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GOD=G_uv the IMBECILITY of Stew Dean |
Stew Dean wrote:
[Hammond]
"The world (Universe=world=reality) DID NOT
AND COULD NOT *"EXIST"* until modern
man appeared. And the REASON for this is
that the word "existence" IS IN FACT a
perceptual manifestation (function, faculty) of
the human brain itself. No brains.. no "existence";
of ANYTHING!
[Stew Dean]
The world objectively existed before we existed.
Stew Dean
[Hammond]
Your statement proves that you are an IMBECILE.
You don't even know the meaning of the word "exists":
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Meaning of the word "exists"
The word "exists" means and only means
that something is "detectable, observable
or knowable to a human being". Thus, if
there are no human beings, nothing can be
said to "exist".
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[Hammond]
Since no "humans" existed prior to about 100,000
years ago..... QED "nothing existed".... including
"time itself", "history", "the universe"... or anything
else before 100,000 years ago.
The fact that the Earth is 5 Billion years old,
merely means that that a "5 Billion year history"
popped into "existence" 100,000 years ago when human
beings appeared and time itself came into "existence",
and history itself came into "existence".
As St. Augustine Bishop of Hippo put it:
"The World was created WITH time, not IN time"
(St. Augustine, ca. 300 ad)
YOU, being an upstart imbecile, think that the
World was crated IN time, and not "WITH time".
Frankly, St. Augustine is a lot smarter than
you are... and so am I.
Now quit playing games. Worldwide organized
religion testifies that the above FACT is the
cause of God. I.e. "God" is the study of the
phenomenon of "existence".. which as we now see
BEGAN only 100,000 years ago (as accurately
described in Genesis by the way).
Now if you want to sit there and pretend that
you know better than 5 Billion people... go ahead
.... but all it does is make you look STUPID!
I don't mind you being a loudmouth droning IMBECILE, as
long as you don't start harrassing me... but when you start
publicly harrassing me.... then it becomes my business to
publicly demonstrate that you are an IMBECILE!
And I have just done exactly that!
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| User: "Brett Aubrey" |
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04 Mar 2005 10:13:26 AM |
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<georgehammond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Stew Dean wrote:
[Hammond]
"The world (Universe=world=reality) DID NOT
AND COULD NOT *"EXIST"* until modern
man appeared. And the REASON for this is
that the word "existence" IS IN FACT a
perceptual manifestation (function, faculty) of
the human brain itself. No brains.. no "existence";
of ANYTHING!
[Stew Dean]
The world objectively existed before we existed.
Stew Dean
[Hammond]
Your statement proves that you are an IMBECILE.
You don't even know the meaning of the word "exists":
----------------------------------------
Meaning of the word "exists"
The word "exists" means and only means
that something is "detectable, observable
or knowable to a human being". Thus, if
there are no human beings, nothing can be
said to "exist".
----------------------------------------
When you're wrong, you're wrong. From Webster's Online:
Main Entry: ex·ist
Pronunciation: ig-'zist
Function: intransitive verb
1 a : to have real being whether material or spiritual <did unicorns exist>
<the largest galaxy known to exist>
The universe and everything in it "had real being" (i.e. "existed") before
puny man came along.
[Hammond]
Since no "humans" existed prior to about 100,000
years ago..... QED "nothing existed".... including
"time itself", "history", "the universe"... or anything
else before 100,000 years ago.
Poppycock!
The fact that the Earth is 5 Billion years old,
merely means that that a "5 Billion year history"
popped into "existence" 100,000 years ago when human
beings appeared and time itself came into "existence",
and history itself came into "existence".
As St. Augustine Bishop of Hippo put it:
"The World was created WITH time, not IN time"
(St. Augustine, ca. 300 ad)
YOU, being an upstart imbecile, think that the
World was crated IN time, and not "WITH time".
Frankly, St. Augustine is a lot smarter than
you are... and so am I.
Now quit playing games. Worldwide organized
religion testifies that the above FACT is the
cause of God. I.e. "God" is the study of the
phenomenon of "existence".. which as we now see
BEGAN only 100,000 years ago (as accurately
described in Genesis by the way).
Now if you want to sit there and pretend that
you know better than 5 Billion people... go ahead
... but all it does is make you look STUPID!
I don't mind you being a loudmouth droning IMBECILE, as
long as you don't start harrassing me... but when you start
publicly harrassing me.... then it becomes my business to
publicly demonstrate that you are an IMBECILE!
And I have just done exactly that!
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| User: "Brett Aubrey" |
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04 Mar 2005 10:08:01 AM |
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<georgehammond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109925006.098578.171370@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Stew Dean wrote:
[Hammond]
"The world (Universe=world=reality) DID NOT
AND COULD NOT *"EXIST"* until modern
man appeared. And the REASON for this is
that the word "existence" IS IN FACT a
perceptual manifestation (function, faculty) of
the human brain itself. No brains.. no "existence";
of ANYTHING!
[Stew Dean]
The world objectively existed before we existed.
Stew Dean
[Hammond]
Your statement proves that you are an IMBECILE.
You don't even know the meaning of the word "exists":
----------------------------------------
Meaning of the word "exists"
The word "exists" means and only means
that something is "detectable, observable
or knowable to a human being". Thus, if
there are no human beings, nothing can be
said to "exist".
----------------------------------------
When you're wrong, you're wrong... From Merriam-Webster's Online:
[Hammond]
Since no "humans" existed prior to about 100,000
years ago..... QED "nothing existed".... including
"time itself", "history", "the universe"... or anything
else before 100,000 years ago.
The fact that the Earth is 5 Billion years old,
merely means that that a "5 Billion year history"
popped into "existence" 100,000 years ago when human
beings appeared and time itself came into "existence",
and history itself came into "existence".
As St. Augustine Bishop of Hippo put it:
"The World was created WITH time, not IN time"
(St. Augustine, ca. 300 ad)
YOU, being an upstart imbecile, think that the
World was crated IN time, and not "WITH time".
Frankly, St. Augustine is a lot smarter than
you are... and so am I.
Now quit playing games. Worldwide organized
religion testifies that the above FACT is the
cause of God. I.e. "God" is the study of the
phenomenon of "existence".. which as we now see
BEGAN only 100,000 years ago (as accurately
described in Genesis by the way).
Now if you want to sit there and pretend that
you know better than 5 Billion people... go ahead
... but all it does is make you look STUPID!
I don't mind you being a loudmouth droning IMBECILE, as
long as you don't start harrassing me... but when you start
publicly harrassing me.... then it becomes my business to
publicly demonstrate that you are an IMBECILE!
And I have just done exactly that!
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05 Mar 2005 05:39:47 AM |
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wrote:
Stew Dean wrote:
[Hammond]
"The world (Universe=world=reality) DID NOT
AND COULD NOT *"EXIST"* until modern
man appeared. And the REASON for this is
that the word "existence" IS IN FACT a
perceptual manifestation (function, faculty) of
the human brain itself. No brains.. no "existence";
of ANYTHING!
