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User: "George Hammond"
Date: 03 Oct 2005 12:44:42 AM
Object: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ?
Is Christianity a "human sacrifice" religion?
In a particularly hideous passage, Kleitarchos describes
how the flames from the Punic braziers caused children's
limbs to contract and their mouths to open in a grimace
known as "sardonic laughter" because the child appeared
to die laughing.
The discovery of "Tophet" cemetaries full of sacrificed
children in Carthage has shocked the world. The discovery
of frozen "Capacocha" (sacrificed) Inca children killed on
the Andes mountaintops 500 years ago, their frozen bodies
preserved for all the world to see, has likewise shocked the
world.
Today the naive are glibly told that the ancients
sacrificed their children to "appease the gods". Of
course any politically savvy person knows full well that
"sacrificing to the gods" is a method used by the RULING
ELITE, in any age, to terrorize the masses and scare them
into submission.
The idea of child sacrifice is simply this: Children are the
most precious possesion of Mankind. Therefore, anyone
who could deliberately "throw away" one of his children
must be so rich and powerful as to be greatly feared... so
that's exactly what the rich and powerful used to do....
deliberately kill one of their most precious children in front
of the entire public.. just to show how rich and powerful they
were and thereby warn everyone not to challenge them.
The ancient emperors themselves, in collusion with
the priests, started the whole idea as a means of intimidating
the population.
Later on this practice got toned down to the point
where they would only "sacrifice" precious cattle and
sheep... instead of actual children.
By the time of the Roman Empire "sacrificing to the
gods" had been reduced to the more civilized practice
of perhaps burning some money, or pouring a bottle
of expensive perfume on the fire.... a far cry from
the practices of previous centuries.
And then... along came Christianity. And how did
Christianity get so popular? .... well, it was founded on the
ritual execution of Jesus of Nazareth.... a cornered and
helpless prophet surrounded by the entire Roman army.
Human sacrifice REAPPEARED in religion!
Immediately the word went out... that the "king of the
Jews had been ritually sacrified" by the Romans. Because
of the legendary underdog status of Israel... the entire
Roman empire suddely realized that a "human sacrifice
religion" had once again appeared.... this time as the
most powerful religion in the world!
So there we have it... Christianity is a barbaric
Pagan religon based on HUMAN SACRIFICE... just
as the Punic and Inca religons were. And 1.3 billion
of us worship a Cross with this HUMAN SACRIFICE
nailed to it, hanging on the wall over the alter of
our local church every Sunday.
In this age of Atomic bombs, electric lights, jet travel,
and satellite t.v., isn't about time for something better?
Yes it is, and it turns out that SCIENCE has now
discovered a SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD that does
NOT depend on HUMAN SACRIFICE.
This scientific explanation and proof of God has been
published in the peer reviewed scientific literature, and
is fully reviewed on my website below:
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User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 05 Oct 2005 11:46:34 PM
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Why do the people who most need psychiatric help - attack psychiatry?

[Hammond]
Same reason people who don't know
what God is attack Religion.
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Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 06 Oct 2005 06:53:03 AM
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Why do the people who most need psychiatric help - attack psychiatry?



[Hammond]
Same reason people who don't know
what God is attack Religion.

Psychiatry is science, religion isn't;
and, no matter WHAT you bellow, there is NO evidence supporting he
existence
of ANY god.
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User: "Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 06 Oct 2005 02:08:26 AM
Religion & Psychiatry are two faces of the same coin, the one of Ignorance &
Contempt for Nature laws
The clowning of both sects would be highly amusing if not so pitiful, and so
pathetic in relation to those taking advantage & those taken advantage of.
Man is a religious miracles asking animal, bleating to walls, to the East
and to idols for it.. unable to see that the miracle is permanent in his
very existence, held within the Immense Forces in balance, and of which
the perfect Harmony render all impervious to their working. ... and this is
what the UPL or Universal Pressure Law, corner stone of the True Geology,
is about !
.... and as for the Divinity, it is present inside al things, and certainly
hidden indeed to the religious & psychiatrist sectarians
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Why do the people who most need psychiatric help - attack psychiatry?



[Hammond]
Same reason people who don't know
what God is attack Religion.

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Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 06 Oct 2005 06:36:53 PM
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Religion & Psychiatry are two faces of the same coin, the one of

Ignorance

& Contempt for Nature laws

?????? Don;t know much about psychiatry - do you!?!?!?!

The clowning of both sects would be highly amusing if not so pitiful,

and

so pathetic in relation to those taking advantage & those taken

advantage

of.

Man is a religious miracles asking animal, bleating to walls, to the

East

and to idols for it.. unable to see that the miracle is permanent in his
very existence, held within the Immense Forces in balance, and of

which

the perfect Harmony render all impervious to their working. ... and this
is what the UPL or Universal Pressure Law, corner stone of the True
Geology, is about !
... and as for the Divinity, it is present inside al things, and
certainly hidden indeed to the religious & psychiatrist sectarians

Oh .......... just another religiouis kook.
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User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 05 Oct 2005 01:52:41 AM
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 07:36:18 +0200, "Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud"
<mining_pioneer@remove.yahoo.com> wrote:
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"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> a écrit dans le message de news:
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snipped the Rabbid's rant

As you might not have understood, the Rabbid stalker is not interested in
the Truth being put forth for the Goys to know.
... his typical harassing is well known characteristic of his moral
standards deep deprivation type, and such drift in the all mental, moral,
intellectual, aesthetic & religious awareness sphere, conducted to most
infamous Dr Fraud of Vienna 's ranting & alleged discoveries ( completely
physiologically unfounded in fact) , of which that australian degenerate
moron is an unconditional sycophant. Dr Fraud himself when travelling by
ship to America to bring his pestilential Psychiatric / Analysis publicly
said : Those Goys don't realise this is the Plague I am bringing to them
(sic)

[Hammond]
Dear Sir Codd,
I perceive you are possessed of many devils.
Thankfully knowlege of the SPOG will exorcise you of that.
By the way, what Freud called the "Unconscious Mind", is actually
what religious people call "God". Freud knew it of course...
but being Jewish, and on the eve of WWII, he couldn't publish it.

