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"Radium" |
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07 Sep 2006 05:44:20 PM |
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How to cause uranium-uranium fusion? |
Hi:
I wonder how much temperature and pressure would be required to fuse
one uranium atom with another uranium atom.
Well, its hard enough to fuse deuterium and tritium. D-T fusion
requires at least 10 million celsius and many billions of atmopheres.
I guess that Uranium-Uranium fusion -- if at all possible -- would
require a pressure of at least
10^1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atmospheres and a
temperature of at least
10^1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
degrees Celsius.
Regards,
Radium
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08 Sep 2006 11:26:58 PM |
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"Radium" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote in
news:1157669060.607753.125380@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Hi:
I wonder how much temperature and pressure would be required to fuse
one uranium atom with another uranium atom.
Well, dropping it onto a neutron star would probably work, sort of....
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Dave Oldridge+
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11 Sep 2006 03:59:59 AM |
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If you want to make a superheavy nucleus:
238+238, 92+92 = 476, 184
then that is how to do it, the species would probably exist long enough for
a spectrum to be measured but its formation would consume energy and it
would decay into probably many bit and peices, such as Fe, + ..
It would be of acedemic interest only, no good for making star ships with.
We could ask CERN to build a super heavy nuclie accelerator and bang U 238
nuclei into a U 238 target, but it would cost bit.
The've got the time, have you got the money?
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Golden Helmet
IQ 83
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Radium" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote in
news:1157669060.607753.125380@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Hi:
I wonder how much temperature and pressure would be required to fuse
one uranium atom with another uranium atom.
Well, dropping it onto a neutron star would probably work, sort of....
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
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11 Sep 2006 10:58:20 AM |
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"Golden Helmet" <me@myself.com> wrote in
news:jA9Ng.21274$89.17800@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
If you want to make a superheavy nucleus:
238+238, 92+92 = 476, 184
then that is how to do it, the species would probably exist long
enough for a spectrum to be measured but its formation would consume
energy and it would decay into probably many bit and peices, such as
Fe, + ..
It would be of acedemic interest only, no good for making star ships
with.
We could ask CERN to build a super heavy nuclie accelerator and bang
U 238 nuclei into a U 238 target, but it would cost bit.
The've got the time, have you got the money?
Actually, dropping it on a neutron star would probably just result in it
becoming more neutronium.
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Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
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11 Sep 2006 12:14:54 PM |
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Prove neutronium to be real: I do not believe it as I invented it to hide
our LGM navigation beacons. That was at RSRS three of decades ago.
Pulsars indeed! Our highest engineering project, we always know where we are
to within a couple of meters.
Nice lady the LGM girl at Oxford radio astronomy unit, if she has escaped
the catholic execution squads.
Chat to the Pope about it!
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Golden Helmet
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Golden Helmet" <me@myself.com> wrote in
news:jA9Ng.21274$89.17800@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
If you want to make a superheavy nucleus:
238+238, 92+92 = 476, 184
then that is how to do it, the species would probably exist long
enough for a spectrum to be measured but its formation would consume
energy and it would decay into probably many bit and peices, such as
Fe, + ..
It would be of acedemic interest only, no good for making star ships
with.
We could ask CERN to build a super heavy nuclie accelerator and bang
U 238 nuclei into a U 238 target, but it would cost bit.
The've got the time, have you got the money?
Actually, dropping it on a neutron star would probably just result in it
becoming more neutronium.
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Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
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11 Sep 2006 04:08:11 PM |
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"Golden Helmet" <me@myself.com> wrote in
news:iQgNg.41532$H03.40778@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
Prove neutronium to be real: I do not believe it as I invented it to
hide our LGM navigation beacons. That was at RSRS three of decades
ago.
Defined as the stuff of neutron stars, it's quite real. But you did not
invent it. God did.
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Dave Oldridge+
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12 Sep 2006 01:27:47 AM |
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Neutron stars cannot exist, the stuck photon matter waves intefere and
radiate away in millionths of a second.
Try a bit of quantum mechanics on stuck photons (particles) and if the get
to that gravity level they destabilise and become unstuck.
--
Golden Helmet
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns983B8FCBF23doldridgsprintca@64.59.135.159...