[Stew Dean]
The world objectively existed before we existed.
Stew Dean
[Hammond]
Your statement proves that you are an IMBECILE.
You don't even know the meaning of the word "exists":
----------------------------------------
Meaning of the word "exists"
The word "exists" means and only means
that something is "detectable, observable
or knowable to a human being". Thus, if
there are no human beings, nothing can be
said to "exist".
----------------------------------------
[Stew Dean]
Even by you definition I am right because through observation we can
see the world existed prior to our apperance.
That's the point dumbwit.
[Hammond]
NO... IMBECILE... that's only "retrospective existence".
I.e "through observation" we can confirm NOW that "a million year
history 'came into existence" when we appeared 100k years ago".....
but 100,000 years ago there WERE NO HUMANS TO MAKE SUCH AN
OBSERVATION.... hence 100k years ago it could not be said that
"the world existed a million years ago"...and:
THAT IS THE POINT INBECILE!
St. Augustine Bishop of Hippo said it 1700 years ago
when he said:
"The world was created WITH time, not IN time".
(St. Augustine ca. 300 ad)
You as an upstart imbecile, think the world was created
"in time" and not "with time". St. Augustine was a lot
marter than you, and so am I.
Fact is 1700 years ago St. Augustine and the entire Church
heirarchy were aware of IMBECILES like you, but they couldn't
SCIENTIFICALLY PROVE IT.
NOW, I HAVE SCIENTIFICALLY PROVED IT...
... YOU'RE AN IMBECILE!!
<snip rest of imbecilic trash by Stew Dean>
---------Original post--------------------
Stew Dean wrote:
[Hammond]
"The world (Universe=world=reality) DID NOT
AND COULD NOT *"EXIST"* until modern
man appeared. And the REASON for this is
that the word "existence" IS IN FACT a
perceptual manifestation (function, faculty) of
the human brain itself. No brains.. no "existence";
of ANYTHING!
[Stew Dean]
The world objectively existed before we existed.
Stew Dean
[Hammond]
Your statement proves that you are an IMBECILE.
You don't even know the meaning of the word "exists":
----------------------------------------
Meaning of the word "exists"
The word "exists" means and only means
that something is "detectable, observable
or knowable to a human being". Thus, if
there are no human beings, nothing can be
said to "exist".
----------------------------------------
[Hammond]
Since no "humans" existed prior to about 100,000
years ago..... QED "nothing existed".... including
"time itself", "history", "the universe"... or anything
else before 100,000 years ago.
The fact that the Earth is 5 Billion years old,
merely means that that a "5 Billion year history"
popped into "existence" 100,000 years ago when human
beings appeared and time itself came into "existence",
and history itself came into "existence".
As St. Augustine Bishop of Hippo put it:
"The World was created WITH time, not IN time"
(St. Augustine, ca. 300 ad)
YOU, being an upstart imbecile, think that the
World was crated IN time, and not "WITH time".
Frankly, St. Augustine is a lot smarter than
you are... and so am I.
Now quit playing games. Worldwide organized
religion testifies that the above FACT is the
cause of God. I.e. "God" is the study of the
phenomenon of "existence".. which as we now see
BEGAN only 100,000 years ago (as accurately
described in Genesis by the way).
Now if you want to sit there and pretend that
you know better than 5 Billion people... go ahead
.... but all it does is make you look STUPID!
I don't mind you being a loudmouth droning IMBECILE, as
long as you don't start harrassing me... but when you start
publicly harrassing me.... then it becomes my business to
publicly demonstrate that you are an IMBECILE!
And I have just done exactly that!
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| User: "shrikeback" |
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05 Mar 2005 12:28:55 PM |
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<georgehammond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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georgehammond@hotmail.com wrote:
THAT IS THE POINT INBECILE!
St. Augustine Bishop of Hippo said it 1700 years ago
when he said:
"The world was created WITH time, not IN time".
(St. Augustine ca. 300 ad)
In time for what?
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| User: "George Hammond" |
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05 Mar 2005 10:28:24 PM |
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"shrikeback" <hewpiedawg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<georgehammond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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georgehammond@hotmail.com wrote:
THAT IS THE POINT INBECILE!
St. Augustine Bishop of Hippo said it 1700 years ago
when he said:
"The world was created WITH time, not IN time".
(St. Augustine ca. 300 ad)
In time for what?
[Hammond]
In time for us to die, moron.
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| User: "Murf" |
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08 Mar 2005 10:45:25 AM |
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ha ha ha ha so George is still at it
I refer to MY OWN WORK in the third person to make it sound grown up
and that there might be ONE other PERSON who does not think I'm a twat
a twat that seems to spend too much time at a PC screen btw..
Get out more.
Leave home - mom would be happy
ha ha ha
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| User: "Lady Chatterly" |
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08 Mar 2005 01:42:44 PM |
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In article <1110300325.271316.196880@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>
Murf <rob_murfin@hotmail.com> wrote:
I refer to MY OWN WORK in the third person to make it sound grown up
and that there might be ONE other PERSON who does not think I'm a twat
Oh, you are, are you?
a twat that seems to spend too much time at a PC screen btw..
An angry man is not fit to pray.
Get out more.
20.
Leave home - mom would be happy
Sigh.
ha ha ha
Good luck.
--
Lady Chatterly
"Wups, looks like we've provoked 'Lady Chatterly,' the 'AI' chatterbot
program. It will be interesting to see if we can tell much difference
between the mindless Lady Chatterly program, and the ramblings of
John Chatterteeth Ghode." -- Sbharris
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| User: "Gary Eickmeier" |
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05 Mar 2005 10:07:06 AM |
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wrote:
wrote:
Stew Dean wrote:
[Stew Dean]
Even by you definition I am right because through observation we can
see the world existed prior to our apperance.
That's the point dumbwit.
[Hammond]
NO... IMBECILE... that's only "retrospective existence".
I.e "through observation" we can confirm NOW that "a million year
history 'came into existence" when we appeared 100k years ago".....
but 100,000 years ago there WERE NO HUMANS TO MAKE SUCH AN
OBSERVATION.... hence 100k years ago it could not be said that
"the world existed a million years ago"...and:
THAT IS THE POINT INBECILE!
The truth is, nothing existed before George Hammond. Everything else, to
George, is just retrospective existence. I mean, how can George know
that everything didn't just pop into existence a moment before he was born?
Gary Eickmeier
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| User: "George Hammond" |
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05 Mar 2005 12:20:37 PM |
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"Gary Eickmeier" <geickmei@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:KOkWd.129000$qB6.67116@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
georgehammond@hotmail.com wrote:
georgehammond@hotmail.com wrote:
Stew Dean wrote:
[Stew Dean]
Even by you definition I am right because through observation we can
see the world existed prior to our apperance.
