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"Robert11" |
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09 Aug 2006 09:38:18 AM |
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Guitar & Speaker Freq. Response Question |
Hello:
Not sure what groupo toreally post this to, but it seems like everyone here
knows about most everything, so thought I'd try here first.
For any of you guitar players:
Son has a fancy Fender electric guitar, a very good ampl., and a massive,
heavy speaker. that is very popular with guitarists.
Looked at the speaker specs, and was very surprised to see that the upper
freq. cutoff was only about 4.5 KC. No tweeter, just the one speaker.
Looked at other combinations, and apparently the one speaker is the way they
all go.
Couldn't find any with a tweeter.
I would have thought that many of the guitar's harmonics go way past 4.5 KC.
Am I wrong about this ?
How come no tweeters in the speakers, commonly, for electric guitars ?
What the higher end of a electric guitars freq. response ?
How about for acoustic guitars ?
Thanks,
B.
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| User: "Zod, General" |
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| Title: Re: Guitar & Speaker Freq. Response Question |
09 Aug 2006 01:21:21 PM |
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"Robert11" <rgsros@notme.com> wrote in message
news:PL6dnYAlNvjEbkTZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
Hello:
Not sure what groupo toreally post this to, but it seems like everyone
here knows about most everything, so thought I'd try here first.
For any of you guitar players:
Son has a fancy Fender electric guitar, a very good ampl., and a massive,
heavy speaker. that is very popular with guitarists.
Looked at the speaker specs, and was very surprised to see that the upper
freq. cutoff was only about 4.5 KC. No tweeter, just the one speaker.
he may have a bass amp/speaker, not a guitar amp/speaker.
That may also be only at full power without clipping (the power supply gets
overloaded at low freq)
Should be around 12Khz.
Just one speaker is Fine
There is a lower cutoff also
Google for it, and find out for sure.
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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| Title: Re: Guitar & Speaker Freq. Response Question |
09 Aug 2006 10:22:35 AM |
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"Robert11" <rgsros@notme.com> wrote in message
news:PL6dnYAlNvjEbkTZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
| Hello:
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| Not sure what groupo toreally post this to, but it seems like everyone
here
| knows about most everything, so thought I'd try here first.
|
| For any of you guitar players:
|
| Son has a fancy Fender electric guitar, a very good ampl., and a massive,
| heavy speaker. that is very popular with guitarists.
|
| Looked at the speaker specs, and was very surprised to see that the upper
| freq. cutoff was only about 4.5 KC. No tweeter, just the one speaker.
|
| Looked at other combinations, and apparently the one speaker is the way
they
| all go.
| Couldn't find any with a tweeter.
|
| I would have thought that many of the guitar's harmonics go way past 4.5
KC.
| Am I wrong about this ?
You are not wrong, but harmonics isn't what the kids want.
The first requirement they have is rhythm, preferably a single steady
beat, and the second requirement is LOUD.
Everything thing else is dictated by fashion. For example, he wouldn't
be seen dead playing a ukelele or violin even if it had a 4000W
quadrophonic amplifier driving 15" bass speakers complete with
midrange and tweeters and sub-bass woofer, yet the ukelele is just
another stringed instument like a guitar.
| How come no tweeters in the speakers, commonly, for electric guitars ?
Because it isn't fashionable.
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| What the higher end of a electric guitars freq. response ?
| How about for acoustic guitars ?
Acoustic guitars need no amplification, by definition. They are "acoustic".
An acoustic guitar is gentle and curvacious and held lovingly to the breast
as you sit, whereas an electric guitar is phallic in nature and played at
the crotch as you stand. The ultimate objective is to mate rhythmically, not
play music.
Actually at my time of life I can't hear much above 10 KHz anyway,
so 20 KHz tweeters are not much use to me either, not that I'm interested
in hiss or even a 'plink' at the top end of a piano.
The notes are there, but not much music is written for them even by
Beethoven or Chopin and I wouldn't hear higher harmonics anyway.
Androcles.
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| User: "Raymond Yohros" |
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| Title: Re: Guitar & Speaker Freq. Response Question |
09 Aug 2006 01:24:49 PM |
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Robert11 ha escrito:
Hello:
Not sure what groupo toreally post this to, but it seems like everyone here
knows about most everything, so thought I'd try here first.
For any of you guitar players:
Son has a fancy Fender electric guitar, a very good ampl., and a massive,
heavy speaker. that is very popular with guitarists.
Looked at the speaker specs, and was very surprised to see that the upper
freq. cutoff was only about 4.5 KC. No tweeter, just the one speaker.
Looked at other combinations, and apparently the one speaker is the way they
all go.
Couldn't find any with a tweeter.
I would have thought that many of the guitar's harmonics go way past 4.5 KC.
Am I wrong about this ?
How come no tweeters in the speakers, commonly, for electric guitars ?
What the higher end of a electric guitars freq. response ?
How about for acoustic guitars ?
Thanks,
B.
Using diferent instruments for filling up diferent frequencies
is key for a good mix.
you dont want youre mix turning into just noise by
saturating the whole spectrum of the song
regards
ray
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| User: "PD" |
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| Title: Re: Guitar & Speaker Freq. Response Question |
09 Aug 2006 10:41:56 AM |
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Robert11 wrote:
Hello:
Not sure what groupo toreally post this to, but it seems like everyone here
knows about most everything, so thought I'd try here first.
For any of you guitar players:
Son has a fancy Fender electric guitar, a very good ampl., and a massive,
heavy speaker. that is very popular with guitarists.
Looked at the speaker specs, and was very surprised to see that the upper
freq. cutoff was only about 4.5 KC. No tweeter, just the one speaker.
Looked at other combinations, and apparently the one speaker is the way they
all go.
Couldn't find any with a tweeter.
I would have thought that many of the guitar's harmonics go way past 4.5 KC.
Am I wrong about this ?
How come no tweeters in the speakers, commonly, for electric guitars ?
What the higher end of a electric guitars freq. response ?
How about for acoustic guitars ?
Thanks,
B.
Before the age of about 18, the human frequency response of the ear
extends to 20kHz, but after reaching adulthood, this top end gradually
falls off. Ironically, this decrepitude is accelerated by listening to
loud guitar music.
This is the basis for new "mosquito" ring-tones at 16 kHz, which
preteens and teenagers can hear, but adults cannot.
http://www.aubraux.com/mosquito-ring-tones.php
Nevertheless, the difference between a live concert amp and what is
recorded in the studio (where the guitar is connected to a sound board
with a wider frequency response) is certainly noticeable.
PD
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