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User: "Laurent"
Date: 06 Jan 2008 05:26:19 PM
Object: Holistic Awareness*
Holistic Awareness
Instead of - " to be is to be perceived " - (consciousness precedes
matter), it should have been - " to be is to perceive " - (matter
precedes consciousness).
Von Neumann was right when he said that the evolution of the
Schroedinger wave depends on quantum mechanical observables, implying
that this information can only come from spacetime. Yet, since the
theory considers brains to be measuring devices, it includes the
observer as an efficacious agent. The only reason human brains entered
the equation was that, as they received light (EMR) coming from the
particle, just like all objects in spacetime do, information about
momentum and location, which is vital to maintain energy conservation
laws, became known to the particle/system, allowing it to complete the
feedback control loop and continue to condense.
According to present day theory the total energy available to the
universe was preset at the moment of its emergence, and Thermodynamics
tell us that each of its parts must register how much energy it's
being used in relation to the whole. Each object that moves in space
must follow the laws of energy conservation. But how else could the
universe 'sense' how much energy is being used by some galaxy 5
billion light years away if it wasn't through momentum space... a non-
material medium from which spacetime emerges as a product of active
information?
As Ernest Mach explained inertia, he came to the conclusion that
energy usage by objects within the universe is instantaneously
reported through momentum space. This is where phenomena like inertia
comes from. Particles 'sense' other particles as they complete the
state information exchange and realize the spatial relationships,
between them and space, required to collapse the state wave packet
from hyperspace, as they crystallize into spacetime. Holistic
perception is an intrinsic function of matter explained by the
aether's oneness, and this function helps Nature to evolve.
The observer, in the present theory, must refer to any object that is
able to interpret environmental information brought to it by EM waves.
Observation with the only purpose of establishing the particle's
spatial parameters (speed, size, mass...) in any given inertial frame.
The particle must first be in thermal equilibrium with the environment
before it can exist as matter in spacetime, that's the law.
So Quantum Mechanics' big mystery was - why do I have to observe the
cat in order for the cat to live or die? And the answer is that our
brains are measuring devices, just like the rest of all matter. We are
the best measuring device that ever emerged from all the information
processing that has transcurred in our neighborhood to this date.
Interactions within a system, like a brain for example, depend on more
than the information it gets through the senses.
Perception is a very old natural function inherent to all matter, not
some exclusive human ability. Particles in spacetime perceive, select,
and integrate into their state wave function only that information
which is important or useful to them in their endless quest for
thermal efficiency and equilibrium. Our mind, with all of its mental
waves and accompanying frequencies, became the modern version of that
same holistic awareness function after 14 billion years of information
processing, autopoiesis, and evolution. Wholeness in time and space is
what allowed Nature to evolve.
--
Laurent
.

User: "brian fletcher"

Title: Re: Holistic Awareness* 08 Jan 2008 09:31:16 AM
"Laurent" <cyberdyno@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Holistic Awareness


Instead of - " to be is to be perceived " - (consciousness precedes
matter), it should have been - " to be is to perceive " - (matter
precedes consciousness).

Snip.
I am therefor I thin k supercedes I think therefor I am.
BOfL
.
User: "Don Stockbauer"

Title: Re: Holistic Awareness* 08 Jan 2008 09:47:03 AM
On Jan 8, 9:31 am, "brian fletcher" <brian...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

"Laurent" <cyberd...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Holistic Awareness


Instead of - " to be is to be perceived " - (consciousness precedes
matter), it should have been - " to be is to perceive " - (matter
precedes consciousness).


Snip.

I am therefor I thin k supercedes I think therefor I am.

BOfL

A rock am.
But doesn't think.
.
User: "brian fletcher"

Title: Re: Holistic Awareness* 08 Jan 2008 05:57:30 PM
"Don Stockbauer" <don.stockbauer@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 8, 9:31 am, "brian fletcher" <brian...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

"Laurent" <cyberd...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:11ae3039-ee03-4c66-a7f0-fffb40327a62@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...

