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"Autymn D. C." |
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23 Mar 2007 10:57:33 AM |
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Hai, what are your favorite elements? |
Pick at most six. Here are mine: rhenium, tin, bismuth, caesium,
thorium, beryllium.
-Aut
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| User: "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \dlzc" |
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| Title: Re: Hai, what are your favorite elements? |
24 Mar 2007 09:54:15 AM |
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Dear Divij Rao:
"Divij Rao" <divij_urdbest@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message
news:1174741267.963901.230590@l75g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
my favourite are:
Osmium
Cesium
Uranium
Aurum
Francium
Radium
All have special properties... a good interface to
share ideas.... any comment on these selections
will be appreciated.
i and Autymn still await this "freon". what is it?
Fluorinated hydrocarbons. Take a light hydrocarbon you may know
and substitute fluorine for one or more hydrogens.
David A. Smith
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| User: "Autymn D. C." |
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| Title: Re: Hai, what are your favorite elements? |
16 Apr 2007 01:29:46 PM |
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On Mar 24, 12:26 am, "n...@bid.nes" <Alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 23, 8:57 am, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Pick at most six. Here are mine: rhenium, tin, bismuth, caesium,
thorium, beryllium.
Interesting choices. Mine:
Thank you for your thread. I seem to be the onely person who kens the
overlidom of rhenium. If nobody can tell what "penmetallia" means--
HgCl, SnO~2, dvialuminia-stannia for exempl--then I will stay the
onely.
Ag
Os
Ir
Pt
Au
(money metals)
I can't decide on a sixth; I read that Ho has "unusual magnetic
properties" but can't seem to find details.
Gd does, for magnetocaloric. Nd and Ho are expected to stick out
magneticly, as they're in the middel of the f-block.
http://elementsales.com/props.htm#ho
http://google.com/search?q=3Dhighest-magnetic-moment+OR+greatest-magnetic-m=
oment
Look at silver go!
Oddly, the CRC Handbook (2000) lists NdCo5 and PrCo5 as better magnets
(B_r) than Nd2Fe14B, but the last time I checkd there was no
commercial application for these newer cobaltides.
Just kidding. Favorite elements are those that I can eat (C, H, O,
N). Traces don't count. ;>)
That is why I like bismuth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bismuth#eat_i=
t=2E
As for your elements, you can eat char but it may be carcinog=E8nic, and
you can gulp the other gasses but what's the point? As for elements I
can eat, I like S--great smell--and its thiomethether is what
brininess in the sea truly comes from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethy=
l_sulfide.
Which should be "brimminess" however, as it's not brine.
The lanthanides are at=F2xic, as are the nobil d-block metals, even Hg I
suspect. The nobiles only hold t=F2xic species as compound salts or
chelates. Thus the media should distinguish between the properties of
"metallium" and "metallium(N)".
-Aut
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Hai, what are your favorite elements? |
16 Apr 2007 11:45:17 PM |
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On Apr 16, 11:29 am, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Mar 24, 12:26 am, "n...@bid.nes" <Alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 23, 8:57 am, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Pick at most six. Here are mine: rhenium, tin, bismuth, caesium,
thorium, beryllium.
Interesting choices. Mine:
Thank you for your thread. I seem to be the onely person who kens the
overlidom of rhenium. If nobody can tell what "penmetallia" means--
HgCl, SnO~2, dvialuminia-stannia for exempl--then I will stay the
onely.
I can translate all of that except "overlidom" and "penmetallia".
The latter is what I'm used to seeing as "transition metals"? If so:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transition_metal
doesn't seem to give a good reason to exclude Re (but notice Hg is
excluded).
Too bad there's so little of it; it would be useful in so many ways.
Ag
Os
Ir
Pt
Au
(money metals)
I can't decide on a sixth; I read that Ho has "unusual magnetic
properties" but can't seem to find details.
Gd does, for magnetocaloric. Nd and Ho are expected to stick out
magneticly, as they're in the middel of the f-block.
Wikipedia says it "has the highest magnetic moment (10.6=B5B) of any
naturally-occurring element and possesses other unusual magnetic
properties."
That's the sort of thing that drives me crazy(er).
http://elementsales.com/props.htm#hohttp://google.com/search?q=3Dhighest-=
magnetic-moment+OR+greatest-magnet...
Look at silver go!
Oddly, the CRC Handbook (2000) lists NdCo5 and PrCo5 as better magnets
(B_r) than Nd2Fe14B, but the last time I checkd there was no
commercial application for these newer cobaltides.
Could be their physical characteristics aren't amenable to typical
manufacturing processes. Look how long it took ceramic magnets to get
from the lab bench to car speakers.
Just kidding. Favorite elements are those that I can eat (C, H, O,
N). Traces don't count. ;>)
That is why I like bismuth:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bismuth#eat_=
it.
;>)
As for your elements, you can eat char but it may be carcinog=E8nic, and
you can gulp the other gasses but what's the point?
