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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "George Hammond"
Date: 17 Oct 2005 08:50:21 PM
Object: God=G_uv GOD IS SUBLIMINALLY INVISIBLE
God=G_uv GOD IS SUBLIMINALLY INVISIBLE
1. People wonder what Heaven is.
2. People wonder where Heaven is.
3. People wonder what Heaven looks like.
4. People wonder why Heaven is invisible.
5. People wonder how to get there.
6. People wonder if Science will ever explain it.
Well guess what,
The SCIENTIFIC ANSWER to these questions
HAS been found.... and proven..... and published
in the peer reviewed scientific literature.
-------------------------------------------
There IS a Heaven and there IS A God.
-------------------------------------------
Nowadays everybody knows what a "subliminal picture" is.
Many ordinary movies contain "single frame" pictures that
cannot be noticed because they are too short to be seen.
Arguments have been going on for years whether these
"invisble" pictures can influence people subconsciously.
(for instance to sell Coka Cola, or cars, or alcohol or drugs).
These pictures are called "subliminal" because they
are INVISBLE. Ordinary pictures are called "supraliminal"
meaning they are VISIBLE.
NOW HERE IS THE AMAZING NEWS:
The amazing fact is, that 20% of what we call ordinary
"visible reality" is actually subliminally invisible to us....
.....and guess what....
........that is what "HEAVEN" actually is.... the subliminally
invisble part of ordinary reality that no one can see!
Now, people ask me "why would 20% of reality be subliminally
invisble?" .... after all, reality is not a movie?
No.... reality is not a movie.... but it is a "time varying
image" in front of our eyes..... therefore..... some things
move so fast they are "subliminally invisble".... such as
the wings of a Hummingbird. They are simply too fast
for us to see.... hence they are INVISBLE.
BUT... the skeptic counters; we are not SUPPOSED to be
able to see Hummingbird wings.... or speeding bullets... or an
airplane propellor spinning at 5,000 r.p.m. So what?
Well, that is not what I'm talking about.... I'm talking about
motions that you SHOULD be seeing but you CAN'T see because
there is a universal biological problem called the "human growth
deficit" that afflicts all of mankind... and because of this
condition, NONE OF US can see the normal reality we SHOULD
be seeing. And believe it or not... this universal biological
condition causes the phenomenon we call "GOD".
This "growth deficit" is called the SECULAR TREND in human
growth and it was discovered over 100 years ago. Fact is,
the human race has never been fully grown, and is only approaching
that condition over very long historical times. This for instance is
why a modern soldier can't fit into a medieval suit of armor, he is so
much larger than his ancestors. See for instance:
http://economics.sbs.ohio-state.edu/rsteckel/Articles/time.htm
Ok... it is also known that that CHILDREN have much longer
subliminal duration times than ADULTS. In other words, a picture
flashed for 25 milliseconds is subliminally invisible to an adult, but
a picture flashed for 50 milliseconds (twice as long) is invisble to a
child. The reason for this is that the childs brain is only half
grown, say, and therefore his "mental speed" is only half as great,
thus doubling his "subliminal threshold" timewise.
Ok... from that example of the effect of growth on the "subliminal
threshold", we can immediately conclude that if the average person is
only 80% fully grown (which the Secular Trend tells us), then
likewise..... 20% of the world that we SHOULD see, is gong to be
invisble to all of us. And guess what?.... that is ACTUALLY THE
CASE... and this phenomenon is called "GOD".... and the invisble part
of the world that we can't see because of the Secular Trend growth
deficit... is called "HEAVEN".
Basically, what all of this is telling us is that if we were 100%
grown, we would be "God in the flesh" and we would be seeing (i.e. be
living in) "Paradise". Well, this is all true... but so far, because
of the human condition, there NEVER HAS BEEN a fully grown person in
the history of the world... which is why people say "God is invisible"
and lives in Heaven.
OK.... interestingly, I have been pursuing the notion that if all
this is true (which the data assures us it is), then it should be
possible to actually make a movie wihich is VISIBLE TO ADULTS, but
which is INVISIBLE TO KIDS. Never in the history of the world has
such a thing been done or even suggested! But I say it is possible,
and obviously it would be a CLEAR DEMONSTRATION on the "invisible
world" of Religion.. and of the existence of Heaven itself!
Currently I am working on constructing this movie (video) and will
keep you posted.
Meanwhile, if you have more questions about all this, I suggest you
read my website located at:

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User: "Steve Ralph"

Title: Re: God=G_uv GOD IS SUBLIMINALLY INVISIBLE 18 Oct 2005 12:39:34 PM
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God=G_uv GOD IS SUBLIMINALLY INVISIBLE



1. People wonder what Heaven is.

No I don't.

2. People wonder where Heaven is.

No I don't.

3. People wonder what Heaven looks like.

No I don't.

4. People wonder why Heaven is invisible.

No I don't.

5. People wonder how to get there.

No I don't.

6. People wonder if Science will ever explain it.

No I don't.
Oh dear, I am not a 'people'
sr



Well guess what,
The SCIENTIFIC ANSWER to these questions
HAS been found.... and proven..... and published
in the peer reviewed scientific literature.

-------------------------------------------
There IS a Heaven and there IS A God.
-------------------------------------------

Nowadays everybody knows what a "subliminal picture" is.
Many ordinary movies contain "single frame" pictures that
cannot be noticed because they are too short to be seen.
Arguments have been going on for years whether these
"invisble" pictures can influence people subconsciously.
(for instance to sell Coka Cola, or cars, or alcohol or drugs).

These pictures are called "subliminal" because they
are INVISBLE. Ordinary pictures are called "supraliminal"
meaning they are VISIBLE.

NOW HERE IS THE AMAZING NEWS:

The amazing fact is, that 20% of what we call ordinary
"visible reality" is actually subliminally invisible to us....
....and guess what....

.......that is what "HEAVEN" actually is.... the subliminally
invisble part of ordinary reality that no one can see!


Now, people ask me "why would 20% of reality be subliminally
invisble?" .... after all, reality is not a movie?

No.... reality is not a movie.... but it is a "time varying
image" in front of our eyes..... therefore..... some things
move so fast they are "subliminally invisble".... such as
the wings of a Hummingbird. They are simply too fast
for us to see.... hence they are INVISBLE.

BUT... the skeptic counters; we are not SUPPOSED to be
able to see Hummingbird wings.... or speeding bullets... or an
airplane propellor spinning at 5,000 r.p.m. So what?

Well, that is not what I'm talking about.... I'm talking about
motions that you SHOULD be seeing but you CAN'T see because
there is a universal biological problem called the "human growth
deficit" that afflicts all of mankind... and because of this
condition, NONE OF US can see the normal reality we SHOULD
be seeing. And believe it or not... this universal biological
condition causes the phenomenon we call "GOD".
This "growth deficit" is called the SECULAR TREND in human
growth and it was discovered over 100 years ago. Fact is,
the human race has never been fully grown, and is only approaching
that condition over very long historical times. This for instance is
why a modern soldier can't fit into a medieval suit of armor, he is so
much larger than his ancestors. See for instance:
http://economics.sbs.ohio-state.edu/rsteckel/Articles/time.htm
Ok... it is also known that that CHILDREN have much longer
subliminal duration times than ADULTS. In other words, a picture
flashed for 25 milliseconds is subliminally invisible to an adult, but
a picture flashed for 50 milliseconds (twice as long) is invisble to a
child. The reason for this is that the childs brain is only half
grown, say, and therefore his "mental speed" is only half as great,
thus doubling his "subliminal threshold" timewise.
Ok... from that example of the effect of growth on the "subliminal
threshold", we can immediately conclude that if the average person is
only 80% fully grown (which the Secular Trend tells us), then
likewise..... 20% of the world that we SHOULD see, is gong to be
invisble to all of us. And guess what?.... that is ACTUALLY THE
CASE... and this phenomenon is called "GOD".... and the invisble part
of the world that we can't see because of the Secular Trend growth
deficit... is called "HEAVEN".
Basically, what all of this is telling us is that if we were 100%
grown, we would be "God in the flesh" and we would be seeing (i.e. be
living in) "Paradise". Well, this is all true... but so far, because
of the human condition, there NEVER HAS BEEN a fully grown person in
the history of the world... which is why people say "God is invisible"
and lives in Heaven.


