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User: "Pentcho Valev"
Date: 02 Apr 2007 01:51:59 AM
Object: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG
If one is really interested in verifying Einstein's theory, one could
start from the following text written by a fashionable Einsteinian:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html
Tom Roberts: "If the light emitted from a source moving with velocity
v toward the observer has a speed c+kv in the observer's frame.....The
Doppler effect is the observed variation in frequency of a source when
it is observed by a detector that is moving relative to the source.
This effect is most pronounced when the source is moving directly
toward or away from the detector...."
What is the value of k and how is it related to the frequency
variation? Judging from what another fashionable Einsteinian has
admitted, the Michelson-Morley experiment proved that the value k=1 is
correct:
http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00001743/02/Norton.pdf John
Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence
for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost
universally use it as support for the light postulate of special
relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE
WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT
POSTULATE."
But the problem is more complicated. If there had been more honesty in
the relativity cult, the experiment of Michelson-Morley would have led
to two competing interpretations:
1. AS FAR AS THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS CONCERNED, Newton's particle model
of light is correct. The speed of light is variable, c'=c+v, where c
is the speed of photons relative to the light source and v is the
relative speed of the light source and the observer. That is what the
emission theory says; no miracles (time dilation, length contraction
etc.) can be introduced.
2. The speed of light is constant, c'=c, independent of v, the
relative speed of the light source and the observer. In this case
miracles (time dilation, length contraction etc.) are OBLIGATORY -
without them the falsehood of the principle of constancy of the speed
of light (c'=c) would be obvious.
The first interpretation is true, the second wrong, and yet the second
was adopted in 1905. That was the beginning of a wrong science of
course but by no means a sin. The sin started when Einstein implicitly
reintroduced the true principle of variability of the speed of light
(c'=c+v), thereby obtaining correct results (e.g. the gravitational
frequency variation factor), and at the same time conserved the false
principle of constancy of the speed of light plus appended miracles,
thereby destroying the rationality of generations of scientists (see
Chapter 22 in Einstein's "Relativity" for more detail).
Einstein reintroduced the true principle of variability of the speed
of light in 1911 when he showed that the speed of light varied with
the gravitational potential in accordance with the equation
c' = c(1 + V/c^2)
where V is the gravitational potential. One can apply the equivalence
principle as shown in
http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch13.pdf pp.2-4
Note that V=gh=cv. Substitute this in Einstein's 1911 equation and you
obtain c'=c+v. For that reason relativists do not like Einstein's 1911
equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) and often declare it wrong, although in 1960
Pound and Rebka confirmed it implicitly by measuring a frequency
variation
f' = f(1 + V/c^2)
As for the Doppler effect, it would be difficult for relativists to
claim that, although the frequency variation measured by Pound and
Rebka confirmed the principle of variability of the speed of light c'=c
+v, the frequency variation in the slightly different (no
acceleration) Doppler situation would be consistent with the false
principle of constancy of the speed of light c'=c.
Pentcho Valev
.

User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?="

Title: Where is God if time is spatial ? 07 Apr 2007 04:35:41 AM
Hi Pentcho_Valev, The standard meter/second
are just counts of periods from a special maser.
Red/Blue Shift is a miracle ? that's your brain tumor talking.
How we model time, God and aging, affects our health.
Lambda-CDM ( which employs G.R. ) tells us that
the energy of the known Universe is being " spent ".
( i.e. It's becomming " unusable " )
In General Relativity it's obvious that
time is truly a spatial dimension ( static, parochial, immutable ).
It's only _ Pseudo _ randomness that makes it seem otherwise.
The spatial nature of time can easily be seen
in the ( red/blue shiftable ) definition of the SI meter, to wit:
The speed of light is 1.
( i.e. A special maser's period's distance over it's duration )
Indeed, in Planck units, it's a unitless 1... flat out !
Using SI's " standard periods " the speed of light is:
" 299792458^-1 = 30.66 periods / 9.19 gigaperiods ".
Now I ask... Where is God if time is spatial ?
In conversations were the word " God " is mentioned,
I've found that it often means,
" The higher powers that effect our fate. ".
( e.g. The pseudo arrow of time, a.k.a. pseudo entropy )
Also, religious people tend to be more optimistic than sober-minded,
using euphemisms like " Heavenly Father " instead of " Our Fate ".
If Jesus were alive today he'd be nailed to the cross again
by the same gang of law-obsessed, inhumane government stooges.
So I stay " judgement proof ".
.
User: "T Wake"