You must make the most of it though, since on the 14th of October next, 35
anniversary of my Great Sandy Desert Mining Discoveries, from which I
received not a Cent nor a Thanks from the Land of Bastards, I will pull out
of geo.ng for good ! ... Just the way I have pulled out of those Australian
filth .ng for ever a while back.

[Hammond]
Can you tell us why you call yourself:
"The Father of Tue Geology"
and how did you lose so much money in your Sandy Desert
mining operations?


In your lack of replies I have noted you lack of moral courage, typical of
Goys, when going into the depth of your Xians, Slamists & Zews sects' real
arcane. Typical of Goys, you are spinning in the same thought circles &
vicious circles indeed into which you have been programmed in early years.

[Hammond]
The discovery of the SPOG (Scientific Proof Of God) has proven that
there are no Zans, Zlams, Zews or Goyz........ there are only 4-legged
humans, the Cross exists because all animals have 4-LEGS.... the
Cartesian Geometry of Space.
This Cross is a 4-LEGGED structure.... the Cartesian Coordinate
System of Spacetime. Hence God is caused by GRAVITY,
not by the Jews.

Indeed, the finding of that 6 000 years hushed up genetic manipulation
presented by all the Pops, Mollards & Rabbids as religion, is definitively
something a thousand time harder to find,

[Hammond]
HAMMOND has proven the world''s first SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION
of God.
God is caused by GRAVITY, not by men.

....than to discover the location of
the Submarine Gold ( Pt, Mn, Sn, Diamonds, Ti, Zn etc ) Placers Deposits in
the 7 seas, and to be able to estimate the potential of the largest one in
the South Atlantic at 40 millions tons of Gold indeed.

[Hammond]
How does Sir Codd, Father of Geology, know there is 40 million
ton of gold under the South Atlantic?

As a parting note, the History of the Earth & the History of Mankind is not
what you have been brainwashed indeed into believing. Being Goys most of
you, I know this will be difficult to understand. Hence, you will have to
take my word for it, and by personal retro-action, demonstrate to yourself
its validity.

[Hammond]
Bible says that "human reality" is 100,000 years old.... it doesn't
say that "physical reality" is 100,000 years old.... fact the Earth is
5 billion years old.
Fact that HUMAN REALITY is younger than PHYSICAL REALITY
only means that TIME ITSELF is a property of human reality, and thus
BEGAN when Man appeared 100,000 years ago.
Thus St. Augustine says:
The wold was created WITH time not IN time.
(St. Augustine)

Yours faithfully

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
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Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 05 Oct 2005 12:00:06 PM
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On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 07:36:18 +0200, "Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud"
<mining_pioneer@remove.yahoo.com> wrote:

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snipped the Rabbid's rant

As you might not have understood, the Rabbid stalker is not interested

in

the Truth being put forth for the Goys to know.
... his typical harassing is well known characteristic of his moral
standards deep deprivation type, and such drift in the all mental,

moral,

intellectual, aesthetic & religious awareness sphere, conducted to most
infamous Dr Fraud of Vienna 's ranting & alleged discoveries (

completely

physiologically unfounded in fact) , of which that australian degenerate
moron is an unconditional sycophant. Dr Fraud himself when travelling

by

ship to America to bring his pestilential Psychiatric / Analysis

publicly

said : Those Goys don't realise this is the Plague I am bringing to them
(sic)


[Hammond]
Dear Sir Codd,
I perceive you are possessed of many devils.
Thankfully knowlege of the SPOG will exorcise you of that.

About as much as knowledge of the Harry Potter series will help!

By the way, what Freud called the "Unconscious Mind", is actually
what religious people call "God". Freud knew it of course...
but being Jewish, and on the eve of WWII, he couldn't publish it.

Speaking wrongly for the dead again, George?
You cannot prove that insane assertion any more than you can support your
other insane assertions!
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User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 03 Oct 2005 10:35:12 PM
piggy backing..
(Daniel Weston)wrote..

Mark Earnest: Where in the hell did you learn about religion? Jerry
Farwell? The Romans did not kill Jesus for sedition.

Pilot washing his hands was only to try to clear his own conscience, because
he did in fact hand Jesus over to be crucified...and the charge was
sedition.
That is why the inscription PILATE wrote was..."This is Jesus, the King of
the Jews."
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User: "James Toupin"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 05 Oct 2005 04:08:14 AM
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piggy backing..
(Daniel Weston)wrote..

Mark Earnest: Where in the hell did you learn about religion? Jerry
Farwell? The Romans did not kill Jesus for sedition.


Pilot washing his hands was only to try to clear his own conscience,
because he did in fact hand Jesus over to be crucified...and the charge
was sedition.
That is why the inscription PILATE wrote was..."This is Jesus, the King of
the Jews."

It was indeed the Romans that crucified Jesus and the charge would have been
Sedition or Treason and possibly Inciting Unrest, due to Jesus' actions in
the temple on the day before Passover. The Romans are the ones who held
power and kept crucifixion as their own method of execution and a way of
controlling the masses.
Passover was always a tense time in Jerusalem during the Roman occupation as
it celebrates the deliverance of the Jews out of captivity in Egypt. Not
surprisingly, such a celebration would make the Jewish population more
cognisant of their desire for freedom and the yoke of Roman oppression.
Therefore Passover was often a time of unrest in Jerusalem and Pilate would
have had to leave his home in Caesarea to watch over Jerusalem during this
time of increased nationalist demonstrations.
The story of Pilate washing his hands was concocted by the writers of the
New Testament to absolve Rome of blame in the crucifixion of Jesus. You must
remember that the early church was trying to survive in the Roman Empire and
convert Romans to their beliefs. It would not have been a very wise
political move to blame Rome for the death of the founder of their new
religion. Pontius Pilate was a particularly effective and brutal governor of
Palestine in the first century BCE. He crucified thousands of Jews on far
less provocation than Jesus provided.
James




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User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 05 Oct 2005 10:51:03 AM
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 09:08:14 GMT, "James Toupin" <jtoupin@telus.net>
wrote:

(Daniel Weston)wrote..