"Golden Helmet" <me@myself.com> wrote in
news:iQgNg.41532$H03.40778@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
Prove neutronium to be real: I do not believe it as I invented it to
hide our LGM navigation beacons. That was at RSRS three of decades
ago.
Defined as the stuff of neutron stars, it's quite real. But you did not
invent it. God did.
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Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
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12 Sep 2006 07:48:08 AM |
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"Golden Helmet" <me@myself.com> wrote in
news:DrsNg.43551$a9.30697@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
Neutron stars cannot exist, the stuck photon matter waves intefere and
radiate away in millionths of a second.
Try a bit of quantum mechanics on stuck photons (particles) and if the
get to that gravity level they destabilise and become unstuck.
You need to explain this to a whole bunch of astrophysicists who think they
are seeing such objects.
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Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
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12 Sep 2006 09:25:09 AM |
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Dave Oldridge wrote:
"Golden Helmet" <me@myself.com> wrote in
news:DrsNg.43551$a9.30697@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
Neutron stars cannot exist, the stuck photon matter waves intefere and
radiate away in millionths of a second.
Try a bit of quantum mechanics on stuck photons (particles) and if the
get to that gravity level they destabilise and become unstuck.
You need to explain this to a whole bunch of astrophysicists who think they
are seeing such objects.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667--------
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in addition
Gp;den Helmet lives in a world of illusion that QM can solve and
predict anything in universe!!
QM is just a machine of wich waht you put in it that is waht you get
**not a bit more **
yet with all its abstract base
it cannot predict something that was not planted in it by experimental
knowlwdge
for instance
if the fucken ** knowlwdge** is that a neutron star is built only for
Neutrons
you will never get the real results and *understandings*
if in reality for instance
there are not only neutrons but protons as well that lost some of their
'assets '
to far for parrots to understand it
so they will keep on bashing in the mudd of darkness
ATB
Y.Porat
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12 Sep 2006 02:48:23 PM |
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Can anyone tell me the structure of a Neutron? What are Neutrons made off?
Does a neutron have a quadrupole moment or a dipole?
In reality it is a stuck photon with two lobes + and -. the + lobe has the
electric field outwards and the - lobe has the field lines pointing inward.
It spins along the + - axis, and each lobe is also spinning antisymetrically
but because it is stuck it don't move.
Now if they get too close the + connects with the - in a giant lattice but
the neutrons and the photons unwind, the neutrons cease to exist and four
high energy photons radiate away.
This takes place spontaneousely with neutron collisions and the the gamma
ray photons are emitted.
Our beacons are active all over the galaxy and have the time of emission
their galactic trajectory written into the pulse.
So our craft pick up the signals and can compute their exact position in all
four dimensions.
The pulsars are our beacons.
--
Golden Helmet
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
news:1158071109.553631.208910@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Dave Oldridge wrote:
"Golden Helmet" <me@myself.com> wrote in
news:DrsNg.43551$a9.30697@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
Neutron stars cannot exist, the stuck photon matter waves intefere and
radiate away in millionths of a second.
Try a bit of quantum mechanics on stuck photons (particles) and if the
get to that gravity level they destabilise and become unstuck.
You need to explain this to a whole bunch of astrophysicists who think
they
are seeing such objects.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667--------
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in addition
Gp;den Helmet lives in a world of illusion that QM can solve and
predict anything in universe!!
QM is just a machine of wich waht you put in it that is waht you get
**not a bit more **
yet with all its abstract base
it cannot predict something that was not planted in it by experimental
knowlwdge
for instance
if the fucken ** knowlwdge** is that a neutron star is built only for
Neutrons
you will never get the real results and *understandings*
if in reality for instance
there are not only neutrons but protons as well that lost some of their
'assets '
to far for parrots to understand it
so they will keep on bashing in the mudd of darkness
ATB
Y.Porat
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12 Sep 2006 03:06:48 PM |
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Then of course there's the well-known "fig neutron", which has a dry
outside, with sticky sweet stuff in the middle.
Oh, never mind....
Eric Lucas
"Golden Helmet" <me@myself.com> wrote in message
news:baENg.31331$89.20693@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
Can anyone tell me the structure of a Neutron? What are Neutrons made off?
Does a neutron have a quadrupole moment or a dipole?
In reality it is a stuck photon with two lobes + and -. the + lobe has the
electric field outwards and the - lobe has the field lines pointing
inward.