OK.... interestingly, I have been pursuing the notion that if all
this is true (which the data assures us it is), then it should be
possible to actually make a movie wihich is VISIBLE TO ADULTS, but
which is INVISIBLE TO KIDS. Never in the history of the world has
such a thing been done or even suggested! But I say it is possible,
and obviously it would be a CLEAR DEMONSTRATION on the "invisible
world" of Religion.. and of the existence of Heaven itself!

Currently I am working on constructing this movie (video) and will
keep you posted.

Meanwhile, if you have more questions about all this, I suggest you
read my website located at:

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User: "Phorthythia of illiteracy"

Title: Re: God=G_uv GOD IS SUBLIMINALLY INVISIBLE 23 Oct 2005 05:28:19 AM
An 80% of maximum sized brain does not neccesarily mean that we cannot
see 20% of the world. The part of the brain that is the optic processor
might be fully grown at the cost of, say, 40% of the thermoneural lobe.
the 20% and the 80% are purely coincidental- the actual figures of 100%
would be different
.
User: "Gary Eickmeier"

Title: Re: God=G_uv GOD IS SUBLIMINALLY INVISIBLE 23 Oct 2005 09:22:54 AM
Phorthythia of illiteracy wrote:

An 80% of maximum sized brain does not neccesarily mean that we cannot
see 20% of the world. The part of the brain that is the optic processor
might be fully grown at the cost of, say, 40% of the thermoneural lobe.
the 20% and the 80% are purely coincidental- the actual figures of 100%
would be different

Don't let it worry you.
Gary Eickmeier
.


User: "jambaugh"

Title: God and Science Don't mix. 18 Oct 2005 09:37:54 PM
George Hammond wrote:

[snip]
Well guess what,
The SCIENTIFIC ANSWER to these questions
HAS been found.... and proven..... and published
in the peer reviewed scientific literature.

"The noetic journal seeks to fill this gap by boldly addressing a
complete epistemology that is not just confined to current myopic
limits of scientific phenomenology."
-From statement of purpose of that peer reviewed "scientific"
journal.
In short the very journal in which your article is published admits
that they are not a scientific publication by its standard definition.
They understand that science limits its epistimology in just such a way
as to exclude metaphysical questions of God and Soul and Mind as a
spiritual entity.
Note BTW George, the editor also uses the word "epistemology".
What does that make him?
Regards,
James Baugh
.
User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 19 Oct 2005 04:32:51 AM
On 18 Oct 2005 19:37:54 -0700, "jambaugh" <
> wrote:
<snip>

Regards,
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User: "bv_schornak"

Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 19 Oct 2005 06:18:07 AM
George Hammond wrote:
<...list of people who've beaten [Hammond]...>
81 and growing... :)
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User: "Cardinal Chunder"

Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 19 Oct 2005 05:51:03 PM
bv_schornak wrote:

George Hammond wrote:

<...list of people who've beaten [Hammond]...>

81 and growing... :)

Georgy boy's reaction to any criticism is to filter it out. Seeing as
few if anyone thinks he is even the slightest bit sane, it would be
considerably less effort on his part if he maintained a whitelist.
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User: "bv_schornak"

Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 20 Oct 2005 06:22:32 AM
Cardinal Chunder wrote:

bv_schornak wrote:

81 and growing... :)



Georgy boy's reaction to any criticism is to filter it out. Seeing as
few if anyone thinks he is even the slightest bit sane, it would be
considerably less effort on his part if he maintained a whitelist.

For sure, but: George needs public relations - and long lists
are a better advertisement for SPoG than a white list with no
names on it...
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User: "Bob Cain"

Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 20 Oct 2005 12:45:12 AM
George Hammond wrote:

[Hammond]
KILLFILE NOTICE:

I MADE IT!
Bob
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Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 20 Oct 2005 10:43:13 AM
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George Hammond wrote:

[Hammond]
KILLFILE NOTICE:


I MADE IT!