Title: Re: Where is God if time is spatial ? 07 Apr 2007 05:10:51 PM
"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_7_1_@Cotse.NET...

Hi Pentcho_Valev, The standard meter/second
are just counts of periods from a special maser.
Red/Blue Shift is a miracle ? that's your brain tumor talking.

How we model time, God and aging, affects our health.
Lambda-CDM ( which employs G.R. ) tells us that
the energy of the known Universe is being " spent ".
( i.e. It's becomming " unusable " )

In General Relativity it's obvious that
time is truly a spatial dimension ( static, parochial, immutable ).
It's only _ Pseudo _ randomness that makes it seem otherwise.

The spatial nature of time can easily be seen
in the ( red/blue shiftable ) definition of the SI meter, to wit:

The speed of light is 1.
( i.e. A special maser's period's distance over it's duration )

Indeed, in Planck units, it's a unitless 1... flat out !
Using SI's " standard periods " the speed of light is:
" 299792458^-1 = 30.66 periods / 9.19 gigaperiods ".

Now I ask... Where is God if time is spatial ?

Nice line of nonsense there Jeff. Question based on a false premise. I like
it.

In conversations were the word " God " is mentioned,
I've found that it often means,
" The higher powers that effect our fate. ".
( e.g. The pseudo arrow of time, a.k.a. pseudo entropy )

Also, religious people tend to be more optimistic than sober-minded,
using euphemisms like " Heavenly Father " instead of " Our Fate ".

If Jesus were alive today he'd be nailed to the cross again
by the same gang of law-obsessed, inhumane government stooges.
So I stay " judgement proof ".

Nonsense.
.

User: "Ahmed Ouahi, Architect"

Title: Re: Where is God if time is spatial ? 07 Apr 2007 05:24:30 AM
Fortunately or unfortunately!
In the meantime, anything does shows, that it is the politics which are
trying like a hell, to be themselves God as even helping upon more
themselves along the eugenics as also trying to act as God and using it as a
business along which a lot of a Money involved as to be hidden along the
average, by introducing to them the hunger and more fear and emptiness, all
along, and this is what is all about.
" History is a pack of lies we play on the dead. "
-- Voltaire
--
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
Best Regards!
"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_7_1_@Cotse.NET...

Hi Pentcho_Valev, The standard meter/second
are just counts of periods from a special maser.
Red/Blue Shift is a miracle ? that's your brain tumor talking.

How we model time, God and aging, affects our health.
Lambda-CDM ( which employs G.R. ) tells us that
the energy of the known Universe is being " spent ".
( i.e. It's becomming " unusable " )

In General Relativity it's obvious that
time is truly a spatial dimension ( static, parochial, immutable ).
It's only _ Pseudo _ randomness that makes it seem otherwise.

The spatial nature of time can easily be seen
in the ( red/blue shiftable ) definition of the SI meter, to wit:

The speed of light is 1.
( i.e. A special maser's period's distance over it's duration )

Indeed, in Planck units, it's a unitless 1... flat out !
Using SI's " standard periods " the speed of light is:
" 299792458^-1 = 30.66 periods / 9.19 gigaperiods ".

Now I ask... Where is God if time is spatial ?

In conversations were the word " God " is mentioned,
I've found that it often means,
" The higher powers that effect our fate. ".
( e.g. The pseudo arrow of time, a.k.a. pseudo entropy )

Also, religious people tend to be more optimistic than sober-minded,
using euphemisms like " Heavenly Father " instead of " Our Fate ".

