"Robert J. Kolker" <robert_kolker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Michael Varney wrote:

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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

haha!

[Hammond]
I just knew Mickey would get a kick out of my appearance
in the "peer reviewed litteraahchauw"!

I detest book burning (normally), but I would have no hesitation
commiting -anything- that Fredrick Allen Wolf to the Flames. He is
soooo Bogus.

[Hammond]
Maybe there is an rational explanation of WHY
Frederick Allen Wolf has SIX (count em- 6)
books all by major publishers (Ballantine, Simon Schuster,
Random House etc. etc) in the Science section
of the local Border's Bookstore (a fabulously prominent
major bookstore chain by the way)? Is there just
a little bit of professional jealousy here.... could sour grapes
be why I am getting heckled on the physics Newsgroups..
... professional white collar JEALOUSY, is that the truth
about Hammond's critics? ENVY over Hammond's
discovery of
God=G_uv
is that it?

Bob Kolker

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Dear Physics sportsfans:

This is to notify you that Volume 4, Number 3 (July 2003)
of the NOETIC JOURNAL has just been printed and
mailed to subscribers, institutions, libraries, etc. world wide.
Yes, the Journal is printing about 6 months behind
(at present).. which is not unusual for academic journals.

At any rate, I have just received my 3 complemenatry
"author's copies" of Vol 4, No. 3 and it contains
TWO PAPERS by George Hammond:

1. A 13 page paper (illustrated) on page 231, entitled:

_A Semiclassical Theory of God_

(an online copy of this paper can be found at:
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/Hammond5s2.html
by the way.

2. A 1-page Letter to the Editor on page 273, entitled:

_Psychology Detects Quantum Brain Gravity_


BTW, the table of contents list for this issue and all other
issues may be found at:

http://www.mindspring.com/~noeticj/

as well as subscription information.

The NOETIC JOURNAL is published by the Noetic Institute
in Orinda California (Berkeley) and has nothing to do with
IONS (Institute of Noetic Science) located in Oregon.

As you will see the NOETIC JOURNAL publishes
many world famous authors such as:

Karl H. Pribram
Bruce Buchanan
Benjamin Libet
Henry P. Stapp
Fred Alan Wolf
Benny Shanon
Rupert Sheldrake
George Hammond

All of these authors (except me) have at least one or more
(some as many as 6) best selling Science books in your
local bookstores and hundreds of peer reviewed publications
in leading journals. Most of them are PhD's and/or Professors
at leading Universities.
The Editor is Richard L. Amoroso PhD (physics) an internationally
recogized authority in Relativity Physics, editor of books and journals
and popular keynote speaker at international symposiums in Gravity
research (Vigier IV, etc.), and a personal friend of Roger Penrose.
Hammond of course is the latest earthquake to be recognized
by this cutting edge and immensly popular hot new peer reviewed
journal.

====================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
====================================

"Robert J. Kolker" <robert_kolker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:U%iDc.185211$Ly.129009@attbi_s01...

Michael Varney wrote:

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

haha!

[Hammond]
I just knew Mickey would get a kick out of my appearance
in the "peer reviewed litteraahchauw"!

I detest book burning (normally), but I would have no hesitation
commiting -anything- that Fredrick Allen Wolf to the Flames. He is
soooo Bogus.

[Hammond]
Maybe there is an rational explanation of WHY
Frederick Allen Wolf has SIX (count em- 6)
books all by major publishers (Ballantine, Simon Schuster,
Random House etc. etc) in the Science section
of the local Border's Bookstore (a fabulously prominent
major bookstore chain by the way)?

Is there just
a little bit of professional jealousy here.... could sour grapes
be why I am getting heckled on the physics Newsgroups..
... professional white collar JEALOUSY, is that the truth
about Hammond's critics? ENVY over Hammond's
discovery of
God=G_uv
is that it?

George Hammond wrote:

"EjP" <nospam@hackers.are.bad> wrote in message
news:cbprv2$rq2$1@info4.fnal.gov...

George Hammond wrote:

Dear Physics sportsfans:

(...usual rambling crap...)

The NOETIC JOURNAL is published by the Noetic Institute
in Orinda California (Berkeley) and has nothing to do with
IONS (Institute of Noetic Science) located in Oregon.