You and the rest of USENET. The current status symbol is to be the first to
be double listed.
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User: "Peter Bowditch"

Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 22 Oct 2005 10:15:01 PM
Bob Cain <arcane@arcanemethods.com> wrote:



George Hammond wrote:

[Hammond]
KILLFILE NOTICE:


I MADE IT!


Bob

So did I! Congratulations, Bob.
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User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 23 Oct 2005 05:07:46 PM
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 03:15:01 GMT, Peter Bowditch
<myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote:

Bob Cain <arcane@arcanemethods.com> wrote:



George Hammond wrote:

[Hammond]
KILLFILE NOTICE:


I MADE IT!


Bob


So did I! Congratulations, Bob.

He put me on there too.
I wear it as a feeble kind of 'honour badge'.
By the way Peter, I liked your article in Australasian Science.
The final paragraph/aphorism is a keeper!
Almost good enough for a sig, if that were my style.
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Adelaide,
South Australia
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User: "TMG"

Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 19 Oct 2005 05:48:05 PM
George Hammond wrote:
Nothing of note.
George, you've had several flaws very clearly and directly detailed for
you. We seen a certain pattern - you get backed into a corner from which
you can't extract yourself, and the "KILLFILE NOTICE" and a newly minted
kook idea springs up.
Why not address the flaws as pointed out, rather than moving on to
entirely new ones?
.
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Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 19 Oct 2005 05:57:36 PM
"TMG" <TMG@Nowhere.org> wrote in message
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George Hammond wrote:

Nothing of note.

George, you've had several flaws very clearly and directly detailed for
you. We seen a certain pattern - you get backed into a corner from which
you can't extract yourself, and the "KILLFILE NOTICE" and a newly minted
kook idea springs up.

Why not address the flaws as pointed out, rather than moving on to
entirely new ones?

Then that wouldn't be our George. He may be a kook but he's OUR kook.
.
User: "bv_schornak"

Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 20 Oct 2005 06:24:40 AM
Don Freeman wrote:

Then that wouldn't be our George. He may be a kook but he's OUR kook.

Exactly! That's why we love George, isn't it?
Greetings from Augsburg
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User: ""

Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 20 Oct 2005 05:31:02 AM
"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler."
Why? The simpler, the more people can understand it.
A. Einstein
Which one?
.
User: "bv_schornak"

Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 20 Oct 2005 10:09:40 AM
wrote:

"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler."


Why? The simpler, the more people can understand it.

A. Einstein

Which one?

Let me guess - those with a nine letter name starting with
"[" and ending with "]"?
(Did I win something except experience?)
Greetings from Augsburg
Bernhard Schornak
.





User: "Kadaitcha Man"

Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 19 Oct 2005 04:55:41 AM
George Hammond, <nowhere1@notspam.org>, the battery-powered, arse-faced
vegetable, and sheep and wool smuggler, perspired:

On 18 Oct 2005 19:37:54 -0700, "jambaugh" <

> wrote:

<snip>

Regards,
James Baugh



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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:40:41 +0545, Kadaitcha Man
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George Hammond, <nowhere1@notspam.org>, the battery-powered, arse-faced
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On 18 Oct 2005 19:37:54 -0700, "jambaugh" <

> wrote:

<snip>

Regards,
James Baugh



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Hey, [Hammond]! Why does K-Man get two entries on your lits o' haet
when I get only one? I was the one who nominated you when you won Kook
of the Month, after all.
<...>

and please ask your news service to add:
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I tried to pull the last 200 posts from [Hammond]'s vanity group, but
there weren't any, even on servers that have pretty good retention.
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User: "Double-A"

Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 20 Oct 2005 06:28:44 PM
PJR wrote:

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:40:41 +0545, Kadaitcha Man
<nospam@*****-off-and-die.com> wrote in alt.usenet.kooks:

George Hammond, <nowhere1@notspam.org>, the battery-powered, arse-faced
vegetable, and sheep and wool smuggler, perspired:

On 18 Oct 2005 19:37:54 -0700, "jambaugh" <

> wrote:

<snip>

Regards,
James Baugh



[Hammond]
KILLFILE NOTICE:

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Hey, [Hammond]! Why does K-Man get two entries on your lits o' haet
when I get only one? I was the one who nominated you when you won Kook
of the Month, after all.