If Jesus were alive today he'd be nailed to the cross again
by the same gang of law-obsessed, inhumane government stooges.
So I stay " judgement proof ".

.

User: "Traveler"

Title: Re: Where is God if time is spatial ? 07 Apr 2007 09:05:25 AM
On 7 Apr 2007 09:35:41 GMT, Jeff…Relf <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote:

Now I ask... Where is God if time is spatial ?

Hem. Time is not spatial. It is measured in seconds while a spatial
dimension is measured in meters. Time is abstract and is not a
dimension of nature.
Having said that, there is indeed a fourth spatial dimension. This is
what Jesus was alluding to when he said "truly, truly, I say unto you,
before Abraham was I am". Think about it.
ahahahaha...
Louis Savain
Why Software Is Bad and What We Can Do to Fix It:
http://www.rebelscience.org/Cosas/Reliability.htm
.
User: "malibu"

Title: Re: Where is God if time is spatial ? 07 Apr 2007 09:16:51 AM
On Apr 7, 8:05 am, Traveler <trave...@nospam.net> wrote:

On 7 Apr 2007 09:35:41 GMT, Jeff...Relf <Jeff_R...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:

Now I ask... Where is God if time is spatial ?


Hem. Time is not spatial. It is measured in seconds while a spatial
dimension is measured in meters. Time is abstract and is not a
dimension of nature.

Having said that, there is indeed a fourth spatial dimension. This is
what Jesus was alluding to when he said "truly, truly, I say unto you,
before Abraham was I am". Think about it.

ahahahaha...

Louis Savain

Why Software Is Bad and What We Can Do to Fix It:http://www.rebelscience.org/Cosas/Reliability.htm

God is everywhere. Omnipresent.
John
.
User: "Gordon"

Title: Re: Where is God if time is spatial ? 07 Apr 2007 07:24:26 PM
On 7 Apr 2007 07:16:51 -0700, "malibu" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca>
wrote:

On Apr 7, 8:05 am, Traveler <trave...@nospam.net> wrote:

On 7 Apr 2007 09:35:41 GMT, Jeff...Relf <Jeff_R...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:

Now I ask... Where is God if time is spatial ?


Hem. Time is not spatial. It is measured in seconds while a spatial
dimension is measured in meters. Time is abstract and is not a
dimension of nature.

Having said that, there is indeed a fourth spatial dimension. This is
what Jesus was alluding to when he said "truly, truly, I say unto you,
before Abraham was I am". Think about it.

ahahahaha...

Louis Savain

Why Software Is Bad and What We Can Do to Fix It:http://www.rebelscience.org/Cosas/Reliability.htm



God is everywhere. Omnipresent.

John

Muslims don't agree. Their Koran teaches that God could not
possibly have been present on the throne in heaven and at the
same time present in the body of Jesus, or in the form of the
Holy Spirit. The Koran teaches that Jesus was only an apostle,
not God in the flesh as he and his disciples taught. Their Koran
also teaches that Jesus was not crucified then raised from the
dead, but instead, had a likeness crucified in his place, then
pretended to have been raised from the dead.This seems to make
Jesus a liar and a deceiver, but I guess this is okay for a
Muslim prophet....go figure???
.




User: "JanPB"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 02 Apr 2007 02:02:38 AM
I still don't understand why you waste your time on this.
--
Jan Bielawski
.
User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 02 Apr 2007 02:16:27 AM
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message =
news:1175497358.387632.31990@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

I still don't understand=20

Of course you don't, but then, you are Polish... <shrug>
It doesn't matter how many times it is explained to you,=20
nothing can change stupidity.
How many Bielawskis does it take to change a light bulb?
.
User: "JanPB"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 02 Apr 2007 08:01:43 PM
On Apr 2, 12:16 am, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>
wrote:

"JanPB" <film...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1175497358.387632.31990@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

I still don't understand


Of course you don't, but then, you are Polish... <shrug>
It doesn't matter how many times it is explained to you,
nothing can change stupidity.

