<sir.jpturcaud@neuf.fr> wrote in message
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A view from the True Geology

I seem to recall your urgent warnings with regard to Australia last year.
What became of your predictions?

Dyl.

<sir.jpturcaud@neuf.fr> wrote in message
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A view from the True Geology

I seem to recall your urgent warnings with regard to Australia last
year. What became of your predictions?

Dyl.

<sir.jpturcaud@neuf.fr> wrote:

A view from the True Geology

"True Geology" - that's where I stopped reading.

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"sir.jpturcaud" <sir.jpturcaud@neuf.fr> wrote in message
news:1159871976.642011.312070@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com

In matter pertaining to real science, one should remember that
Simplicity is the key to Verity ...and in my view the drought &
bushfires are the cosnequences of ignorance & comptempt for Nature
laws. In this regard present fire season as I see it, could well
infringe into city and cut wide swathes of destruction into Perth,
Melbourne or Sydney.

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Mobile +33 650 171 464

Australia Mining Pioneer
Founder of the True Geology
http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/turcaud.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm

As per usual, you are being directly correct, that man's disregard for
our environment is multi-fold at nailing our own butts to the cross.
However, Earth has also been getting mooned by a great deal of
geophysical interaction, and even by way of a little spare IR/FIR
energy, that which simply didn't exist prior to the last ice age.

Earth w/o moon, w/o moon god and with less magnetosphere:

Firstly, I'd have to agree with many that Earth is not only quite a rare
but a rather damn lucky planet, especially since the gods of 'dumb luck
happenstance' gave us such a nifty moon (perhaps having also contributed
Venus from Sirius), hosting the right amount of salty ice and
representing just enough mascon/tidal energy to gradually thaw Earth
once and for all out from those deep cycles of having been so
extensively sub-frozen to death.

However, making a go of it without such a moon seems somewhat worse off
than merely remaining as extra cold and testy, whereas I'm thinking our
Earth would have remained extensively ice covered to nearly the 30
degree mark, of winters being absolutely horrific and of unbroken
sea-ice due to having so much less tidal differentials, other than a
slight solar tidal influence that simply wouldn't have represented all
that much.

Even though our global warming avenger "Roger Coppock" that's up against
the likes of most others as having been the typical all-knowing Usenet
naysayers of denial being in denial, whereas our Roger may seem a little
dumbfounded about the arrival of our somewhat salty and most likely icy
proto-moon of perhaps as great as 4000 km worth, that may have been
originally situated somewhat Sedna like, and simply affected by some
other impacting arrivals or greater mascon encounter as having a
sufficient influence. This external influence would have caused the
orbital diversion that brought us together, such as via the Sirius
star/solar system which I believe gets visited by our solar system
roughly every 105,000 years (more frequently in the distent past).
After all, Sedna itself gets to within 76 AU as is, and as such it would
not take all that much of an impact in order to cause that icy orb to
head directly our way, whereas if it were otherwise being dragged along
and/or intentionally deployed by an even greater mascon (such as Venus)
is only so much better yet.

Obviously something if not several extremely large items had impacted
our once upon a time icy moon, and quite possibly there's at least one
such impact that may have left it's mark in Earth as perhaps
representing the arctic ocean basin, as our arriving moon delivered a
glancing sucker punch of a blow to our extensively icy world.

All that Henry Kroll and myself can say with any reasonable certainty is
that our moon wasn't with us prior to 10,500 BC. However, I'd be very
interested to narrow that down to a specific decade or even a century,
whereas if Earth had been impacted by the arrival of such an icy moon,
chances are that most of the early human intelligent life upon Earth
went as deep as possible into hiding, as I would have, and I'd suppose
that the climate of Earth would have remained as somewhat nasty and
clouded over for a few centuries thereafter, which might further explain
as to why it took so long before that moon of ours to became noticed for
what it was.

Come to think (just a little further outside the box), our magnetosphere
might not have been nearly as extensive until after that Earth/moon
encounter. We've certainly been losing our magnetosphere potency by a
good .05%/yr, which might actually help us to establish the initial
timeline of the big event, of exactly when that moon of our impacted us.
-

Our moon is geophysically via mascon/tidal friction warming Earth rather
nicely as of the last ice age. As to what exact extent these
gravitational forces of such mascon induced tidal currents above and
below the surface are being converted into thermal energy may remain a
little fuzzy, but never the less it's an ongoing global warming factor
of such fuzzy logic that's telling us what's perfectly real and
happening to us, that's well above and beyond the ongoing impact of
modern humanity that has been clearly adding further trauma to our
environment.

Up until this last ice age, Earth's environment simply didn't have to
contend with that nearby moon of ours as of prior to 10,500 BC, just
that of our 100,000 and some odd year orbit of Sirius. If there were a
moon prior to 10,500 BC, as such it would have been included within many
of the artistic renderings of those tens of centuries of talented
artistic and otherwise serious records of those ice age and prior times
when humans had existed, and were otherwise good at depicting all that
was important to their survival. Some other research placed the
earliest depictions of a moon as late as 2000 BC, and for some odd
reason in never became a god moon.

