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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Don1"
Date: 04 Sep 2005 07:58:09 AM
Object: How Doc's scales work
Approx. principle of weighing with an unequal arm balance,
steelyard, or teeter-totter:
____1#_________________10#______________
^
_____________2#________10#______________
^
_______________ 3#______10#______________
^
________________10#____10#______________
^
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User: "Richard Henry"

Title: Re: How Doc's scales work 04 Sep 2005 09:36:55 AM
"Don1" <dcshead@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1125838689.887333.187260@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...



Approx. principle of weighing with an unequal arm balance,
steelyard, or teeter-totter:

____1#_________________10#______________
^
_____________2#________10#______________
^
_______________ 3#______10#______________
^
________________10#____10#______________
^

What font are you using? Are you using tabs or spaces for blanks?
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User: "Don1"

Title: Re: How Doc's scales work 04 Sep 2005 03:16:59 PM
Richard Henry wrote:

"Don1" <dcshead@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1125838689.887333.187260@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...



Approx. principle of weighing with an unequal arm balance,
steelyard, or teeter-totter:

____1#_________________10#______________
^
_____________2#________10#______________
^
_______________ 3#______10#______________
^
________________10#____10#______________
^


What font are you using? Are you using tabs or spaces for blanks?

Spaces.
Don
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User: "Steve Ralph"

Title: Re: How Doc's scales work 05 Sep 2005 04:53:26 AM
"Don1" <dcshead@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1125838689.887333.187260@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...



Approx. principle of weighing with an unequal arm balance,
steelyard, or teeter-totter:

____1#_________________10#______________
^
_____________2#________10#______________
^
_______________ 3#______10#______________
^
________________10#____10#______________
^

Why has your scale got four arms? Wouldn't one be sufficient?
sr
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User: "Don1"

Title: Re: How Doc's scales work 05 Sep 2005 06:34:27 AM
Steve Ralph wrote:

"Don1" <dcshead@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1125838689.887333.187260@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...



Approx. principle of weighing with an unequal arm balance,
steelyard, or teeter-totter:

____1#_________________10#______________
^
_____________2#________10#______________
^
_______________ 3#______10#______________
^
________________10#____10#______________
^

Why has your scale got four arms? Wouldn't one be sufficient?

sr

My diagram is strictly for the birds Stevie.
See<http://collections.gc.ca/generalstore/measures/answer1a.asp>
Don
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User: "Steve Ralph"

Title: Re: How Doc's scales work 05 Sep 2005 11:13:44 AM
"Don1" <dcshead@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1125920067.635232.286720@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Steve Ralph wrote:

"Don1" <dcshead@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1125838689.887333.187260@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...



Approx. principle of weighing with an unequal arm balance,
steelyard, or teeter-totter:

____1#_________________10#______________
^
_____________2#________10#______________
^
_______________ 3#______10#______________
^
________________10#____10#______________
^

Why has your scale got four arms? Wouldn't one be sufficient?

sr


My diagram is strictly for the birds Stevie.

I can see that, but how are the birds calibrated?
sr

See<http://collections.gc.ca/generalstore/measures/answer1a.asp>

Don


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User: "Jumbie"

Title: Re: How Doc's scales work 04 Sep 2005 08:09:23 AM
"Don1" <dcshead@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1125838689.887333.187260@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...



Approx. principle of weighing with an unequal arm balance,
steelyard, or teeter-totter:

____1#_________________10#______________
^
_____________2#________10#______________
^
_______________ 3#______10#______________
^
________________10#____10#______________
^

I have scales that weigh mass, as gravity is canceled out on both sides, by
balancing.
.
User: "Don1"

Title: Re: How Doc's scales work 04 Sep 2005 04:58:13 PM
Jumbie wrote:

"Don1" <dcshead@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1125838689.887333.187260@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...



Approx. principle of weighing with an unequal arm balance,
steelyard, or teeter-totter:

____1#_________________10#______________
^
_____________2#________10#______________
^
_______________ 3#______10#______________
^
________________10#____10#______________
^


Perhaps (?) this is clearer:
[]_<Fixed counterweight_________o<Movable weight
^ <Fulcrum lever arm
Don
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User: ""

Title: Re: How Doc's scales work 06 Sep 2005 07:22:22 AM
In article <1125871093.109136.213140@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Don1" <dcshead@charter.net> writes:

Jumbie wrote:

"Don1" <dcshead@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1125838689.887333.187260@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...