Holistic Awareness


Instead of - " to be is to be perceived " - (consciousness precedes
matter), it should have been - " to be is to perceive " - (matter
precedes consciousness).


Snip.

I am therefor I thin k supercedes I think therefor I am.

BOfL


A rock am.

But doesn't think.

Nor does my finger. Are you talking about "my rock" :-)
BOfL
.



User: "Immortalist"

Title: Re: Holistic Awareness* 06 Jan 2008 06:00:43 PM

Perception is a very old natural function inherent to all matter, not
some exclusive human ability. Particles in spacetime perceive, select,
and integrate into their state wave function only that information
which is important or useful to them in their endless quest for
thermal efficiency and equilibrium. Our mind, with all of its mental
waves and accompanying frequencies, became the modern version of that
same holistic awareness function after 14 billion years of information
processing, autopoiesis, and evolution. Wholeness in time and space is
what allowed Nature to evolve.

Wouldn't that be like saying that single words can be sentences and
sentences can be paragraph, or paragraphs are like a single letter,
this in the necessary hierarchy of grammatical syntactical
organization needed to produce meaning?
Maybe the element of perception are there and some possibly arranged
in ways that are similar to human biological organization.
There are three kinds of "scopes" we can look through at one time and
one scale of observation;
Microscope
Mesoscope
Macroscope
Pretext: will become "mico-scale"
Text: will become "root-scale" or "middle-scale"
Context: will become "macr-scale"
THREE SCALES:
(-1) - Micro-scale: A prefix denoting very small size; e.g.
microgamete, micronucleus.
( 0) - Meso-scale: In meteorology, describing systems, or patterns of
systems between small and synoptic [The term means 'simultaneous']
scale; dimensions of between about 10 and 100 km across, in the
horizontal, have been suggested.
(+1) - Macro-scale: Large-scale. Thus, a macroclimate is the general
climate of a region extending across several hundred kilometres, such
as the Great Plains of North America, macrometeorology is the study of
large scale meteorological phenomena which can cover hundreds of
kilometres or may encompass the whole globe, from monsoons to the
general circulation of the atmosphere, and macro-economics is the
study of an economy as a whole.
Shifting focus upon different "scales" (attention to one area of a
hierarchy) can be illustrated with an analogy from grammatical
stucture and hierarchy. [In music theory a scale is those notes within
a group that don't repeat the same tone at a higher of lower octives.
When the same note is reached in a different scale of a higher or
lower pitch then it is another octive. (you can ignore this part)]
If we focus upon a word it becomes the "meso-scale" in which the micro-
scale is letters it consists (reductionism) and the macro-scale is the
sentence in which it might fit (productionism or synductionism).
At the next level up the scale the sentence would become the "meso-
scale" with words being micro-scale in which the sentence consists
(reductionism) and a paragraph would be a macro-scale, where a
sentence is a part (productionism or synductionism).
------------------------------
If a morpheme is the smallest language unit that carries a semantic
interpretation I am wondering what the morpheme_root "duction" means.
The root is the primary lexical unit of a word, which carries the most
significant aspects of semantic content and cannot be reduced into
smaller constituents.
Duction: The act of leading, bringing, or conducting.
re: backa, gain, repeatedly
meso: middle
syn: together, united, at the same time
Making this up today but I need the meaning of the ;
re-duction-ism
meso-duction-ism
syn-duction-ism
micro-analysis
meso-analysis
macro-analysis
super-structure
root-structure
sub-structure
Why hasn't this awesome perspective elaborated in current metaphysics?
http://www.virtualsalt.com/roots.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prefixes_in_the_English_language
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morpheme
http://xrefer.com/entry/462106
http://xrefer.com/entry.jsp?xrefid=610070
http://xrefer.com/entry.jsp?xrefid=609978

--
Laurent

.
User: "Laurent"

Title: Re: Holistic Awareness* 06 Jan 2008 06:41:36 PM
On Jan 6, 7:00 pm, Immortalist <reanimater_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Perception is a very old natural function inherent to all matter, not
some exclusive human ability. Particles in spacetime perceive, select,
and integrate into their state wave function only that information
which is important or useful to them in their endless quest for
thermal efficiency and equilibrium. Our mind, with all of its mental
waves and accompanying frequencies, became the modern version of that
same holistic awareness function after 14 billion years of information
processing, autopoiesis, and evolution. Wholeness in time and space is
what allowed Nature to evolve.