Oh, I could have said "suitably combined" as in carbohydrates, fats,
and proteins, but in the SF world the concept of "CHON food" is so old
hat I didn't think it needed explaining.
Also I rather should have said that the other two elements you
allowed be taken by fractions from the other less prominent but
eventually equally necessary components of food; Ca, K, P, I, the
assorted so-called trace metals, and so on.
As for elements I
can eat, I like S--great smell--and its thiomethether is what
brininess in the sea truly comes from:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimeth=
yl_sulfide.
Which should be "brimminess" however, as it's not brine.
And a rather important component of foods like garlic. Yummy!
The lanthanides are at=F2xic, as are the nobil d-block metals, even Hg I
suspect. The nobiles only hold t=F2xic species as compound salts or
chelates. Thus the media should distinguish between the properties of
"metallium" and "metallium(N)".
The media. Feh! They're lucky to say "element" when that's what they
mean.
Mark L. Fergerson
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| User: "Erik Max Francis" |
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16 Apr 2007 11:56:36 PM |
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wrote:
I can translate all of that except "overlidom" and "penmetallia".
Yes, but the bigger question is: Why would you bother trying to
translate it?
--
Erik Max Francis && && http://www.alcyone.com/max/
San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM, Y!M erikmaxfrancis
All men think all men mortal, save themselves.
-- Edmund Young
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Hai, what are your favorite elements? |
17 Apr 2007 12:00:10 AM |
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On Apr 16, 9:56 pm, Erik Max Francis <m...@alcyone.com> wrote:
n...@bid.nes wrote:
I can translate all of that except "overlidom" and "penmetallia".
Yes, but the bigger question is: Why would you bother trying to
translate it?
Harks back to my LSD days.
Mark L. Fergerson
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| User: "Erik Max Francis" |
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| Title: Re: Hai, what are your favorite elements? |
17 Apr 2007 12:14:32 AM |
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wrote:
On Apr 16, 9:56 pm, Erik Max Francis <m...@alcyone.com> wrote:
n...@bid.nes wrote:
I can translate all of that except "overlidom" and "penmetallia".
Yes, but the bigger question is: Why would you bother trying to
translate it?
Harks back to my LSD days.
That's more ripply, less crappy.
--
Erik Max Francis && && http://www.alcyone.com/max/
San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM, Y!M erikmaxfrancis
In the deepest sense, the search for extraterrestrial intelligence is
a search for who we are. -- Carl Sagan, 1934-1996
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| User: "Autymn D. C." |
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| Title: Re: Hai, what are your favorite elements? |
17 Apr 2007 08:45:22 AM |
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On Apr 16, 9:45 pm, "n...@bid.nes" <Alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
I can translate all of that except "overlidom" and "penmetallia".
The latter is what I'm used to seeing as "transition metals"? If so:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transition_metal
doesn't seem to give a good reason to exclude Re (but notice Hg is
excluded).
overlidom =3D superiorality
No, translat the -ia in metallia, then apply the pen- to the -ia.
Too bad there's so little of it; it would be useful in so many ways.
Under 100 K, something wonderful happens tom the penmetallia that
kicks copper's and silver's guts.
Wikipedia says it "has the highest magnetic moment (10.6=B5B) of any
naturally-occurring element and possesses other unusual magnetic
properties."
That's the sort of thing that drives me crazy(er).
It's LANL's fault: http://periodic.lanl.gov/elements/67.html. Then
the Wikipedian presentd it in addition.
As for your elements, you can eat char but it may be carcinog=E8nic, and
you can gulp the other gasses but what's the point?
Oh, I could have said "suitably combined" as in carbohydrates, fats,
and proteins, but in the SF world the concept of "CHON food" is so old
hat I didn't think it needed explaining.
Compounds aren't elements.
Also I rather should have said that the other two elements you
allowed be taken by fractions from the other less prominent but
eventually equally necessary components of food; Ca, K, P, I, the
assorted so-called trace metals, and so on.
And with the best of everything, MSG and proline:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proline#Synthesis_and_usage.
The lanthanides are at=F2xic, as are the nobil d-block metals, even Hg I
suspect. The nobiles only hold t=F2xic species as compound salts or
chelates. Thus the media should distinguish between the properties of
"metallium" and "metallium(N)".
The media. Feh! They're lucky to say "element" when that's what they
mean.
or "a bacterium"
-Aut
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| User: "Autymn D. C." |
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| Title: Re: Hai, what are your favorite elements? |
17 Apr 2007 08:49:38 AM |
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On Apr 17, 6:45 am, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Under 100 K, something wonderful happens tom the penmetallia that
kicks copper's and silver's guts.
under 120 K, even
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| User: "Madalch" |
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| Title: Re: Hai, what are your favorite elements? |
23 Mar 2007 11:55:55 AM |
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Rhodium, copper, phosphorus, vanadium, manganese, silver.
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