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Topic: Science > Physics
User: ""
Date: 05 Apr 2005 10:24:31 PM
Object: Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrect analyses
Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrect
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Acceleration is a derivative of a derivative. Velocity is, a rate of
distance in time. Acceleration then is, rate of change in the rate of
distance in time. The acceleration of gravity is, the distance change
as a function of time. cm/sec^2.
If an object goes from 0 to 50 ft per second in 5 seconds, it's
acceleration is 50 ft per second / 5 seconds. This simplifies to
50ft/5sec. Or 10ft/sec is the rate per sec of the change of velocity .
This rate gives the final velocity after a specific amount of time...
4 seconds... 40 ft/s....
If the final velocity is 50 ft/s after 5 sec, the average velocity in
this time period for uniform acceleration is 1/2 final velocity.
50/2 = 25 ft/s average velocity. Average velocity x time equals
distance. 25 ft/s x 5 sec = 125 ft, final distance at the end of 5
sec.
What is the rate of acceleration? The rate of the velocity change is 10
ft/s. The average of the velocity change within the
average second is however 1/2 x 10 ft/s or 5 ft/sec^2 . This is the
average rate of the change, of the rate of distance in time,
which gives, the function of time for the distance.
Acceleration of 5 ft/s^2 for 5 seconds = total distance 125 ft, final
velocity 50 ft/s, average velocity 25 ft/s
Gravitaional acceleration 9.8 meters/sec^2
approx. 10 meters / sec^2.
rate of change in velocity(secs)= 20 m/s under gravitational
acceleration
time total distance final velocity average velocity
1sec 10m --- 10 m/s
2 40 40 20
3 90 60 30
4 160 80 40
5 250 100 50
6 360 120 60
7 490 140 70
At the end of 4 secs, for example the final velocity is 80 m/s. It has
traveled 160 m . If the acceleration stopped at this point it
will retain the velocity 80 m/s for the next second traveling 80 m .
This is 10 meters short of the distance it would have traveled under
acceleration or 250 m in 5 seconds. If an object were traveling at 80
m/s and increased it's velocity within one second to travel within that
second 90 m or 10 m greater distance, it would have to accelerate at
uniform rate within that second to 100 m/s in order to attain the
average velocity within that second to travel the extra distance of 10
meters. 80 + 100 / 2 = 90 m/s average velocity for one second = 90 m .
It increases it's velocity by 20 m/s. It accelerates 10 m/s^2.
An object that collides with an identical object in an elastic
collision and exchanges all of it's momentum will decelerate with an
average velocity over the time of transfer, 1/2 it's intital velocity ,
while the other object accelerates with an average velocity during the
time of transfer which is 1/2 it's final velocity.
Kent Deatherage
http://home.earthlink.net/~kdthrge
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User: "JM Albuquerque"

Title: Re: Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrect analyses 06 Apr 2005 08:26:50 AM
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Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrect
analyses

(snip)

Gravitaional acceleration 9.8 meters/sec^2
approx. 10 meters / sec^2.
rate of change in velocity(secs)= 20 m/s under gravitational
acceleration

Wrong.
The rate of change in velocity(secs)= 10 m/s under
gravitational acceleration (9.8 m/s to be precise).

time total distance final velocity average velocity
1sec 10m --- 10 m/s
2 40 40 20
3 90 60 30
4 160 80 40
5 250 100 50
6 360 120 60
7 490 140 70

At the end of 4 secs, for example the final velocity is 80 m/s. It has
traveled 160 m .

Wrong.
At the end of 4 secs the final velocity is 40 m/s and it has
travelled 80 m .
The equations are:
s = 1/2 g t^2 (displacement)
v = g t (velocity)
a = g (acceleration)
Being:
t - time in seconds
g = 10 m/s^2 (gravity acceleration)
.

User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrectanalyses 06 Apr 2005 11:27:31 AM
wrote:


Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrect
analyses

[snip crap]
WGS84,
g =
(978.032677)[1+(0.00193185139)sin^2(lat)]/sqrt[1-(0.00669437999)sin^2(lat)]
cm/sec^2
lat = latitude
g = gravitational acceleration at sea level
Confirmed in real time by GPS satellite orbits vs. the WGX84
360-degree polynomial fit of the geoid. One wonders if filling of
China's Three Gorges dam caused a refit of its block, ditto the two
Sumatra Richter 9 earthquakes in their blocks.
Idiot.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
.

User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrectanalyses 05 Apr 2005 10:54:00 PM
wrote:

Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrect
analyses

Hey Kent, thanks for registering at crank dot net.
http://www.google.com/search?q=Fundamental+Proof+Static+Nuclear+Structure+site%3Awww.crank.net
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrect analyses 06 Apr 2005 12:30:44 AM
Sam Wormley wrote:

kdthrge@yahoo.com wrote:

Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrect
analyses




Hey Kent, thanks for registering at crank dot net.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Fundamental+Proof+Static+Nuclear+Structure+site%3Awww.crank.net
Yeah Sam. What you find on Google has to be right!
Slimeball...
.
User: "GR_GR"

Title: Re: Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrectanalyses 06 Apr 2005 12:42:18 AM
wrote:

Sam Wormley wrote:

kdthrge@yahoo.com wrote:

Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrect
analyses




Hey Kent, thanks for registering at crank dot net.


http://www.google.com/search?q=Fundamental+Proof+Static+Nuclear+Structure+site%3Awww.crank.net

Yeah Sam. What you find on Google has to be right!
Slimeball...

It is correct that you are a crack pot, and you are on www.crank.net.
.



User: "GR_GR"

Title: Re: Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrectanalyses 06 Apr 2005 12:25:26 AM
wrote:

Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrect
analyses

According to you. Perhaps the problem lies in your ability to use
google... or... more likely, your ability to do physics?

