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User: "Sam Wormley"
Date: 02 Feb 2005 09:50:08 PM
Object: Goals for the year of physics
Goals for the year of physics (Feb 2)
http://physicsweb.org/article/world/18/2/1
It will not have escaped the attention of readers that the International
Year of Physics has started. We can think of the year as an experiment:
is it possible to make physics more popular as measured by the number of
physics students at schools and universities? It would be good to make
physics more popular with the general public as well, but in the current
climate we need to concentrate on the number of physics students.
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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: Goals for the year of physics 02 Feb 2005 10:54:13 PM
Im thinking a more practial method.
High tec mini hydroplants.
Minral ninning ,,the gold panner with xray vision .
the fishing boat that hunts fish 3 miles down.
The new insulation factory.
Clear metels .
bricks made of sand and sound.
Instant stone harmonic welder.
0.15 the energy to make the brick and .01 the energy getting sand
instead of crushing stone.
The MONEY is BEHIND physics.
Without physics steve and bill would still be agreeing with each
other.
taking a laser and burning a micro photo on a cilicon semiconductor
is physics.
dropping 4 chanel geophones deep in the sea is physics.
want to raze the bar , show em what its done thats cool.

I got the balloon out ..remote up and down and flys 2000 feet. only a
300 pound test line holds 2 people from going away.
40 feet ww2 lst issue.
Thats one of the coolest toys i got.
the wench is on the ship and modified.
it has a compressor to put the helium back.
kids go up and down all day.
the entire island has been up and down and we got here 2 days ago.
Solomon
up da slot.

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User: "Gregory L. Hansen"

Title: Re: Goals for the year of physics 03 Feb 2005 08:42:58 AM
In article <PbhMd.45743$eT5.6318@attbi_s51>,
Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote:

Goals for the year of physics (Feb 2)
http://physicsweb.org/article/world/18/2/1
It will not have escaped the attention of readers that the International
Year of Physics has started. We can think of the year as an experiment:
is it possible to make physics more popular as measured by the number of
physics students at schools and universities? It would be good to make
physics more popular with the general public as well, but in the current
climate we need to concentrate on the number of physics students.

When these people discuss how to increase the number of physics students,
do they ever examine whether that's good for the students?
http://bls.gov/oco/ocos052.htm
Could be market forces are just doing what market forces are supposed to
do.
--
"Then they placed the ark of the Lord on the cart; along with the box
containing the golden mice and the images of the hemorrhoids."
-- 1 Samuel 6:11
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User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: Goals for the year of physics 03 Feb 2005 10:10:14 AM
Sam Wormley wrote:


Goals for the year of physics (Feb 2)
http://physicsweb.org/article/world/18/2/1
It will not have escaped the attention of readers that the International
Year of Physics has started. We can think of the year as an experiment:
is it possible to make physics more popular as measured by the number of
physics students at schools and universities? It would be good to make
physics more popular with the general public as well, but in the current
climate we need to concentrate on the number of physics students.

Any endeavor that requires objective intelligence and personal
endeavor will be shunned by America and Europe. The Chinese hardly
need further spur to take over the First World. The USSR made
creating practitioners of science and engineering a bold national
priority. Two empirical results:
1) Jews everywhere.
2) Everybody technical got royally screwed while aparachicks
soared.
USSR's past is America's present. There is every reason to expect
Russian and American futures are convergent.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
.
User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: Goals for the year of physics 04 Feb 2005 11:20:01 PM
Uncle Al wrote:

Sam Wormley wrote:


Goals for the year of physics (Feb 2)
http://physicsweb.org/article/world/18/2/1
It will not have escaped the attention of readers that the

International

Year of Physics has started. We can think of the year as an

experiment:

is it possible to make physics more popular as measured by the

number of

physics students at schools and universities? It would be good

to make

physics more popular with the general public as well, but in

the current

climate we need to concentrate on the number of physics

students.


Any endeavor that requires objective intelligence and personal
endeavor will be shunned by America and Europe. The Chinese hardly
need further spur to take over the First World. The USSR made
creating practitioners of science and engineering a bold national
priority. Two empirical results:

1) Jews everywhere.
2) Everybody technical got royally screwed while aparachicks
soared.

USSR's past is America's present. There is every reason to expect
Russian and American futures are convergent.

"The USSR made creating practitioners of science and engineering a bold
national priority."
So we are screwed in either case?


--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf

.

User: "robert j. kolker"

Title: Re: Goals for the year of physics 03 Feb 2005 10:37:45 AM
Uncle Al wrote:

USSR's past is America's present. There is every reason to expect
Russian and American futures are convergent.