How many Bielawskis does it take to change a light bulb?

I was expecting something a little more creative :-)
--
Jan Bielawski
.
User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 02 Apr 2007 09:36:43 PM
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message =
news:1175562103.271510.327580@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 2, 12:16 am, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>
wrote:

"JanPB" <film...@gmail.com> wrote in =

messagenews:1175497358.387632.31990@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

I still don't understand


Of course you don't, but then, you are Polish... <shrug>
It doesn't matter how many times it is explained to you,
nothing can change stupidity.

How many Bielawskis does it take to change a light bulb?

=20
I was expecting something a little more creative :-)
=20

Changing light bulbs isn't creative, anyone except a Pole
can do it. Poles and German Jews screw them in from A to B=20
then unscrew them from B to A again, making the total=20
displacement zero. English light bulbs use a bayonet fixture
rather than Edison screw to make it easier for the Irish.
The connection to an English bulb is *two pole*, there is no electrical
connection to the bayonet. Get it? Two pole? Get it? Get it?
The ozzies use them too.
http://www1.sedo.energy.wa.gov.au/images/incandescent_light_globe.gif
Even cartoonists know the light doesn't return to A.
http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df9706/df970626.jpg
You are not a Polish Jew, are you?=20
"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources" -- =
Einstein.
Einstein's source:
=20
'Really, this is what is meant by the Fourth Dimension, though some =
people who talk about the Fourth Dimension do not know they mean it. It =
is only another way of looking at Time. There is no difference between =
Time and any of the three dimensions of Space except that our =
consciousness moves along with it.' -- Herbert George Wells - "The Time =
Machine" - 1895.
It only took Einstein 10 years to divide by zero and make it work on =
paper.
That "would be like Stephen Hawking dividing by zero or something =
equally trivial." -- Bielawski.
Many a true word is spoken in jest.
"would have been caught immediately by the AdP reviewer." -- Bielawski.
I expect the Annalen der Physik reviewer was a Pole named Hawking.
"It's WAY too simple-minded." -- Bielawski.
"To me it's interesting - what are the limits of withstanding blatant
contradictions (infinite, apparently)." -- Bielawski.
Anglo-American and Japanese Palm pilot:
http://www.sagekey.com/images/palm_pilot.gif
Polish palm pilot (same as Irish):
http://www.shaunc.com/images/irish-palm-pilot.jpg
Polish hour timer, goes from tA to t'A as a signal gets from Earth to
Cassini at Saturn:
http://www.makezine.com/blog/hour.jpg

.
User: "maxwell"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 02 Apr 2007 10:37:41 PM
On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>
wrote:

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources" -- Einstein.


"would have been caught immediately by the AdP reviewer." -- Bielawski.

Androcles, you occasionally suggest a nugget of wisdom in your self-
destructive invective. I would be very interested in the reference to
the above quotation from Einstein.
Mr Bielawski, you should realize that Einstein's 1905 papers in AdP
were not reviewed by anyone but accepted 'as-is' by Max Planck, the
journal's editor as they reinforced Planck's Pythagorean/Platonic
metaphysical view of the world. The total lack of references in the
famous SR paper would never be acceptable today - hence my interest in
the above quotation.
.
User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 03 Apr 2007 05:04:57 AM
"maxwell" <spsi@shaw.ca> wrote in message =
news:1175571461.205738.16680@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>
wrote:

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources" -- =

Einstein.


"would have been caught immediately by the AdP reviewer." -- =

Bielawski.

Androcles, you occasionally suggest a nugget of wisdom in your self-
destructive invective. I would be very interested in the reference to
the above quotation from Einstein.