Approx. principle of weighing with an unequal arm balance,
steelyard, or teeter-totter:

____1#_________________10#______________
^
_____________2#________10#______________
^
_______________ 3#______10#______________
^
________________10#____10#______________
^


Perhaps (?) this is clearer:

You misunderstand the problem.

____1#_________________10#______________

Five leading blanks.
Four underscores
"1#"
Seventeen more underscores
"10#"
Fourteen more underscores
That's a total of 45 characters denoting the beam and loads.

^

Fifty-one leading blanks
"^"
That's a total of 52 characters denoting the fulcrum.
You have the fulcrum out past the right end of the beam.
When creating or viewing ASCII art, a fixed pitch font is normally
regarded as essential. When using variable pitch fonts, blanks are
usually much narrower than visible characters. I use a fixed pitch
font on my newsreader. So I see your gibberish as gibberish.
John Briggs
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User: "Don1"

Title: Re: How Doc's scales work 04 Sep 2005 08:22:00 AM
Jumbie wrote:

"Don1" <dcshead@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1125838689.887333.187260@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...



Approx. principle of weighing with an unequal arm balance,
steelyard, or teeter-totter:

____1#_________________10#______________
^
_____________2#________10#______________
^
_______________ 3#______10#______________
^
________________10#____10#______________
^


I have scales that weigh mass, as gravity is canceled out on both sides, by
balancing.

What you have my boy is an equal arm balance; which compares two
masses, and will balance if they are equivalent in weight.
Don
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User: ""

Title: Re: How Doc's scales work 04 Sep 2005 08:37:36 AM
Don1 wrote:

Jumbie wrote:


I have scales that weigh mass, as gravity is canceled out on both sides, by
balancing.


What you have my boy is an equal arm balance; which compares two
masses, and will balance if they are equivalent in weight.

Don

And what <<you>> have, Don, is an unequal arm balance, which compares
two masses and lever arms, and will balance when the torques are equal
in size and opposite in direction. Once balanced at one location, it
will remain balanced at any other location, on Earth, the Moon, Mars,
etc...
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User: "Jumbie"

Title: Re: How Doc's scales work 04 Sep 2005 09:56:29 AM
<jmorriss@idirect.com> wrote in message
news:1125841056.232729.120470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...


Don1 wrote:

Jumbie wrote:



I have scales that weigh mass, as gravity is canceled out on both
sides, by
balancing.


What you have my boy is an equal arm balance; which compares two
masses, and will balance if they are equivalent in weight.

Don


And what <<you>> have, Don, is an unequal arm balance, which compares
two masses and lever arms, and will balance when the torques are equal
in size and opposite in direction. Once balanced at one location, it
will remain balanced at any other location, on Earth, the Moon, Mars,
etc...

But not in zero gravity, like in outer space, or when falling.
.
User: "Timothy Little"

Title: Re: How Doc's scales work 04 Sep 2005 05:07:23 PM
Jumbie wrote:


<jmorriss@idirect.com> wrote in message

Once balanced at one location, it will remain balanced at any other
location, on Earth, the Moon, Mars, etc...


But not in zero gravity, like in outer space, or when falling.

Sure it will remain balanced unless you give it a nudge: 0 = 0. It
just isn't very useful, because it would also be balanced with any
other combination of masses and distances.
- Tim
.





User: "odin"

Title: Re: How Doc's scales work 04 Sep 2005 03:33:36 PM

Approx. principle of weighing with an unequal arm balance,
steelyard, or teeter-totter:

____1#_________________10#______________
^
_____________2#________10#______________

What is your point? BTW, do you drool much?
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User: "Don1"

Title: Re: How Doc's scales work 04 Sep 2005 04:37:20 PM
odin wrote:

Approx. principle of weighing with an unequal arm balance,
steelyard, or teeter-totter:

____1#_________________10#______________
^
_____________2#________10#______________
^
_______________ 3#______10#______________
^
________________10#____10#______________
^


What is your point? BTW, do you drool much?

Duh huh(;^!
.



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