Not so if we keep a reasonably open immigration policy. Immigration is
what has kept the U.S. from going to squash rot so far. As long as we
import potent minds from Asia we shall do quite well.
Bob Kolker
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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: Goals for the year of physics 04 Feb 2005 07:26:31 PM
Trading is what keeps us going.
Some rich basterds done want imports and clame it takes jobs wile they
jack the price up till 1/2 the population cant buy it.
if there was no terrif world wide , your money would triple because
evrything cost 1/3.
2 jobs created for evry job lost by trading.
But protect the job you pay the rich fucker wile he jacks the price up
fills the wharehouse and lays your ***** off.
The oldest city is in south amarica.
7000 years old , lasted 6000 years on free trade.
war dont biuld cities ,,free trade biulds cities.
protectionisem protects monopolies.
Monopolies lead to comunist .
Free trade leads to freedom.
USA was built on free trade and tossed the tea in the sea for free
trade.
Free trade built the rail road and the steel mill.
Monoplies shut them down.
Monopolies and protectonsem starts depresions.
Due to monopolies jacking prices to get rich
the population cant keep buying it.
if not for nafta usa would be in a depresion from 80 till now.

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User: "Andy Resnick"

Title: Re: Goals for the year of physics 03 Feb 2005 07:49:00 AM
Sam Wormley wrote:

Goals for the year of physics (Feb 2)
http://physicsweb.org/article/world/18/2/1
It will not have escaped the attention of readers that the
International
Year of Physics has started. We can think of the year as an
experiment:
is it possible to make physics more popular as measured by the
number of
physics students at schools and universities? It would be good to make
physics more popular with the general public as well, but in the
current
climate we need to concentrate on the number of physics students.

Here's an anectode I would like to share. Last year, at one of the
regional science fairs that is a feeder to the Intel science fair, I was
asked to judge an experiment by three 9th graders on the sensitivty of
photographic film to various wavelengths of light. They exposed
different cannisters of Kodak 35mm film to x-rays, ultraviolet rays,
visible, infrared, and radio. I asked them where they did the
exposures: X-rays = dentist office, UV = tanning bed, infrared = heat
lamp. Then they got to radio. I asked them "Where did you find a radio
source?" Their answer: they put the film next to a radio. "Why did you
do that?" Their answer was quite illuminating (no pun intended):
"Our science teacher told us radio waves are concentrated around radios".
Better science teachers, indeed. I really don't blame the students for
being ignorant- it's not their fault. The teacher, on the other hand,
needs a beating. Just imagine what else he is spewing. Add to this the
current issues of teaching evolution is schools, and it's not just
physics education that needs help, it's science education in general.
As a footnote, the film was shown to be most developed upon exposure to
visible light. I didn't bother to ask them why they could have
predicted that.
--
Andrew Resnick, Ph.D.
Department of Physiology and Biophysics
CWRU School of Medicine
tanspose 'op' for mail
.
User: "PD"

Title: Re: Goals for the year of physics 03 Feb 2005 08:22:13 AM
Andy Resnick wrote:

Sam Wormley wrote:

Goals for the year of physics (Feb 2)
http://physicsweb.org/article/world/18/2/1
It will not have escaped the attention of readers that the
International
Year of Physics has started. We can think of the year as an
experiment:
is it possible to make physics more popular as measured by the
number of
physics students at schools and universities? It would be good

to make

physics more popular with the general public as well, but in the
current
climate we need to concentrate on the number of physics

students.


Here's an anectode I would like to share. Last year, at one of the
regional science fairs that is a feeder to the Intel science fair, I

was

asked to judge an experiment by three 9th graders on the sensitivty

of

photographic film to various wavelengths of light. They exposed
different cannisters of Kodak 35mm film to x-rays, ultraviolet rays,
visible, infrared, and radio. I asked them where they did the
exposures: X-rays = dentist office, UV = tanning bed, infrared = heat
lamp. Then they got to radio. I asked them "Where did you find a

radio

source?" Their answer: they put the film next to a radio. "Why did

you

do that?" Their answer was quite illuminating (no pun intended):

"Our science teacher told us radio waves are concentrated around

radios".


Better science teachers, indeed. I really don't blame the students

for

being ignorant- it's not their fault. The teacher, on the other

hand,

needs a beating. Just imagine what else he is spewing. Add to this

the

current issues of teaching evolution is schools, and it's not just
physics education that needs help, it's science education in general.

As a footnote, the film was shown to be most developed upon exposure

to

visible light. I didn't bother to ask them why they could have
predicted that.

--
Andrew Resnick, Ph.D.
Department of Physiology and Biophysics
CWRU School of Medicine
tanspose 'op' for mail

Agreed. The absolute best thing we can do for physics is to get higher
ed physics departments to be less parochial in their curriculum and to
aim better at two markets they now dramatically underserve:
- Engineers
- Secondary education teachers
The world is rife with PhD physicists who got PhDs because there was no
way to get off the railroad tracks, and who are now doing something
completely different in their careers.
PD
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