Have you heard of Google?
It's a rather powerful search engine that you should try out instead
of employing your self-destructive whining and snipping. Type in=20
http://www.google.co.uk/
then type in "Einstein quotes". 1,350,000 hits.
After that you are on your own, I can wipe your arse for you but=20
you have to ***** for yourself, I'm not your nursemaid.=20
The only pertinent nugget of stupidity that need bother you is=20
2AB/(t'A-tA) =3D c =3D 0/0.
Follow me through, with references to=20
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES
By A. Einstein
1) Domain is the "stationary" frame K.
2) Codomain (or Image) is the "moving" frame k.
3) "If we place x'=3Dx-vt, it is clear that a point at rest in the =
system k must have a system of values x', y, z, independent of time." - =
Einstein.
4) Function: f(x) =3D x' =3D x-vt
5) Domain is "moving" frame k.
6) Codomain is "moving" frame kappa.
7) xi =3D (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (given)
8) but x' =3D x-vt, so xi =3D x'/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) and so we have
9) xi =3D g(f(x)) where g(x) =3D x/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) or gof: x |-> xi.
10) Question: What is the velocity v between the "moving" frame k
and the "moving" frame kappa?
=20

Mr Bielawski, you should realize that Einstein's 1905 papers in AdP
were not reviewed by anyone but accepted 'as-is' by Max Planck, the
journal's editor as they reinforced Planck's Pythagorean/Platonic
metaphysical view of the world. The total lack of references in the
famous SR paper would never be acceptable today - hence my interest in
the above quotation.
=20

Mr. Bilewacky is a Pole and therefore the butt of jokes such as
"How many Bielawskis does it take to change a light bulb?"
His adoration of the magi (Einstein, Lorentz, Hawking --who couldn't=20
fight their way out of a paper bag, let alone use GPS or other means
of stellar navigation to find their way to Bethlehem in time for Xmas)=20
exceeds his understanding of mathematics but not his faith in virgin=20
births or Saint Nicholaus Klaus, Polish bearer of gifts to small =
children
unwise enough to know when they are being conned by the age of 7.=20
I must admit that at the age of 7 I wasn't too sure what a virgin birth
was either, the heretofore reliable source of all wisdom (my mother)=20
informed me that I was born under a gooseberry bush. Whilst I doubted=20
the sagacity of her remark, suspecting a lie, I was no closer to finding =
out what a virgin was.=20
I did, however, inspect local gooseberry bushes and found the fruit
to be sour until ripe, then sweet, yet hard to reach for the prickly =
thorns.
These days I associate the names "Thorne" and "Bush" with
misdirection and lies.
.
User: "maxwell"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 08 Apr 2007 11:58:22 AM
On Apr 3, 3:04 am, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>
wrote:

"maxwell" <s...@shaw.ca> wrote in messagenews:1175571461.205738.16680@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>
wrote:

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources" -- Einstein.


Androcles, you occasionally suggest a nugget of wisdom in your self-
destructive invective. I would be very interested in the reference to
the above quotation from Einstein.


Have you heard of Google?

Androcles, your behaviour is a psychological mystery. You go to extra-
ordinary lengths to not respond to a simple question. You either know
the reference or you don't; then again, you may have just made it up:
which is it?
.
User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 08 Apr 2007 01:36:30 PM
"maxwell" <spsi@shaw.ca> wrote in message =
news:1176051502.084239.77400@w1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 3, 3:04 am, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>
wrote:

"maxwell" <s...@shaw.ca> wrote in =

messagenews:1175571461.205738.16680@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>
wrote:

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources" =

-- Einstein.


Androcles, you occasionally suggest a nugget of wisdom in your =

self-

destructive invective. I would be very interested in the reference =

to

the above quotation from Einstein.


Have you heard of Google?

