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"Kowstue" |
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20 Sep 2007 08:45:08 AM |
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Ghosts in Hilbert Space |
Ghosts and spirits are special elements in Hilbert Space
that hasn't yet been explored by physicists.
You commonly hear about wave and particle dualities but
there is exception.
Ghosts are all waves and no particles. It can interact with
the wave functions of objects.
I'm a ghostbuster and exorcist. To remove ghosts or
spirits attaching to the wave function of your body for
example. I emit a bohmian high frequency wave function
that disengage the spirits wave function hold on your body.
Got it?
Anyway. Anyone can help write mathematical expressions
for ghosts? Successful parties can get a free ipod as reward
or free exorcism or ghostbusting in your or a friend's haunted
house.
Kows
(Btw.. where is Bilge the Hilbert Space specialist. I think
he can create the mathematics for ghosts. I plan to hire him.
where is he? Is he ok?)
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: Ghosts in Hilbert Space |
20 Sep 2007 10:16:35 AM |
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Kowstue wrote:
Ghosts and spirits are special elements in Hilbert Space
that hasn't yet been explored by physicists.
[snip crap]
Take the escalator up a floor. You'll be in the outhouse basement.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Ghosts in Hilbert Space |
21 Sep 2007 01:28:50 AM |
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On Sep 20, 2:45 pm, Kowstue <kows...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ghosts and spirits are special elements in Hilbert Space
that hasn't yet been explored by physicists.
You commonly hear about wave and particle dualities but
there is exception.
Ghosts are all waves and no particles. It can interact with
the wave functions of objects.
I'm a ghostbuster and exorcist. To remove ghosts or
spirits attaching to the wave function of your body for
example. I emit a bohmian high frequency wave function
that disengage the spirits wave function hold on your body.
Got it?
Anyway. Anyone can help write mathematical expressions
for ghosts? Successful parties can get a free ipod as reward
or free exorcism or ghostbusting in your or a friend's haunted
house.
Kows
(Btw.. where is Bilge the Hilbert Space specialist. I think
he can create the mathematics for ghosts. I plan to hire him.
where is he? Is he ok?)
Are you familiar with the notion of a collective unconscious, and a
collective subconscious and the like?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_unconscious
Human brains are electro-chemical and they give off wave energy, and
it forms the collective unconscious, in the same way that a neural
net, forms with computers.
So we have a large neural network, and that network, itself, is
conscious. It has consciousness. It can think.
And it also appears to have access to some super quantum computer
elsewhere.
Perhaps even in another solar system, or even on the galactic or
universal scale. It may be part of a larger collective.
Wherever this may be, this collective unconscious of ours, has some
storage capacity that is beyond a human lifetime.
It stores data, on almost everything and everyone.
So all a ghost is, is when it uses its memory and its power, to create
the imagery of known persons. It knows them from when they were alive,
and it can recreate them in the ether, as a ghost.
And the reason I know this, is I have seen the ghosts of people who I
know, who were not dead.
ipso-facto, they were being recreated like a hologram out of the air
and moisture in the air, and that sort of thing.
If you mean the people themselves, who passed on to the other side,
who appear to be still alive and yet have no physical bodies, then
they are part of that neural network, with their consciousness
preserved within it.
Still as individuals, but with their personality, and memories, stored
in some computer network, somewhere.
Is it in Hilbert Space?
I think that we have access to Hilbert space, through our mental
processes, but it seems to me, that there may be some real
physicality, to the whole thing after all.
Somewhere out there, their may be huge storage banks, for our
memories, and for our own personality traits, those things which make
us unique.
And then when we are reincarnated, we merely get that put back fresh.
You know, we get the operating system, (the autonomic system) and we
get our software programs, (our id, ego, and super-ego)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id%2C_ego%2C_and_super-ego
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomic_nervous_system
Within that you have the reptilian part of the brain, which governs
our instinctual behavior, then you have the cerebral cortex, which
governs higher thought. (left brain and right brain activities etc)
All this adds up to a biological robot, with software for a brain, and
uniqueness which is preserved, as information, which we refer to as
our spirit.
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| User: "" |
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21 Sep 2007 02:08:50 AM |
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On Sep 21, 7:28 am, wrote:
On Sep 20, 2:45 pm, Kowstue <kows...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ghosts and spirits are special elements in Hilbert Space
that hasn't yet been explored by physicists.
You commonly hear about wave and particle dualities but
there is exception.