Wouldn't that be like saying that single words can be sentences and
sentences can be paragraph, or paragraphs are like a single letter,
this in the necessary hierarchy of grammatical syntactical
organization needed to produce meaning?

Maybe the element of perception are there and some possibly arranged
in ways that are similar to human biological organization.

There are three kinds of "scopes" we can look through at one time and
one scale of observation;

Microscope
Mesoscope
Macroscope

Pretext: will become "mico-scale"
Text: will become "root-scale" or "middle-scale"
Context: will become "macr-scale"

THREE SCALES:

(-1) - Micro-scale: A prefix denoting very small size; e.g.
microgamete, micronucleus.

( 0) - Meso-scale: In meteorology, describing systems, or patterns of
systems between small and synoptic [The term means 'simultaneous']
scale; dimensions of between about 10 and 100 km across, in the
horizontal, have been suggested.

(+1) - Macro-scale: Large-scale. Thus, a macroclimate is the general
climate of a region extending across several hundred kilometres, such
as the Great Plains of North America, macrometeorology is the study of
large scale meteorological phenomena which can cover hundreds of
kilometres or may encompass the whole globe, from monsoons to the
general circulation of the atmosphere, and macro-economics is the
study of an economy as a whole.

Shifting focus upon different "scales" (attention to one area of a
hierarchy) can be illustrated with an analogy from grammatical
stucture and hierarchy. [In music theory a scale is those notes within
a group that don't repeat the same tone at a higher of lower octives.
When the same note is reached in a different scale of a higher or
lower pitch then it is another octive. (you can ignore this part)]

If we focus upon a word it becomes the "meso-scale" in which the micro-
scale is letters it consists (reductionism) and the macro-scale is the
sentence in which it might fit (productionism or synductionism).

At the next level up the scale the sentence would become the "meso-
scale" with words being micro-scale in which the sentence consists
(reductionism) and a paragraph would be a macro-scale, where a
sentence is a part (productionism or synductionism).

------------------------------

If a morpheme is the smallest language unit that carries a semantic
interpretation I am wondering what the morpheme_root "duction" means.

The root is the primary lexical unit of a word, which carries the most
significant aspects of semantic content and cannot be reduced into
smaller constituents.

Duction: The act of leading, bringing, or conducting.

re: backa, gain, repeatedly

meso: middle

syn: together, united, at the same time

Making this up today but I need the meaning of the ;

re-duction-ism
meso-duction-ism
syn-duction-ism

micro-analysis
meso-analysis
macro-analysis

super-structure
root-structure
sub-structure

Why hasn't this awesome perspective elaborated in current metaphysics?

http://www.virtualsalt.com/roots.htmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prefixes_in_the_English_languagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morpheme

http://xrefer.com/entry/462106http://xrefer.com/entry.jsp?xrefid=610070http://xrefer.com/entry.jsp?xrefid=609978

--
Laurent

See Joseph Fourier (Fourier series and transforms). According to him,
you can reverse engineer a whole song by taking apart just one little
passage of the song. Then see about Dennis Gabor on Holography.
--
Laurent
.


User: "John Jones"

Title: Re: Holistic Awareness* 06 Jan 2008 05:52:34 PM
Laurent wrote:

Holistic Awareness


Instead of - " to be is to be perceived " - (consciousness precedes
matter), it should have been - " to be is to perceive " - (matter
precedes consciousness).