Mark Earnest: Where in the hell did you learn about religion? Jerry
Farwell? The Romans did not kill Jesus for sedition.


Pilot washing his hands was only to try to clear his own conscience,
because he did in fact hand Jesus over to be crucified...and the charge
was sedition.
That is why the inscription PILATE wrote was..."This is Jesus, the King of
the Jews."


It was indeed the Romans that crucified Jesus and the charge would have been
Sedition or Treason and possibly Inciting Unrest, due to Jesus' actions in
the temple on the day before Passover. The Romans are the ones who held
power and kept crucifixion as their own method of execution and a way of
controlling the masses.

[Hammond]
Fact is, Pilate said he "found no official guilt in Jesus" and "washed
his hands" of the whole thing. Nevertheless he ordered the
Crusifixion. Hence, I say, and the Christians even claim, that
Jesus's death was a "sacrifice" and an "atonement" for world
sin. The evidence is therefore clear, that Jesus was a
"Human Sacrifice" and Christianity is a Human Sacrifice based
religion.

The story of Pilate washing his hands was concocted by the writers of the
New Testament to absolve Rome of blame in the crucifixion of Jesus.

[Hammond]
That is merely your opinion.
The handwashing ceremony was a well known
official Roman ceremony in the field of jurisprudence.

You must
remember that the early church was trying to survive in the Roman Empire and
convert Romans to their beliefs. It would not have been a very wise
political move to blame Rome for the death of the founder of their new
religion. Pontius Pilate was a particularly effective and brutal governor of
Palestine in the first century BCE. He crucified thousands of Jews on far
less provocation than Jesus provided.
James

[Hammond]
Hitler gassed 6 million Jews, mostly women and children,
on even less provocation. Who're you kidding?
Christianity, the world's most powerful religion, is a "human
sacrifice" religion, and until Christianity is overhauled and based on
a clear scientific explanation (proof) of God rather than a Human
Sacrifice, it will remain a primitive and highly dangeropus Religion,
and in fact the world's leading social liability.
Said scientific proof of God has been discovered adn published int
the peer reviewed scientific literature by the way:
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User: "James Toupin"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 05 Oct 2005 11:32:54 PM
"George Hammond" <ghammond1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 09:08:14 GMT, "James Toupin" <jtoupin@telus.net>
wrote:


(Daniel Weston)wrote..

Mark Earnest: Where in the hell did you learn about religion? Jerry
Farwell? The Romans did not kill Jesus for sedition.


Pilot washing his hands was only to try to clear his own conscience,
because he did in fact hand Jesus over to be crucified...and the charge
was sedition.
That is why the inscription PILATE wrote was..."This is Jesus, the King
of
the Jews."


It was indeed the Romans that crucified Jesus and the charge would have
been
Sedition or Treason and possibly Inciting Unrest, due to Jesus' actions in
the temple on the day before Passover. The Romans are the ones who held
power and kept crucifixion as their own method of execution and a way of
controlling the masses.


[Hammond]
Fact is, Pilate said he "found no official guilt in Jesus" and "washed
his hands" of the whole thing. Nevertheless he ordered the
Crusifixion. Hence, I say, and the Christians even claim, that
Jesus's death was a "sacrifice" and an "atonement" for world
sin. The evidence is therefore clear, that Jesus was a
"Human Sacrifice" and Christianity is a Human Sacrifice based
religion.

You are absolutely right that the Christians "claim" that Jesus was the
"Lamb of God", born to wash away the sins of the world, but claiming it
doesn't make it so. I am not arguing about what the claims of Christianity
are, only the historical facts that existed in 1st century Palestine and
Judea.
It was the Romans who condemned and crucified Jesus, the Jews simply did not
have that authority. If Jesus had been convicted of a crime against Israel
or the Jewish faith and was punished by the Jewish establishment, the
options available would have been either banishment, public stoning, or
beheading. The Romans simply did not allow the Jews to use crucifixion.




The story of Pilate washing his hands was concocted by the writers of the
New Testament to absolve Rome of blame in the crucifixion of Jesus.


[Hammond]
That is merely your opinion.
The handwashing ceremony was a well known
official Roman ceremony in the field of jurisprudence.

Hand washing was never a "well known official Roman ceremony". In fact, it
is a Jewish ritual of cleansing before prayer. See the link below for
details.
http://www.askmoses.com/qa_detail.html?h=286&o=132974




You must
remember that the early church was trying to survive in the Roman Empire
and
convert Romans to their beliefs. It would not have been a very wise
political move to blame Rome for the death of the founder of their new
religion. Pontius Pilate was a particularly effective and brutal governor
of
Palestine in the first century BCE. He crucified thousands of Jews on far
less provocation than Jesus provided.
James



[Hammond]
Hitler gassed 6 million Jews, mostly women and children,
on even less provocation. Who're you kidding?

I am not kidding anyone, and I am certainly not an apologist for Hitler or
the Christian faith. Once again I am simply stating facts. Pontius Pilate
was recalled to Rome for excessive mass cruelty. He was even to barbaric for
Roman standards. Hardly the type to be ordered to do anything by the Jewish
population, or to suffer a sudden attack of conscience over the crucifixion
of one man.
James


Christianity, the world's most powerful religion, is a "human
sacrifice" religion, and until Christianity is overhauled and based on
a clear scientific explanation (proof) of God rather than a Human
Sacrifice, it will remain a primitive and highly dangeropus Religion,
and in fact the world's leading social liability.

Said scientific proof of God has been discovered adn published int
the peer reviewed scientific literature by the way:

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User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 06 Oct 2005 02:44:31 AM
On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 04:32:54 GMT, "James Toupin" <jtoupin@telus.net>
wrote:

It was the Romans who condemned and crucified Jesus, the Jews simply did not
have that authority. If Jesus had been convicted of a crime against Israel
or the Jewish faith and was punished by the Jewish establishment, the
options available would have been either banishment, public stoning, or
beheading. The Romans simply did not allow the Jews to use crucifixion.