Here's my two ballpark estimates of mascon/tidal warming that's roughly
between 0.01% and 0.1% of the 2e20 J / 9.80665 =3D 2.0395e19 kgf. It
could be a little greater, but it most certainly isn't anything much
less than the 0.01% mark.

0.1% of the associated 2e20 Joules =3D 390 w/m2 (plus whatever secondary
IR/FIR)

0.01% of the associated 2e20 Joules =3D 39 w/m2 (plus whatever secondary
IR/FIR)

Total change in greenhouse forcing from 1985 to 2004, we get 9.35 w/m2.


http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2005/05/10/global-warming-som=

Current Man-made Greenhouse Forcing to be 2.4 - 4.3 W/m2, Compared with
7.5 - 10 W/m2 Needed for Change of Seasons


http://www.globalwarming.net/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&task=3Dview&i=

Of course the really big guns of G8 remain in total denial, other than
having insisted it's all the fault of Muslims. There's lots of other
data that's nicely compiled by wikipedia.org, such as the 11 year solar
cycle that's worth +/- 0.05% or possibly at most +/- 0.1% of solar
irradiance, which pretty much eliminates that source of being the
problem. Whereas the global dimming via soot and particle factors may
be the ultimate culprit that diminishes our global albedo to a
sufficient extent that can be directly measured from space on a year by
year basis, and best yet as measured from our moon's L1 or alternately
via ACE that's halo parked in Earth's L1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

Therefore, on behalf of global warming, I'm giving humanity as little
credit as having a 10% responsibility, and that nasty moon of ours gets
the other 90% which only seems most likely, especially since the energy
cycle of having made warm waters to sub-frozen ice and then ice back
into warm water is so freaking horrific, especially if we're taking the
km3 volumes of said ice and frozen tundra into account.

At the very most I'd be giving humanity 25% responsibility for this
ongoing global warming fiasco, although either way of being 25% or as
little as 10% is still entirely worth our doing something about, such as
cutting that artificial impact in half seems perfectly doable, and as
such it's way more than beneficial in so many other positive ways, other
than moderating our fair share of this never ending cycle of global
warming via human pollution and arrogance. That is unless you're
perfectly good with your next 'Happy Meal' being a McJellyfish sandwich,
or perhaps biofuel via farmed jellyfish could actually work.
-
Brad Guth


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"sir.jpturcaud" <sir.jpturcaud@neuf.fr> wrote in message
news:1159871976.642011.312070@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com

In matter pertaining to real science, one should remember that
Simplicity is the key to Verity ...and in my view the drought &
bushfires are the cosnequences of ignorance & comptempt for Nature
laws. In this regard present fire season as I see it, could well
infringe into city and cut wide swathes of destruction into Perth,
Melbourne or Sydney.

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Mobile +33 650 171 464

Australia Mining Pioneer
Founder of the True Geology
http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/turcaud.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm

As per usual, you are being directly correct, that man's disregard for
our environment is multi-fold at nailing our own butts to the cross.
However, Earth has also been getting mooned by a great deal of
geophysical interaction, and even by way of a little spare IR/FIR
energy, that which simply didn't exist prior to the last ice age.

Earth w/o moon, w/o moon god and with less magnetosphere:

Firstly, I'd have to agree with many that Earth is not only quite a rare
but a rather damn lucky planet, especially since the gods of 'dumb luck
happenstance' gave us such a nifty moon (perhaps having also contributed
Venus from Sirius), hosting the right amount of salty ice and
representing just enough mascon/tidal energy to gradually thaw Earth
once and for all out from those deep cycles of having been so
extensively sub-frozen to death.

However, making a go of it without such a moon seems somewhat worse off
than merely remaining as extra cold and testy, whereas I'm thinking our
Earth would have remained extensively ice covered to nearly the 30
degree mark, of winters being absolutely horrific and of unbroken
sea-ice due to having so much less tidal differentials, other than a
slight solar tidal influence that simply wouldn't have represented all
that much.

Even though our global warming avenger "Roger Coppock" that's up against
the likes of most others as having been the typical all-knowing Usenet
naysayers of denial being in denial, whereas our Roger may seem a little
dumbfounded about the arrival of our somewhat salty and most likely icy
proto-moon of perhaps as great as 4000 km worth, that may have been
originally situated somewhat Sedna like, and simply affected by some
other impacting arrivals or greater mascon encounter as having a
sufficient influence. This external influence would have caused the
orbital diversion that brought us together, such as via the Sirius
star/solar system which I believe gets visited by our solar system
roughly every 105,000 years (more frequently in the distent past).
After all, Sedna itself gets to within 76 AU as is, and as such it would
not take all that much of an impact in order to cause that icy orb to
head directly our way, whereas if it were otherwise being dragged along
and/or intentionally deployed by an even greater mascon (such as Venus)
is only so much better yet.