It spins along the + - axis, and each lobe is also spinning
antisymetrically but because it is stuck it don't move.
Now if they get too close the + connects with the - in a giant lattice but
the neutrons and the photons unwind, the neutrons cease to exist and four
high energy photons radiate away.
This takes place spontaneousely with neutron collisions and the the gamma
ray photons are emitted.
Our beacons are active all over the galaxy and have the time of emission
their galactic trajectory written into the pulse.
So our craft pick up the signals and can compute their exact position in
all four dimensions.
The pulsars are our beacons.
--
Golden Helmet
"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
news:1158071109.553631.208910@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Dave Oldridge wrote:
"Golden Helmet" <me@myself.com> wrote in
news:DrsNg.43551$a9.30697@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
Neutron stars cannot exist, the stuck photon matter waves intefere and
radiate away in millionths of a second.
Try a bit of quantum mechanics on stuck photons (particles) and if the
get to that gravity level they destabilise and become unstuck.
You need to explain this to a whole bunch of astrophysicists who think
they
are seeing such objects.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667--------
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in addition
Gp;den Helmet lives in a world of illusion that QM can solve and
predict anything in universe!!
QM is just a machine of wich waht you put in it that is waht you get
**not a bit more **
yet with all its abstract base
it cannot predict something that was not planted in it by experimental
knowlwdge
for instance
if the fucken ** knowlwdge** is that a neutron star is built only for
Neutrons
you will never get the real results and *understandings*
if in reality for instance
there are not only neutrons but protons as well that lost some of their
'assets '
to far for parrots to understand it
so they will keep on bashing in the mudd of darkness
ATB
Y.Porat
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13 Sep 2006 01:00:20 AM |
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wrote:
Then of course there's the well-known "fig neutron", which has a dry
outside, with sticky sweet stuff in the middle.
Oh, never mind....
Eric Lucas
"Golden Helmet" <me@myself.com> wrote in message
news:baENg.31331$89.20693@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
Can anyone tell me the structure of a Neutron? What are Neutrons made off?
Does a neutron have a quadrupole moment or a dipole?
In reality it is a stuck photon with two lobes + and -. the + lobe has the
electric field outwards and the - lobe has the field lines pointing
inward.
It spins along the + - axis, and each lobe is also spinning
antisymetrically but because it is stuck it don't move.
Now if they get too close the + connects with the - in a giant lattice but
the neutrons and the photons unwind, the neutrons cease to exist and four
high energy photons radiate away.
This takes place spontaneousely with neutron collisions and the the gamma
ray photons are emitted.
Our beacons are active all over the galaxy and have the time of emission
their galactic trajectory written into the pulse.
So our craft pick up the signals and can compute their exact position in
all four dimensions.
The pulsars are our beacons.
--
Golden Helmet
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do you waht to know th ebitter throuth??
no one knowes a ***** about waht realy is the structure of
neutrons and Protons
th estory about just 3 quarks is a nice fairy tale
the experiments show that the mass of 3 quarks is only about less than
10percent of the mass of the neotron
the rest is the kcooked shamless story about
;gluons that are 90 percent of it
now since people got it at last in their blockheards
that there is no reletivistic mas but just one kind of mass
the 3 quark story should be retired
we know less than 10 percent of the neotron (protonj ) structure
***and the sonner to internalise it - the better ***
ATB
Y.Porat
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"Y.Porat" <maporat@012.net.il> wrote in message
news:1158071109.553631.208910@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Dave Oldridge wrote:
"Golden Helmet" <me@myself.com> wrote in
news:DrsNg.43551$a9.30697@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
Neutron stars cannot exist, the stuck photon matter waves intefere and
radiate away in millionths of a second.
Try a bit of quantum mechanics on stuck photons (particles) and if the
get to that gravity level they destabilise and become unstuck.
You need to explain this to a whole bunch of astrophysicists who think
they
are seeing such objects.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667--------
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in addition
Gp;den Helmet lives in a world of illusion that QM can solve and
predict anything in universe!!
