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20 Sep 2006 08:40:17 PM |
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Help on Special Relativity |
Is there an easy (but still going into depth) explanation of special
relativity? Can anyone show me one? Keep in mind that I am only in
middle school so keep it to algebra or relatively simple calculus...
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| User: "Dirk Van de moortel" |
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| Title: Re: Help on Special Relativity |
21 Sep 2006 03:01:10 PM |
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<wiiwiillwiin@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1158802817.839588.9730@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Is there an easy (but still going into depth) explanation of special
relativity? Can anyone show me one? Keep in mind that I am only in
middle school so keep it to algebra or relatively simple calculus...
Apart from the already mentioned "Spacetime Physics",
go for Robert Geroch's "General Relativity from A to B".
It is i.m.o. the very best non-formal introduction to special
relativity you can find.
Sample pages at
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0226288641/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-1614235-0223818#reader-page
Stay away from Einstein's work until you have worked
your way through these two.
Dirk Vdm
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| User: "srp" |
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| Title: Re: Help on Special Relativity |
21 Sep 2006 04:53:01 PM |
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a écrit :
Is there an easy (but still going into depth) explanation of special
relativity? Can anyone show me one? Keep in mind that I am only in
middle school so keep it to algebra or relatively simple calculus...
A clean intro at your level, with very simple math, and very clear
first contact explanation, is "Relativity" by Georges Gamow, one of
the physicists who helped clarify GR. Very effective popularizer.
One point of particular interest in this book is the clarification
of the original formula of G, the "universal gravitational constant"
You will then more easily get into the other suggested textbooks.
André Michaud
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| User: "" |
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23 Sep 2006 03:22:20 PM |
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This quote is from an earlier post by some Quantumnist who doesn't
understand that E= mc^2 is the formalism of the 'Law of the
Conservation of Matter and Energy' upon which all physics is based and
which was derived by Einstein.
"""""" then you'll find that this particle can be everywhere or
nowhere, and that it's existence or nonexistense depends upon the
detected location of other photons, and all of this is quantified in
terms of waves. Waves that were relabled "probability waves" by
Feynman, but which produce the same outcome and are thus are all the
same as em waves. In other words, light isn't particles, it's waves.
Einstein's speculation was simply incorrect. The photelectric effect
can be quantified without any such premise as particles of light.
"""""""
One should always keep in mind that Einstein may have had a great
disdain for the overblown narcissitic idiots that rule theoretical
science within the academic world. Both SR and GR are not his best
work. In GR he points out light will be bent 1.7 seconds of arc at the
limb of the Sun. Does this mean he was willing to share his gifted
insight into the workings of nature with the academic idiots who only
wished to write him out of science because he invalidated their made up
crap? Classical wave theory could not survive the Michelson-Morely
experiment and Einsteins paper on 'electrodynamic of moving bodies'.
In both papers he does put the final touches on theoretical physics.
Like a master putting the finshing touches on his masterpiece.
QM and probability waves fail to predict the momentum of light. Oh
well.....
QM and probability waves fail to predict mean energy for the
distribution of radiated energy and mean velocities of gas molecules.
Oh well.......
And please don't quote me your pitiful made up mathematics as proof
that you have mathematics.
The phenomena which are interpreted to show things such as nodel lines,
as evidence that light is a wave, can be explained more coreectly by
the mechanics of a high velocity gas, in which deflection causes
different densities within the gas.
QM was invented by Academics, Neils Bohr, and Heisenberg. Charlatan
International.Try to picture Bohr's theory at the same time as the
actual event of rarified hydrogen gas being warmed into emmision of
visible light, and the kinetic theory of gases. QM'ists have an
extremely narrow vision of their theoretics The rest of QM fails at any
broad application also. But the academics with thesis in QM will never
learn this fact,
Kent Deatherage
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| User: "Mike Fontenot" |
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| Title: Re: Help on Special Relativity |
21 Sep 2006 01:20:25 PM |
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wrote:
Is there an easy (but still going into depth) explanation of special
relativity? Can anyone show me one? Keep in mind that I am only in
middle school so keep it to algebra or relatively simple calculus...