That's the point dumbwit.
[Hammond]
NO... IMBECILE... that's only "retrospective existence".
I.e "through observation" we can confirm NOW that "a million year
history 'came into existence" when we appeared 100k years ago".....
but 100,000 years ago there WERE NO HUMANS TO MAKE SUCH AN
OBSERVATION.... hence 100k years ago it could not be said that
"the world existed a million years ago"...and:
THAT IS THE POINT INBECILE!
The truth is, nothing existed before George Hammond. Everything else, to
George, is just retrospective existence. I mean, how can George know
that everything didn't just pop into existence a moment before he was
born?
Gary Eickmeier
[Hammond]
Think about it Gary.... IT DID "pop into existence the day you
were born"! However, there were OTHER humans around
before you were born, so the "world existed" before you were born.
HOWEVER... 100,000 years ago there were "no humans" around...
so therefore the "world as we know it" DID NOT EXIST
BEFORE THE FIRST HUMAN WAS BORN.
AND DON'T GET THE NOTION... that this is just a "silly academic
wrangle"... IT'S NOT! The fact that the human brain (the whole body
in fact) is NOT fully grown... thurs this obscure academic point
into one of the most SPECTACULAR AND WIDELY
KNOWN SCIENTIFIC PHENOMENON KNOWN
TO CIVILIZATION..... namely the 'phenomenon of "God".. which
as you know is the most widely talked about phenomenon in
human history!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| User: "xeno" |
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05 Mar 2005 07:54:47 PM |
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On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, George Hammond wrote:
[Hammond]
Think about it Gary.... IT DID "pop into existence the day you
were born"! However, there were OTHER humans around
before you were born, so the "world existed" before you were born.
You can't claim the world pops into existence when someone is born & then
spin around & say the world existed before, w/o contradiction. If you're
trying to say that the world needs the consciousness of some sentient
being in order to exist, you don't take into account the sentience of
other speicies. But behind all this malarkey you're putting forth here,
your premise is really that the world needs life to exist rather than the
other way around. Maybe you think it's clever to put the cart before the
horse but it's still clueless nonetheless.
HOWEVER... 100,000 years ago there were "no humans" around... so
therefore the "world as we know it" DID NOT EXIST BEFORE THE FIRST HUMAN
WAS BORN.
The "world as we know it" just means the world with human beings. That
doesn't signify that the world didn't exist before w/o human beings. SPOG
is SPAM, (Scatterbrained Perniciously Asinine Malarkey)
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| User: "George Hammond" |
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05 Mar 2005 10:13:05 PM |
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"xeno" <xeno@transbay.net> wrote in
message news:20050305172024.Y29516@synergy.transbay.net...
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, George Hammond wrote:
[Hammond]
Think about it Gary.... IT DID "pop into existence the day you
were born"! However, there were OTHER humans around
before you were born, so the "world existed" before you were born.
You can't claim the world pops into existence when someone is born & then
spin around & say the world existed before, w/o contradiction.
[Hammond]
1. It popped into existence for HIM!
2. It din't pop into existence for the human race,
since THAT happened 100,000 years ago
when Homo Sapiens first appeared.
3. Whaddau got a thought disorder.. there IS NO
contradiction!
If you're
trying to say that the world needs the consciousness of some sentient
being in order to exist,
[Hammond]
YES.... YES, YES... for god fuckin sakes... that's EXACTLY
what I, St. Augustine, Jesus, the Bible and the whole of
Christianity, and now MODERN SCIENCE is saying!!!!!!!!
you don't take into account the sentience of
other species.
[Hammond]
"Other species" DON'T COUNT..... because they don't see
the "world as we know it". They see "different worlds"....
i.e.... "different realities". A dog can hear utrasonic sound
but he can't understand language. A bird can see an insect
at 100 feet, but he can't read a stop sign.
"Other world's" DON'T COUNT when it comes to what
we call "existence"... "existence" ONLY MEANS:
"detectable, observable or knowable" to a HUMAN BEING!
After all, the God of Man is a MAN, while the God of a
dog is a DOG and the God of a bird is a BIRD.
But behind all this malarkey you're putting forth here,
your premise is really that the world needs life to exist rather than the
other way around.
[Hammond]
YES, A THOUSAND TIMES YES. The operational meaning
of the word "EXISTENCE" is formally and axiomatically
connected with the existence of LIFE.... human life in particular.
Just because it is a common SLUR... and an idiotic GLOSS
to assume "existence" existed prior to the existence of MAN,
DOES NOT MEAN that that common SLUR does not cause
an ENORMOUS fallacy in human reality! To assume that that
COMMON GLOSS is true.... is to IGNORE THE EXISTENCE
OF GOD... which is the principle source of ignorance in
our civilization!
There are only two kinds of people:
1. Those who don't know it's a GLOSS and are therefore
IGNORANT OF GOD.
2. Those who know it's a GLOSS, and therefore know what
God is.
3. Obviously, you are in the camp of the uneducated as
most people have been for 2,000 years... BUT NOW,
SCIENCE has discovered the difference, and you are
about to become educated whether you like it or not!
Maybe you think it's clever to put the cart before the
horse but it's still clueless nonetheless.
[Hammond]
NO.... YOU'RE CLUELESS and have been for 2,000 years
and the world is about fed up with it.
1. Jesus tried to tell you about it.
2. St. Auguustine tried to tell you about it.
3. Mary Baker Eddy tried to tell you about it.
4. Christianity tried to tell you about it.
5. Ozark mountain Fundamentalist hillbillies who
understand it tried to tell you about it.
6. BUT FINALLY, some outraged physicist found
a direct and simple axiomatic physics, experimentally
confirmed proof of it, that is now going to kick your
***** into understanding it.
HOWEVER... 100,000 years ago there were "no humans" around... so
therefore the "world as we know it" DID NOT EXIST BEFORE THE
FIRST HUMAN WAS BORN.
The "world as we know it" just means the world with human beings.
[Hammond]
No kiddin Sherlock.
That
doesn't signify that the world didn't exist before w/o human beings.
[Hammond]
Oh sure, the "world as clams know it" existed, and the "world as frogs
know it" existed... but what does that have to do with YOU moron?
Have you ever talked to a clam or a frog?
Get real.... because Religion already has with the discovery of a scientific
proof of God, and it's now hunting down troublemakers and wiseasses
like you. If you think the Inquisition was something... keep it up and
see what it looks like this time! That's not a threat from ME pal....
that's a warning from ME abut the handwriting on the wall in the
Third World! If you think car bombs in the hands of a few criminal
terrorists are awesome... consider what it would be like if a
billion Religious believers dying of starvvation in the Third World
ever get the idea you're trying to suppress the discovery of a scientic
proof of God!! Think about Bush's plan to defeat "world tyranny"
and then think about the importance of having the scientific proof
of God "on our side" instead of "against us". Whaddaru a moron...
you want to die in a global revolution or something?