Ghosts are all waves and no particles. It can interact with
the wave functions of objects.
I'm a ghostbuster and exorcist. To remove ghosts or
spirits attaching to the wave function of your body for
example. I emit a bohmian high frequency wave function
that disengage the spirits wave function hold on your body.
Got it?
Anyway. Anyone can help write mathematical expressions
for ghosts? Successful parties can get a free ipod as reward
or free exorcism or ghostbusting in your or a friend's haunted
house.
Kows
(Btw.. where is Bilge the Hilbert Space specialist. I think
he can create the mathematics for ghosts. I plan to hire him.
where is he? Is he ok?)
Are you familiar with the notion of a collective unconscious, and a
collective subconscious and the like?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_unconscious
Human brains are electro-chemical and they give off wave energy, and
it forms the collective unconscious, in the same way that a neural
net, forms with computers.
So we have a large neural network, and that network, itself, is
conscious. It has consciousness. It can think.
And it also appears to have access to some super quantum computer
elsewhere.
Perhaps even in another solar system, or even on the galactic or
universal scale. It may be part of a larger collective.
Wherever this may be, this collective unconscious of ours, has some
storage capacity that is beyond a human lifetime.
It stores data, on almost everything and everyone.
So all a ghost is, is when it uses its memory and its power, to create
the imagery of known persons. It knows them from when they were alive,
and it can recreate them in the ether, as a ghost.
And the reason I know this, is I have seen the ghosts of people who I
know, who were not dead.
ipso-facto, they were being recreated like a hologram out of the air
and moisture in the air, and that sort of thing.
If you mean the people themselves, who passed on to the other side,
who appear to be still alive and yet have no physical bodies, then
they are part of that neural network, with their consciousness
preserved within it.
Still as individuals, but with their personality, and memories, stored
in some computer network, somewhere.
Is it in Hilbert Space?
I think that we have access to Hilbert space, through our mental
processes, but it seems to me, that there may be some real
physicality, to the whole thing after all.
Somewhere out there, their may be huge storage banks, for our
memories, and for our own personality traits, those things which make
us unique.
And then when we are reincarnated, we merely get that put back fresh.
You know, we get the operating system, (the autonomic system) and we
get our software programs, (our id, ego, and super-ego)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id%2C_ego%2C_and_super-egohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomic_nervous_system
Within that you have the reptilian part of the brain, which governs
our instinctual behavior, then you have the cerebral cortex, which
governs higher thought. (left brain and right brain activities etc)
All this adds up to a biological robot, with software for a brain, and
uniqueness which is preserved, as information, which we refer to as
our spirit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_network
It works like this....
You have a body, and an autonomic system, but you can move your
muscles.
So your brain is equipped with an instruction set, that tells you how
to do that, and it stores memories, and it sorts out and analyzes the
data.
Then it also has its own rule set, that it learns, as neural networks
can learn, and remember, and retrieve data.
We form our own set of rules that help us to get by in the world, and
we usually call these morals and ethics.
Thats the high part of the whole system, trying to avoid pain,
basically and enjoy pleasure.
Now there are different types of pains and pleasures, but each of us,
are led to what we want, what feels good to us, by our physicality,
our biology, and our influences, that come from the collective
unconscious.
And because of the complexity, free will arises because we get to
choose between things.
Emotions as well are tied in with our higher functions. We have fight
or flight in the reptilian part of our brain, and we have love and
melancholy and these sorts of things arise out of our awareness of how
things work.
It is an anticipation, because we can predict what might happen. We
anticipate things at a higher level, and these end up looking like
emotions. We also have an imagination, which is our ability to
simulate situations, using thought, in our own computational ways,
perhaps even accessing the neural network and using some of its
computer power to do so.
But we don't calculate things when we are doing it. We may calculate
math problems using our mind's eye, but the process by which we use
the imagination, is just a natural process. We just instinctually know
how to do that.
Someone wrote the code for all this.
It did not happen in a scum filled pond.
The scum in the scum filled pond, will never with lightning heat and
time, turn into a Boeing 747.
You do not find aircraft or computers forming in rock by themselves,
and we are much much more advanced, than any mechanical system like
that.
Do you think if you throw your computer in the scum filled pond, it
will get a better operating system?
How could it?
Software is digitally encoded information.
DNA is digitally encoded information.