<...>

Probably because Kadaitcha Man is the one who post edited this list and
is posing as Hammond!
There is no reason for me to be on this list at all, because I have
hardly ever interacted with Hammond.
Double-A

and please ask your news service to add:
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I tried to pull the last 200 posts from [Hammond]'s vanity group, but
there weren't any, even on servers that have pretty good retention.

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User: "Dr. Flonkenstein"

Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 20 Oct 2005 06:49:42 PM
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:28:44 -0700, Double-A wrote:


PJR wrote:

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:40:41 +0545, Kadaitcha Man
<nospam@*****-off-and-die.com> wrote in alt.usenet.kooks:

George Hammond, <nowhere1@notspam.org>, the battery-powered,
arse-faced vegetable, and sheep and wool smuggler, perspired:

On 18 Oct 2005 19:37:54 -0700, "jambaugh" <me@jamesbaugh.info> wrote:

<snip>

Regards,
James Baugh



[Hammond]
KILLFILE NOTICE:

This killfile notice is updated periodically to discourage hecklers
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Hey, [Hammond]! Why does K-Man get two entries on your lits o' haet when
I get only one? I was the one who nominated you when you won Kook of the
Month, after all.

<...>



Probably because Kadaitcha Man is the one who post edited this list and is
posing as Hammond!

There is no reason for me to be on this list at all, because I have hardly
ever interacted with Hammond.

Double-A



and please ask your news service to add:
alt.sci.relativistic-proof-of-god.moderated


I tried to pull the last 200 posts from [Hammond]'s vanity group, but
there weren't any, even on servers that have pretty good retention.

PJR :-)
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<http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/>

Strangely I beat the ***** out of him, scientificallly speaking, and I'm
not on his litst.
??????
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are lines I will not cross unless I believe what I say is the true, I
know more then you."
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"WRONGO. There was NO Bible before King James had it written."
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Alexa "Word Salad" Cameron shows her knowledge of science:
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Pentagram?"
reminder: Message-ID: <pan.2005.09.01.00.52.15.77207@localhost.localdomain>
The quote naziwhore Don Ocean stole.
.




User: "jambaugh"

Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 28 Oct 2005 04:58:26 AM
Who was it on TV who would put his fingers in his ears and chant "nya
nya nya" so he couldn't hear criticisms?
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: KILLFILE NOTICE 28 Oct 2005 06:11:44 AM
On 28 Oct 2005 02:58:26 -0700, "jambaugh" <me@jamesbaugh.info> wrote:

Who was it on TV who would put his fingers in his ears and chant "nya
nya nya" so he couldn't hear criticisms?

George Walker Bush.
.



User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: God and Science Don't mix. 19 Oct 2005 01:34:58 AM
On 18 Oct 2005 19:37:54 -0700, "jambaugh" <me@jamesbaugh.info> wrote:


George Hammond wrote:

[snip]
Well guess what,
The SCIENTIFIC ANSWER to these questions
HAS been found.... and proven..... and published
in the peer reviewed scientific literature.


"The noetic journal seeks to fill this gap by boldly addressing a
complete epistemology that is not just confined to current myopic
limits of scientific phenomenology."

-From statement of purpose of that peer reviewed "scientific"
journal.

In short the very journal in which your article is published admits
that they are not a scientific publication by its standard definition.
They understand that science limits its epistimology in just such a way
as to exclude metaphysical questions of God and Soul and Mind as a
spiritual entity.

Note BTW George, the editor also uses the word "epistemology".
What does that make him?

