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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "q-bit"
Date: 25 Aug 2007 03:44:35 PM
Object: Hidden variables exist
Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.
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User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 25 Aug 2007 07:01:27 PM
On Aug 25, 12:44 pm, "q-bit" <johnsm...@nospamorg.org> wrote:

Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.

....look who just discovered the Wikipedia entry on quantum mechanics...
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User: "mike3"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 25 Aug 2007 04:34:25 PM
On Aug 25, 2:44 pm, "q-bit" <johnsm...@nospamorg.org> wrote:

Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.

?
If something has been "disproven" to exist, that means that it's
been proven not to exist, OK? So hidden variables do not
exist.
.
User: "q-bit"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 25 Aug 2007 04:49:15 PM
"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote

On Aug 25, 2:44 pm, "q-bit" <johnsm...@nospamorg.org> wrote:

Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.


?
If something has been "disproven" to exist, that means that it's
been proven not to exist, OK? So hidden variables do not exist.

Misleading the science community to gain a secret advantage for the 'own case'...
Can you show just one experiment done by the Relativits that was "clean"?
Bell was a Relativist. Do I need to tell more?...
Money rules the world, so the science, and all of the "truths"...
Think further...
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User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 25 Aug 2007 04:53:39 PM
"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1188077665.930760.276870@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
: On Aug 25, 2:44 pm, "q-bit" <johnsm...@nospamorg.org> wrote:
: > Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.
:
: ?
:
: If something has been "disproven" to exist, that means that it's
: been proven not to exist, OK?
No.
So hidden variables do not
: exist.
Not proven only means not proven.
IF it rains THEN I'll take my umbrella ELSE I'll get soaked. (Valid
statement)
It did not rain. (Given fact)
Did I take my umbrella OR get soaked?
Obviously I did not get soaked by rain, but equally I could
have taken my umbrella or fallen into a swimming pool without
proving it rained or did not rain.
It is impossible to prove the non-existence of something.
All bright green flying elephants lay eggs. (Valid statement)
I have an egg. (Given fact)
Have I proven the existence or non-existence of bright
green flying elephants?
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User: "YBM"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 25 Aug 2007 07:17:54 PM
Androcles a écrit :

"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1188077665.930760.276870@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
: On Aug 25, 2:44 pm, "q-bit" <johnsm...@nospamorg.org> wrote:
: > Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.
:
: ?
:
: If something has been "disproven" to exist, that means that it's
: been proven not to exist, OK?

No.

So hidden variables do not
: exist.


Not proven only means not proven.

IF it rains THEN I'll take my umbrella ELSE I'll get soaked. (Valid
statement)
It did not rain. (Given fact)
Did I take my umbrella OR get soaked?

Androcleps and logic :
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORrevisited.html

Obviously I did not get soaked by rain, but equally I could
have taken my umbrella or fallen into a swimming pool without
proving it rained or did not rain.

It is impossible to prove the non-existence of something.
All bright green flying elephants lay eggs. (Valid statement)
I have an egg. (Given fact)
Have I proven the existence or non-existence of bright
green flying elephants?

hidden (local) variables => P, (not P) oberved. EoS.
BTW, hidden (non local) variables have been proven to be
compatible with QM.
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User: "hanson"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 26 Aug 2007 12:57:21 AM
Your Basic Moron aka "YBM" <ybmess@nooos.fr> wrote in
message news:46d0c6b8$0$432$426a74cc@news.free.fr...


[Andro]

It is impossible to prove the non-existence of something.
All bright green flying elephants lay eggs. (Valid statement)
I have an egg. (Given fact)
Have I proven the existence or non-existence of bright
green flying elephants?


[YBM]

hidden (local) variables => P, (not P) oberved. EoS.
BTW, hidden (non local) variables have been proven to be
compatible with QM.