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| User: "Kowstue" |
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| Title: Re: Ghosts in Hilbert Space |
21 Sep 2007 05:05:16 AM |
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On Sep 21, 3:08 pm, wrote:
On Sep 21, 7:28 am, wrote:
On Sep 20, 2:45 pm, Kowstue <kows...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ghosts and spirits are special elements in Hilbert Space
that hasn't yet been explored by physicists.
You commonly hear about wave and particle dualities but
there is exception.
Ghosts are all waves and no particles. It can interact with
the wave functions of objects.
I'm a ghostbuster and exorcist. To remove ghosts or
spirits attaching to the wave function of your body for
example. I emit a bohmian high frequency wave function
that disengage the spirits wave function hold on your body.
Got it?
Anyway. Anyone can help write mathematical expressions
for ghosts? Successful parties can get a free ipod as reward
or free exorcism or ghostbusting in your or a friend's haunted
house.
Kows
(Btw.. where is Bilge the Hilbert Space specialist. I think
he can create the mathematics for ghosts. I plan to hire him.
where is he? Is he ok?)
Are you familiar with the notion of a collective unconscious, and a
collective subconscious and the like?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_unconscious
Human brains are electro-chemical and they give off wave energy, and
it forms the collective unconscious, in the same way that a neural
net, forms with computers.
So we have a large neural network, and that network, itself, is
conscious. It has consciousness. It can think.
And it also appears to have access to some super quantum computer
elsewhere.
Perhaps even in another solar system, or even on the galactic or
universal scale. It may be part of a larger collective.
Wherever this may be, this collective unconscious of ours, has some
storage capacity that is beyond a human lifetime.
It stores data, on almost everything and everyone.
So all a ghost is, is when it uses its memory and its power, to create
the imagery of known persons. It knows them from when they were alive,
and it can recreate them in the ether, as a ghost.
If only there is aether. Things would be easier to explain. But there
is no aether. Instead what we are supposed to have is a spacetime
deprived of any substance that obeys diffiiomorphism invariance.
Not only that. But we also have just maxwell equations and
nothing beyond it, nothing at all to explain what is a ghost, etc..
We are like in the medieval age. Quantum gravity would be the
start of the path to a greater science. So you see. The path
is so hard and difficult. Maybe we just need to learn how to call it
quits, forget this desire to know more, to gain wisdom.
Say. Try not to write so much in a string of messages. I'm not a
genius
like you who can absorb them at once.
Anyway. I think I just have to forget about ghosts and get to other
hobbies
like dealing with the mentally insane and understanding the
neurological correlates. This is more fruitful than trying to
understand
and bring future science (24th century physics) to the present, isn't
it.
Lastly, what you wrote doesn't make any sense. An EM wave
that can be stored as neural network in spacetime is a pipe dream.
You need to make extra assumptions and this would bring you
right to the 24th century physics and the insanity of figure it all
out.
kow
And the reason I know this, is I have seen the ghosts of people who I
know, who were not dead.
ipso-facto, they were being recreated like a hologram out of the air
and moisture in the air, and that sort of thing.
If you mean the people themselves, who passed on to the other side,
who appear to be still alive and yet have no physical bodies, then
they are part of that neural network, with their consciousness
preserved within it.
Still as individuals, but with their personality, and memories, stored
in some computer network, somewhere.
Is it in Hilbert Space?
I think that we have access to Hilbert space, through our mental
processes, but it seems to me, that there may be some real
physicality, to the whole thing after all.
Somewhere out there, their may be huge storage banks, for our
memories, and for our own personality traits, those things which make
us unique.
And then when we are reincarnated, we merely get that put back fresh.
You know, we get the operating system, (the autonomic system) and we
get our software programs, (our id, ego, and super-ego)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id%2C_ego%2C_and_super-egohttp://en.wiki...
Within that you have the reptilian part of the brain, which governs
our instinctual behavior, then you have the cerebral cortex, which
governs higher thought. (left brain and right brain activities etc)
All this adds up to a biological robot, with software for a brain, and
uniqueness which is preserved, as information, which we refer to as
our spirit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_network
It works like this....
You have a body, and an autonomic system, but you can move your
muscles.
So your brain is equipped with an instruction set, that tells you how
to do that, and it stores memories, and it sorts out and analyzes the
data.
Then it also has its own rule set, that it learns, as neural networks
can learn, and remember, and retrieve data.
We form our own set of rules that help us to get by in the world, and
we usually call these morals and ethics.
Thats the high part of the whole system, trying to avoid pain,
basically and enjoy pleasure.