[Hammond]
You're a real Pollyanna.
Are you saying there is no causal link between
the CRUSIFIXION and the HOLOCAUST?
How come both victims are Jewish?
Is that supposed to be an accidental coincidence?
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Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 06 Oct 2005 06:54:37 AM
"George Hammond" <ghammond1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 04:32:54 GMT, "James Toupin" <jtoupin@telus.net>
wrote:



It was the Romans who condemned and crucified Jesus, the Jews simply did
not
have that authority. If Jesus had been convicted of a crime against

Israel

or the Jewish faith and was punished by the Jewish establishment, the
options available would have been either banishment, public stoning, or
beheading. The Romans simply did not allow the Jews to use crucifixion.



[Hammond]
You're a real Pollyanna.

Are you saying there is no causal link between
the CRUSIFIXION and the HOLOCAUST?

How come both victims are Jewish?

Is that supposed to be an accidental coincidence?

Yes, unless you can provide VALID evidence supporting your assertion.
Of course, supplying valid evidence is not something YOU ever do.
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Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 04 Oct 2005 06:08:00 AM
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 22:35:12 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<mark45@NOSPAMairmail.net> wrote:

piggy backing..
(Daniel Weston)wrote..

Mark Earnest: Where in the hell did you learn about religion? Jerry
Farwell? The Romans did not kill Jesus for sedition.


Pilot washing his hands was only to try to clear his own conscience, because
he did in fact hand Jesus over to be crucified...and the charge was
sedition.
That is why the inscription PILATE wrote was..."This is Jesus, the King of
the Jews."

[Hammond]
Hitler gassed 6 million Jews... all of them unarmed civilions, most of
them women and children. Few of them were charged with anything.
Are you going to sit there and say that the Third Reich executed them
for SEDITION. That claim is PREPOSTEROUS!
And it is just as preposterous to claim that PILOT executed Jesus for
sedition!
Jesus was executed because he was an UNORTHODOX JEWISH RABBI
preaching against the established church, plain and simple.
As Caphias said... it is better for one man to die for the nation
than for them all to die.
Hence......... Jesus was a religious HUMAN SACRIFICE.
and the whole Christian Religion is founded on that HUMAN SACRIFICE!
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Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 04 Oct 2005 06:49:32 AM
In article <nrn4k1h6u2bh3fshd8p2f6tutgri1rnj30@4ax.com>, George Hammond
<ghammond1@earthlink.net> wrote:

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 22:35:12 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<mark45@NOSPAMairmail.net> wrote:

piggy backing..
(Daniel Weston)wrote..

Mark Earnest: Where in the hell did you learn about religion? Jerry
Farwell? The Romans did not kill Jesus for sedition.


Pilot washing his hands was only to try to clear his own conscience, because
he did in fact hand Jesus over to be crucified...and the charge was
sedition.
That is why the inscription PILATE wrote was..."This is Jesus, the King of
the Jews."


[Hammond]
Hitler gassed 6 million Jews... all of them unarmed civilions, most of
them women and children. Few of them were charged with anything.

Are you going to sit there and say that the Third Reich executed them
for SEDITION. That claim is PREPOSTEROUS!

And it is just as preposterous to claim that PILOT executed Jesus for
sedition!

• The dude's name was Pontius Pilate.
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User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 04 Oct 2005 06:29:33 AM
On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:08:00 GMT, George Hammond
<ghammond1@earthlink.net> wrote:

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 22:35:12 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<mark45@NOSPAMairmail.net> wrote:

piggy backing..
(Daniel Weston)wrote..

Mark Earnest: Where in the hell did you learn about religion? Jerry
Farwell? The Romans did not kill Jesus for sedition.


Pilot washing his hands was only to try to clear his own conscience, because
he did in fact hand Jesus over to be crucified...and the charge was
sedition.
That is why the inscription PILATE wrote was..."This is Jesus, the King of
the Jews."


[Hammond]
Hitler gassed 6 million Jews... all of them unarmed civilions, most of
them women and children. Few of them were charged with anything.

Are you going to sit there and say that the Third Reich executed them
for SEDITION. That claim is PREPOSTEROUS!

And it is just as preposterous to claim that PILOT executed Jesus for
sedition!

Jesus was executed because he was an UNORTHODOX JEWISH RABBI
preaching against the established church, plain and simple.

As Caphias said... it is better for one man to die for the nation
than for them all to die.

Hence......... Jesus was a religious HUMAN SACRIFICE.

and the whole Christian Religion is founded on that HUMAN SACRIFICE!

[Hammond]
Fact is........ the entire "HOLOCAUST" was a deliberate act of HUMAN
SACRIFICE on a grand scale, perpetrated by the Third Reich in order to
terrorize and intimidate the masses which it intended to rule.
Germany is a Lutheran country, and Luther was knwon to be A rabid
antisemite. It was CHRISTIANITY in the hands of the Thrid Reich WHICH
CAUSED the HOLOCAUST..... it was the final phase of a HUMAN SACRIFICE
BASED RELIGION....... known as CHRISTIANITY. the enitre religion is
founded on the HUMAN SACRIFICE of Jesus of Nazareth.
Until CHRISTIANITY is OVERHAULED and put on a purely SCIENTIFIC BASIS,
and ceases to practice HUMAN SACRIFICE.. it will never succeed.
this is why the brown races (the Third World) will NOT accept
Christianity... because it is based on HUMAN SACRIFICE.
In fact.... even the MOSLEMS do not support the HUMAN SACRIFICE OF
JESUS as the foundation of Salvation in the world.


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Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 04 Oct 2005 03:36:02 PM
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this is why the brown races (the Third World) will NOT accept
Christianity... because it is based on HUMAN SACRIFICE.

Racist, bigoted fool. Your insular lack of understanding is showing its true
colours now.
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Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 05 Oct 2005 12:47:55 AM
You are the bigoted fool indeed, since calling a dog a dog and a cat a cat
is not being what you said. !
.... and the whole of your alleged Zemite & neo-Zemite Sects are in fact a
genetic experiment, which you Goys are unable to see ! Although it is
underlying all pages of your infamous mind boggling, mind blinding and mind
programming Biball !
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this is why the brown races (the Third World) will NOT accept
Christianity... because it is based on HUMAN SACRIFICE.


