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User: "George Hammond"
Date: 08 Oct 2005 04:23:18 AM
Object: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ?
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 10:42:55 +0100, bv_schornak <nowhere@schornak.de> wrote:

Get informed, George.

Greetings from Augsburg

Bernhard Schornak

[gh]
Bahaaa hah hah haha....
Hey Bernie.... here's a wager for you:
I'm willing to bet that a video movie can be made that is
clearly visible and watchable to an ADULT..... but is
INVISIBLE to a 5 year old child!
In other words, when an adult looks at the t.v. he will
see a regular video movie.
But when a 5 year old looks at the same t.v. screen at
the same time, he will see a BLANK SCREEN with
absolutely NOTHING on it.
And this "invisible movie" will be based entirely on the
DIFFERENCE of the "PFF" (Movie Picture Fusion Frequency)
between and adult and a 5 year old child.
(Note the PFF of an adult is 15 frames/sec, and the PFF
of a 5 year old is 7 frames/sec.)
You could actually make porno movies that could be seen
by adults, but that would be INVISIBLE to children.
This would be a CLEAR DEMONSTRATION of the
"invisible world" of Religion. And an actual physical
demonstration of the existence of GOD!
Wanna bet it can be done?
A real first in the field of video entertainment!
(A real demonstration of the existence
of God too!)
Point is... I don't have an funds to make a scientific proof
of God video.
BUT, I'm willing to bet some corporate video lab could be
interested on the grounds that they would get the patent
for "child proof" X rated entertainment, and might underwrite
the research. Cripes, it wouldn't cost them but a couple
of grand to find out how well it works.... the gov't might
even fund it.
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User: "U.O"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 29 Oct 2005 10:22:04 AM
"George Hammond" <nowhere1@nospam.org> skrev i meddelandet
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On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 10:42:55 +0100, bv_schornak <nowhere@schornak.de>

wrote:




Get informed, George.



Greetings from Augsburg

Bernhard Schornak



[gh]
Bahaaa hah hah haha....

Hey Bernie.... here's a wager for you:

I'm willing to bet that a video movie can be made that is
clearly visible and watchable to an ADULT..... but is
INVISIBLE to a 5 year old child!

In other words, when an adult looks at the t.v. he will
see a regular video movie.
But when a 5 year old looks at the same t.v. screen at
the same time, he will see a BLANK SCREEN with
absolutely NOTHING on it.

And this "invisible movie" will be based entirely on the
DIFFERENCE of the "PFF" (Movie Picture Fusion Frequency)
between and adult and a 5 year old child.
(Note the PFF of an adult is 15 frames/sec, and the PFF
of a 5 year old is 7 frames/sec.)

You could actually make porno movies that could be seen
by adults, but that would be INVISIBLE to children.

This would be a CLEAR DEMONSTRATION of the
"invisible world" of Religion. And an actual physical
demonstration of the existence of GOD!

Wanna bet it can be done?

A real first in the field of video entertainment!
(A real demonstration of the existence
of God too!)

Point is... I don't have an funds to make a scientific proof
of God video.

BUT, I'm willing to bet some corporate video lab could be
interested on the grounds that they would get the patent
for "child proof" X rated entertainment, and might underwrite
the research. Cripes, it wouldn't cost them but a couple
of grand to find out how well it works.... the gov't might
even fund it.
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I took a random video clip, adjusted the FPS, blanked out every 3rd, 4th,
5th and 6th frames with light gray, and exported it as an AVI (sorry about
the trial nag notice).
http://www.geocities.com/asdfasdf_asdfasdfasdf_asdfasdfas
As expected, it looks horrible. Unfortunately I don't know any 5 year-olds
to test it on, but my 12 year old niece had no problems explaining what she
saw.
.
User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 08 Nov 2005 12:09:59 AM
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"George Hammond" <nowhere1@nospam.org> skrev i meddelandet
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[UO]
I took a random video clip, adjusted the FPS, blanked out every 3rd, 4th,
5th and 6th frames with light gray, and exported it as an AVI (sorry about
the trial nag notice).

http://www.geocities.com/asdfasdf_asdfasdfasdf_asdfasdfas

As expected, it looks horrible. Unfortunately I don't know any 5 year-olds
to test it on, but my 12 year old niece had no problems explaining what
she
saw.