Von Neumann was right when he said that the evolution of the
Schroedinger wave depends on quantum mechanical observables, implying
that this information can only come from spacetime. Yet, since the
theory considers brains to be measuring devices, it includes the
observer as an efficacious agent. The only reason human brains entered
the equation was that, as they received light (EMR) coming from the
particle, just like all objects in spacetime do, information about
momentum and location, which is vital to maintain energy conservation
laws, became known to the particle/system, allowing it to complete the
feedback control loop and continue to condense.

According to present day theory the total energy available to the
universe was preset at the moment of its emergence, and Thermodynamics
tell us that each of its parts must register how much energy it's
being used in relation to the whole. Each object that moves in space
must follow the laws of energy conservation. But how else could the
universe 'sense' how much energy is being used by some galaxy 5
billion light years away if it wasn't through momentum space... a non-
material medium from which spacetime emerges as a product of active
information?

As Ernest Mach explained inertia, he came to the conclusion that
energy usage by objects within the universe is instantaneously
reported through momentum space. This is where phenomena like inertia
comes from. Particles 'sense' other particles as they complete the
state information exchange and realize the spatial relationships,
between them and space, required to collapse the state wave packet
from hyperspace, as they crystallize into spacetime. Holistic
perception is an intrinsic function of matter explained by the
aether's oneness, and this function helps Nature to evolve.

The observer, in the present theory, must refer to any object that is
able to interpret environmental information brought to it by EM waves.
Observation with the only purpose of establishing the particle's
spatial parameters (speed, size, mass...) in any given inertial frame.
The particle must first be in thermal equilibrium with the environment
before it can exist as matter in spacetime, that's the law.

So Quantum Mechanics' big mystery was - why do I have to observe the
cat in order for the cat to live or die? And the answer is that our
brains are measuring devices, just like the rest of all matter. We are
the best measuring device that ever emerged from all the information
processing that has transcurred in our neighborhood to this date.
Interactions within a system, like a brain for example, depend on more
than the information it gets through the senses.

Perception is a very old natural function inherent to all matter, not
some exclusive human ability. Particles in spacetime perceive, select,
and integrate into their state wave function only that information
which is important or useful to them in their endless quest for
thermal efficiency and equilibrium. Our mind, with all of its mental
waves and accompanying frequencies, became the modern version of that
same holistic awareness function after 14 billion years of information
processing, autopoiesis, and evolution. Wholeness in time and space is
what allowed Nature to evolve.

--
Laurent

Anything you promote on the idea of 'location' will not clash with
anything I wrote on this same subject in this newsgroup and sci.logic,
nor with the development of the idea of location in my MA thesis, or it
will be your scholastic arse.
.
User: "Laurent"

Title: Re: Holistic Awareness* 06 Jan 2008 06:30:36 PM
On Jan 6, 6:52 pm, John Jones <jonescard...@aol.com> wrote:

Laurent wrote:

Holistic Awareness


Instead of - " to be is to be perceived " - (consciousness precedes
matter), it should have been - " to be is to perceive " - (matter
precedes consciousness).


Von Neumann was right when he said that the evolution of the
Schroedinger wave depends on quantum mechanical observables, implying
that this information can only come from spacetime. Yet, since the
theory considers brains to be measuring devices, it includes the
observer as an efficacious agent. The only reason human brains entered
the equation was that, as they received light (EMR) coming from the
particle, just like all objects in spacetime do, information about
momentum and location, which is vital to maintain energy conservation
laws, became known to the particle/system, allowing it to complete the
feedback control loop and continue to condense.


According to present day theory the total energy available to the
universe was preset at the moment of its emergence, and Thermodynamics
tell us that each of its parts must register how much energy it's
being used in relation to the whole. Each object that moves in space
must follow the laws of energy conservation. But how else could the
universe 'sense' how much energy is being used by some galaxy 5
billion light years away if it wasn't through momentum space... a non-
material medium from which spacetime emerges as a product of active
information?