QM is just a machine of wich waht you put in it that is waht you get
**not a bit more **
yet with all its abstract base
it cannot predict something that was not planted in it by experimental
knowlwdge
for instance
if the fucken ** knowlwdge** is that a neutron star is built only for
Neutrons
you will never get the real results and *understandings*
if in reality for instance
there are not only neutrons but protons as well that lost some of their
'assets '
to far for parrots to understand it
so they will keep on bashing in the mudd of darkness
ATB
Y.Porat
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13 Sep 2006 06:11:44 AM |
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Y=2EPorat wrote:
th estory about just 3 quarks is a nice fairy tale
You are.
the experiments show that the mass of 3 quarks is only about less than
10percent of the mass of the neotron
the rest is the kcooked shamless story about
;gluons that are 90 percent of it
now since people got it at last in their blockheards
that there is no reletivistic mas but just one kind of mass
the 3 quark story should be retired
Gluons /are of/ quarks inasmuch as fot=F2ns are of el=E8ctr=F2ns, but
nuclear forces are stronger so most of the mass is bysy, a'flitting in
the field. You're a retard.
-Aut
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13 Sep 2006 06:53:56 AM |
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Autymn D. C. wrote:
Y.Porat wrote:
th estory about just 3 quarks is a nice fairy tale
You are.
the experiments show that the mass of 3 quarks is only about less than
10percent of the mass of the neotron
the rest is the kcooked shamless story about
;gluons that are 90 percent of it
now since people got it at last in their blockheards
that there is no reletivistic mas but just one kind of mass
the 3 quark story should be retired
Gluons /are of/ quarks inasmuch as fot=F2ns are of el=E8ctr=F2ns, but
nuclear forces are stronger so most of the mass is bysy, a'flitting in
the field. You're a retard.
-Aut
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Hi shitty
where have you been so long!!
lust think about the impertinance
a shity is mising for a long time
just a new by
and here we are
rude as a goon
you ar enot a woman you are an imposter
no woman would behave like that
got it nazi imposter?
wah tis your real name *****
if all th equarks are only 10 percent of the mass
than 90 percent is ukknown!1
have you ***** head heared that there is no relativistic mass
there is only your relativistic nazi *****
now common Gisse
a 22 years student student
and take off your shiity mask off
we can smell you from thousands of miles
now that eevry one knows yiou are a 22 years ***** student
so you decided to change your fucen identity
so go do your homework dont sit all day next to the computer like
a bump parasite
and get a degree of physaics
disturbed imbecil
and let anyone know:
Authy =3D Gisse
thesame Nazi *****=20
Y=2EP
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14 Sep 2006 09:07:03 AM |
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Y.Porat wrote:
Hi shitty
where have you been so long!!
lust think about the impertinance
a shity is mising for a long time
Shitty is one of your fairytales.
just a new by
and here we are
rude as a goon
you ar enot a woman you are an imposter
no woman would behave like that
got it nazi imposter?
wah tis your real name *****
would behave like what? treat deluded retards like deluded retards?
I'm neither a nationalist nor a socialist. Look up my About.com
profile, retard.
if all th equarks are only 10 percent of the mass
than 90 percent is ukknown!1
They're all quarks.
have you ***** head heared that there is no relativistic mass
there is only your relativistic nazi *****
I hear many pseudointellectual gibbers.
now common Gisse
a 22 years student student
and take off your shiity mask off
we can smell you from thousands of miles
now that eevry one knows yiou are a 22 years ***** student
I don't know who Gisse is, but I'm older.
so you decided to change your fucen identity
so go do your homework dont sit all day next to the computer like
a bump parasite
and get a degree of physaics
disturbed imbecil
and let anyone know:
Authy = Gisse
thesame Nazi *****
= Porat
You earlier calld me the same person as Uncle Al. Methinks you're a
senile retard.
-Aut
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14 Sep 2006 11:53:10 AM |
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Autymn D. C. wrote:
Y.Porat wrote:
Hi shitty
where have you been so long!!
lust think about the impertinance
a shity is mising for a long time
Shitty is one of your fairytales.
just a new by
and here we are
rude as a goon
you ar enot a woman you are an imposter
no woman would behave like that
got it nazi imposter?
wah tis your real name *****
would behave like what? treat deluded retards like deluded retards?