Now there are different types of pains and pleasures, but each of us,
are led to what we want, what feels good to us, by our physicality,
our biology, and our influences, that come from the collective
unconscious.
And because of the complexity, free will arises because we get to
choose between things.
Emotions as well are tied in with our higher functions. We have fight
or flight in the reptilian part of our brain, and we have love and
melancholy and these sorts of things arise out of our awareness of how
things work.
It is an anticipation, because we can predict what might happen. We
anticipate things at a higher level, and these end up looking like
emotions. We also have an imagination, which is our ability to
simulate situations, using thought, in our own computational ways,
perhaps even accessing the neural network and using some of its
computer power to do so.
But we don't calculate things when we are doing it. We may calculate
math problems using our mind's eye, but the process by which we use
the imagination, is just a natural process. We just instinctually know
how to do that.
Someone wrote the code for all this.
It did not happen in a scum filled pond.
The scum in the scum filled pond, will never with lightning heat and
time, turn into a Boeing 747.
You do not find aircraft or computers forming in rock by themselves,
and we are much much more advanced, than any mechanical system like
that.
Do you think if you throw your computer in the scum filled pond, it
will get a better operating system?
How could it?
Software is digitally encoded information.
DNA is digitally encoded information.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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21 Sep 2007 02:52:51 PM |
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So all a ghost is, is when it uses its memory and its power, to create
the imagery of known persons. It knows them from when they were alive,
and it can recreate them in the ether, as a ghost.
If only there is aether. Things would be easier to explain. But there
is no aether. Instead what we are supposed to have is a spacetime
But Einstein only renamed the aether. He renamed it absolute space-
time. And if you examine Newton's bucket, the lesson there is that
motion and mass is relative to something. Something is causing drag.
That is absolute space in Newtonian physics and absolute space-time
with Einstein.
And there are two theories which examine what it might be. The Dirac
sea, and quantum foam.
"The Dirac sea is a theoretical model of the vacuum as an infinite sea
of particles possessing negative energy. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_sea
"Quantum foam, also referred to as spacetime foam, is a concept in
quantum mechanics, devised by John Wheeler in 1955. The foam is a
qualitative description of the turbulence that the phenomenon creates
at extremely small distances of the order of the Planck length."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_foam
At present, the Quantum foam is a better description. The Dirac Sea
seems to have failed with Bose-Einstein condensate experiments.
If you examine what happens when you spin a superfluid you get many
smaller vortices instead of one large vortex as you do when you spin a
bucket full of water.
http://ltl.tkk.fi/research/theory/vortex.html
That is because the underlying stuff of space-time, is grainy, and so
the quantum foam, as foam bubbles is a close approximation to that.
So we know there is an ether. It is just not like the luminiferous
aether, they used to think that it was. They thought it was a
stationary jello, and that light was a light ray.
Well we know that light is a wave, and the jello is not stationary. It
flows in great rivers and is churning up around massive bodies and it
has high and low pressure areas.
We know that it flows in rivers, because galaxies, flow in huge
rivers.
deprived of any substance that obeys diffiiomorphism invariance.
Not only that. But we also have just maxwell equations and
nothing beyond it, nothing at all to explain what is a ghost, etc..
We are like in the medieval age. Quantum gravity would be the
start of the path to a greater science. So you see. The path
is so hard and difficult. Maybe we just need to learn how to call it
quits, forget this desire to know more, to gain wisdom.
Say. Try not to write so much in a string of messages. I'm not a
genius
like you who can absorb them at once.
If I quote the basic premise instead of just quoting the page, you can
ignore th elink, unless you want more information.
Anyway. I think I just have to forget about ghosts and get to other
hobbies
like dealing with the mentally insane and understanding the
neurological correlates. This is more fruitful than trying to
understand
and bring future science (24th century physics) to the present, isn't
it.
Well people have come a long way towards understanding mental
processes, by examining human brains. They know a lot about how the
brain works and which area does what, and how it functions. There are
some things still not understood, such as how a person who loses most
of their brain in trauma can still carry on and those remaining bits,
will do the work that all the other areas used to do.
Yet in some cases, a mere chemical imbalance can upset the works.
Nonetheless, there are Gods above us, who can use the quantum mind,
use the huge human neural network and use their own larger conscious
power, to overcome any individual node. Any person. And make them do
exactly what they want them to do, including go in a shoot up a
school. The Gods will do, what the Gods will do, and we can do nothing
about that any more than a mouse can stop a cat, or a pheasant can
stop a combine.