[Hammond]
Thanks for making these demos, they are very interesting.
Can you tell me what the frame rate is?
I understand avi displays at about 12 frames/sec
on a web browser?
Windows media player opens them up ok.
From this it appears that my invisible movie theory
is back to the drawing board. Thanks again for
the effort.
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User: "U.O"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 08 Nov 2005 02:00:50 AM
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[UO]
I took a random video clip, adjusted the FPS, blanked out every 3rd,

4th,

5th and 6th frames with light gray, and exported it as an AVI (sorry

about

the trial nag notice).

http://www.geocities.com/asdfasdf_asdfasdfasdf_asdfasdfas

As expected, it looks horrible. Unfortunately I don't know any 5

year-olds

to test it on, but my 12 year old niece had no problems explaining what
she
saw.


[Hammond]
Thanks for making these demos, they are very interesting.
Can you tell me what the frame rate is?
I understand avi displays at about 12 frames/sec
on a web browser?
Windows media player opens them up ok.

From this it appears that my invisible movie theory
is back to the drawing board. Thanks again for
the effort.

They're 30 FPS.
To be honest I didn't think it would work, but it never hurts to try:-)

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User: ""

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 08 Nov 2005 12:23:33 PM

From this it appears that my invisible movie theory
is back to the drawing board. Thanks again for
the effort.

Unfortunately you will still rant that you have found 'proof' even
though all the experiments fail.
You will simply guess another set of numbers that will never work and
claim that this 'proves' something or other, all it needs is someone
else to do the work.
Instead of pissing around with film and TV which you haven't the skills
nor the tools to do just make a stroboscope from cardboard, or a
zeotope, (that is if they let you use scissors). Then you can vary the
rate (rotation rate and number of slots) and the interval (width of
slot) until you get one that works. Please don't come back until you
have a result that does actually do what you claim.
.


User: ""

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 29 Oct 2005 11:24:49 AM

And this "invisible movie" will be based entirely on the
DIFFERENCE of the "PFF" (Movie Picture Fusion Frequency) between and adult and a 5 year old child.
(Note the PFF of an adult is 15 frames/sec, and the PFF > of a 5 year old is 7 frames/sec.)

*************
So? All that would mean is that the child would integrate (30/7) = 4.3
frames whereas the adult would integrate (30/15) frames (assuming your
figures are true). But both would see a perfectly visible signal.
.


User: "bv_schornak"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 08 Oct 2005 05:49:34 AM
George Hammond wrote:

You could actually make porno movies that could be seen
by adults, but that would be INVISIBLE to children.

Yep. Send a message to Net-Nanny - they wait for good ideas
to make porn "invisible" to kids (they still would hear the
movies, but there might be a solution for that)... :)
BTW - the Anti-SPoG site is ICRA certified:
<http://schornak.de/aspog/index.htm>
Greetings from Augsburg
Bernhard Schornak
.
User: ""

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 08 Oct 2005 05:32:28 AM
Boy, everything in the Universe convinces you of God, duddent it?
That's because the Universe is God.
Science = religion
Cybernetics rules.
Pantheism.
Prove me wrong.
.
User: "brian a m stuckless"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 09 Oct 2005 03:35:29 AM
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Once upon a time ( ..before time, actually), BEFORE CREATiON,
GOD lived in VACUUM; He *HAD* to CREATE a Life for Himself.!!
$ NO iNFiNiTY at all.!!
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donstockbauer@hotmail.com wrote:

Boy, everything in the Universe convinces you of God, duddent it?

That's because the Universe is God.

Science = religion

Cybernetics rules.

Pantheism.

Prove me wrong.

.

User: "bv_schornak"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 08 Oct 2005 08:20:07 AM
wrote:

Boy, everything in the Universe convinces you of God, duddent it?

That's because the Universe is God.

Science = religion

Cybernetics rules.

Pantheism.

Prove me wrong.

Why should I do that? If this is your belief, then it is
your belief.
Okay, one thing - science != religion... ;)
Greetings from Augsburg
Bernhard Schornak
.