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| User: "Apocalypso Now" |
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05 Mar 2005 10:24:24 PM |
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"George Hammond" <nowhere1@nospam.net> wrote in message
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After all, the God of Man is a MAN, while the God of a
dog is a DOG and the God of a bird is a BIRD.
You know, this keeps getting better and better... keep 'em coming, George!
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| User: "Earle Jones" |
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06 Mar 2005 02:54:38 PM |
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In article <lrvWd.3189$603.1621@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"George Hammond" <nowhere1@nospam.net> wrote:
[...]
[Hammond]
NO.... YOU'RE CLUELESS and have been for 2,000 years
and the world is about fed up with it.
1. Jesus tried to tell you about it.
2. St. Auguustine tried to tell you about it.
3. Mary Baker Eddy tried to tell you about it....
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George: Greetings!
Speaking of Mary Baker Eddy, what ever happened to your overtures to
the Christian Science Church?
earle
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"Earle Jones" <earle.jones@comcast.net> wrote in message
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In article <lrvWd.3189$603.1621@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"George Hammond" <nowhere1@nospam.net> wrote:
[...]
[Hammond]
NO.... YOU'RE CLUELESS and have been for 2,000 years
and the world is about fed up with it.
1. Jesus tried to tell you about it.
2. St. Auguustine tried to tell you about it.
3. Mary Baker Eddy tried to tell you about it....
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George: Greetings!
Speaking of Mary Baker Eddy, what ever happened to your overtures to
the Christian Science Church?
earle
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[Hammond]
Oh for christ's sake Earle... as you must know, the Christian Science
Church is run by women, since it was founded by a woman. Do you
really think that a bunch of women are going to be able to help ME..
when I'm standing here telling every man on the planet of the new
"Acceptable yea're of the Lord"? Give me a break, it's going to
take the entire US Army eventually (e.g. in Bush's "war on tyranny")
to back up this development. For chrissakes, I can't even find one
"90 day wonder" on the Internet who dare to support me!
But I'll tell you one thing Earle... just between you me and the
side of the wharf.... it sure is a heady feeling knowing that I have now
turned the tables on all the stuffshirts and prigs who have oppressed
me all of my life, and have now had the pleasure of kicking them square
in the pants, publicly and historically.... there is no greater reward in
this world than THAT!
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07 Mar 2005 10:26:27 AM |
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George Hammond wrote:
But I'll tell you one thing Earle... just between you me and the
side of the wharf.... it sure is a heady feeling knowing that I have now
turned the tables on all the stuffshirts and prigs who have oppressed
me all of my life, and have now had the pleasure of kicking them square
in the pants, publicly and historically.... there is no greater reward in
this world than THAT!
Yah - you really nailed them, George! I hate to see anyone suffer, though...
Gary Eickmeier
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06 Mar 2005 03:42:16 AM |
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On Sun, 6 Mar 2005, George Hammond wrote:
You can't claim the world pops into existence when someone is born & then
spin around & say the world existed before, w/o contradiction.
[Hammond]
1. It popped into existence for HIM!
He popped into the world, not the other way around.
2. It din't pop into existence for the human race,
since THAT happened 100,000 years ago
Evidently, the world existed before human beings arrived. You're probably
eqivocating between the notion of the world & the notion of the human
world, (i.e., society).
when Homo Sapiens first appeared.
3. Whaddau got a thought disorder.. there IS NO
contradiction!
The disorder is in your theory. It is inconsistent in what it means by the
world.
you don't take into account the sentience of
other species.
[Hammond]
"Other species" DON'T COUNT..... because they don't see
the "world as we know it". They see "different worlds"....
i.e.... "different realities".
Different realities in this context means different perspectives of the
same world, not different worlds.
[Hammond]
Oh sure, the "world as clams know it" existed, and the "world as frogs
know it" existed... but what does that have to do with YOU moron?
The world's existence is evidently prior to all the above.
If you think the Inquisition was something... keep it up and
see what it looks like this time!
The last refuge of the incompetent is to make idle threats.
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06 Mar 2005 06:53:11 AM |
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"Gwar" <gwar@zap.zip.zots> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.58.0503060047220.2808@natasha.toon.net...
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005, George Hammond wrote:
You can't claim the world pops into existence when someone is born &
then
spin around & say the world existed before, w/o contradiction.
[Hammond]
1. It popped into existence for HIM!
He popped into the world, not the other way around.
[Hammond]
That's what morons think.... and you're a moron.
2. It din't pop into existence for the human race,
since THAT happened 100,000 years ago
Evidently, the world existed before human beings arrived. You're probably
eqivocating between the notion of the world & the notion of the human
world, (i.e., society).
[Hammond]
No I'm referring to the operational meaning of
the world "existence". The only way PHYSICS
can prove something "exists" is for an "observer"
(i.e. a human being) to "observe" it. Therefore,
prior to 100,000 b.c. the word "existence" HAD
NO OPERATIONAL MEANING.
Whaddaru, stupid or something?
when Homo Sapiens first appeared.
3. Whaddau got a thought disorder.. there IS NO
contradiction!
The disorder is in your theory. It is inconsistent in what it means by the
world.
[Hammond]
Really... there are 1.3 billion Christians plus 4 billion other
adherents to organized religion worldwide.... ALL of whom
subscribe to this opinion. Therefore, de facto, the "world"
agrees with Hammond. In fact... Hammond's theory of
the creation of the world is ACCURATELY DESCRIBED
IN GENESIS... which the Western world subscribes to.
There is no "Big Bang" in the book of Genesis... the
world was created at the SAME TIME Man was created
in Genesis.. along with billion year old fossils and all.
what n' the hell is wrong with you... why don't you get
some degrees in Physics like I have?
you don't take into account the sentience of
other species.
[Hammond]
"Other species" DON'T COUNT..... because they don't see
the "world as we know it". They see "different worlds"....
i.e.... "different realities".
Different realities in this context means different perspectives of the
same world, not different worlds.
[Hammond]
THAT'S CORRECT. However, you underestimate the word
"perspective"... a physics operational meaning of the word
translates into "different realities" in any formal scientific
analysis. WAKE UP... you're one of the last idiots on
Earth not to understand what God is.
[Hammond]
Oh sure, the "world as clams know it" existed, and the "world as frogs
know it" existed... but what does that have to do with YOU moron?
The world's existence is evidently prior to all the above.
[Hammond]
NOT when you actually formally define the operational
meaning of the world "existence". You're going in circles
Robin. You're TOTALLY IGNORANT of what God is
and what Religion is all about.... and NOW there is no longer
an excuse for it... because GOD has been scientifically
explained and proven to two decimal points. You're
an anachronism looking for a place to happen.
If you think the Inquisition was something... keep it up and
see what it looks like this time!