We just say those people lost it. They went insane. That is because we
don't like to admit, that we are not the top of the food chain. And
what would happen is people would do things and expect to get away
with it, by saying God made me do it.
So we just deny that they interfered, and we call that mental illness.
In some cases it might be, but not in all cases.
So we are here as humans not even of our own choice. We just wake up
in a body, as a child.
Lastly, what you wrote doesn't make any sense. An EM wave
that can be stored as neural network in spacetime is a pipe dream.
It is stored in the brain's of people. In everyone's memory banks. You
and I. We make up the neural network.
And we have the Internet and libraries that augment all that.
Then you have the possibility that since em waves travel forever
outward at the speed of light, they are received, by some advanced
minder race, our creators if you will. The people who seeded the
planet. Who knows.
But collectively a neural net is made of individual nodes, and that is
us in part.
You need to make extra assumptions and this would bring you
right to the 24th century physics and the insanity of figure it all
out.
Well it helps to simplify terms to get an overall picture. Science is
always over complicated by terms.
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| User: "Kowstue" |
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| Title: Re: Ghosts in Hilbert Space |
21 Sep 2007 05:57:48 PM |
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On Sep 22, 3:52 am, wrote:
So all a ghost is, is when it uses its memory and its power, to create
the imagery of known persons. It knows them from when they were alive,
and it can recreate them in the ether, as a ghost.
If only there is aether. Things would be easier to explain. But there
is no aether. Instead what we are supposed to have is a spacetime
But Einstein only renamed the aether. He renamed it absolute space-
time. And if you examine Newton's bucket, the lesson there is that
motion and mass is relative to something. Something is causing drag.
That is absolute space in Newtonian physics and absolute space-time
with Einstein.
Einstein didn't just rename the aether, he annihilated it. Relativity
is
opposite to aether. What is causing drag and inertia is not newton's
absolute space but stress energy tensor as well as Mach like stuff.
Aether is about a privileged frame of reference. Relativity has no
privileged frame. You cant treat the absolute space-time as privileged
frame because it is a step or class higher. Try to review Einstein
idea
of a box within a box and how to frame motions in it.
And there are two theories which examine what it might be. The Dirac
sea, and quantum foam.
"The Dirac sea is a theoretical model of the vacuum as an infinite sea
of particles possessing negative energy. "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_sea
The negative energy stuff is phased out already. There are some
problems with it. Instead what we have are all positive states like
electron and positron although positron can still be electrons
travelling back in time Feynman style.
"Quantum foam, also referred to as spacetime foam, is a concept in
quantum mechanics, devised by John Wheeler in 1955. The foam is a
qualitative description of the turbulence that the phenomenon creates
at extremely small distances of the order of the Planck length."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_foam
At present, the Quantum foam is a better description. The Dirac Sea
seems to have failed with Bose-Einstein condensate experiments.
If you examine what happens when you spin a superfluid you get many
smaller vortices instead of one large vortex as you do when you spin a
bucket full of water.http://ltl.tkk.fi/research/theory/vortex.html
That is because the underlying stuff of space-time, is grainy, and so
the quantum foam, as foam bubbles is a close approximation to that.
Hmm...
So we know there is an ether. It is just not like the luminiferous
aether, they used to think that it was. They thought it was a
stationary jello, and that light was a light ray.
Well we know that light is a wave, and the jello is not stationary. It
flows in great rivers and is churning up around massive bodies and it
has high and low pressure areas.
You can't have something in spacetime that can move as it would
produce a privileged frame, something that experiments haven't
detected. And it makes no sense that nature would try all sorts
of means to hide it (Lorentz Aether Theory for example).
We know that it flows in rivers, because galaxies, flow in huge
rivers.
deprived of any substance that obeys diffiiomorphism invariance.
Not only that. But we also have just maxwell equations and
nothing beyond it, nothing at all to explain what is a ghost, etc..
We are like in the medieval age. Quantum gravity would be the
start of the path to a greater science. So you see. The path
is so hard and difficult. Maybe we just need to learn how to call it
quits, forget this desire to know more, to gain wisdom.
Say. Try not to write so much in a string of messages. I'm not a
genius
like you who can absorb them at once.
If I quote the basic premise instead of just quoting the page, you can
ignore th elink, unless you want more information.
Anyway. I think I just have to forget about ghosts and get to other
hobbies
like dealing with the mentally insane and understanding the
neurological correlates. This is more fruitful than trying to
understand
and bring future science (24th century physics) to the present, isn't
it.