Androcles, your=20

Did you rudely and disgustingly snip something I took the trouble
to write, you ugly fuckin' arsehole?
Oh yes, it was:
It's a rather powerful search engine that you should try out instead
of employing your self-destructive whining and snipping. Type in=20
http://www.google.co.uk/
then type in "Einstein quotes". 1,350,000 hits.
After that you are on your own, I can wipe your arse for you but=20
you have to ***** for yourself, I'm not your nursemaid.=20
The only pertinent nugget of stupidity that need bother you is=20
2AB/(t'A-tA) =3D c =3D 0/0.
Follow me through, with references to=20
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES
By A. Einstein
1) Domain is the "stationary" frame K.
2) Codomain (or Image) is the "moving" frame k.
3) "If we place x'=3Dx-vt, it is clear that a point at rest in the =
system k must have a system of values x', y, z, independent of time." - =
Einstein.
4) Function: f(x) =3D x' =3D x-vt
5) Domain is "moving" frame k.
6) Codomain is "moving" frame kappa.
7) xi =3D (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) (given)
8) but x' =3D x-vt, so xi =3D x'/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) and so we have
9) xi =3D g(f(x)) where g(x) =3D x/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) or gof: x |-> xi.
10) Question: What is the velocity v between the "moving" frame k
and the "moving" frame kappa?
=20

Mr Bielawski, you should realize that Einstein's 1905 papers in AdP
were not reviewed by anyone but accepted 'as-is' by Max Planck, the
journal's editor as they reinforced Planck's Pythagorean/Platonic
metaphysical view of the world. The total lack of references in the
famous SR paper would never be acceptable today - hence my interest in
the above quotation.
=20

Mr. Bilewacky is a Pole and therefore the butt of jokes such as
"How many Bielawskis does it take to change a light bulb?"
His adoration of the magi (Einstein, Lorentz, Hawking --who couldn't=20
fight their way out of a paper bag, let alone use GPS or other means
of stellar navigation to find their way to Bethlehem in time for Xmas)=20
exceeds his understanding of mathematics but not his faith in virgin=20
births or Saint Nicholaus Klaus, Polish bearer of gifts to small =
children
unwise enough to know when they are being conned by the age of 7.=20
I must admit that at the age of 7 I wasn't too sure what a virgin birth
was either, the heretofore reliable source of all wisdom (my mother)=20
informed me that I was born under a gooseberry bush. Whilst I doubted=20
the sagacity of her remark, suspecting a lie, I was no closer to finding =
out what a virgin was.=20
I did, however, inspect local gooseberry bushes and found the fruit
to be sour until ripe, then sweet, yet hard to reach for the prickly =
thorns.
These days I associate the names "Thorne" and "Bush" with
misdirection and lies.
.
User: "Dirk Van de moortel"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 08 Apr 2007 02:43:57 PM
"Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> wrote in message news:OCaSh.70241$%g3.30671@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
[rude and disgusting snip]

Did you rudely and disgustingly snip something I took the trouble

This kind?
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Shoulders.html
Dirk Vdm
.

User: "The_Man"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 08 Apr 2007 02:08:03 PM
On Apr 8, 2:36 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>
wrote:

"maxwell" <s...@shaw.ca> wrote in messagenews:1176051502.084239.77400@w1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 3, 3:04 am, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>
wrote:

"maxwell" <s...@shaw.ca> wrote in messagenews:1175571461.205738.16680@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>
wrote:

"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources" -- Einstein.


Androcles, you occasionally suggest a nugget of wisdom in your self-
destructive invective. I would be very interested in the reference to
the above quotation from Einstein.

He got it from lists of Einstein "quotes" that circulate around the
Internet. Androcles likes thje quote, since it (at least in Androcles'
limited engineer mentality) that Einstein was a plagiarist. The fact
that no legitimate citation accompanies the quote makes it impossible
to either establish its veracity, or to establish the context of the
comment. It is unknown whether the alleged statement was made in
English, or whether the "quote" is a translation from German.


Have you heard of Google?


Androcles, your


Did you rudely and disgustingly snip something I took the trouble
to write, you ugly fuckin' arsehole?

Androcles demonstrates the "brilliance" of engineers yet again.


Oh yes, it was:
It's a rather powerful search engine that you should try out instead
of employing your self-destructive whining and snipping. Type in
http://www.google.co.uk/
then type in "Einstein quotes". 1,350,000 hits.
After that you are on your own, I can wipe your arse for you

in fact, he probably already has.

but
you have to ***** for yourself, I'm not your nursemaid.

The only pertinent nugget of stupidity that need bother you is
2AB/(t'A-tA) = c = 0/0.