The last refuge of the incompetent is to make idle threats.
[Hammond]
When 4 billion 3rd world starving people find out that
a scientific proof of God has been discovered, and
overpriviliged loudmouth elitist dipshits like you are
standing in the way of a miracle of relief from tyranny
and oppression, it won't be an "idle" threat... let me assure
you. With the number of handguns, automatic rifles,
and raw explosives floating around today, I can assure
you it won't be pretty. Why even in the US today the
level of lawlessness and disrespect for authority is
such that no one woulld dare to go to sleep without
locking all their doors and windows.... WHERE DO
YOU think it's coming from... this "universal
disrespect for authority" and "brazen daring to
take to violence"... it's coming from people
like YOU dipshit... sitting there heckling a miracle
of salvation for the world!
George Bush, one of the most heroic presidents we've
ever had says he's going to declare "war on tyranny"
in the world.... DON'T YOU THINK he needs
a scientific proof of God on HIS SIDE, and on
OUR SIDE. What n' hell is wrong with you?
You're unpatriotic... you're a pedantic overfed cancer
growing on America fer chrissakes!
Stop attacking Hammond, dummy up, get with the
program! This scientific discovery is for REAL AND
your ***** is going to be grass if you keep opposing it...
the handwriting on the wall is crystal clear....
"enie meanie upharsin" all over again.
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06 Mar 2005 11:47:13 AM |
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Reply to article by: "George Hammond" <nowhere1@nospam.net>
Date written: Sun, 06 Mar 2005 12:53:11 GMT
MsgID:<X2DWd.3175$CW2.126@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>
The only way PHYSICS
can prove something "exists" is for an "observer"
(i.e. a human being) to "observe" it.
How do you explain the existence of illusions, delusions, and inaccurate
observation? Do illusional worlds exist now too, just because they've been
"observed"? Your logical thinking abilities suck!
Really... there are 1.3 billion Christians plus 4 billion other
adherents to organized religion worldwide.... ALL of whom
subscribe to this opinion. Therefore, de facto, the "world"
agrees with Hammond.
So this is the "one thousand Frenchmen can't be wrong" argument? So everybody
has an opinion like yours, therefore your opinion must be a fact? No evidence or
proof needed, eh? What a crock of *****! Opinions without a shred of evidence is
pure, unadulterated nonsense!
In fact... Hammond's theory of
the creation of the world is ACCURATELY DESCRIBED
IN GENESIS... which the Western world subscribes to.
The Western world also subscribes to war mongering, the highest crime rates in
the world, oppression of minorities,
There is no "Big Bang" in the book of Genesis... the
world was created at the SAME TIME Man was created
in Genesis.. along with billion year old fossils and all.
What the Hell is wrong with your God that He would deceive His creation into
making the Earth earth look like it were actually actually were 4.5 billion
years old? If that were true then Satan did a better job at his re-creation then
God did at his creation. Whereas Satan left no stone unturned in his effort to
hide the evidence of a creation, the best that God could do was dedicate two
chapters to it in an ancient textbook filled with contradictions and
inaccuracies. Satan must be not only more intelligent than God, he must also be
more powerful.
why don't you get some degrees in Physics like I have?
You don't need a degree in Physics to have common logical sense, so what's
stopping you from getting some common logical sense? And you aren't discussing
Physics, you are discussing Cosmology -- which is a subset of Astrophysics --
both areas of expertise that are outside of your simple little Physics degree.
And considering your "reasoning ablities", you are lying when you tell us you
have a Physics degree...and you know where you are going to go when you die, for
lying, right?
you don't take into account the sentience of other species.
[Hammond]
"Other species" DON'T COUNT..... because they don't see
the "world as we know it". They see "different worlds"....
i.e.... "different realities".
Different realities in this context means different perspectives of the
same world, not different worlds.
Which perspective is the true perspective of the actual world? It certainly
couldn't be humans because they keep on changing their perspective throughout
history. Humans can't make up their mind which perspective they want to have.
Once upon a time, the Earth was flat and in the exact center of the Universe,
but that worldwide agreed to "observation" was flawed and had to be completely
rejected and updated with another worldwide agreed to "observation". So whose to
say that our current "observations" won't have to be completely rejected again
in the next hundred years or less?
[Hammond]
THAT'S CORRECT. However, you underestimate the word
"perspective"... a physics operational meaning of the word
translates into "different realities" in any formal scientific
analysis.
Wrong again. You are talking about the Psychological implication of the word
perspective, not the Physics one.
The world's existence is evidently prior to all the above.
[Hammond]
NOT when you actually formally define the operational
meaning of the world "existence".
You are making up things again. There is no such thing as the "operational
meaning" of the word existence in Physics, although Philosophers (not a branch
of Physics) are still hotly debating the topic.
[Hammond]
When 4 billion 3rd world starving people find out that
a scientific proof of God has been discovered,
When Hammond can put his money where his mouth is and demonstrate actual
PHYSICAL evidence that a certain God has been discovered, then we might be able
to start believing that Hammond isn't talking out of his ***** as he normally does
all thoughout his postings.
Why even in the US today the
level of lawlessness and disrespect for authority is
such that no one woulld dare to go to sleep without
locking all their doors and windows.... WHERE DO
YOU think it's coming from... this "universal
disrespect for authority" and "brazen daring to
take to violence"... it's coming from people
like YOU dipshit... sitting there heckling a miracle
of salvation for the world!
If I found out today that a God really does exist outside of your sick
imagination, I wouldn't change a thing in my life because I already am a moral,
ethical person. On the other hand, if someone were to convince you that your God
didn't exist, you would revert to barbarism and lawlessness and child molesting
and homosexuality because there is nothing to restrain you from doing any of
those things except for your make belief that a God exists. So you see, unlike
you, I don't need to make believe a God of retribution exists in order to be a
moral person.
George Bush, one of the most heroic presidents we've
ever had says he's going to declare "war on tyranny"
in the world.
So when is he going to get Osama bin Laden? With all that wonderful Intelligence
at his disposal (the same Intelligence that claimed Russia would never fall or
that Saddam had WMD), why doesn't Bush make good on his promise right after 911,
that he would bring Osama to justice for the greatest crime ever committed?
... DON'T YOU THINK he needs
a scientific proof of God on HIS SIDE, and on
OUR SIDE.
Bush said that if he could do it all over again, he wouldn't change a
thing...meaning if he could make the same mistakes over again, he would gladly
comply...not too much unlike yourself!
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
Haha! Everyone, please visit this site! It is hilarirous! According to Hammand's
unmentioned "scientific proof", God is the difference between the potential
height of humans and their actual height. Of course, Hammond didn't put too much
thought into his "theory" because the implications of his theory are not good...
1) God used to be greater in the past than He is today, since people, on the
average, used to be much shorter (compared to their potential) than they are
today.