Well people have come a long way towards understanding mental
processes, by examining human brains. They know a lot about how the
brain works and which area does what, and how it functions. There are
some things still not understood, such as how a person who loses most
of their brain in trauma can still carry on and those remaining bits,
will do the work that all the other areas used to do.
I'm presently studying brain plasticity. You know what. We can spend
a lifetime trying to understand the quantum and get nowhere. If we
spend the energies elsewhere. We can gain much knowledge about
the brain for example and manipulate it at will doubling IQ and stuff
or even our lifespan. For example. Einstein spent 40 years on wild
goose chase on unified field theory. In less than half the time. James
Watson discovered DNA and changed history. If Einstein spent his
time on genetic research. He could gain much more. So let's not
waste time chasing pipe dreams. Einstein misses the weak and
strong force so unification was not possible. Likewise now, we miss
so many key things and ingredients and so the Theory of Everything
would be a distant future event. Only crackpots study this and
we have load of it here in this newsgroup.
Yet in some cases, a mere chemical imbalance can upset the works.
Nonetheless, there are Gods above us, who can use the quantum mind,
use the huge human neural network and use their own larger conscious
power, to overcome any individual node. Any person. And make them do
exactly what they want them to do, including go in a shoot up a
school. The Gods will do, what the Gods will do, and we can do nothing
about that any more than a mouse can stop a cat, or a pheasant can
stop a combine.
We just say those people lost it. They went insane. That is because we
don't like to admit, that we are not the top of the food chain. And
what would happen is people would do things and expect to get away
with it, by saying God made me do it.
So we just deny that they interfered, and we call that mental illness.
In some cases it might be, but not in all cases.
So we are here as humans not even of our own choice. We just wake up
in a body, as a child.
Lastly, what you wrote doesn't make any sense. An EM wave
that can be stored as neural network in spacetime is a pipe dream.
It is stored in the brain's of people. In everyone's memory banks. You
and I. We make up the neural network.
And we have the Internet and libraries that augment all that.
Come on. If that is true. Then radio waves can be read and stored
in people's brain and from the tetrabytes of info every minute in
the airwave, it should overload people's brain.
kows
Then you have the possibility that since em waves travel forever
outward at the speed of light, they are received, by some advanced
minder race, our creators if you will. The people who seeded the
planet. Who knows.
But collectively a neural net is made of individual nodes, and that is
us in part.
You need to make extra assumptions and this would bring you
right to the 24th century physics and the insanity of figure it all
out.
Well it helps to simplify terms to get an overall picture. Science is
always over complicated by terms.
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| User: "Kowstue" |
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| Title: Re: Ghosts in Hilbert Space |
21 Sep 2007 05:37:25 PM |
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On Sep 22, 3:52 am, wrote:
So all a ghost is, is when it uses its memory and its power, to create
the imagery of known persons. It knows them from when they were alive,
and it can recreate them in the ether, as a ghost.
If only there is aether. Things would be easier to explain. But there
is no aether. Instead what we are supposed to have is a spacetime
But Einstein only renamed the aether. He renamed it absolute space-
time. And if you examine Newton's bucket, the lesson there is that
motion and mass is relative to something. Something is causing drag.
That is absolute space in Newtonian physics and absolute space-time
with Einstein.
And there are two theories which examine what it might be. The Dirac
sea, and quantum foam.
"The Dirac sea is a theoretical model of the vacuum as an infinite sea
of particles possessing negative energy. "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_sea
"Quantum foam, also referred to as spacetime foam, is a concept in
quantum mechanics, devised by John Wheeler in 1955. The foam is a
qualitative description of the turbulence that the phenomenon creates
at extremely small distances of the order of the Planck length."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_foam
At present, the Quantum foam is a better description. The Dirac Sea
seems to have failed with Bose-Einstein condensate experiments.
If you examine what happens when you spin a superfluid you get many
smaller vortices instead of one large vortex as you do when you spin a
bucket full of water.http://ltl.tkk.fi/research/theory/vortex.html
That is because the underlying stuff of space-time, is grainy, and so
the quantum foam, as foam bubbles is a close approximation to that.
So we know there is an ether. It is just not like the luminiferous
aether, they used to think that it was. They thought it was a
stationary jello, and that light was a light ray.
Well we know that light is a wave, and the jello is not stationary. It
flows in great rivers and is churning up around massive bodies and it
has high and low pressure areas.