Acceleration is a derivative of a derivative. Velocity is, a rate of
distance in time.

Silly wabbit.... velocity is a rate in its own right:
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Velocity.html

Acceleration then is, rate of change in the rate of
distance in time. The acceleration of gravity is, the distance change
as a function of time. cm/sec^2.

Silly wabbit, "acceleration of gravity" is not proper nomenclature.

If an object goes from 0 to 50 ft per second in 5 seconds, it's
acceleration is 50 ft per second / 5 seconds.

Silly wabbit, its *average* acceleration is 10 feet/second^2. Remember
you prior spew about derivatives?
I can define a curve that has an average acceleration over a certain
time interval of 10 feet/second^2, but at certain times in that interval
has negative acceleration, or very high acceleration.
And while we are at it, let us refrain if possible from using such
barbaric units as feet.

This simplifies to
50ft/5sec. Or 10ft/sec is the rate per sec of the change of velocity .

Silly wabbit... see above. Also, please learn to check your units, as
your 10 feet/second is a velocity.

This rate gives the final velocity after a specific amount of time...
4 seconds... 40 ft/s....

Not at all, silly wabbit. As I indicated above, after 4 seconds I can
draw a curve that has, at time = 4 seconds, has an instantaneous
acceleration of minus 200 feet/second^2.
Lets end this part of the discussion until you learn the basics of
velocity and acceleration, and perhaps some calculus.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrect analyses 05 Apr 2005 10:53:52 PM
wrote:

Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrect
analyses

I doubt that.
<snip>
--
Jim Pennino
Remove .spam.sux to reply.
.

User: "John C. Polasek"

Title: Re: Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrect analyses 06 Apr 2005 09:54:15 AM
On 5 Apr 2005 20:24:31 -0700,
wrote:

Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrect
analyses

Acceleration is a derivative of a derivative. Velocity is, a rate of
distance in time. Acceleration then is, rate of change in the rate of
distance in time. The acceleration of gravity is, the distance change
as a function of time. cm/sec^2.

If an object goes from 0 to 50 ft per second in 5 seconds, it's
acceleration is 50 ft per second / 5 seconds. This simplifies to
50ft/5sec. Or 10ft/sec is the rate per sec of the change of velocity .
This rate gives the final velocity after a specific amount of time...
4 seconds... 40 ft/s....
If the final velocity is 50 ft/s after 5 sec, the average velocity in
this time period for uniform acceleration is 1/2 final velocity.
50/2 = 25 ft/s average velocity. Average velocity x time equals
distance. 25 ft/s x 5 sec = 125 ft, final distance at the end of 5
sec.
What is the rate of acceleration? The rate of the velocity change is 10
ft/s. The average of the velocity change within the
average second is however 1/2 x 10 ft/s or 5 ft/sec^2 . This is the
average rate of the change, of the rate of distance in time,
which gives, the function of time for the distance.
Acceleration of 5 ft/s^2 for 5 seconds = total distance 125 ft, final
velocity 50 ft/s, average velocity 25 ft/s

Gravitaional acceleration 9.8 meters/sec^2
approx. 10 meters / sec^2.
rate of change in velocity(secs)= 20 m/s under gravitational
acceleration
time total distance final velocity average velocity
1sec 10m --- 10 m/s
2 40 40 20
3 90 60 30
4 160 80 40
5 250 100 50
6 360 120 60
7 490 140 70

At the end of 4 secs, for example the final velocity is 80 m/s. It has
traveled 160 m . If the acceleration stopped at this point it
will retain the velocity 80 m/s for the next second traveling 80 m .
This is 10 meters short of the distance it would have traveled under
acceleration or 250 m in 5 seconds. If an object were traveling at 80
m/s and increased it's velocity within one second to travel within that
second 90 m or 10 m greater distance, it would have to accelerate at
uniform rate within that second to 100 m/s in order to attain the
average velocity within that second to travel the extra distance of 10
meters. 80 + 100 / 2 = 90 m/s average velocity for one second = 90 m .
It increases it's velocity by 20 m/s. It accelerates 10 m/s^2.

An object that collides with an identical object in an elastic
collision and exchanges all of it's momentum will decelerate with an
average velocity over the time of transfer, 1/2 it's intital velocity ,
while the other object accelerates with an average velocity during the
time of transfer which is 1/2 it's final velocity.

Kent Deatherage
http://home.earthlink.net/~kdthrge

You failed to point out what it was you found wrong with the
equations. But I did get a hint from a later note by that fat-head
GRGR in which he talks of average acceleration, quite unaware that
YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH AVERAGE ACCELERATION AND DISTANCE.
You can only speak of average VELOCITY in computing distance. Given
X = .5At^2
Suppose you make a schedule whose average acceleration is A, but with
A = 0 for the first half and double value for the 2nd half, you will
get X as only half the true value. It comes from the double integral.
So maybe your trouble is in trying to match up average acceleration.
John Polasek
.
User: "GR_GR"

Title: Re: Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrectanalyses 06 Apr 2005 12:21:17 PM
John C. Polasek wrote:

On 5 Apr 2005 20:24:31 -0700,

wrote:


Gravitational Acceleration: Google search yields only incorrect
analyses

<>

You failed to point out what it was you found wrong with the
equations. But I did get a hint from a later note by that fat-head
GRGR in which he talks of average acceleration, quite unaware that
YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH AVERAGE ACCELERATION AND DISTANCE.

Wow, you sure are dumb even for a crack pot. LOL!
Oh, and that is Mr. GR_GR to you, Mr. Crack Pot.
.



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