Obviously something if not several extremely large items had impacted
our once upon a time icy moon, and quite possibly there's at least one
such impact that may have left it's mark in Earth as perhaps
representing the arctic ocean basin, as our arriving moon delivered a
glancing sucker punch of a blow to our extensively icy world.

All that Henry Kroll and myself can say with any reasonable certainty is
that our moon wasn't with us prior to 10,500 BC. However, I'd be very
interested to narrow that down to a specific decade or even a century,
whereas if Earth had been impacted by the arrival of such an icy moon,
chances are that most of the early human intelligent life upon Earth
went as deep as possible into hiding, as I would have, and I'd suppose
that the climate of Earth would have remained as somewhat nasty and
clouded over for a few centuries thereafter, which might further explain
as to why it took so long before that moon of ours to became noticed for
what it was.

Come to think (just a little further outside the box), our magnetosphere
might not have been nearly as extensive until after that Earth/moon
encounter. We've certainly been losing our magnetosphere potency by a
good .05%/yr, which might actually help us to establish the initial
timeline of the big event, of exactly when that moon of our impacted us.
-

Our moon is geophysically via mascon/tidal friction warming Earth rather
nicely as of the last ice age. As to what exact extent these
gravitational forces of such mascon induced tidal currents above and
below the surface are being converted into thermal energy may remain a
little fuzzy, but never the less it's an ongoing global warming factor
of such fuzzy logic that's telling us what's perfectly real and
happening to us, that's well above and beyond the ongoing impact of
modern humanity that has been clearly adding further trauma to our
environment.

Up until this last ice age, Earth's environment simply didn't have to
contend with that nearby moon of ours as of prior to 10,500 BC, just
that of our 100,000 and some odd year orbit of Sirius. If there were a
moon prior to 10,500 BC, as such it would have been included within many
of the artistic renderings of those tens of centuries of talented
artistic and otherwise serious records of those ice age and prior times
when humans had existed, and were otherwise good at depicting all that
was important to their survival. Some other research placed the
earliest depictions of a moon as late as 2000 BC, and for some odd
reason in never became a god moon.

Here's my two ballpark estimates of mascon/tidal warming that's roughly
between 0.01% and 0.1% of the 2e20 J / 9.80665 =3D 2.0395e19 kgf. It
could be a little greater, but it most certainly isn't anything much
less than the 0.01% mark.

0.1% of the associated 2e20 Joules =3D 390 w/m2 (plus whatever secondary
IR/FIR)

0.01% of the associated 2e20 Joules =3D 39 w/m2 (plus whatever secondary
IR/FIR)

Total change in greenhouse forcing from 1985 to 2004, we get 9.35 w/m2.


http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2005/05/10/global-warming-som=

Current Man-made Greenhouse Forcing to be 2.4 - 4.3 W/m2, Compared with
7.5 - 10 W/m2 Needed for Change of Seasons


http://www.globalwarming.net/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&task=3Dview&i=

Of course the really big guns of G8 remain in total denial, other than
having insisted it's all the fault of Muslims. There's lots of other
data that's nicely compiled by wikipedia.org, such as the 11 year solar
cycle that's worth +/- 0.05% or possibly at most +/- 0.1% of solar
irradiance, which pretty much eliminates that source of being the
problem. Whereas the global dimming via soot and particle factors may
be the ultimate culprit that diminishes our global albedo to a
sufficient extent that can be directly measured from space on a year by
year basis, and best yet as measured from our moon's L1 or alternately
via ACE that's halo parked in Earth's L1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

Therefore, on behalf of global warming, I'm giving humanity as little
credit as having a 10% responsibility, and that nasty moon of ours gets
the other 90% which only seems most likely, especially since the energy
cycle of having made warm waters to sub-frozen ice and then ice back
into warm water is so freaking horrific, especially if we're taking the
km3 volumes of said ice and frozen tundra into account.

At the very most I'd be giving humanity 25% responsibility for this
ongoing global warming fiasco, although either way of being 25% or as
little as 10% is still entirely worth our doing something about, such as
cutting that artificial impact in half seems perfectly doable, and as
such it's way more than beneficial in so many other positive ways, other
than moderating our fair share of this never ending cycle of global
warming via human pollution and arrogance. That is unless you're
perfectly good with your next 'Happy Meal' being a McJellyfish sandwich,
or perhaps biofuel via farmed jellyfish could actually work.
-
Brad Guth

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In order to honestly discuss the planetology of whatever's true
geological science and thereby having an appreciation as to the
physiological impact of our moon having somewhat recently added it's
arrival trauma plus a few spare teratonnes worth of it's salty ice and
subsequent mascon/tidal forces plus otherwise having been global warming
us ever since the last ice age, one obviously has to put up with the
continual mainstream gauntlet of intellectual naysayism flak, as offered
by the incest mutations that's deeply invested into this anti-think-tank
of a naysay Usenet from their MI/NSA and 'Skull and Bones' infomercial
hell. Of course anyone on the side of common reason and perfectly
deductive truth gets marked as being insane, or that of a terrorist
hiding the likes of WMD and Usama bin Laden.