I'm neither a nationalist nor a socialist. Look up my About.com
profile, retard.
if all th equarks are only 10 percent of the mass
than 90 percent is ukknown!1
They're all quarks.
have you ***** head heared that there is no relativistic mass
there is only your relativistic nazi *****
I hear many pseudointellectual gibbers.
now common Gisse
a 22 years student student
and take off your shiity mask off
we can smell you from thousands of miles
now that eevry one knows yiou are a 22 years ***** student
I don't know who Gisse is, but I'm older.
so you decided to change your fucen identity
so go do your homework dont sit all day next to the computer like
a bump parasite
and get a degree of physaics
disturbed imbecil
and let anyone know:
Authy = Gisse
thesame Nazi *****
= Porat
You earlier calld me the same person as Uncle Al. Methinks you're a
senile retard.
-Aut
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-let every one know
you are a 22 years old student and a male not a woman
no woman would behave like a nazi ***** as you !!
you are the disturbed Eric Gisse
no one can miss you
Bye
nazi disturbed ***** go do uour homewrk
your parents are paying for you little parasite
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Y.P
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14 Sep 2006 04:25:37 PM |
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Then of course there's the well-known "fig neutron", which has a dry
outside, with sticky sweet stuff in the middle.
Oh, never mind....
Eric Lucas
Sounds very closely related to the jimmy neutron =:-0
Cary
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08 Sep 2006 11:00:20 PM |
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In sci.physics, Radium
<glucegen1@excite.com>
wrote
on 7 Sep 2006 15:44:20 -0700
<1157669060.607753.125380@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Hi:
I wonder how much temperature and pressure would be required to fuse
one uranium atom with another uranium atom.
Ah. Lemme guess. You're trying to invent pergium, a power
source postulated in an old Star Trek Episode (right next
to Si-based life forms which can tunnel through solid rock
by secreting magic acid).
Good luck. You'll need it. *LOTS* of it.
Well, its hard enough to fuse deuterium and tritium. D-T fusion
requires at least 10 million celsius and many billions of atmopheres.
I guess that Uranium-Uranium fusion -- if at all possible -- would
require a pressure of at least
10^1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atmospheres and a
temperature of at least
10^1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
degrees Celsius.
And the reason for these particular numbers is precisely ... what?
Did you base these on barn cross sections, experimental evidence,
or hand-waving?
Regards,
Radium
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#191,
Windows Vista. Because it's time to refresh your hardware. Trust us.
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08 Sep 2006 04:03:41 PM |
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Radium wrote:
Hi:
I wonder how much temperature and pressure would be required to fuse
one uranium atom with another uranium atom.
Well, its hard enough to fuse deuterium and tritium. D-T fusion
requires at least 10 million celsius and many billions of atmopheres.
I guess that Uranium-Uranium fusion -- if at all possible -- would
require a pressure of at least
10^1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atmospheres and a
temperature of at least
10^1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
degrees Celsius.
Regards,
Radium
Ah, I see. So "Probably a really big number" translates into "Let's
just write down an impressive looking numbers with lots and lots of
zeros."
You might just as well have said "a pressure of at least a zillion
atmospheres and a temperature of at least a bazillion degrees Celsius."
I guess it just looks more official if you write down a number in
scientific notation than it does to say "a whole bunch."
PD
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| Title: Re: How to cause uranium-uranium fusion? |
14 Sep 2006 01:55:34 AM |
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Radium wrote:
Hi:
I wonder how much temperature and pressure would be required to fuse
one uranium atom with another uranium atom.
Well, its hard enough to fuse deuterium and tritium. D-T fusion
requires at least 10 million celsius and many billions of atmopheres.
I guess that Uranium-Uranium fusion -- if at all possible -- would
require a pressure of at least
10^1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atmospheres and a
temperature of at least
10^1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
degrees Celsius.
Regards,
Radium
Why FUSE uranium? If this is supposed to be an energy source it
just won't work. Fusing uranium would suck up more energy than
you get out. It's immutable physical law.
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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| Title: Re: How to cause uranium-uranium fusion? |
14 Sep 2006 03:57:46 AM |
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wrote:
Radium wrote:
Hi:
I wonder how much temperature and pressure would be required to fuse
one uranium atom with another uranium atom.
Regards,
Radium
Why FUSE uranium? If this is supposed to be an energy source it
just won't work. Fusing uranium would suck up more energy than
you get out. It's immutable physical law.