I recommend starting with Einstein's "Relativity", by Crown
Publishers (ISBN 0-517-025302).
You are about to embark on a fascinating journey!
Mike Fontenot
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Help on Special Relativity |
20 Sep 2006 10:42:41 PM |
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wrote:
Is there an easy (but still going into depth) explanation of special
relativity? Can anyone show me one? Keep in mind that I am only in
middle school so keep it to algebra or relatively simple calculus...
Einstein's original paper is quite readable
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
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| User: "" |
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21 Sep 2006 10:27:20 AM |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
wiiwiillwiin@gmail.com wrote:
Is there an easy (but still going into depth) explanation of special
relativity? Can anyone show me one? Keep in mind that I am only in
middle school so keep it to algebra or relatively simple calculus...
Einstein's original paper is quite readable
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
When Einstein wrote this, the theoretical physics of the time believed
that light was a wave, like the ripples in a pond, through a fabric of
space called the ether. At the same time as he published this paper, he
also came out with the 'Theorem of the Inertia of Energy'. This
theorem states that all energy (E) has mass and the associated momentum
(m), according to the formula E = mc^2. He also released the paper 'The
light Quantum Hypothesis', in which he put forth the revolutionary idea
that light is composed of photons that fly through space like a hail of
shot, each photon with the energy and mass E = mc^2.
So the primary point of this paper on relativity was to prove that it
was not possible for classical physics' postulate of light being waves
through the ether to be valid, which he did successfully. He did this
by the thought experiments of high velocities and transmission of light
at these high velocities.
Kent Deatherage
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| User: "RP" |
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21 Sep 2006 11:06:20 AM |
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wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
wiiwiillwiin@gmail.com wrote:
Is there an easy (but still going into depth) explanation of special
relativity? Can anyone show me one? Keep in mind that I am only in
middle school so keep it to algebra or relatively simple calculus...
Einstein's original paper is quite readable
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
When Einstein wrote this, the theoretical physics of the time believed
that light was a wave, like the ripples in a pond, through a fabric of
space called the ether. At the same time as he published this paper, he
also came out with the 'Theorem of the Inertia of Energy'. This
theorem states that all energy (E) has mass and the associated momentum
(m), according to the formula E = mc^2. He also released the paper 'The
light Quantum Hypothesis', in which he put forth the revolutionary idea
that light is composed of photons that fly through space like a hail of
shot, each photon with the energy and mass E = mc^2.
So the primary point of this paper on relativity was to prove that it
was not possible for classical physics' postulate of light being waves
through the ether to be valid, which he did successfully. He did this
by the thought experiments of high velocities and transmission of light
at these high velocities.
Kent Deatherage
There was nothing revolutionary in the notion of photons as particles.
If you'll red Baez's page
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/photon
, then you'll find that this particle can be everywhere or nowhere, and
that it's existence or nonexistense depends upon the detected location
of other photons, and all of this is quantified in terms of waves.
Waves that were relabled "probability waves" by Feynman, but which
produce the same outcome and are thus are all the same as em waves. In
other words, light isn't particles, it's waves. Einstein's speculation
was simply incorrect. The photelectric effect can be quantified without
any such premise as particles of light.
Richard Perry
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| User: "Sue..." |
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| Title: Re: Help on Special Relativity |
21 Sep 2006 04:37:46 PM |
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wrote:
Is there an easy (but still going into depth) explanation of special
relativity? Can anyone show me one? Keep in mind that I am only in
middle school so keep it to algebra or relatively simple calculus...
If the use of an imaginary axis (square root of -1 ) is part of
you maths program, or is soon to be, you might gain some
insight faster by looking at the end product... a way to plot
positions in both space and time.
"Minkowski's Four-Dimensional Space"
http://www.bartleby.com/173/17.html
The preceeding chapters are an endless source of
debate about exact interpretations and can bog you
down. But this chapter should get an unambiguous
interpretation and perhaps even some tutoriing
from many secondary school teachers of
geometery or algebra.
