relativity.
Galileo has given second postulate of Special Theory in his book
Galileo' Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems),
Ref.
Galileo, G. 1632, Dialogues concerning the two chief world systems,
trans. S.Drake, 2nd edition 1967, University of California Press.
For this book was published by Galileo in 1632 and was persecuted for
this book.
Galileo quoted an example in the Dialogue [14] , that if a ship is
moving with uniform velocity then from motion of fish in bottle one can
not judge that whether ship is moving with uniform velocity or at rest.
Thus Galileo stated
++++" the mechanical laws of physics are the same for every observer
moving uniformly with constant speed in a straight line".++++
It refer to that law of physics are the same, if two systems or
observers are UNIFROM MOTION (zero acceleration).
The Einstein has simply re-stated in 1905, the existing in the
literature since 273 years. It is against ethics of research. Einstein
should have given due credit to Galileo. Even at this time it I not too
late to honour Galileo for basics of Special Theory of Relativity.
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Even Pope John has pardoned Galileo in 1992 for the book, he was
persecuted.
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08 Nov 2006 12:36:38 PM |
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AJAY SHARMA wrote:
surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com wrote:
"100 Years of E=Mc2" a hoax by Ajay Sharma
Mr. Ajay Sharma has produced a fraudulent paper in which he claims to
have "completed" Einstein's work. In reality, "100 years of E=mc2" is
nothing but a collection of errors.
Mr. Ajay Sharma simply mistakes the trivial change in a system's
momentum for a n "increase in mass". Mr Ajay Sharma perpetrates the
same gross mistakes over 28 pages of torture replete with
misunderstandings, errors and slanders to Einstein's work.
Mr.Sharma is attempting to convince the reader that he has found errors
in Einstein's work (there aren't any) and that he is "completing"
Einstein's "unfinished " work. In reality, Einstein's work is correct
and complete while Ajay Sharma's is full with elementary errors.
The tone of the paper is as arrogant as it is ignorant, Ajay Sharma
simply does not understand one of the basic laws of physics: the law of
conservation of momentum which is conspicously absent from his
so-called "discovery"
Ajay Sharma paper "100 Years of E=Mc2" turns out to be a hoax.
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08 Nov 2006 08:32:32 PM |
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wrote:
AJAY SHARMA wrote:
surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com wrote:
"100 Years of E=Mc2" a hoax by Ajay Sharma
Mr. Ajay Sharma has produced a fraudulent paper in which he claims to
have "completed" Einstein's work. In reality, "100 years of E=mc2" is
nothing but a collection of errors.
Mr. Ajay Sharma simply mistakes the trivial change in a system's
momentum for a n "increase in mass". Mr Ajay Sharma perpetrates the
same gross mistakes over 28 pages of torture replete with
misunderstandings, errors and slanders to Einstein's work.
Mr.Sharma is attempting to convince the reader that he has found errors
in Einstein's work (there aren't any) and that he is "completing"
Einstein's "unfinished " work. In reality, Einstein's work is correct
and complete while Ajay Sharma's is full with elementary errors.
The tone of the paper is as arrogant as it is ignorant, Ajay Sharma
simply does not understand one of the basic laws of physics: the law of
conservation of momentum which is conspicously absent from his
so-called "discovery"
Ajay Sharma paper "100 Years of E=Mc2" turns out to be a hoax.
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I advise you read 11th physics and Momemtum conservation then try to
undersand the this post .
With other name you calimed in June 2006 , you will contradict my work
in journals , but it did not happen.
But you did now wrie real name now.
It is like accepting defeat.
100 Years of E=mc2
(Book will be published in Dec. 2006 , By NOVA Science, New York,
USA)
http://physicsajay.sulekha.com/blog/post/2006/11/galileo-not-einstein...
1. What is E=mc2? What is its importance?
E=mc2 is the most wonderful and significant equation is physics. In
1945 the explosion of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were base
upon this equation. According to this mass (m) can be converted to
energy (E) and energy can be converted to mass.
Einstein's 27 Sep 1905 paper available at
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/
2. This equation is doing well since past 100 years then where is the
inconsistency?
The inconsistency lies in its mathematical derivation (a method to
obtain a mathematical equation). In his 1905 paper Einstein did not
derive it mathematically but in true sense speculated it. Einstein
earlier derived L = mc2 (light energy mass conversion equation). Then
Einstein speculated that what is true for light energy (L) the same is
true for every energy (E). This speculation results in E=mc2, such a
significant equation must be based upon a specific mathematical
derivation and not on speculation.
3. Is Einstein's derivation of L =mc2 correct?
The derivation of L=mc2 is incomplete or true in special conditions
only. Einstein took just handpicked parameters out of numerous
possible, to obtain the equation. Einstein was aware of the reality so
he left in midway after getting the desired result. If all valid
values of parameters are taken, then results are contradictory in
nature.
4. What are contradictory results?
Some UNDISCUSSED predictions of Einstein's 29 Sep. 1905 derivation
blatantly contradict Law of Conservation of Matter. I have
scientifically confirmed the same. No limitation can be bigger than
this in science.
5. Was E=mc2 or similar ideas existed before Einstein?
Yes, E=mc2 existed before Einstein. An Italian Olinto de Pretto
published E=mc2 in valid scientific journal Lettere ed Atti, Feb. 1904,
two years before Einstein. But Pretto died in 1921, before its
experimental confirmation in nuclear physics.
6. Einstein speculated E=mc2 from L=mc2. What is the problem here?
Firstly derivation of L=mc2 is incomplete or under special conditions
only.
