jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

In article <rv9p43-cfl.ln1@mail.specsol.com>,

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How often do you, where you is military, have to clean the guns?

In actual duty use, as soon as possible after having fired it.

If you just carried it around without firing it, just wipe it down.

Where do you put all this stuff? It's not as if you get to have
a chuckwagon follow you around whereever you go.

In an old chest of drawers in my garage.

Oh, you meant in the military when you are out and about.

Cleaning rods are made in screw together sections about a foot long.

The handle, if permanently attached, folds over.

When disassembled and folded, you have a bundle of stuff about a foot
long and about 1/2 inch in diameter.

You have a little bottle of powder solvent and a little bottle of oil.
Some times there are two part bottles.

The patches take up about as much space as a few folded hankies.

Some rifles have flip up butt plates covering holes in the stock
where you can stow most of the stuff, i.e. the rod and bottles.

For the M16 there is a pouch all the stuff fits into and you clip
it to your web belt along with your canteen, gas mask, magazine
pouches and any other stuff you need to carry.

You replace used stuff when you get "home".

Prior to about WWII, cleaning rods were usually one piece and were
stuck in a hole in the rifle stock underneath the barrel and everything
else was in a pouch.

Some firearms like the M16 have gas tubes you clean out with pipe
cleaners.

Gas tubes?

Gas operated automatic and semiautomatic firearms work by venting
a portion of the expanding gases through tubes and vents to a
piston that causes the weapon to cycle for the next round.

Oh! Venting. That hadn't occurred to me. :-) I was starting
to picture propulsion.

It is propulsion, just not what you were thinking off.

Something has to unlock the bolt, pull the bolt back and extract the
empty fired case from the chamber, push the bolt forward stripping a
new round from the magazine, chamber the new round, lock the bolt
back up, and ***** the mechanism for the next firing.

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I think someone is doing a bit of chain yanking; you would need to
understand GI humor.

Possibly. But I can't imagine them putting it on the list
when they could be getting candy and soap and cards. I'm
pretty sure, if it wasn't a chain yank, the reference had
to do with those useless light-flow pads.

What list are you talking about and where did it supposedly come
from?

In article <dlf8jn$8qk_001@s981.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,

I might mention, for comparison, recoil-operated mechanisms. Generally in
the cheaper weapons, like a .32 I once had that I paid less than $100 new
for. Just a straight barrel and a spring-loaded slide, no pistons or
vents or anything like that. You just have to rely on whatever momentum
the slide gained before the gasses escaped to keep it moving back far
enough to eject the empty and ***** the firing pin, and then it loads the
next round when it snaps back. That .32 stovepiped a lot, but I'm not
really sure why. That is, empty casing were caught in the ejection port
as the slide snapped back, so they'd be sticking straight out of it like
a pipe.
Gas operated weapons have a little hole somewhere in the middle of the
barrel that bleeds gasses into the appropriate mechanisms. That also lets
them keep the chamber sealed tight until the bullet is well on its way.
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In article <dlf8jn$8qk_001@s981.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
<jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote:

In article <rv9p43-cfl.ln1@mail.specsol.com>,

Some firearms like the M16 have gas tubes you clean out with pipe
cleaners.

Gas tubes?

Gas operated automatic and semiautomatic firearms work by venting
a portion of the expanding gases through tubes and vents to a
piston that causes the weapon to cycle for the next round.

Oh! Venting. That hadn't occurred to me. :-) I was starting
to picture propulsion.

I might mention, for comparison, recoil-operated mechanisms.

.. Generally in
the cheaper weapons, like a .32 I once had that I paid less than $100 new
for. Just a straight barrel and a spring-loaded slide, no pistons or
vents or anything like that. You just have to rely on whatever momentum
the slide gained before the gasses escaped to keep it moving back far
enough to eject the empty and ***** the firing pin, and then it loads the
next round when it snaps back. That .32 stovepiped a lot, but I'm not
really sure why. That is, empty casing were caught in the ejection port

as the slide snapped back, so they'd be sticking straight out of it like
a pipe.

Gas operated weapons have a little hole somewhere in the middle of the
barrel that bleeds gasses into the appropriate mechanisms. That also lets
them keep the chamber sealed tight until the bullet is well on its way.