[hanson]
"Hidden variables" are the QMassters equivalent of
the Einstein Dingleberries' "Frame Dragging". Both
can be found on the intellectual fish markets in the
section for damaged goods... ahahahaha....
ahahaha... ahahahanson
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User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 26 Aug 2007 02:18:57 AM
"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
news:5D8Ai.1272$Ya2.1005@trnddc05...
: Your Basic Moron aka "YBM" <ybmess@nooos.fr> wrote in
: message news:46d0c6b8$0$432$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
: >>
: [Andro]
: >> It is impossible to prove the non-existence of something.
: >> All bright green flying elephants lay eggs. (Valid statement)
: >> I have an egg. (Given fact)
: >> Have I proven the existence or non-existence of bright
: >> green flying elephants?
: >
: [YBM]
: > hidden (local) variables => P, (not P) oberved. EoS.
: > BTW, hidden (non local) variables have been proven to be
: > compatible with QM.
: >
: [hanson]
: "Hidden variables" are the QMassters equivalent of
: the Einstein Dingleberries' "Frame Dragging". Both
: can be found on the intellectual fish markets in the
: section for damaged goods... ahahahaha....
: ahahaha... ahahahanson
:
All Your Basic Moron had to answer was "yes" or "no"...
Or was that what "EoS" was supposed to mean?
Why the ***** imbeciles like Wabnigga and Your Basic Moron
reply to my posts I'll never know, they've been killfiled long ago.
BTW, Your Basic Moron is a Dork Van de local village idiot
dingleberry.
.
User: "hanson"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 26 Aug 2007 02:32:37 PM
AHAHAHAHAHA... Andro, be their Savior!... ahahahaha...


"Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics> wrote in message
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"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
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Your Basic Moron aka "YBM" <ybmess@nooos.fr> wrote in
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: >>

[Andro]
It is impossible to prove the non-existence of something.
All bright green flying elephants lay eggs. (Valid statement)
I have an egg. (Given fact)
Have I proven the existence or non-existence of bright
green flying elephants?

: >

[YBM]
hidden (local) variables => P, (not P) oberved. EoS.
BTW, hidden (non local) variables have been proven to be
compatible with QM.

: >

[hanson]
"Hidden variables" are the QMassters equivalent of
the Einstein Dingleberries' "Frame Dragging". Both
can be found on the intellectual fish markets in the
section for damaged goods... ahahahaha....
ahahaha... ahahahanson


[Andro]
All Your Basic Moron, [YBM], had to answer was "yes" or "no"...
Or was that what "EoS" was supposed to mean?


[hanson]
Your Basic Moron obviously meant to say that... "EoS" =
'Einstein's occult Seminar " = "Einstein opposes Sanity"
= "Einstein orates Stupidity" = Einstein ordains Shitheads".
Ergo: ***** heads have/are ED, Einstein Dingleberries
who are "oberved", over fed, Fat Einstein Dingleberries.


[Andro]

Why the ***** imbeciles like Wabnigga and Your Basic Moron
reply to my posts I'll never know, they've been killfiled long ago.
BTW, Your Basic Moron is a Dork Van de local village idiot
dingleberry.

[hanson]
All these ED's NEED you. These Einstein Dingleberries are
damaged goods. They awe and adore the strength of your
towering intellect which is why they crowd you, Andro.
Therefore you should not only enjoy them and have fun on
their account. You must pity them like the Bumper-sticker
that says: "Hire the handicapped --- they are fun to watch"
See, you must become a Samaritan, a savior for them.
They yearn for you. The need you. They want you.
********* Have mercy onto them! ************
Thanks for the laughs, Andro!.... ahahahahanson
.
User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 26 Aug 2007 03:08:49 PM
"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
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: AHAHAHAHAHA... Andro, be their Savior!... ahahahaha...
: >
: "Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics> wrote in message
: news:BP9Ai.129940$lx3.23509@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
: "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
: news:5D8Ai.1272$Ya2.1005@trnddc05...
: Your Basic Moron aka "YBM" <ybmess@nooos.fr> wrote in
: message news:46d0c6b8$0$432$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
: > : >>
: [Andro]
: It is impossible to prove the non-existence of something.
: All bright green flying elephants lay eggs. (Valid statement)
: I have an egg. (Given fact)
: Have I proven the existence or non-existence of bright
: green flying elephants?
: > : >
: [YBM]
: hidden (local) variables => P, (not P) oberved. EoS.
: BTW, hidden (non local) variables have been proven to be
: compatible with QM.
: > : >
: [hanson]
: "Hidden variables" are the QMassters equivalent of
: the Einstein Dingleberries' "Frame Dragging". Both
: can be found on the intellectual fish markets in the
: section for damaged goods... ahahahaha....
: ahahaha... ahahahanson
: >
: [Andro]
: All Your Basic Moron, [YBM], had to answer was "yes" or "no"...
: Or was that what "EoS" was supposed to mean?
: >
: [hanson]
: Your Basic Moron obviously meant to say that... "EoS" =
: 'Einstein's occult Seminar " = "Einstein opposes Sanity"
: = "Einstein orates Stupidity" = Einstein ordains Shitheads".
: Ergo: ***** heads have/are ED, Einstein Dingleberries
: who are "oberved", over fed, Fat Einstein Dingleberries.
: >
: [Andro]
: > Why the ***** imbeciles like Wabnigga and Your Basic Moron
: > reply to my posts I'll never know, they've been killfiled long ago.
: > BTW, Your Basic Moron is a Dork Van de local village idiot
: > dingleberry.
: >
: [hanson]
: All these ED's NEED you. These Einstein Dingleberries are
: damaged goods. They awe and adore the strength of your
: towering intellect which is why they crowd you, Andro.
: Therefore you should not only enjoy them and have fun on
: their account. You must pity them like the Bumper-sticker
: that says: "Hire the handicapped --- they are fun to watch"
: See, you must become a Samaritan, a savior for them.
: They yearn for you. The need you. They want you.
: ********* Have mercy onto them! ************
: Thanks for the laughs, Andro!.... ahahahahanson
:
A picture to go with Einstein's third postulate, they wont understand
it without a picture:
--
'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A' because I SAY SO and you have to
agree because I'm the great genius, STOOOPID Jew, don't you
dare question it. -- Rabbi Albert Einstein,
who in 1895 failed an examination that would have allowed
him to study for a diploma as an electrical engineer at
the Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule in Zurich
(couldn't even pass the SATs).
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Smart/tAB=tBA.gif
As we all know, 12 = 4 and 1/2 (12+4) = 12.
"If such a thing were actually observed, reliably and reproducibly, then
relativity would immediately need a major overhaul if not a complete
replacement." -- Tom Roberts.
"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
evidence." -- Uncle Stooopid rect-Al the dumb Yid.