We know that it flows in rivers, because galaxies, flow in huge
rivers.
deprived of any substance that obeys diffiiomorphism invariance.
Not only that. But we also have just maxwell equations and
nothing beyond it, nothing at all to explain what is a ghost, etc..
We are like in the medieval age. Quantum gravity would be the
start of the path to a greater science. So you see. The path
is so hard and difficult. Maybe we just need to learn how to call it
quits, forget this desire to know more, to gain wisdom.
Say. Try not to write so much in a string of messages. I'm not a
genius
like you who can absorb them at once.
If I quote the basic premise instead of just quoting the page, you can
ignore th elink, unless you want more information.
Anyway. I think I just have to forget about ghosts and get to other
hobbies
like dealing with the mentally insane and understanding the
neurological correlates. This is more fruitful than trying to
understand
and bring future science (24th century physics) to the present, isn't
it.
Well people have come a long way towards understanding mental
processes, by examining human brains. They know a lot about how the
brain works and which area does what, and how it functions. There are
some things still not understood, such as how a person who loses most
of their brain in trauma can still carry on and those remaining bits,
will do the work that all the other areas used to do.
Yet in some cases, a mere chemical imbalance can upset the works.
Nonetheless, there are Gods above us, who can use the quantum mind,
use the huge human neural network and use their own larger conscious
power, to overcome any individual node. Any person. And make them do
exactly what they want them to do, including go in a shoot up a
school. The Gods will do, what the Gods will do, and we can do nothing
about that any more than a mouse can stop a cat, or a pheasant can
stop a combine.
We just say those people lost it. They went insane. That is because we
don't like to admit, that we are not the top of the food chain. And
what would happen is people would do things and expect to get away
with it, by saying God made me do it.
So we just deny that they interfered, and we call that mental illness.
In some cases it might be, but not in all cases.
So we are here as humans not even of our own choice. We just wake up
in a body, as a child.
Lastly, what you wrote doesn't make any sense. An EM wave
that can be stored as neural network in spacetime is a pipe dream.
It is stored in the brain's of people. In everyone's memory banks. You
and I. We make up the neural network.
And we have the Internet and libraries that augment all that.
Then you have the possibility that since em waves travel forever
outward at the speed of light, they are received, by some advanced
minder race, our creators if you will. The people who seeded the
planet. Who knows.
But collectively a neural net is made of individual nodes, and that is
us in part.
You need to make extra assumptions and this would bring you
right to the 24th century physics and the insanity of figure it all
out.
Well it helps to simplify terms to get an overall picture. Science is
always over complicated by terms.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Ghosts in Hilbert Space |
21 Sep 2007 02:15:41 AM |
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On Sep 21, 8:08 am, wrote:
On Sep 21, 7:28 am, wrote:
On Sep 20, 2:45 pm, Kowstue <kows...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ghosts and spirits are special elements in Hilbert Space
that hasn't yet been explored by physicists.
You commonly hear about wave and particle dualities but
there is exception.
Ghosts are all waves and no particles. It can interact with
the wave functions of objects.
I'm a ghostbuster and exorcist. To remove ghosts or
spirits attaching to the wave function of your body for
example. I emit a bohmian high frequency wave function
that disengage the spirits wave function hold on your body.
Got it?
Anyway. Anyone can help write mathematical expressions
for ghosts? Successful parties can get a free ipod as reward
or free exorcism or ghostbusting in your or a friend's haunted
house.
Kows
(Btw.. where is Bilge the Hilbert Space specialist. I think
he can create the mathematics for ghosts. I plan to hire him.
where is he? Is he ok?)
Are you familiar with the notion of a collective unconscious, and a
collective subconscious and the like?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_unconscious
Human brains are electro-chemical and they give off wave energy, and
it forms the collective unconscious, in the same way that a neural
net, forms with computers.
So we have a large neural network, and that network, itself, is
conscious. It has consciousness. It can think.
And it also appears to have access to some super quantum computer
elsewhere.
Perhaps even in another solar system, or even on the galactic or
universal scale. It may be part of a larger collective.
Wherever this may be, this collective unconscious of ours, has some
storage capacity that is beyond a human lifetime.
It stores data, on almost everything and everyone.
So all a ghost is, is when it uses its memory and its power, to create
the imagery of known persons. It knows them from when they were alive,
and it can recreate them in the ether, as a ghost.