For examples there are many variables in Einstein's derivation e.g.
number of light waves emitted by body, magnitude of light energy, angle
at which light energy is emitted and relative velocity v. Einstein just
took handpicked values of variables.
If general values of variables are
taken then results are contradictory to experiments.
Secondly Einstein originated E=mc2 on the basis of speculation only
without any conceptual and mathematical basis. Basically Einstein
replaced L by E in equation L=mc2 to get E=mc2.
7. Then how did you derive new equation, dE =Ac2dm (or DE = Ac2 DM )?
I have derived new equation between mass-energy conservation by simple
calculus method. In dE =Ac2dm, A is a co-efficient of proportionality
like numerous others in science. It is dimensionless variable.
Sharma June 2004 paper is available
http://www.burningbrain.org/pdf/ajaysharma_einstein.pdf
8. How do you compare these two equations?
Firstly dE =Ac2dm is based upon a conceptual and mathematical
derivation. On the other hand E=mc2 is a speculation, it is bitter
truth. Secondly dE =Ac2dm is a general equation and E=mc2 is its
special case. Energy emitted by new equation can be less, equal to or
more than predicted by E=mc2.
9. How did you justify your equation experimentally?
In Nuclear Physics there are some anomalous results which cannot be
explained by E=mc2 . Like this there are some instances in
astrophysics where my equation is extremely useful.
10. Is your work recognized by international scientific community?
Yes, it is completely recognized, as published in peer review journals.
11 Have you got any recognition certificate from the scientific
community?
The only way to get scientific recognition is that to get the work
published in peer review international journals and conferences. My
research papers are either published in international journals from
America, England and Canada or being published. I have got invitation
from at least 55 International Conferences to present my work. I have
presented my research in international conferences in USA, England,
Germany, Taiwan Ukraine etc. I have invitation from France and Italy
to present my work this year.
[b]Still there ANYONE is welcome to COMMENT on the work in Physics
Essays giving the facts e.g.
What is Einstein's Sep 1905 paper ?
What are conditions under which it is derived?
Under what conditions experimentally it holds good?
How to generalize it under all conditions?
What is Ajay Sharma's Interpretation?
How Ajay Sharma's paper is different from Einstein's Sep 1905
paper
How Ajay Sharma's interpretation is incorrect (if it)?
What are the correct interpretations?
I HAVE ANSWERS TO ALL QUESTIONS.
If Editor Physics Essays and his Editorial Board finds your
interpretation and published the paper it is OK.
All the references are given below for the purpose.
There may be back door critics but none of the scientists have dared to
write to scientific bodies or journals Editors , that Ajay Sharma's
work is incorrectly published.
12. Can this work be introduced in Schools and colleges?
Yes my wok is scientifically approved in journal in USA, CANADA and
England. Hence it can be so done by any country. IT IS THE IMPORTANCE
OF THE WORK.
13. How do you counter the opposition of the people which has come in
you your way?
Science is the international language. For this, I take seriously the
logical conclusions of the critics. I completely ignore the
irresponsible critics, as they don't exist.
The critics when understand the things become my supporters.
14. What about your book, 100 Years of E=mc2?
This book will be published in Dec. 2006
It will bring clear and unbiased picture of the facts.
The contents of book are already approved by expert scientists after
PEER REVIEW and published in international journals and conferences
..The book is meant for general public who is interested in basic
science. This book will status as Newton's Principia or Galileo's
Dialogue have in science.
Book Link :
https://www.novapublishers.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23_48_3...
Interviewer Rajesh Thakoor Email
References of Einstein's work
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A.Einstein, Annalen der Physik 18 (1905) 639-641.
.. DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND
UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?
Weblink is
Einstein's 27 Sep 1905 paper available at
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/
PartII
References of Ajay Sharma's work
My work is available at
A. Sharma, Physics Essays, 17 (2004) 195-222.
"The Origin of Generalized Mass-Energy Equation ?E = Ac2 ?M; and
its applications in General physics and Cosmology".
http://www.burningbrain.org/pdf/ajaysharma_einstein.pdf
For details
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International Conferences
It has been accepted for presentation over 55 conferences all over the
world
--------------------------------------few of them
1. Sharma, A. presented in 19th International Conference on the
Applications of Accelerators in Research and Industry , 20-25
August , 2006 Fort Worth Texas, USA
2. A. Sharma, Abstract Book 38th European Group of Atomic Systems
(
Euro physics Conference) Isachia (Naples) Italy (2006) 53.
3. A. Sharma , Abstract Book , A Century After Einstein Physics 2005 ,
10-14 April 2005 ( Organizer Institute of Physics , Bristol )
University of Warwick , ENGLAND
4. A. Sharma presented in 5th British gravity Conference , OXFORD
ENGLAND
5. A. Sharma,. Proc. Int. Conf. on Computational Methods in
Sciences and Engineering 2003 World Scientific Co. USA ,
(2003) 585.
6. A. Sharma, Proc. Int. Conf. on Number, Time, Relativity United
Physical Society of Russian Federation, Moscow , (2004) 81
plus more
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Journals
This paper
"The Origin of Generalized Mass-Energy Equation ?E = Ac2 ?M; and
its applications in General physics and Cosmology".
is published in journal
Physics Essays , CANADA
www.physicsessays.com
The paper
The past, present and future of E=mc2
will be published in 2007 Galilean Electrodynamics, Massachusetts,
USA.
In parts it is published in various others journals.
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Book 100 Years of E=mc2
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05 Nov 2006 12:03:26 PM |
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The principle of relativity was hardly new in 1905. Einstein just
updated it. I'll bet that next you're going to say he didn't invent
the equivalence principle either. And you'd be right, but still
barking up the wrong tree.
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