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User: "Igor"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 27 Aug 2007 12:36:45 PM
On Aug 25, 4:44 pm, "q-bit" <johnsm...@nospamorg.org> wrote:

Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.

Maybe you could enlighten us as to how Bell disproved hidden
variables. Have you ever read his papers on the subject? I doubt
it. If you actually had read Bell, you'd understand just how silly
that statement sounds.
.
User: "q-bit"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 27 Aug 2007 02:20:19 PM
"Igor" <thoovler@excite.com> wrote

On Aug 25, 4:44 pm, "q-bit" <johnsm...@nospamorg.org> wrote:

Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.


Maybe you could enlighten us as to how Bell disproved hidden
variables. Have you ever read his papers on the subject? I doubt
it. If you actually had read Bell, you'd understand just how silly
that statement sounds.

His conclusion is:
"No physical theory of local hidden variables can ever
reproduce all of the predictions of quantum mechanics."
This is IMO BS.
With hidden variables one can reproduce everything.
And my view is that hidden variables do exist.
And as I pointed out in an other thread there seems to be
an error in the mechanics of the universe when it allows
a photon to go through both slits in the DoubleSlit experiment.
Most probably this is an error caused due to the gravitation field.
I think the error will not happen if the same experiment is
done in free space and at rest (g~v~a~0).
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User: ""

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 27 Aug 2007 02:53:36 PM
On Aug 27, 3:20 pm, "q-bit" <johnsm...@nospamorg.org> wrote:

"Igor" <thoov...@excite.com> wrote

On Aug 25, 4:44 pm, "q-bit" <johnsm...@nospamorg.org> wrote:


Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.


Maybe you could enlighten us as to how Bell disproved hidden
variables. Have you ever read his papers on the subject? I doubt
it. If you actually had read Bell, you'd understand just how silly
that statement sounds.


His conclusion is:
"No physical theory of local hidden variables can ever
reproduce all of the predictions of quantum mechanics."

This is IMO BS.
With hidden variables one can reproduce everything.
And my view is that hidden variables do exist.

And as I pointed out in an other thread there seems to be
an error in the mechanics of the universe when it allows

The only "error" in the mechanics of the universe is the one that
allows you to post as if you know WTF you are talking about.

a photon to go through both slits in the DoubleSlit experiment.
Most probably this is an error caused due to the gravitation field.
I think the error will not happen if the same experiment is
done in free space and at rest (g~v~a~0).

.

User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 27 Aug 2007 10:09:18 PM
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:20:19 +0200, "q-bit" <johnsmith@nospamorg.org>
wrote:

"Igor" <thoovler@excite.com> wrote

On Aug 25, 4:44 pm, "q-bit" <johnsm...@nospamorg.org> wrote:

Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.


Maybe you could enlighten us as to how Bell disproved hidden
variables. Have you ever read his papers on the subject? I doubt
it. If you actually had read Bell, you'd understand just how silly
that statement sounds.