2) God will someday soon go extinct, since humans will someday soon reach their
full potential height due to advances in nutrition, medicine, and gene
therapy.
Then Hammon goes on to explain, without a shred of evidence or even so much as
one mechanically repeatable experiment -- as any good scientist is a requirement
for proof that your "theory" is not imaginary -- that psychology causes
relativition of time and space because the "equations" for personality and the
space-time metric look the same. Haha! Unfortunately for Hammand, his "science"
is 20 years old and inaccurate. For example...
1) The matrix equation for Einsteins space-time metric is not even close to what
Hammand posted it as being
2) The Einstein matrix is four-dimensional, not three-dimensinal like Hammond's
personality matrix, so there is no equivalence relation there anymore like he
claims as "proof" for his theories
3) The Einstein matrix is no longer considered valid as scientifically derived
evidence now points to a Universe of multiple dimensions -- anywhere from 7
to twelve dimensions! That means the space-time matrix would have to be
expanded from a 3x3 to a 12x12 matrix in which many of the components of that
matrix are still unknown today.
Psychology teaches us that fantasies reveal alot about a person's personality so
I guess that would mean, in Hammond's case of his "personality theory", that
Hammond is a extroverted, neurotic psychotic and his personality is projected
onto his so-called scientific theories.
The Sage
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most daring liars; the men they detest the most violently are
those who try to tell them the truth" -- H. L. Mencken
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07 Mar 2005 05:04:42 AM |
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"The_Sage" <The_Sage@msn.com> wrote in
message news:b8dm21588rrn8tvv0pmhoj9003b6grvbsh@4ax.com...
Reply to article by: "George Hammond" <nowhere1@nospam.net>
Date written: Sun, 06 Mar 2005 12:53:11 GMT
MsgID:<X2DWd.3175$CW2.126@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>
The only way PHYSICS
can prove something "exists" is for an "observer"
(i.e. a human being) to "observe" it.
How do you explain the existence of illusions, delusions, and inaccurate
observation? Do illusional worlds exist now too, just because they've been
"observed"?
[Hammond]
OF COURSE THEY DO. What the hell do you think makes
a drunk, an addict or a mental case DANGEROUS for christ's
sake? They are seeing a "false version" of reality... but it certainly
is REAL to them!
OK... turns out the ENTIRE HUMAN RACE is seeing a
"false version of reality" (a "curved version" to be precise)
and this is not due to a VICE... it's due to world starvation!
(which causes the well known "Secular Trend" in human growth)
And this causes the WORLD'S NUMBER ONE DANGEROUS
CONDITION.... so dangerous, it has been the central study
of world leadership for 5,000 years and is called "GOD"..
and there is a "public therapy center" on ever street corner in
the world known as a "CHURCH" which is equipped to deal with
the social dangers of this phenomenon.
WAKE UP.... for chrissakes!
<snip endless reams of "common coffee shop jive" by this
amateur poster>
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07 Mar 2005 05:33:52 PM |
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Reply to article by: "George Hammond" <nowhere1@nospam.net>
Date written: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 11:04:42 GMT
MsgID:<ezWWd.4411$CW2.969@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>
The only way PHYSICS
can prove something "exists" is for an "observer"
(i.e. a human being) to "observe" it.
How do you explain the existence of illusions, delusions, and inaccurate
observation? Do illusional worlds exist now too, just because they've been
"observed"?
[Hammond]
OF COURSE THEY DO.
Wrong! So totally and absolutely and completely wrong! By definition, illusions
and delusions and inaccurate observations do not describe anything that exists.
Illusions and delusions and inaccurate observations do not exist outside
people's imagination that they exist. You failed to explain the existence of
illusions, delusions, and inaccurate observations and that is what your "theory"
leads us to believe are "real", when they are not real. Where'd you get your
Physics degree from, a Cracker Jack box?
The Sage
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most daring liars; the men they detest the most violently are
those who try to tell them the truth" -- H. L. Mencken
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06 Mar 2005 04:02:12 PM |
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If I found out today that a God really
does exist outside of your sick
imagination, I wouldn't change a thing in
my life because I already am a moral,
ethical person.
That's it!
That's the statement.
The dimwitted will steal from the 7-11
unless they believe there's somebody
standing over them with a stick.
Nietzsche says that there are many
reasons not to steal:
-- you wouldn't like it if someone stole from
you
-- you're afraid of getting caught
-- You feel compassion for the shop owner
-- You wouldn't enjoy it as much as if
you earned it
-- You don't want to live in a community
where crimes occur
-- god ordered you not to
-- someone else ordered you not to
But he says the only GOOD reason is
"because I'm not a thief". All the other
reasons are contingent, and place the
source of morality outside yourself.
=[ d
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06 Mar 2005 08:57:01 AM |
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George Hammond wrote:
[Hammond]
When 4 billion 3rd world starving people find out that
a scientific proof of God has been discovered, and
overpriviliged loudmouth elitist dipshits like you are
standing in the way of a miracle of relief from tyranny
and oppression, it won't be an "idle" threat... let me assure
you. With the number of handguns, automatic rifles,
and raw explosives floating around today, I can assure
you it won't be pretty. Why even in the US today the
level of lawlessness and disrespect for authority is
such that no one woulld dare to go to sleep without
locking all their doors and windows.... WHERE DO
YOU think it's coming from... this "universal
disrespect for authority" and "brazen daring to
take to violence"... it's coming from people
like YOU dipshit... sitting there heckling a miracle
of salvation for the world!
George Bush, one of the most heroic presidents we've
ever had says he's going to declare "war on tyranny"
in the world.... DON'T YOU THINK he needs
a scientific proof of God on HIS SIDE, and on
OUR SIDE. What n' hell is wrong with you?
You're unpatriotic... you're a pedantic overfed cancer
growing on America fer chrissakes!
Stop attacking Hammond, dummy up, get with the
program! This scientific discovery is for REAL AND
your ***** is going to be grass if you keep opposing it...
the handwriting on the wall is crystal clear....
"enie meanie upharsin" all over again.
George,
What is the connection between fighting terrorists and world hunger and
a proof for the existence of God?
Gary Eickmeier
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07 Mar 2005 04:28:13 AM |
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"Gary Eickmeier" <geickmei@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1TEWd.153943$JF2.126077@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
George Hammond wrote:
[Hammond]
When 4 billion 3rd world starving people find out that
a scientific proof of God has been discovered, and
overpriviliged loudmouth elitist dipshits like you are
standing in the way of a miracle of relief from tyranny
and oppression, it won't be an "idle" threat... let me assure
you. With the number of handguns, automatic rifles,
and raw explosives floating around today, I can assure
you it won't be pretty. Why even in the US today the
level of lawlessness and disrespect for authority is
such that no one woulld dare to go to sleep without
locking all their doors and windows.... WHERE DO
YOU think it's coming from... this "universal
disrespect for authority" and "brazen daring to
take to violence"... it's coming from people
like YOU dipshit... sitting there heckling a miracle
of salvation for the world!