Racist, bigoted fool. Your insular lack of understanding is showing its
true colours now.

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User: "Eric Brze"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 04 Oct 2005 02:17:41 PM
On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:29:33 GMT, George Hammond
<ghammond1@earthlink.net> wrote:

Until CHRISTIANITY is OVERHAULED and put on a purely SCIENTIFIC BASIS,
and ceases to practice HUMAN SACRIFICE.. it will never succeed.

I believe Christianity is supposed to be the end of human sacrifice.


this is why the brown races (the Third World) will NOT accept
Christianity... because it is based on HUMAN SACRIFICE.

I believe that is a mistake in Christian doctrine.


In fact.... even the MOSLEMS do not support the HUMAN SACRIFICE OF
JESUS as the foundation of Salvation in the world.

I believe the doctrine was originated from the Jewish animal
sacrifice, something equally absurd and wrong.
.
User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 04 Oct 2005 05:22:07 PM
On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:17:41 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:29:33 GMT, George Hammond
<ghammond1@earthlink.net> wrote:

Until CHRISTIANITY is OVERHAULED and put on a purely SCIENTIFIC BASIS,
and ceases to practice HUMAN SACRIFICE.. it will never succeed.


I believe Christianity is supposed to be the end of human sacrifice.

[Hammond]
Really? Then how do you account for the biggest orgy of
RELIGIOUS HUMAN SACRIFICE known to man, the HOLOCAUST,
which happened 1,940 years after the founding of Christianity,
and was dreamed up and perpetrated by Christians in a Christian
country?

this is why the brown races (the Third World) will NOT accept
Christianity... because it is based on HUMAN SACRIFICE.


I believe that is a mistake in Christian doctrine.

[Hammond]
No... the Third World perceives that it was an "ethnic" guy who got
nailed to the Cross by a bunch of white guys, so they don't want
any part of Christianity... simple as that.

In fact.... even the MOSLEMS do not support the HUMAN SACRIFICE OF
JESUS as the foundation of Salvation in the world.


I believe the doctrine was originated from the Jewish animal
sacrifice, something equally absurd and wrong.

[Hammond]
No... it originated in the Pagan practice of HUMAN SACRIFICE as
practiced by the Canaanites, the Punics, the Phoenicians, the
Scandanavians, Ancient Greeks, Aztecs and Incas, and it even
exists in India today.
Animal sacrifice was a civilized step forward when they swiched
from HUMAN SACRIFICE to sacrificieng cows and sheep. The Jews
(who never condoned human sacrifice) probably even pioneered
animal sacrifice in an attempt to stop the Pagans from sacrificing
humans!
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Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 05 Oct 2005 05:39:08 AM
On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 22:22:07 GMT, George Hammond
<ghammond1@earthlink.net> wrote:

On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 15:17:41 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:29:33 GMT, George Hammond
<ghammond1@earthlink.net> wrote:

Until CHRISTIANITY is OVERHAULED and put on a purely SCIENTIFIC BASIS,
and ceases to practice HUMAN SACRIFICE.. it will never succeed.




I believe Christianity is supposed to be the end of human sacrifice.


[Hammond]
Really? Then how do you account for the biggest orgy of
RELIGIOUS HUMAN SACRIFICE known to man, the HOLOCAUST,
which happened 1,940 years after the founding of Christianity,
and was dreamed up and perpetrated by Christians in a Christian
country?

There have been many atrocities committed in the name of God and
executed by religions. You are only picking out one of them.




this is why the brown races (the Third World) will NOT accept
Christianity... because it is based on HUMAN SACRIFICE.


I believe that is a mistake in Christian doctrine.


[Hammond]
No... the Third World perceives that it was an "ethnic" guy who got
nailed to the Cross by a bunch of white guys, so they don't want
any part of Christianity... simple as that.

I think that's a very biased opinion. Not a very good excuse nowadays.



In fact.... even the MOSLEMS do not support the HUMAN SACRIFICE OF
JESUS as the foundation of Salvation in the world.



I believe the doctrine was originated from the Jewish animal
sacrifice, something equally absurd and wrong.


[Hammond]
No... it originated in the Pagan practice of HUMAN SACRIFICE as
practiced by the Canaanites, the Punics, the Phoenicians, the
Scandanavians, Ancient Greeks, Aztecs and Incas, and it even
exists in India today.

I think you are in total error to equal Christianity with human
sacrifice. Jesus was crucified because his teaching offended the
establishment of Jewish religious authority, not as a religious
ritual. It's the foolish ancient Jewish mentality to ritualize the
death of Jesus when they failed to grasp the spiritual meaning of
crucifixion and resurrection.

Animal sacrifice was a civilized step forward when they swiched
from HUMAN SACRIFICE to sacrificieng cows and sheep.

Obviously not civilized enough according to modern standard, not to
mention its absurdity and foolishness.
The Jews

(who never condoned human sacrifice) probably even pioneered
animal sacrifice in an attempt to stop the Pagans from sacrificing
humans!

Not much in my opinion.


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Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 05 Oct 2005 10:33:09 AM
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 06:39:08 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:

Until CHRISTIANITY is OVERHAULED and put on a purely SCIENTIFIC BASIS,
and ceases to practice HUMAN SACRIFICE.. it will never succeed.

I believe Christianity is supposed to be the end of human sacrifice.

[Hammond]
Really? Then how do you account for the biggest orgy of
RELIGIOUS HUMAN SACRIFICE known to man, the HOLOCAUST,
which happened 1,940 years after the founding of Christianity,
and was dreamed up and perpetrated by Christians in a Christian
country?

There have been many atrocities committed in the name of God and
executed by religions. You are only picking out one of them.

[Hammond]
I'm only picking out the BIGGEST one.

this is why the brown races (the Third World) will NOT accept
Christianity... because it is based on HUMAN SACRIFICE.