Actually, "The Institute of Noetic Sciences"
http://www.noetic.org/
is in Petaluma, CA, but has branches elsewhere.
It was started by Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell.
At first glance, it looks fringy, but perhaps
quasi-legit.

One would think that "Noetics" was
a pretty cozy field, but amazingly, there is no
mention at all of "The Noetic Journal" or
Richard Amoroso anywhere at "The Institute of Noetic
Sciences" website.

[Hammond]
Naturally not. "IONS" as it is called is known to be
a crackpot organization that believes in UFO's

Hammond calling someone else a crackpot. Now *that's*
funny!!!

and other "sensationalist creationist" ideas.
Excuse me if I've exaggerated... but that's
what I've heard.

The one that publishes the vanity rag "The Noetic
Journal" is at various times called "Noetic Institute",
"The Noetic Advanced Studies Institute", "The Noetic
University", or even (when the mushrooms are peaking)
"The International Noetic University". Needless to
say, it has no academic reputation whatsoever.

[Hammond]
Really...?? I just received my "3 complementary authors
copies" of NOETIC JOURNAL Vol 4, Number 3
(with my two papers in it) and on the inside cover
25 internationally known people with their names and addresses
are listed as being on the Editorial Board, and not a
few of the PhD's in Physics, such as the following:


Richard L. Amoroso PhD (physics)......... Executive Editor
Dimitri Nanopolous PhD (physics) ........
Center for Theoretical Physics
Texas A&M
CERN, Theory Division
Geneva

Definitely a first-rate physicist,
http://faculty.physics.tamu.edu/dimitri/home.html
but he hasn't been a CERN staff member since 1986. Strangly,
although his webpage is pretty detailed, it makes no mention
of his association to the "Noetic Journal", and I
suspect his is unware of his affiliation.

I can guarantee
that this person never signed off on your paper.

George A. Christos PhD (physics)
Former student of Abdus Salam
Curtin Univ. of Technology
Perth

Interesting fellow. Here is his webpage:
http://www.maths.curtin.edu.au/~christos/
He's in the math deparment, not physics, and
his stuff on brain research seems to be mostly
a hobby. Some would say that his idea that SIDS
is caused by babies dreaming they are back in the
womb qualifies as crackpot. In any event, he
also has a very thorough webpage, which includes
his solution to Rubik's cube, but makes no mention
whatsoever about the Noetic Journal.

Fotini Pallikari PhD (physics).......
Dept. of Physics
U. of Athens

An assistant professor of physics at U. Athens
http://www.cc.uoa.gr/~fpallik/
Her qualifications are as a solid state
physicist, but she clearly has an interest
in the physics of consciousness. Seems legit,
but has published in Foundations of Physics
http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/papers/bell.html
which publishes such notables as Tom Bearden.

Again, makes no mention of her association to
the Noetic Journal. Either doesn't know about
it or is embarassed by it.

Menas Kafatos PhD (physics)
Prof & Dept Head
Inst. for Comp. and Science
George Mason U., VA

I never heard of him and his webpage is broken. Given his
credentials, I doubt that he ever read Hammond's paper.

Sisir Roy PhD (physics)
Author: Statistical Geometry &
Microphysicis Cosmology
Kluwer 1998
Physics and Math. Unit
Indian Statistical Institute
Calcutta

Seems to be a professor there. No telling what his
relationship is to the Noetic Journal.

The Indian
educational system is too complex to make a judgement
of any kind.

Fred Alan Wolf PhD (physics)
Prof. at U. London, Paris,
Hebrew U., San Diego State U.
Author of 11 books
Quantum Physics & Spirituality
San Francisco

As I said, he discovered kookdom was more fun than
legitimate science.

So there are 7 PhD's in Physics, all of whom are internationally
prominent (and that's not all of them).

The ones that are legit are probably on the list because they
agreed to an Email without reading it first.

Now if you don't
believe the Journal exists, or that they are on the editorial
board I suggest you call or email them.
And don't try to tell me that my _Scientific Proof of God_
hasn't been "reviewed and published by competent physicists",
because obviously IT HAS!! ...at LEAST 7 of the editorial board
members of the NOETIC JOURNAL are physicists, including the
Editor in Chief.