User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 08 Oct 2005 06:42:26 AM
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 11:49:34 +0100, bv_schornak <nowhere@schornak.de>
wrote:

George Hammond wrote:

You could actually make porno movies that could be seen
by adults, but that would be INVISIBLE to children.


Yep. Send a message to Net-Nanny - they wait for good ideas
to make porn "invisible" to kids (they still would hear the
movies, but there might be a solution for that)... :)

BTW - the Anti-SPoG site is ICRA certified:

<http://schornak.de/aspog/index.htm>


Greetings from Augsburg

Bernhard Schornak

[Hammond]
Bernhard Schornak has erected a website personally attacking
GEORGE HAMMOND and his peer published SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD
(SPOG).
Bernhard Schornak is an uneducated German truckdriver from Danzig
who never attended college. He has no degrees in Science and can't
even READ physics much less understand it... yet he post large numbers
of taunting and argumentative posts to the Usenet Physics newsgroups.
Schornak's aim is to stir up Anti-SPOG sentiment in Germany in
order to keep ususpecting Germans from knowing the scientific truth.
Schornak may harbor neo-Nazi sympathies ... and clearly harbors anti
religious sentiments. He certainly is a well known
anti-intellectual harasser.
He's a political troublemaker, and a well known anti-intelloectual
Usenet stalker and heckler..
There isn't one whit of competent science on his Anti-Spog website
and he is utterly incompetent and a braggert to boot claiming to have
an IQ of 200. Moreover he has erected a website personally attacking
me, and therefore I feel justified in exposing this aggravated lout.
On the other hand HAMMOND has published the scientific proof of God
(SPOG) in the peer reviewed scientific literature.
Peer reviewed publications:
Hammond G.E (1994) The Cartesian Theory, in
New Ideas In Psychology, Vol 12(2) 153-167
Pergamon Press. Online copy at:
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/cart.html
Hammond G.E.(2003) A Semiclassical Theory of God
Noetic Journal, Vol 4(3) July 2003, pp 231-244(Noetic Press)
Online copy at:
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/Hammond5s1.html
and is a graduate physicist:
CURRICULUM VITAE
GEORGE HAMMOND
B.S. Physics 1964, Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Worcester MA, USA (Deans List)
M.S. Physics 1967, Northeastern University,
Boston MA, USA
Ph.D. Candidate and Teaching Fellow in Physics, 1967-68
Northeastern Univ. Boston MA
Note: Studied Relativity under Prof. Richard Arnowitt
at N.U. who is presently Distinguished Professor
of Physics at TAMU
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User: "bv_schornak"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 08 Oct 2005 08:31:13 AM
George Hammond wrote:

he is utterly incompetent and a braggert to boot claiming to have
an IQ of 200.

I never claimed to haven an IQ above 200 - that value is a little
bit above the real thing because I used *your* flawed formula for
the calculation... :) (The formula can be found in my peer review
of your "PFF" story: <http://tpoh.de/aspog/peer-4pg/0100.htm>.)
Greetings from Augsburg
Bernhard Schornak
.

User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 08 Oct 2005 07:02:44 AM
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 10:42:55 +0100, bv_schornak <nowhere@schornak.de>
wrote:

Get informed, George.

Greetings from Augsburg

Bernhard Schornak

[gh]
Bahaaa hah hah haha....
Hey Bernie.... here's a wager for you:
I'm willing to bet that a video movie can be made that is
clearly visible and watchable to an ADULT..... but is
INVISIBLE to a 5 year old child!
In other words, when an adult looks at the t.v. he will
see a regular video movie.
But when a 5 year old looks at the same t.v. screen at
the same time, he will see a BLANK SCREEN with
absolutely NOTHING on it.
And this "invisible movie" will be based entirely on the
DIFFERENCE of the "PFF" (Movie Picture Fusion Frequency)
between and adult and a 5 year old child.
(Note the PFF of an adult is 15 frames/sec, and the PFF
of a 5 year old is 7 frames/sec.)
You could actually make porno movies that could be seen
by adults, but that would be INVISIBLE to children.
This would be a CLEAR DEMONSTRATION of the
"invisible world" of Religion. And an actual physical
demonstration of the existence of GOD!
Wanna bet it can be done?
A real first in the field of video entertainment!
(A real demonstration of the existence
of God too!)
Point is... I don't have an funds to make a scientific proof
of God video.
BUT, I'm willing to bet some corporate video lab could be
interested on the grounds that they would get the patent
for "child proof" X rated entertainment, and might underwrite
the research. Cripes, it wouldn't cost them but a couple
of grand to find out how well it works.... the gov't might
even fund it.
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User: "bv_schornak"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 08 Oct 2005 08:33:52 AM
George Hammond wrote:

You could actually make porno movies that could be seen
by adults, but that would be INVISIBLE to children.