Yawn. he is supposed to be an engineer, but he can't understand high
school algebra 1.


Follow me through, with references to
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/

<snipped Androcles ignorance of 1905 SR paper>

Mr Bielawski, you should realize that Einstein's 1905 papers in AdP
were not reviewed by anyone but accepted 'as-is' by Max Planck, the
journal's editor as they reinforced Planck's Pythagorean/Platonic
metaphysical view of the world. The total lack of references in the
famous SR paper would never be acceptable today - hence my interest in
the above quotation.


Mr. Bilewacky is a Pole and therefore the butt of jokes such as
"How many Bielawskis does it take to change a light bulb?"

Answer: Not as many as it takes to teach Androcles simple math.


His adoration of the magi (Einstein, Lorentz, Hawking --who couldn't
fight their way out of a paper bag, let alone use GPS or other means
of stellar navigation to find their way to Bethlehem in time for Xmas)
exceeds his understanding of mathematics but not his faith in virgin
births or Saint Nicholaus Klaus, Polish bearer of gifts to small children
unwise enough to know when they are being conned by the age of 7.

If I remember correclty, you were the one who "installed" instruments
at NASA, which is what we Americans usually get a janitor (in British,
"Dustman") to do.


I must admit that at the age of 7 I wasn't too sure what a virgin birth
was either,

especially considering who your mother is!

the heretofore reliable source of all wisdom (my mother)
informed me that I was born under a gooseberry bush.

And that she needed your "uncle" to come and "Comfort" her when your
dad (probably not your FATHER) was away, and it was thundering out.

Whilst I doubted
the sagacity of her remark, suspecting a lie, I was no closer to finding
out what a virgin was.

Your mother had exactly the same problem.

I did, however, inspect local gooseberry bushes and found the fruit
to be sour until ripe, then sweet, yet hard to reach for the prickly thorns.
These days I associate the names "Thorne" and "Bush" with
misdirection and lies.

Doesn't it just KILL you that the Jew Einstein was a million times
more intelligent than you? That he is famous, whereas you (fine goy
that you are) are just feces in the street, that people are disgusted
by when they step in it?
.
User: "hanson"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 08 Apr 2007 05:01:37 PM
ahahaha... AHAHAHA.. a true dreidel, "the so horny Man".. ahahaha...
showed up, cranked himself and tried to come-onto Androcles as
the Dreidel, "The_Man" <me_so_horneeeee@yahoo.com> who w/i
news:1176059283.371460.315450@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/8504eb89705ae6ad


about "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> who wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/070c439802c3449f


[the The_Dreidel adressing Andro]

Doesn't it just KILL you [Andro] that the Jew Einstein was a million
times more intelligent than you? That he is famous, whereas you
(fine goy that you are, [Andro]) are just feces in the street, that
people are disgusted by when they step in it?

[hanson]
ahahaha... Dreidel, you should speak for yourself and only for a few
of your people with your uppermost thought to "KILL", you hate-filled
racist and bigoted Jew, .. You are such a fanatical Einstein Dingle-
berry that you do not even realize that YOU are only creating more
Anti-Semitism with your tripe above. YOU actually behave like this
fine Jew here: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
.... and to boot, what I cannot understand is why you, like some other
Jews, are working so very, very hard to turn Hitler's Last Curse into
becoming a self-filling prophesy which Hitler broadcast just before
his demise in 45, in which he said: **"in a 100 years from now the
world will be grateful for what I have started".**
....62 down, 38 to go...
ahahahaha... Now get your rocks off and behave like a normal Jew.
ahahaha... ahahanson
.
User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 08 Apr 2007 05:40:48 PM
"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message =
news:5DdSh.327$ok6.286@trnddc07...

ahahaha... AHAHAHA.. a true dreidel, "the so horny Man".. ahahaha...
showed up, cranked himself and tried to come-onto Androcles as
the Dreidel, "The_Man" <me_so_horneeeee@yahoo.com> who w/i
news:1176059283.371460.315450@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
=

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/8504eb89705ae6a=
d


about "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> who wrote:
=

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/070c439802c3449=
f


[the The_Dreidel adressing Andro]

Doesn't it just KILL you [Andro] that the Jew Einstein was a million
times more intelligent than you? That he is famous, whereas you
(fine goy that you are, [Andro]) are just feces in the street, that
people are disgusted by when they step in it?