His conclusion is:
"No physical theory of local hidden variables can ever
reproduce all of the predictions of quantum mechanics."

This is IMO BS.

....and why is your opinion worth anything?
You do not understand freshman calculus, much less nonrelativistic
quantum mechanics and the proof of Bell's theorem.

With hidden variables one can reproduce everything.
And my view is that hidden variables do exist.

Ignorance is not a way of knowing things.


And as I pointed out in an other thread there seems to be
an error in the mechanics of the universe when it allows
a photon to go through both slits in the DoubleSlit experiment.
Most probably this is an error caused due to the gravitation field.
I think the error will not happen if the same experiment is
done in free space and at rest (g~v~a~0).

Learn some physics instead of spouting stupidities.
.



User: "BioFreak"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 26 Aug 2007 08:13:42 AM
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 22:44:35 +0200, q-bit wrote:

Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.

Hehe :) I see you've begun to believe my words. Don't
despair though. You can still stay in this forum. Just
don't insist on fooling others.
--
"moshg Anast ke khod bebuyad, na Anke attAr
beguyad."
- Sa'di
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User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 25 Aug 2007 05:14:34 PM
q-bit wrote:


Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
evidence.
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/analysis.jpg
Idiot.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
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User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 25 Aug 2007 06:04:39 PM
"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:46D0A9CA.1393749A@hate.spam.net...
: q-bit wrote:
: >
: > Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.
:
: What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
: evidence.
Correct for a change, fuckhead.
'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A' . -- Rabbi Albert Einstein.
"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
evidence." -- Uncle Stooopid rect-Al the dumb Jew.
Rabbi Albert Einstein in 1895 failed an examination that would have
allowed him to study for a diploma as an electrical engineer at
the Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule in Zurich
(couldn't even pass the SATs).
.
User: "Dead Paul"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 27 Aug 2007 01:18:07 PM
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:04:39 +0000, Androcles wrote:


"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:46D0A9CA.1393749A@hate.spam.net...
: q-bit wrote:
: >
: > Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.
:
: What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
: evidence.

Correct for a change, fuckhead.

'we establish by definition that the "time" required by light to travel
from A to B equals the "time" it requires to travel from B to A' . --
Rabbi Albert Einstein.

excellent
--
___ _______ ___ ___ ___ __ ____
/ _ \/ __/ _ | / _ \ / _ \/ _ |/ / / / /
/ // / _// __ |/ // / / ___/ __ / /_/ / /__
/____/___/_/ |_/____/ /_/ /_/ |_\____/____/
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User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 27 Aug 2007 02:17:46 PM
"Dead Paul" <dead_paul@no.reply> wrote in message
news:fav4gu$5pr$1@news.datemas.de...
: On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:04:39 +0000, Androcles wrote:
:
: >
: > "Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
: > news:46D0A9CA.1393749A@hate.spam.net...
: > : q-bit wrote:
: > : >
: > : > Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.
: > :
: > : What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
: > : evidence.
: >
: > Correct for a change, fuckhead.
: >
: > 'we establish by definition that the "time" required by light to travel
: > from A to B equals the "time" it requires to travel from B to A' . --
: > Rabbi Albert Einstein.
:
: excellent
:
Thank you.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Smart/Smart.htm
.


User: "Al in Dallas"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 26 Aug 2007 08:52:42 AM
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:04:39 GMT, "Androcles"
<Engineer@hogwarts.physics> wrote:


"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:46D0A9CA.1393749A@hate.spam.net...
: q-bit wrote:
: >
: > Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.
:
: What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
: evidence.

Correct for a change, fuckhead.

'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A' . -- Rabbi Albert Einstein.

"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
evidence." -- Uncle Stooopid rect-Al the dumb Jew.


Rabbi Albert Einstein in 1895 failed an examination that would have
allowed him to study for a diploma as an electrical engineer at
the Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule in Zurich
(couldn't even pass the SATs).

You are beyond parody. Just how high is your crackpot score now?
--
Al in St. Lou
.
User: "Y.Porat"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 26 Aug 2007 09:03:25 AM
On Aug 26, 4:52 pm, Al in Dallas <alfargn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:04:39 GMT, "Androcles"





<Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:

"Uncle Al" <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:46D0A9CA.1393749A@hate.spam.net...
: q-bit wrote:
: >
: > Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.
:
: What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
: evidence.


Correct for a change, fuckhead.


'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A' . -- Rabbi Albert Einstein.


"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
evidence." -- Uncle Stooopid rect-Al the dumb Jew.