Regards,
James Baugh

Sounds to me that they cheated, and used:
http://www.elsewhere.org/cgi-bin/postmodern/
The resemblence is too uncanny to be co-incidence.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: God and Science Don't mix. 18 Oct 2005 11:10:45 PM
Well guess what, The SCIENTIFIC ANSWER to these questions HAS been
found...
***********
Pantheism.
Equation => UNIVERSE = GOD
RELIGION = SCIENCE
And so on.......
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: God and Science Don't mix. 19 Oct 2005 03:12:53 AM
On 18 Oct 2005 21:10:45 -0700,
wrote:

Well guess what, The SCIENTIFIC ANSWER to these questions HAS been
found...

***********

Pantheism.

Equation => UNIVERSE = GOD

RELIGION = SCIENCE

And so on.......

And:
Ignorance = Strength
.

User: "Helmut Wabnig EmailAddress"

Title: Re: God and Science Don't mix. 19 Oct 2005 02:07:42 AM
On 18 Oct 2005 21:10:45 -0700,
wrote:

Well guess what, The SCIENTIFIC ANSWER to these questions HAS been
found...

***********

Pantheism.

Equation => UNIVERSE = GOD

RELIGION = SCIENCE

And so on.......

Wankers.
w.
.


User: "Pyriform"

Title: Re: God and Science Don't mix. 12 Nov 2005 11:27:40 AM
jambaugh wrote:

George Hammond wrote:

[snip]
Well guess what,
The SCIENTIFIC ANSWER to these questions
HAS been found.... and proven..... and published
in the peer reviewed scientific literature.


"The noetic journal seeks to fill this gap by boldly addressing a
complete epistemology that is not just confined to current myopic
limits of scientific phenomenology."

-From statement of purpose of that peer reviewed "scientific"
journal.

In short the very journal in which your article is published admits
that they are not a scientific publication by its standard definition.
They understand that science limits its epistimology in just such a
way as to exclude metaphysical questions of God and Soul and Mind as a
spiritual entity.

It's much worse than that. As I pointed out to George over a year ago,
the statement from the executive editor that appeared at that time on
the Noetic Journal site included the following:
"Noetics is the study of mind which utilizes the rigors of science,
the logic of philosophy, and the humility and absolute truth of
theology"
So the rigorous, peer-reviewed, academic journal that published George's
'scientific proof of God' has (or certainly *had*) as one of its central
tenets the 'absolute truth of theology'. Hell, they practically had
God's telephone number already! How could they possibly turn down
further corroboration of what they already knew to be true?
.
User: ""

Title: Re: God and Science Don't mix. 12 Nov 2005 11:30:10 AM
"absolute truth of theology"
*******************
So whose theology does one go by? Pick one at random?????
.
User: ""

Title: Re: God and Science Don't mix. 21 Nov 2005 02:42:35 PM
wrote:

"absolute truth of theology"

*******************

So whose theology does one go by? Pick one at random?????

Pick the theology of materialism of the scientists Sagan and Simpson:
Sagan, Carl. 1980. _Cosmos_ (NY: Random House), 365pp. Chapter
1's first line:
THE COSMOS IS ALL THAT IS OR EVER WAS OR EVER WILL BE.
1949 Simpson: "man is the result of a purposeless materialistic
process
that did not have him in mind":
Simpson, George Gaylord. 1949. _The Meaning of
Evolution: A Study of the History of Life and of Its
Significance for Man_ (New Haven: Yale University Press),
364pp., from the chapter "Epilogue and Summary" on 344:
Man is the result of a purposeless materialistic process
that did not have him in mind. He was not planned. He
is a state of matter, a form of life, a sort of animal, and a
species of the Order Primates, akin nearly or remotely to
all of life and indeed to all that is material.
On 343:
Although many details remain to be worked out, it is
already evident that all the objective phenomena of the
history of life can be explained by purely materialistic
factors.
Timeline of Materialism, Spontaneous Generation, and Blindwatchmaking
Views
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-348jecF47mfcjU1%40individual.net
Reality vs. worldview philosophy of materialism/ atheism
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3813ksF5ggkc3U1%40individual.net
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