Most have questionable credentials, and certainly the one
genuine theorist never read your paper.

In fact, I suspect it doesn't really exist.
They don't have a website,

[Hammond]
Horseshit, the table of contents, contact info,
subscription info etc is given on the NOETIC JOURNAL
website located at:

http://www.mindspring.com/~noeticj/

So famous they can't even spring for their own
domain name, huh?

Anyway, no one is disputing that the "Noetic Journal"
exists. I was asking about the so-called "Noetic
Institute" (or Noetic University or what have you).

and any contacts are on
public ISP's. In short, this "institute" seems
to exist entirely to give Richard Amoroso something
to put after his name, since he can't get a real
job.

[Hammond]
If you want to email them:

email:

^^^^^^^

Again, where is the supposed Insitute??

c/o Noetic Press
120 Village Square #49
Orinda CA 94567-2502

Again, this is the press, not the Institute.
The city of Orina webpage
http://www.ci.orinda.ca.us/sitestour/sites.htm
lists the Village Square as "shops".

Face it, it's an office suite where they cash
checks from people dumb enough to subscribe
to the journal; nothing more.

or perhaps you could get in your car and go
to the above address and talk to them if you
don't think they exist.

As you will see the NOETIC JOURNAL publishes
many world famous authors such as:

Karl H. Pribram
Bruce Buchanan
Benjamin Libet
Henry P. Stapp
Fred Alan Wolf
Benny Shanon
Rupert Sheldrake
George Hammond

All of these authors (except me) have at least one or more
(some as many as 6) best selling Science books in your
local bookstores and hundreds of peer reviewed publications
in leading journals. Most of them are PhD's and/or Professors
at leading Universities.
The Editor is Richard L. Amoroso PhD (physics) an internationally
recogized authority in Relativity Physics, editor of books and journals
and popular keynote speaker at international symposiums in Gravity
research (Vigier IV, etc.),

He's not "an internationally recognized" anything. A web search
for his name yields mostly stuff related to this virtual
"institute". He's never published anything even vaguely scientific.

[Hammond]
MORE HORSESHIT. He just recently edited a textbook of
papers on RELATIVITY including several papers by himself
on HARD SCIENCE GENERAL RELATIVITY in a book
by KLUWER ACADEMIC PUBLISHERS in the Netherlands, one
of the worlds largest academic publishing houses. You can see
the table of contents including HIS PAPERS (and Wolfgang Rindlers)
at:

http://www.wkap.nl/prod/b/1-4020-0885-6?a=1

Quit your lying!!

He does seem to have organized a few "conferences", but they all
appear to be public wank-fests, as far as I can tell.

[Hammond]
I don't think VIGIER IV could be called a "wank fest"... not
with all those internationally famous PhD's in physics attending.

Well, here's the program
http://www.mindspring.com/~cerebroscopic/Program.html
Probably some reasonable talks got in, but notice there is
also a talk by Jack Sarfatti! I rest my case.

I was unable to find any bio of him, so there's no telling whether
or not he actually has a PhD.

[Hammond]
Yes, he keeps his bio and pix off the Internet to keep cranks like
you and the thousands heckling me from bothering him.
Obviously he's a PhD in physics or he wouldn't be co-editor
with 3 other PhD's of the above mentioned physics text book.

Eh, yeah, right. That's certainly convincing.

Although Hammond claims it's in
physics, I can find no such claim anywhere by Amoroso himself.
I suspect it's either from a degree mill or in a non-scientific
field.

[Hammond]
Incredible... he's personally aquainted with Roger Penrose,
and a simple reading of the titles of AMOROSO's PAPERS in the
above mentioned book shows that they are PhD
level papers in fundamental General Relativity Physics.

Actually, the stuff I've looked at is pretty similar to
Tom Bearden's or Jack Sartfatti's brand of jargon salad.

But this is all beside the point, George. The point is that
to judge the Noetic Journal, one only needs to know ONE fact:
the fact that they published your paper. That puts them out
of the game.

If the finest restaurant in NYC starts serving dog crap, it
doesn't prove dog crap has become a gourmet food,