Rabbi Albert Einstein in 1895 failed an examination that would have
allowed him to study for a diploma as an electrical engineer at
the Eidgen=F6ssische Technische Hochschule in Zurich
(couldn't even pass the SATs).


You are beyond parody. Just how high is your crackpot score now?

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speak physics gangster crook
Y=2EP
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User: ""

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 27 Aug 2007 02:51:27 PM
On Aug 26, 9:52 am, Al in Dallas <alfargn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:04:39 GMT, "Androcles"





<Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:

"Uncle Al" <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:46D0A9CA.1393749A@hate.spam.net...
: q-bit wrote:
: >
: > Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.
:
: What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
: evidence.


Correct for a change, fuckhead.


'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A' . -- Rabbi Albert Einstein.


"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
evidence." -- Uncle Stooopid rect-Al the dumb Jew.


Rabbi Albert Einstein in 1895 failed an examination that would have
allowed him to study for a diploma as an electrical engineer at
the Eidgen=F6ssische Technische Hochschule in Zurich
(couldn't even pass the SATs).


You are beyond parody. Just how high is your crackpot score now?

Much higher than his GRE score, I'm sure.... Almost as high as Porat's
crackpot score...


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User: "Y.Porat"

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 27 Aug 2007 08:49:08 PM
On Aug 27, 10:51 pm,
wrote:

On Aug 26, 9:52 am, Al in Dallas <alfargn...@yahoo.com> wrote:





On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:04:39 GMT, "Androcles"


<Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:


"Uncle Al" <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:46D0A9CA.1393749A@hate.spam.net...
: q-bit wrote:
: >
: > Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wrong.
:
: What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
: evidence.


Correct for a change, fuckhead.


'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A' . -- Rabbi Albert Einstein.


"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
evidence." -- Uncle Stooopid rect-Al the dumb Jew.


Rabbi Albert Einstein in 1895 failed an examination that would have
allowed him to study for a diploma as an electrical engineer at
the Eidgen=F6ssische Technische Hochschule in Zurich
(couldn't even pass the SATs).


You are beyond parody. Just how high is your crackpot score now?


Much higher than his GRE score, I'm sure.... Almost as high as Porat's
crackpot score...





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indeed youare the only one that has a good idea about
an anonymous called Photon and
even added on it 'charisma ' ??!!
an idiot with self estimate charisma ??(:-)
all i found in you is just 'Shitisma' !!
(let other define your ***** head as charisma
charisma is not a chracteristics
one takes for himselfit has tobe done by others
got it disturbed psycho idiot crook ??
Y=2EP
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User: ""

Title: Re: Hidden variables exist 27 Aug 2007 10:15:45 PM
On Aug 27, 9:49 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 27, 10:51 pm,

wrote:





On Aug 26, 9:52 am, Al in Dallas <alfargn...@yahoo.com> wrote:


On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:04:39 GMT, "Androcles"


<Engin...@hogwarts.physics> wrote:


"Uncle Al" <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:46D0A9CA.1393749A@hate.spam.net...
: q-bit wrote:
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: > Hidden variables exist, even if Bell disproved them. He was wron=

g=2E

:
: What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
: evidence.


Correct for a change, fuckhead.


'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A' . -- Rabbi Albert Einstein.


"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
evidence." -- Uncle Stooopid rect-Al the dumb Jew.


Rabbi Albert Einstein in 1895 failed an examination that would have
allowed him to study for a diploma as an electrical engineer at
the Eidgen=F6ssische Technische Hochschule in Zurich
(couldn't even pass the SATs).


You are beyond parody. Just how high is your crackpot score now?


Much higher than his GRE score, I'm sure.... Almost as high as Porat's
crackpot score...


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indeed youare the only one that has a good idea about
an anonymous called Photon and

"Panton" =3D "of all" in Greek.

even added on it 'charisma ' ??!!

No, *****. "Chrimaton" =3D "of things" in Greek..
Therefore "panton chrimaton" =3D "of all things"...
As is "Panton chrimaton anthropos metron estin" =3D "Of all things man
the measure is". Translated usually as "Man is the measure of all
things."

an idiot with self estimate charisma ??(:-)

all i found in you is just 'Shitisma' !!
(let other define your ***** head as charisma
charisma is not a chracteristics
one takes for himselfit has tobe done by others
got it disturbed psycho idiot crook ??

Hey, jerk off - shut the ***** up. It's time to put an Uzi or Galil in
your mouth and die of lead poisoning :-)


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