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and in addition to the above
please dont forget that
any Ureanium process is terribly polutive !!!
which we cant say about the fusion process by hysdrogen
that we have to take it as a final goal
ATB
Y.Porat
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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| Title: Re: How to cause uranium-uranium fusion? |
07 Sep 2006 06:13:31 PM |
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Radium wrote:
Hi:
[snip dumbness]
Don't post crap in here again until you graduate from highschool.
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| User: "Radium" |
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| Title: Re: How to cause uranium-uranium fusion? |
07 Sep 2006 06:56:40 PM |
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Eric Gisse wrote:
Radium wrote:
Hi:
[snip dumbness]
Don't post crap in here again until you graduate from highschool.
I was just posting my assumption as to how much heat and pressure would
be needed to fuse uranium with more uranium.
Elements heavier than iron can only be fused with EXTREME temperatures
and pressures such as those generated by supernovae.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: How to cause uranium-uranium fusion? |
14 Sep 2006 01:56:32 AM |
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Radium wrote:
Eric Gisse wrote:
Radium wrote:
Hi:
[snip dumbness]
Don't post crap in here again until you graduate from highschool.
I was just posting my assumption as to how much heat and pressure would
be needed to fuse uranium with more uranium.
Elements heavier than iron can only be fused with EXTREME temperatures
and pressures such as those generated by supernovae.
Why bother anyway? It's useless as an energy source, it's an energy
_sink_.
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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| Title: Re: How to cause uranium-uranium fusion? |
07 Sep 2006 08:18:06 PM |
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Radium wrote:
Eric Gisse wrote:
Radium wrote:
Hi:
[snip dumbness]
Don't post crap in here again until you graduate from highschool.
I was just posting my assumption as to how much heat and pressure would
be needed to fuse uranium with more uranium.
Yea right.
Lets hear about the chain of logic that makes you think U-U fusion
[which U? there are a few] requires 10^30 atomspheres of pressure and a
temperature of 10^78 C?
You will be shredding the nuclei into their constituent protons and
neutrons and then quarks in short order with many orders of magnitude
to spare.
Stop posting uneducated crap to sci.physics, we have enough of those
morons already.
Elements heavier than iron can only be fused with EXTREME temperatures
and pressures such as those generated by supernovae.
Yea, and since when do supernovae have the energy to reach out and
touch Planck scale energies?
This is more of the same crap from you. It is the same line of thinking
as the "fusion pumped laser". If you want to learn about physics, go to
a library and pick up an introductory physics book and start reading.
Mabey even work a few problems.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: How to cause uranium-uranium fusion? |
08 Sep 2006 09:09:00 AM |
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"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157678286.904461.97590@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Radium wrote:
Eric Gisse wrote:
Radium wrote:
Hi:
[snip dumbness]
Don't post crap in here again until you graduate from highschool.
I was just posting my assumption as to how much heat and pressure would
be needed to fuse uranium with more uranium.
Yea right.
Lets hear about the chain of logic that makes you think U-U fusion
[which U? there are a few] requires 10^30 atomspheres of pressure and a
temperature of 10^78 C?
You need to read more carefully. He said 10^(10^30) atmospheres, and
10^(10^78) C.
Eric Lucas
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| User: "Radium" |
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| Title: Re: How to cause uranium-uranium fusion? |
07 Sep 2006 10:17:18 PM |
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Eric Gisse wrote:
Radium wrote:
Eric Gisse wrote:
Radium wrote:
Hi:
[snip dumbness]
Don't post crap in here again until you graduate from highschool.
I was just posting my assumption as to how much heat and pressure would
be needed to fuse uranium with more uranium.
Yea right.
Lets hear about the chain of logic that makes you think U-U fusion
[which U? there are a few] requires 10^30 atomspheres of pressure and a
temperature of 10^78 C?
Is was a *very* rough estimate. Its just that uranium is such a heavy
element I assumed it would required LOTS of energy to fuse.
You will be shredding the nuclei into their constituent protons and
neutrons and then quarks in short order with many orders of magnitude
to spare.
The "shredding of nuclei into their constituent protons and neutrons"
classifies as fission. Right?
Stop posting uneducated crap to sci.physics, we have enough of those
morons already.
Elements heavier than iron can only be fused with EXTREME temperatures
and pressures such as those generated by supernovae.