As Ernest Mach explained inertia, he came to the conclusion that
energy usage by objects within the universe is instantaneously
reported through momentum space. This is where phenomena like inertia
comes from. Particles 'sense' other particles as they complete the
state information exchange and realize the spatial relationships,
between them and space, required to collapse the state wave packet
from hyperspace, as they crystallize into spacetime. Holistic
perception is an intrinsic function of matter explained by the
aether's oneness, and this function helps Nature to evolve.


The observer, in the present theory, must refer to any object that is
able to interpret environmental information brought to it by EM waves.
Observation with the only purpose of establishing the particle's
spatial parameters (speed, size, mass...) in any given inertial frame.
The particle must first be in thermal equilibrium with the environment
before it can exist as matter in spacetime, that's the law.


So Quantum Mechanics' big mystery was - why do I have to observe the
cat in order for the cat to live or die? And the answer is that our
brains are measuring devices, just like the rest of all matter. We are
the best measuring device that ever emerged from all the information
processing that has transcurred in our neighborhood to this date.
Interactions within a system, like a brain for example, depend on more
than the information it gets through the senses.


Perception is a very old natural function inherent to all matter, not
some exclusive human ability. Particles in spacetime perceive, select,
and integrate into their state wave function only that information
which is important or useful to them in their endless quest for
thermal efficiency and equilibrium. Our mind, with all of its mental
waves and accompanying frequencies, became the modern version of that
same holistic awareness function after 14 billion years of information
processing, autopoiesis, and evolution. Wholeness in time and space is
what allowed Nature to evolve.


--
Laurent


Anything you promote on the idea of 'location' will not clash with
anything I wrote on this same subject in this newsgroup and sci.logic,
nor with the development of the idea of location in my MA thesis, or it
will be your scholastic arse.

What?
.


User: "Michael Gordge"

Title: Re: Holistic Awareness* 08 Jan 2008 04:19:32 PM
On Jan 7, 8:26=A0am, Laurent <cyberd...@gmail.com> wrote:

Holistic Awareness

Instead of - " to be is to be perceived " - (consciousness precedes
matter), it should have been - " to be is to perceive " - (matter
precedes consciousness).

Much simpler.
Consciousness presupposes some thing existing to be conscious of.
Existence cant be denied without contradiction, without first
accepting there is some thing existing to deny, therefore the things
MUST be identified. e.g.
as
real or imagined
right or wrong
good or evil
And if things are to be good in reality, then they cant be imagined as
good, therefore man must identify a standard in reality that good is
masured against, I digress.
The primacy is therefore existence and ideas exist as things to be
conscious of, especially those god ideas exist.
And the evidence is over-whelming, man treats them with anything but
scourn ridicule and concempt at his peril. eh Laurie?
Oh come on Laurie, she wasn't a virgin, laugh.
Michael Gordge
.
User: "brian fletcher"

Title: Re: Holistic Awareness* 11 Jan 2008 09:36:57 AM
"Michael Gordge" <mikegordge@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:636ca196-5eb4-432d-ba6e-6dcf6e34f7dd@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 7, 8:26 am, Laurent <cyberd...@gmail.com> wrote:

Holistic Awareness

Instead of - " to be is to be perceived " - (consciousness precedes
matter), it should have been - " to be is to perceive " - (matter
precedes consciousness).

Much simpler.
Consciousness presupposes some thing existing to be conscious of.
Existence cant be denied without contradiction, without first
accepting there is some thing existing to deny, therefore the things
MUST be identified. e.g.
as
real or imagined
right or wrong
good or evil
And if things are to be good in reality, then they cant be imagined as
good, therefore man must identify a standard in reality that good is
masured against, I digress.
The primacy is therefore existence and ideas exist as things to be
conscious of, especially those god ideas exist.
And the evidence is over-whelming, man treats them with anything but
scourn ridicule and concempt at his peril. eh Laurie?
Oh come on Laurie, she wasn't a virgin, laugh.
Michael Gordge
That was great Mike...but on a point of order. Of course she was a virgin.
BOfL
.



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