Sue...
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| User: "PD" |
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| Title: Re: Help on Special Relativity |
21 Sep 2006 12:07:29 PM |
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wrote:
Is there an easy (but still going into depth) explanation of special
relativity? Can anyone show me one? Keep in mind that I am only in
middle school so keep it to algebra or relatively simple calculus...
Paperback book, Spacetime Physics, Taylor & Wheeler. Best book on the
subject out there.
PD
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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21 Sep 2006 01:08:19 PM |
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"PD" <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158858449.269842.50610@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
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| > Is there an easy (but still going into depth) explanation of special
| > relativity? Can anyone show me one? Keep in mind that I am only in
| > middle school so keep it to algebra or relatively simple calculus...
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| Paperback book, Spacetime Physics, Taylor & Wheeler. Best book on the
| subject out there.
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| PD
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Hahaha! That's where you get your ***** from, is it?
Fuckin' tail wagging the dog. Why buy shampoo when you can
have real poo for free?
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
(algebra and relatively impossible calculus).
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| User: "PD" |
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| Title: Re: Help on Special Relativity |
21 Sep 2006 03:51:39 PM |
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Sorcerer wrote:
"PD" <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158858449.269842.50610@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
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| > Is there an easy (but still going into depth) explanation of special
| > relativity? Can anyone show me one? Keep in mind that I am only in
| > middle school so keep it to algebra or relatively simple calculus...
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| Paperback book, Spacetime Physics, Taylor & Wheeler. Best book on the
| subject out there.
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| PD
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Hahaha! That's where you get your ***** from, is it?
Fuckin' tail wagging the dog. Why buy shampoo when you can
have real poo for free?
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
(algebra and relatively impossible calculus).
Well, it tripped you up, so as a primer it's apparently not foolproof.
PD
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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| Title: Re: Help on Special Relativity |
21 Sep 2006 07:51:05 PM |
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"PD" <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158871899.691316.128680@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
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| Sorcerer wrote:
| > "PD" <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:1158858449.269842.50610@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
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| > | wrote:
| > | > Is there an easy (but still going into depth) explanation of special
| > | > relativity? Can anyone show me one? Keep in mind that I am only in
| > | > middle school so keep it to algebra or relatively simple calculus...
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| > | Paperback book, Spacetime Physics, Taylor & Wheeler. Best book on the
| > | subject out there.
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| > | PD
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| > Hahaha! That's where you get your ***** from, is it?
| > Fuckin' tail wagging the dog. Why buy shampoo when you can
| > have real poo for free?
| > http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
| > (algebra and relatively impossible calculus).
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| Well, it tripped you up, so as a primer it's apparently not foolproof.
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| PD
I was once browsing a bookshop near CMU in Pittsburgh and
saw it on the shelf, opened it and promptly took it back to the
kiddy section, putting it beside "See Spot Run". Then I bought
a copy of Foley Van Dam for $48.
http://tinyurl.com/znema
Inflation makes a difference.
Androcles
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| User: "Helmut Wabnig" |
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| Title: Re: Help on Special Relativity |
22 Sep 2006 01:35:34 AM |
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On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 00:51:05 GMT, "Sorcerer"
<Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote:
I was once browsing a bookshop near CMU in Pittsburgh and
saw it on the shelf, opened it and promptly took it back to the
kiddy section, putting it beside "See Spot Run". Then I bought
a copy of Foley Van Dam for $48.
http://tinyurl.com/znema
Inflation makes a difference.
Androcles
And now you know how to program little graphic demos.
Physics is not your stuff, yet by moving pixels around
on the computer screen you think you created physics evidence.
Sauserer Androcles lives in a dream world.
He takes his videos as reality.
Moves a shape across the computer monitor and yells to all newsgroups:
This is how the real world works! Sauserer created it!
Go back to the kiddy section, Sauserer, and get the books
you missed at age 5.
And get a fresh diaper.
w.
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