Yea, and since when do supernovae have the energy to reach out and
touch Planck scale energies?
10 to the power
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
is WAY beyond Planck scale energies.
This is more of the same crap from you. It is the same line of thinking
as the "fusion pumped laser". If you want to learn about physics, go to
a library and pick up an introductory physics book and start reading.
Mabey even work a few problems.
Okay.
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| User: "Madalch" |
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| Title: Re: How to cause uranium-uranium fusion? |
08 Sep 2006 02:02:34 PM |
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Radium wrote:
10 to the power
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
is WAY beyond Planck scale energies.
At a temperature of about 10^13 C, neutrons would be moving at
relativistic speeds (assuming ideal gas behavior, which I'll admit is a
stretch, but I haven't seen an ideal plasma law lately). I doubt that
atomic nuclei would continue to exist at such temperatures.
The temperature you have "estimated" is not one that would be
considered to have any real meaning. Just like most of your posts.
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| User: "Y.Porat" |
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| Title: Re: How to cause uranium-uranium fusion? |
09 Sep 2006 12:58:30 AM |
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Madalch wrote:
Radium wrote:
10 to the power
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
is WAY beyond Planck scale energies.
At a temperature of about 10^13 C, neutrons would be moving at
relativistic speeds (assuming ideal gas behavior, which I'll admit is a
stretch, but I haven't seen an ideal plasma law lately). I doubt that
atomic nuclei would continue to exist at such temperatures.
The temperature you have "estimated" is not one that would be
considered to have any real meaning. Just like most of your posts.
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it i sobvious at lear to me
that if we what to immitate nature in useful processes
WE MUST BE MORE CLEAVER THANNATURE
iow we cant afforth the wasting amounts of manure
(actaully as now we are still much mor e ignorants than nature :
see for instance the fusion on the sun .....)
to be more specific:
we cant afford th e huge theprerature or pressures that were
crweating thos elements
we must do it more ECONOMICALLY
and sme news for most of you
WITH SOME BETETR KNOWLEDGS WE CAN DO IT MORE ECONOMICALLY!!
fo rinsatnce if we know that the nuc is niot jsut a porridge of
aprticles
but have a very defint geometric structure
we can use tha tknowledge to make it more economically
for isntance:
th e best way is actually to colide subparticles in the right
*orientation**
if we know that any nuc has its front face
and back face and we know in addition that
IT IS MOSTLY THE FRONT AND BACK FACES OF THE NUC THAT ARE THEACTIVE
PARTS!!
than we can do it for instance
collide it front to front or front to abck etc
see my site quoted above
and get a bit more wiser about it
ATB
Y.Porat
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: How to cause uranium-uranium fusion? |
11 Sep 2006 02:27:26 PM |
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In article <1157995385.667054.83600@q16g2000cwq.googlegroups.com>, "Madalch" <tressure@gmail.com> writes:
Y.Porat wrote:
it i sobvious at lear to me
that if we what to immitate nature in useful processes
WE MUST BE MORE CLEAVER THANNATURE
iow we cant afforth the wasting amounts of manure
(actaully as now we are still much mor e ignorants than nature :
see for instance the fusion on the sun .....)
Amazing. SOmeone who makes less sense than Radium....
There is no known bound to stupidity.
Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: How to cause uranium-uranium fusion? |
12 Sep 2006 12:06:36 AM |
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wrote:
In article <1157995385.667054.83600@q16g2000cwq.googlegroups.com>, "Madalch" <tressure@gmail.com> writes:
Y.Porat wrote:
it i sobvious at lear to me
that if we what to immitate nature in useful processes
WE MUST BE MORE CLEAVER THANNATURE
iow we cant afforth the wasting amounts of manure
(actaully as now we are still much mor e ignorants than nature :
see for instance the fusion on the sun .....)
Amazing. SOmeone who makes less sense than Radium....
There is no known bound to stupidity.
Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
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Hi bump parasite crook
you became an expert for nuclear structre as well???
yoiur dean shold know that he is wasting the university money on a
shamless parasite
that not only doe snot contribut sanything new but
disturbed advance !!
in short
a pain in the neck and a walking damage
if someone has an acces to his boss
i recoment telling him who is realy Meron the assertive moron !!
sitting all day next to the computer doing nothing but disturb
Y.Porat
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