I believe that is a mistake in Christian doctrine.

[Hammond]
No... the Third World perceives that it was an "ethnic" guy who got
nailed to the Cross by a bunch of white guys, so they don't want
any part of Christianity... simple as that.

I think that's a very biased opinion. Not a very good excuse nowadays.

[Hammond]
We're only interested in facts not "opinions".
Fact is, India and the Orient in general
are non-Christian countries.

In fact.... even the MOSLEMS do not support the HUMAN SACRIFICE OF
JESUS as the foundation of Salvation in the world.

I believe the doctrine was originated from the Jewish animal
sacrifice, something equally absurd and wrong.


[Hammond]
No... it originated in the Pagan practice of HUMAN SACRIFICE as
practiced by the Canaanites, the Punics, the Phoenicians, the
Scandanavians, Ancient Greeks, Aztecs and Incas, and it even
exists in India today.


I think you are in total error to equal Christianity with human
sacrifice.

[Hammmond]
Again, we are not interested in "opinions" we are
only interested in facts. Fact is, Christianity is
FOUNDED on an incident of religously based
"human sacrifice".

Jesus was crucified because his teaching offended the
establishment of Jewish religious authority, not as a religious
ritual. It's the foolish ancient Jewish mentality to ritualize the
death of Jesus when they failed to grasp the spiritual meaning of
crucifixion and resurrection.

[Hammond]
Fact is, Christianity claims that Jesus was "totally innocent"
of any kind of crime under Roman law. Yet, he was
ritually, cermemonially and publicly murdered. And Christianity
itself claims that his death was a "deliberate sacrifice" and a
deliberate ritual "atonement" for world sin. By any other name that
is a "human sacrifice", and Christianity is therefore a "human
sacrifice" religion.


Animal sacrifice was a civilized step forward when they swiched
from HUMAN SACRIFICE to sacrificieng cows and sheep.


Obviously not civilized enough according to modern standard, not to
mention its absurdity and foolishness.

[Hammond]
Religious "Human Sacrifice" cannot be considered "foolish and absurd"
when it reaches the dimension of 6-million people as it did during the
official state organized Holocaust in the 1940's.

The Jews(who never condoned human sacrifice) probably even
pioneeredanimal sacrifice in an attempt to stop the Pagans from
sacrificinghumans!

Not much in my opinion.

[Hammond]
Again, this is a discussion of facts not "opinions".
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Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 06 Oct 2005 07:42:13 AM
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:33:09 GMT, George Hammond
<ghammond1@earthlink.net> wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 06:39:08 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:


Until CHRISTIANITY is OVERHAULED and put on a purely SCIENTIFIC BASIS,
and ceases to practice HUMAN SACRIFICE.. it will never succeed.



I believe Christianity is supposed to be the end of human sacrifice.



[Hammond]
Really? Then how do you account for the biggest orgy of
RELIGIOUS HUMAN SACRIFICE known to man, the HOLOCAUST,
which happened 1,940 years after the founding of Christianity,
and was dreamed up and perpetrated by Christians in a Christian
country?



There have been many atrocities committed in the name of God and
executed by religions. You are only picking out one of them.



[Hammond]
I'm only picking out the BIGGEST one.

Why does it matter? It's not a pissing contest. All of them are
equally evil.




this is why the brown races (the Third World) will NOT accept
Christianity... because it is based on HUMAN SACRIFICE.



I believe that is a mistake in Christian doctrine.



[Hammond]
No... the Third World perceives that it was an "ethnic" guy who got
nailed to the Cross by a bunch of white guys, so they don't want
any part of Christianity... simple as that.



I think that's a very biased opinion. Not a very good excuse nowadays.



[Hammond]
We're only interested in facts not "opinions".
Fact is, India and the Orient in general
are non-Christian countries.

But that fact may not support your biased opinion.




In fact.... even the MOSLEMS do not support the HUMAN SACRIFICE OF
JESUS as the foundation of Salvation in the world.



I believe the doctrine was originated from the Jewish animal
sacrifice, something equally absurd and wrong.


[Hammond]
No... it originated in the Pagan practice of HUMAN SACRIFICE as
practiced by the Canaanites, the Punics, the Phoenicians, the
Scandanavians, Ancient Greeks, Aztecs and Incas, and it even
exists in India today.



I think you are in total error to equal Christianity with human
sacrifice.


[Hammmond]
Again, we are not interested in "opinions" we are
only interested in facts. Fact is, Christianity is
FOUNDED on an incident of religously based
"human sacrifice".

I think that is your intentional misrepresentation based on a mistaken
notion of Christian doctrine. The idea of sacrificial lamb was due to
the historical influence of Jewish culture in its tradition of animal
sacrifice. It's not to be taken literally and it's certainly wrong to
consider the crucifixion of Jesus as human sacrifice. Anyone who has
the least bit of understanding about Christianity should be aware of
that.




Jesus was crucified because his teaching offended the
establishment of Jewish religious authority, not as a religious
ritual. It's the foolish ancient Jewish mentality to ritualize the
death of Jesus when they failed to grasp the spiritual meaning of
crucifixion and resurrection.


[Hammond]
Fact is, Christianity claims that Jesus was "totally innocent"
of any kind of crime under Roman law. Yet, he was
ritually, cermemonially and publicly murdered.

Which is a disgrace and tragedy.
And Christianity

itself claims that his death was a "deliberate sacrifice" and a
deliberate ritual "atonement" for world sin.

That is the explanation based on the animal sacrifice in Judaism.
Since animal sacrifice itself is wrong and absurd. It's clear the
explanation based on it may not be any better.
By any other name that

is a "human sacrifice", and Christianity is therefore a "human
sacrifice" religion.

I agree the Christian idea of sacrificial lamb may not be appropriate
under modern context, but you are certainly wrong to equate it with
human sacrifice.



Animal sacrifice was a civilized step forward when they swiched
from HUMAN SACRIFICE to sacrificieng cows and sheep.



Obviously not civilized enough according to modern standard, not to
mention its absurdity and foolishness.