And the reason I know this, is I have seen the ghosts of people who I
know, who were not dead.
ipso-facto, they were being recreated like a hologram out of the air
and moisture in the air, and that sort of thing.
If you mean the people themselves, who passed on to the other side,
who appear to be still alive and yet have no physical bodies, then
they are part of that neural network, with their consciousness
preserved within it.
Still as individuals, but with their personality, and memories, stored
in some computer network, somewhere.
Is it in Hilbert Space?
I think that we have access to Hilbert space, through our mental
processes, but it seems to me, that there may be some real
physicality, to the whole thing after all.
Somewhere out there, their may be huge storage banks, for our
memories, and for our own personality traits, those things which make
us unique.
And then when we are reincarnated, we merely get that put back fresh.
You know, we get the operating system, (the autonomic system) and we
get our software programs, (our id, ego, and super-ego)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id%2C_ego%2C_and_super-egohttp://en.wiki...
Within that you have the reptilian part of the brain, which governs
our instinctual behavior, then you have the cerebral cortex, which
governs higher thought. (left brain and right brain activities etc)
All this adds up to a biological robot, with software for a brain, and
uniqueness which is preserved, as information, which we refer to as
our spirit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_network
It works like this....
You have a body, and an autonomic system, but you can move your
muscles.
So your brain is equipped with an instruction set, that tells you how
to do that, and it stores memories, and it sorts out and analyzes the
data.
Then it also has its own rule set, that it learns, as neural networks
can learn, and remember, and retrieve data.
We form our own set of rules that help us to get by in the world, and
we usually call these morals and ethics.
Thats the high part of the whole system, trying to avoid pain,
basically and enjoy pleasure.
Now there are different types of pains and pleasures, but each of us,
are led to what we want, what feels good to us, by our physicality,
our biology, and our influences, that come from the collective
unconscious.
And because of the complexity, free will arises because we get to
choose between things.
Emotions as well are tied in with our higher functions. We have fight
or flight in the reptilian part of our brain, and we have love and
melancholy and these sorts of things arise out of our awareness of how
things work.
It is an anticipation, because we can predict what might happen. We
anticipate things at a higher level, and these end up looking like
emotions. We also have an imagination, which is our ability to
simulate situations, using thought, in our own computational ways,
perhaps even accessing the neural network and using some of its
computer power to do so.
But we don't calculate things when we are doing it. We may calculate
math problems using our mind's eye, but the process by which we use
the imagination, is just a natural process. We just instinctually know
how to do that.
Someone wrote the code for all this.
It did not happen in a scum filled pond.
The scum in the scum filled pond, will never with lightning heat and
time, turn into a Boeing 747.
You do not find aircraft or computers forming in rock by themselves,
and we are much much more advanced, than any mechanical system like
that.
Do you think if you throw your computer in the scum filled pond, it
will get a better operating system?
How could it?
Software is digitally encoded information.
DNA is digitally encoded information.
Do we get more intelligent, as there are more people on the earth, and
the collective neural net increases?
Would we be less intelligent, in a world that has far fewer human
brains?
These are interesting questions, but that depends on what you use a
scale of intelligence.
The Greek philosophers were very wise men. We still follow a lot of
their philosophy.
But we do not know, the reach of our collective unconscious neural
network, and if their philosophy didn't merely come from a larger
external collective, which we may have access to in dreams.
From out there.
And since regular information cannot exceed c, we have to assume that
some of our information is outside of space and time, which we have
access to, through Hilbert space.
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| User: "Igor" |
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| Title: Re: Ghosts in Hilbert Space |
20 Sep 2007 01:40:12 PM |
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On Sep 20, 9:45 am, Kowstue <kows...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ghosts and spirits are special elements in Hilbert Space
that hasn't yet been explored by physicists.
You commonly hear about wave and particle dualities but
there is exception.
Ghosts are all waves and no particles. It can interact with
the wave functions of objects.
I'm a ghostbuster and exorcist. To remove ghosts or
spirits attaching to the wave function of your body for
example. I emit a bohmian high frequency wave function
that disengage the spirits wave function hold on your body.
Got it?
Anyway. Anyone can help write mathematical expressions
for ghosts? Successful parties can get a free ipod as reward
or free exorcism or ghostbusting in your or a friend's haunted
house.
Kows
(Btw.. where is Bilge the Hilbert Space specialist. I think
he can create the mathematics for ghosts. I plan to hire him.
where is he? Is he ok?)
Are you referring to these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faddeev-Popov_ghost
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