Yep. Send a message to Net-Nanny - they wait for good ideas
to make porn "invisible" to kids (they still would hear the
movies, but there might be a solution for that)...
BTW - the Anti-SPoG site is ICRA certified:
<http://schornak.de/aspog/index.htm>
Greetings from Augsburg
Bernhard Schornak
.



User: "Bryan Olson"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 08 Oct 2005 11:29:28 AM
bv_schornak wrote:

BTW - the Anti-SPoG site is ICRA certified:

<http://schornak.de/aspog/index.htm>

I don't see the point. Hammond is completely harmless; his "proof"
isn't fooling anyone and his claims don't make enough sense to require
refutation.
--
--Bryan
.
User: "Androcles Androcles@ MyPlace.org"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 08 Oct 2005 01:54:12 PM
"Bryan Olson" <fakeaddress@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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| bv_schornak wrote:
| > BTW - the Anti-SPoG site is ICRA certified:
| >
| > <http://schornak.de/aspog/index.htm>
|
| I don't see the point. Hammond is completely harmless; his "proof"
| isn't fooling anyone and his claims don't make enough sense to require
| refutation.
|
|
| --
| --Bryan
Just tell crank.net and forget it.
http://www.crank.net/
a.. "Know of a Web page that should be listed on Crank Dot Net? Submit
it to us."
a..
a.. Androcles
.
User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 08 Oct 2005 03:38:16 PM
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 18:54:12 GMT, "Androcles" <Androcles@ MyPlace.org>
wrote:


"Bryan Olson" <fakeaddress@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:ItS1f.5463$Zs3.5288@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
| bv_schornak wrote:
| > BTW - the Anti-SPoG site is ICRA certified:
| >
| > <http://schornak.de/aspog/index.htm>
|
| I don't see the point. Hammond is completely harmless; his "proof"
| isn't fooling anyone and his claims don't make enough sense to require
| refutation.
|
|
| --
| --Bryan

Just tell crank.net and forget it.

[Hammond]
Hey do anything you have to, as long as you get the phuck out off this
thread.

a.. Androcles

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User: "bv_schornak"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 08 Oct 2005 01:44:18 PM
Bryan Olson wrote:

bv_schornak wrote:

BTW - the Anti-SPoG site is ICRA certified:

<http://schornak.de/aspog/index.htm>


I don't see the point. Hammond is completely harmless; his "proof"
isn't fooling anyone and his claims don't make enough sense to require
refutation.

You just tolds this to be added to [Hammond]'s list'o'hate,
didn't ya? :)
Greetings from Augsburg
Bernhard Schornak
P.S.: Don't take SPoG vs. Anti-SPoG too serious - it's just
for fun, nothing else.
.

User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv CAN ONE MAKE AN INVISIBLE MOVIE ? 08 Oct 2005 01:03:21 PM
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:29:28 GMT, Bryan Olson
<fakeaddress@nowhere.org> wrote:

bv_schornak wrote:

BTW - the Anti-SPoG site is ICRA certified:

<http://schornak.de/aspog/index.htm>


I don't see the point. Hammond is completely harmless;

[Hammond]
3 million visitors to my website, and tens of thousands of
posters on Usenet don't seem to think so.

his "proof" isn't fooling anyone

[Hammond]
Rigorous peer published Scientific proof never fools anyone,
it only makes them look like fools.... including you.

and his claims don't make enough sense to require
refutation.

[Hammond]
Prof Chris Isham and Prof. William Dembski (both internanationally
famous authors), tried without sucess to refute it..... they wound up
looking like fools:
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/Isdemunwin.html
You couldn't refute the discovery with a factual statement, you're
just a harmless Usenet kook
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