[Hammond]
Religious "Human Sacrifice" cannot be considered "foolish and absurd"
when it reaches the dimension of 6-million people as it did during the
official state organized Holocaust in the 1940's.

I was talking about the animal sacrifice in Judaism. There is no human
sacrifice in Christianity. That is your misinterpretation of Christian
doctrine.



The Jews(who never condoned human sacrifice) probably even
pioneeredanimal sacrifice in an attempt to stop the Pagans from
sacrificinghumans!



Not much in my opinion.


[Hammond]
Again, this is a discussion of facts not "opinions".

Actually, what you said are all your opinions, and they are wrong.



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Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 06 Oct 2005 03:07:51 PM
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 11:04:24 -0700,
(Daniel Weston)
wrote:

It is amazing how people on this thread tell us with such certitude
about what happened at the time of the alleged Jesus. George H. tells
us with certitude that Jesus existed because the 12 apostles witnessed
his existence. They also "witnessed" his resurrection from the dead.
Does George buy that?

[Hammond]
Do I believe Jonah was swallowed by a whale? No.
Do I believe Jesus walked across lake Gallilee? No.
Do I believe Ahab stopped the Sun in the sky
and made it go back 1 hour? No.
Do I believe there"MIGHT BE" a
spiritual Life after death? It's a scientific
possibility
Comon.... this isn't an amateur discussion, people know
the difference between questions of historical fact and questions of
religious exegesis.... even if you don't.


There are no original copies of any of the books of the New Testament.
The most ancient copy was written about 400 AD.

[Hammond]
Wrong, there are half a dozen papyrus copies dating back to 200 AD.
they weren't accurately dated until after 1960.
Most of the New Testament was canonized by 180 AD. Prior to that
time Irenaeus, Origen, Polycarp and many others wrote
back and forth about the Gospels and much of this writing is still
extant, especially Irenaeus and Origin. Irenaeurs knew Polycarp who
actually knew St. John. The New Testament was widely circulated by
100 AD and discussed by hundreds of Church fathers, and their writings
are still extant. They report nothing that is not in the recieved
text today.
Besides that, Papyrus copies of the N.T. have been discovered in
the 20th century that reliably date the recievd text back to ca. 200
AD, and the sheer number of them shows that it was in wide circulation
by then. There are at least 7 complete copies of the N.T. dating from
250, and there is no major disagreement among them.
To claim that the received text of today isn't nearly word for word
accurate with the originals is more than highly improbable, it is well
nigh impossible.

Albert Switzer even stated that
the Book of John is an outright forgery.

[Hammond]
John’s Gospel is unique among the evangelists for two
early papyri (P66 and P75, dated c. 200) attest to Johannine
authorship.
The papyrus copies of the N.T. were discovered during the
1960's and only recently accurately dated.. Albert Schweizer
died in 1965.
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Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 06 Oct 2005 06:42:26 PM
"George Hammond" <ghammond1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 11:04:24 -0700,

(Daniel Weston)
wrote:

It is amazing how people on this thread tell us with such certitude
about what happened at the time of the alleged Jesus. George H. tells
us with certitude that Jesus existed because the 12 apostles witnessed
his existence. They also "witnessed" his resurrection from the dead.
Does George buy that?


[Hammond]
Do I believe Jonah was swallowed by a whale? No.
Do I believe Jesus walked across lake Gallilee? No.
Do I believe Ahab stopped the Sun in the sky
and made it go back 1 hour? No.

Do I believe there"MIGHT BE" a
spiritual Life after death? It's a scientific

possibility


Comon.... this isn't an amateur discussion, people know
the difference between questions of historical fact and questions of
religious exegesis.... even if you don't.

?????????//
You're the one making all kinds of insane, and psychotic, religous and
scientific claims.

There are no original copies of any of the books of the New Testament.
The most ancient copy was written about 400 AD.



[Hammond]
Wrong, there are half a dozen papyrus copies dating back to 200 AD.
they weren't accurately dated until after 1960.

Most of the New Testament was canonized by 180 AD. Prior to that
time Irenaeus, Origen, Polycarp and many others wrote
back and forth about the Gospels and much of this writing is still
extant, especially Irenaeus and Origin. Irenaeurs knew Polycarp who
actually knew St. John. The New Testament was widely circulated by
100 AD and discussed by hundreds of Church fathers, and their writings
are still extant. They report nothing that is not in the recieved
text today.
Besides that, Papyrus copies of the N.T. have been discovered in
the 20th century that reliably date the recievd text back to ca. 200
AD, and the sheer number of them shows that it was in wide circulation
by then. There are at least 7 complete copies of the N.T. dating from
250, and there is no major disagreement among them.

The creation (through religious politics) of the N.T. didn't happen untill
well after Jesus died.
What was in wide circulation was nothing more than a whole bunch of "word by
mouth" fables, corrupt claims and religous distortions.




Albert Switzer even stated that
the Book of John is an outright forgery.


[Hammond]
John's Gospel is unique among the evangelists for two
early papyri (P66 and P75, dated c. 200) attest to Johannine
authorship.
The papyrus copies of the N.T. were discovered during the
1960's and only recently accurately dated.. Albert Schweizer
died in 1965.

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User: "T Wake"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 06 Oct 2005 06:48:15 PM
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Do I believe there"MIGHT BE" a

spiritual Life after death? It's a scientific

possibility

What a fantastic phrase "Scientific Possibility" - promises soooo much but
actually means so little.
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User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 05 Oct 2005 11:43:05 PM
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:22:24 GMT, "Burgerman" <burgerman@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

The Christians say the Jews killed
Jesus, ....The Jews say that the Romans killed Jesus,...

All religion is nutty.

[Hammond]
That's what Eisenhower said about the Holocaust.

It was God who killed Jesus because Jesus was sent down to atone by
death for the sins of mankind ..

As far as I am aware there still is no supporting evidence of any gods.

[Hammond]
Really, the world's first scientific proof of God has been
discovered, proven and published in the peer reviewed scientific
literature 2 years ago:
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god

And it relates to reality and physics how?