George Bush, one of the most heroic presidents we've
ever had says he's going to declare "war on tyranny"
in the world.... DON'T YOU THINK he needs
a scientific proof of God on HIS SIDE, and on
OUR SIDE. What n' hell is wrong with you?
You're unpatriotic... you're a pedantic overfed cancer
growing on America fer chrissakes!
Stop attacking Hammond, dummy up, get with the
program! This scientific discovery is for REAL AND
your ***** is going to be grass if you keep opposing it...
the handwriting on the wall is crystal clear....
"enie meanie upharsin" all over again.
George,
What is the connection between fighting terrorists and world hunger and
a proof for the existence of God?
Gary Eickmeier
[Hammond]
Is that a "gratuitious question".. whataru feeding me a "freebie"..?
George Bush has already said it, and anounced it as official
US policy... to "end tyranny in the world". Tyranny is "godless"
and opposed to every principle of Religion. Therefore, a
"scientific proof of God" which EMPOWERS RELIGION
is the main line of defense, the main rallying point, of oppressed
people globally. The US must be viewed globally as the
"defenders of the faith"... and CERTAINLY for "American Science"
(e.g. HAMMOND) to discover the world's first scientific proof of God
is the biggest PR event on the world stage since Calvary!
The discovery of the world's first scientific proof of God now
stands behind the US flag wherever it goes, what ever beach head
it lands on... it is a universal message to all tyrants, all oppressors,
all enemies of Democracy and freedom and justice... that the
United States "knows what it is doing" and is the true and
unquestioned champion of God, mercy, charity and human rights!
This sends a clear message of hope and mobilization not only
to the people of Iraq... but to the entire 3rd World about the
fact that the tide has finally turned against centuries of oppressive
"war lord rule" of the down trodden poor of the world.... and about
the true motives of the US. Lets roll!
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| User: "Gary Eickmeier" |
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07 Mar 2005 10:20:48 AM |
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George Hammond wrote:
"Gary Eickmeier" <geickmei@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1TEWd.153943$JF2.126077@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
George Hammond wrote:
[Hammond]
When 4 billion 3rd world starving people find out that
a scientific proof of God has been discovered, and
overpriviliged loudmouth elitist dipshits like you are
standing in the way of a miracle of relief from tyranny
and oppression, it won't be an "idle" threat... let me assure
you. With the number of handguns, automatic rifles,
and raw explosives floating around today, I can assure
you it won't be pretty. Why even in the US today the
level of lawlessness and disrespect for authority is
such that no one woulld dare to go to sleep without
locking all their doors and windows.... WHERE DO
YOU think it's coming from... this "universal
disrespect for authority" and "brazen daring to
take to violence"... it's coming from people
like YOU dipshit... sitting there heckling a miracle
of salvation for the world!
George Bush, one of the most heroic presidents we've
ever had says he's going to declare "war on tyranny"
in the world.... DON'T YOU THINK he needs
a scientific proof of God on HIS SIDE, and on
OUR SIDE. What n' hell is wrong with you?
You're unpatriotic... you're a pedantic overfed cancer
growing on America fer chrissakes!
Stop attacking Hammond, dummy up, get with the
program! This scientific discovery is for REAL AND
your ***** is going to be grass if you keep opposing it...
the handwriting on the wall is crystal clear....
"enie meanie upharsin" all over again.
George,
What is the connection between fighting terrorists and world hunger and
a proof for the existence of God?
Gary Eickmeier
[Hammond]
Is that a "gratuitious question".. whataru feeding me a "freebie"..?
George Bush has already said it, and anounced it as official
US policy... to "end tyranny in the world". Tyranny is "godless"
and opposed to every principle of Religion. Therefore, a
"scientific proof of God" which EMPOWERS RELIGION
is the main line of defense, the main rallying point, of oppressed
people globally. The US must be viewed globally as the
"defenders of the faith"... and CERTAINLY for "American Science"
(e.g. HAMMOND) to discover the world's first scientific proof of God
is the biggest PR event on the world stage since Calvary!
The discovery of the world's first scientific proof of God now
stands behind the US flag wherever it goes, what ever beach head
it lands on... it is a universal message to all tyrants, all oppressors,
all enemies of Democracy and freedom and justice... that the
United States "knows what it is doing" and is the true and
unquestioned champion of God, mercy, charity and human rights!
This sends a clear message of hope and mobilization not only
to the people of Iraq... but to the entire 3rd World about the
fact that the tide has finally turned against centuries of oppressive
"war lord rule" of the down trodden poor of the world.... and about
the true motives of the US. Lets roll!
So, they didn't believe in God before, or we're going to change their
religion, or what? I am under the impression that the problems we are
having with Muslim extremism is BECAUSE of religious zealotry.
Are you thinking that no one but us believes in God?
Gary Eickmeier
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07 Mar 2005 03:17:22 PM |
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"Gary Eickmeier" <geickmei@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ab%Wd.130951$qB6.100595@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
George Hammond wrote:
"Gary Eickmeier" <geickmei@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1TEWd.153943$JF2.126077@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
George Hammond wrote:
[Hammond]
When 4 billion 3rd world starving people find out that
a scientific proof of God has been discovered, and
overpriviliged loudmouth elitist dipshits like you are
standing in the way of a miracle of relief from tyranny
and oppression, it won't be an "idle" threat... let me assure
you. With the number of handguns, automatic rifles,
and raw explosives floating around today, I can assure
you it won't be pretty. Why even in the US today the
level of lawlessness and disrespect for authority is
such that no one woulld dare to go to sleep without
locking all their doors and windows.... WHERE DO
YOU think it's coming from... this "universal
disrespect for authority" and "brazen daring to
take to violence"... it's coming from people
like YOU dipshit... sitting there heckling a miracle
of salvation for the world!
George Bush, one of the most heroic presidents we've
ever had says he's going to declare "war on tyranny"
in the world.... DON'T YOU THINK he needs
a scientific proof of God on HIS SIDE, and on
OUR SIDE. What n' hell is wrong with you?
You're unpatriotic... you're a pedantic overfed cancer
growing on America fer chrissakes!
Stop attacking Hammond, dummy up, get with the
program! This scientific discovery is for REAL AND
your ***** is going to be grass if you keep opposing it...
the handwriting on the wall is crystal clear....
"enie meanie upharsin" all over again.
George,
What is the connection between fighting terrorists and world hunger and
a proof for the existence of God?
Gary Eickmeier
[Hammond]
Is that a "gratuitious question".. whataru feeding me a "freebie"..?