[Hammond]
God=G_uv
is a PHYSICS equation.
it explains why 20% of the world is INVISIBLE
to YOU.... which explains your state of wonder.
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User: "ZenIsWhen"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 06 Oct 2005 06:55:40 AM
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:22:24 GMT, "Burgerman" <burgerman@ntlworld.com>
wrote:


The Christians say the Jews killed
Jesus, ....The Jews say that the Romans killed Jesus,...



All religion is nutty.


[Hammond]
That's what Eisenhower said about the Holocaust.


It was God who killed Jesus because Jesus was sent down to atone by
death for the sins of mankind ..



As far as I am aware there still is no supporting evidence of any gods.


[Hammond]
Really, the world's first scientific proof of God has been
discovered, proven and published in the peer reviewed scientific
literature 2 years ago:
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god

Same bellowing, same insanity!



And it relates to reality and physics how?


[Hammond]

God=G_uv

is a PHYSICS equation.

it explains why 20% of the world is INVISIBLE
to YOU.... which explains your state of wonder.

It explains nothing - it shows your insanity!
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User: "George Hammond"

Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 05 Oct 2005 02:20:01 PM
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:46:17 -0700,
(Daniel Weston)
wrote:

Who caused the death of Jesus? The Christians say the Jews killed
Jesus, to further traditional European anti semeticism. The Jews say
that the Romans killed Jesus, to absolve themselves from the irrational
and endless condemnation of the Christians.

Yawn.... where'd you go to Sunday school?


It was God who killed Jesus because Jesus was sent down to atone by
death for the sins of mankind acting out their
nature as created by God.

Yawn.... that's what the Aztecs said everty morining when they
sacrificed another 5 year old child to the Sun god.


There is serious concern among scholars as to whether Jesus of the Bible
ever existed.

No there isn't. Pontius Pilate's grave stone has even been located.

Josephas spoke of Jesus in his history, but the history
was written in Rome while in a Roman jail.

So?

There is no other corroborated evidence that he even existed.

What about the 12 Apostles who were eyewitnesses, and the
fate of many of them well documented.... e.g. Peter crusified upside
down in Rome and Paul beheaded during the Neronian persecution AD66,
James the son of Zebedee put to death by Herod Agrippa I in 44 AD.
Thomas died by a lance and buried in Edessa. Stephen stoned to death
in Paul's presence. James the son of Alpheus, Josephus reports he was
stoned and clubbed to death. John leader of the church in the Ephesus
and took care of Mary the mother of Jesus in his home. Exiled to the
island of Patomos during the Domitian persecution in the middle 90's
and there wrote the last book of the New Testament--the Revelation.
Died of old age.
There are a LOT of eyewitnesses to Jesus's ministry, life and
times.
Only a simpleton could doubt the existence of Jesus.
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Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 04 Oct 2005 09:22:24 AM
On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:29:56 GMT, Gary Eickmeier
<geickmei@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:



Daniel Weston wrote:

Mark Earnest: God so loved the world, that He gave his only begotten
son. It was God's sacrifice, not his son's. Why did God need his only
son to be sacrificed?

The reason was that when God made man with the propensity to sin, and
looked down and observed that man sinned as he was created to do, this
so angered God that men sinned, that the only thing that would appease
his wrath, was the sacrifice of his son. At the cross, when God looked
down and saw blood gushing from the mortally wounded son, this made God
feel so good, that he decided to forgive certain chosen people, from
eternal hell that he was sending all the rest of humanity to.

I know that this is true, because it came from the Fundamentalist
Southern Baptist Bible Belt.


But seriously - does this atonement theology make any sense to anyone?
They can't answer me in the Christian groups.
Gary Eickmeier

[Hammond]
Of course it doesn't make any sense. Religions that practice
HUMAN SACRIFICE (such as the Punic, Phonecian, Canaanite
Aztec, Inca and other religions) don't make any sense. It even
exists in Islam since Abraham nearly sacrificed his son.
In those religions the criminal leadership selects the
"most innocent" person they can find and ritually murders them
in front of the entire populace.... in order to TEACH THE PUBLIC A
LESSON and TERRORIZE and INTIMIDATE anyone who might be
thinking of being a "good guy" or a potential "liberator".
In the Punic, Canaanite, and Inca/Aztec case such people
could be recognized at a VERY EARLY AGE... even at BIRTH
in some cases, hence CHILD SACRIFICE. Jesus for instance was
recognized at BIRTH as a potential "normal but superior" personality
type... and was recognized as a potential "saviour" the day
he was born.
The reason CHRISTIANITY swept the Roman Empire like wildfire was
because it contained this nucleus of HUMAN SACRIFICE which appealed
to the Pagans of the day (the Crusifixion).
Ultimately it caused the HOLOCAUST however.... which "nobody can
explain", supposedly.
Well I can EXPLAIN IT........ it was the natural culmination of 2000
years of a Religion based on HUMAN SACRIFICE..... in which finally,
6 million innocent civilians (mostly Jewish women and childrens) were
the object of a national blood orgy of spectacular HUMAN SACRIFICE...
based on the sacrifiical origins of CHRISTIANITY, (Lutheran
Christianity in that case).
Until CHRISTIANITY is put on a sound, neutral SCIENTIFIC BASIS
(which can now be done since the scientific proof of God has been
found).... we run the continual risk of massive HUMAN SACRIFIC
(known collouqually as "genocides") at any time and any place that
Religion touches.
A SCIENTIFIC CHRISTIANITY would eliminate this HUMAN SACRIFICE
basis of Religion.
and by the way.... the Fundamentalists, and the Creationists are the
most advanced social forces attempting to establish this new
"scientific, literal, Christianity".... and thus eliminate the
HUMAN SACRIFICE basis of modern institutionlized Christianity.
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Title: Re: GOD=G_uv IS XTIANITY A HUMAN SACRIFICE RELIGION ? 03 Oct 2005 01:40:00 PM
George Hammond wrote:


Is Christianity a "human sacrifice" religion?

[snip crap]
Does paying a restaurant tab for eating the body and blood of Jesus H.
Christ while on your knees count toward the bottom line?
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