George Bush has already said it, and anounced it as official
US policy... to "end tyranny in the world". Tyranny is "godless"
and opposed to every principle of Religion. Therefore, a
"scientific proof of God" which EMPOWERS RELIGION
is the main line of defense, the main rallying point, of oppressed
people globally. The US must be viewed globally as the
"defenders of the faith"... and CERTAINLY for "American Science"
(e.g. HAMMOND) to discover the world's first scientific proof of God
is the biggest PR event on the world stage since Calvary!
The discovery of the world's first scientific proof of God now
stands behind the US flag wherever it goes, what ever beach head
it lands on... it is a universal message to all tyrants, all oppressors,
all enemies of Democracy and freedom and justice... that the
United States "knows what it is doing" and is the true and
unquestioned champion of God, mercy, charity and human rights!
This sends a clear message of hope and mobilization not only
to the people of Iraq... but to the entire 3rd World about the
fact that the tide has finally turned against centuries of oppressive
"war lord rule" of the down trodden poor of the world.... and about
the true motives of the US. Lets roll!
So, they didn't believe in God before, or we're going to change their
religion, or what? I am under the impression that the problems we are
having with Muslim extremism is BECAUSE of religious zealotry.
[Hammond]
Oh comon.. you're pulling my leg. Religion is weak because
nobody KNOWS if there is a God or not... much less what it is.
It has been KNOWN FOR CENTURIES what the impact of
the discovery of a scientific proof of God would be.... it
turns Religion from "mere faith" into a "proven fact", and
therefore increases the influence and power of Religion by
a hundred fold... or more! It is the biggest force against
"Evil" known to Man... and now its power has been increased
a hundredfold by de facto UNIFYING the world's 5 major
faiths and founding Religion on the axiomatic laws of Physics.
Are you thinking that no one but us believes in God?
[Hammond]
There's plenty of "faith" around.... but we're the only ones
who have PROOF. The modern world knows the difference.
Gary Eickmeier
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| User: "Gary Eickmeier" |
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07 Mar 2005 06:13:54 PM |
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George Hammond wrote:
[Hammond]
Oh comon.. you're pulling my leg. Religion is weak because
nobody KNOWS if there is a God or not... much less what it is.
It has been KNOWN FOR CENTURIES what the impact of
the discovery of a scientific proof of God would be.... it
turns Religion from "mere faith" into a "proven fact", and
therefore increases the influence and power of Religion by
a hundred fold... or more! It is the biggest force against
"Evil" known to Man... and now its power has been increased
a hundredfold by de facto UNIFYING the world's 5 major
faiths and founding Religion on the axiomatic laws of Physics.
Are you thinking that no one but us believes in God?
[Hammond]
There's plenty of "faith" around.... but we're the only ones
who have PROOF. The modern world knows the difference.
But if someone believes, he doesn't need proof! And if no one knows what
God is, then what are you trying to prove? Are you denying, then
inventing your own god? The god that you are describing is certainly not
the God of the world's religions. So what have you proven?
Gary Eickmeier
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| User: "xeno" |
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| Title: The Infinite Loop of George Hammond |
08 Mar 2005 07:45:45 AM |
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On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, George Hammond pontificated:
Oh comon.. you're pulling my leg. Religion is weak because nobody KNOWS
if there is a God or not... much less what it is. It has been KNOWN FOR
CENTURIES what the impact of the discovery of a scientific proof of God
would be....
How so when even you admit that "nobody KNOWS ... what it is"?
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| User: "xeno" |
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06 Mar 2005 11:29:45 AM |
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On Sun, 6 Mar 2005, George Hammond wrote:
[Hammond]
No I'm referring to the operational meaning of
the world "existence". The only way PHYSICS
can prove something "exists" is for an "observer"
(i.e. a human being) to "observe" it.
& therefore what? If it's *observable* that light has a speed, & light
from distant objects takes time to reach here, it's evident that things
have existed more than 100,000 years or 6000 years, (which ever arbitrary
airy fairy date you've decided, with the aid of myths, to claim when it
all began).
If you think the Inquisition was something... keep it up and
see what it looks like this time!
The last refuge of the incompetent is to make idle threats.
[Hammond]
When 4 billion 3rd world starving people find out that
a scientific proof of God has been discovered ...
If God isn't feeding them now, why would he just because some space cadet
thinks an equation proves his existence?
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| User: "George Hammond" |
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| Title: Re: GOD=G_uv REPLY TO DEAN |
07 Mar 2005 04:51:14 AM |
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"xeno" <xeno@transbay.net> wrote in message
news:20050306085017.W27616@synergy.transbay.net...
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005, George Hammond wrote:
[Hammond]
No I'm referring to the operational meaning of
the world "existence". The only way PHYSICS
can prove something "exists" is for an "observer"
(i.e. a human being) to "observe" it.
& therefore what? If it's *observable* that light has a speed, & light
from distant objects takes time to reach here, it's evident that things
have existed more than 100,000 years or 6000 years, (which ever arbitrary
airy fairy date you've decided, with the aid of myths, to claim when it
all began).
[Hammond]
NO.... you're argument simply highlights your basic
STUPIDITY.
"time itself" including "passed time", "past history"... NONE
OF THESE THINGS have any "existence" without the
existence of "human beings":
ABOUT "PAST" HISTORY
"Past history" cannot "now exist" until and unless
"humans exist". In fact the word "existence"
itself is only defined with respect to a "human
observer". The existence of a human observer
is what makes things "exist".
Therefore, just because we (now.. after
humans have come into existence) recieve a
light signal which is a billion years old... does
NOT mean that the source "existed" prior ot Man
who is only 40,000 years old. Obviously
it's "billion year past" only came into "existence"
when the humans came into existence.
This statement is SO OBVIOUS that people including
scientists simply "take it for granted" and assume that
it has no "practical significance. However, it DOES
have a practical significance, since it in fact is at the
root cause explanation of the phenomena we call "God".
Until you are able to understand this... you are what
is called a "lay person"... which put into common
language means you are IGNORANT... ignorant of
what God is.
And please do not echolliatingly repeat your ignorant
arguments over and over agin on this thread... we know
what your problem is... and Science has finally found the
scientific proof that will shut you and the other ignorant
people up soon enough.
So long pedant... we've been listening to strutting
overprivileged loudmouths like you spewing your
mindless stupidy for centuries. Now the scientific proof of
God has turned the tables and you're about to be put back in
uniform and back into the ranks of the semiskilled where
you belong.
<snip rest of responder's ad hominem trash>
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| User: "Gary Eickmeier" |
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| Title: Re: GOD=G_uv REPLY TO DEAN |
07 Mar 2005 10:23:47 AM |
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George Hammond wrote:
This statement is SO OBVIOUS that people including
scientists simply "take it for granted" and assume that
it has no "practical significance. However, it DOES
have a practical significance, since it in fact is at the
root cause explanation of the phenomena we call "God".
Until you are able to understand this... you are what
is called a "lay person"... which put into common
language means you are IGNORANT... ignorant of
what God is.
What is your definition of God, George?
Gary Eickmeier
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