[hanson]
ahahaha... Dreidel, you should speak for yourself and only for a few
of your people with your uppermost thought to "KILL", you hate-filled
racist and bigoted Jew, .. You are such a fanatical Einstein Dingle-
berry that you do not even realize that YOU are only creating more
Anti-Semitism with your tripe above. YOU actually behave like this
fine Jew here: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3De1842edc4f
... and to boot, what I cannot understand is why you, like some other
Jews, are working so very, very hard to turn Hitler's Last Curse into
becoming a self-filling prophesy which Hitler broadcast just before
his demise in 45, in which he said: **"in a 100 years from now the
world will be grateful for what I have started".**
...62 down, 38 to go...
ahahahaha... Now get your rocks off and behave like a normal Jew.
ahahaha... ahahanson

Oh... did he really? I must have missed it, he's on my killfile. <shrug>
.

User: "The_Man"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 08 Apr 2007 07:07:59 PM
On Apr 8, 6:01 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:

ahahaha... AHAHAHA.. a true dreidel, "the so horny Man".. ahahaha...
showed up, cranked himself and tried to come-onto Androcles as
the Dreidel, "The_Man" <me_so_hornee...@yahoo.com> who w/inews:1176059283.371460.315450@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/8504eb89705...

about "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> who wrote:http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/070c439802c...

[the The_Dreidel adressing Andro]> Doesn't it just KILL you [Andro] that the Jew Einstein was a million

times more intelligent than you? That he is famous, whereas you
(fine goy that you are, [Andro]) are just feces in the street, that
people are disgusted by when they step in it?


[hanson]
ahahaha... Dreidel, you should speak for yourself and only for a few
of your people

You have no idea who "my" people are. I'll give you a hint - they can
read and write, so they can't be YOUR people.

with your uppermost thought to "KILL", you hate-filled
racist and bigoted Jew, ..

Guess again, anti-Semtic piece of *****. I'm not Jewish.

You are such a fanatical Einstein Dingle-
berry that you do not even realize that YOU are only creating more
Anti-Semitism with your tripe above.

So I'm creating anti-Semitism by me (not Jewish) criticizing
"Androcles", the nitwit "engineer" who can;t do the simlest math.
Incidentally, this is the same Androcles who cursed me out in the
vulgarist way, until I gave him back the same, and now he pussied out
by putting me on his killfile. Big man, that Androcles!
Still, it must kill YOU too that you are one-millionth as intelligent
as the Jews you hate. Ain't life a *****? You make yourself feel
better by pretending that you are even half a man enough to "do
something" about it.

YOU actually behave like this
fine Jew here:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
... and to boot, what I cannot understand is why you, like some other
Jews,

Maybe you should the meaning of "other".

are working so very, very hard to turn Hitler's Last Curse into
becoming a self-filling prophesy which Hitler broadcast just before
his demise

You mean his cowardly suicide? Don't YOU want to take the glorious way
out of Ribbentrop, Schleicher, Jodl, und so weiter, strangling at the
end of a rope? You DO know that the Nazis hanged at Nurember strangled
slowly from the rope, taking upwards of 30 minutes to strangle to
death? Quite literally the sentence "Tod durch den Strang". Maybe
you'll earn the same some day.

in 45, in which he said: **"in a 100 years from now the
world will be grateful for what I have started".**

You have the arrogance to confuse "the world" with YOU.

...62 down, 38 to go...
ahahahaha... Now get your rocks off and behave like a normal Jew.
ahahaha... ahahanson

.
User: "hanson"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 09 Apr 2007 12:46:37 AM
ahahaha... HAHAHAHA... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHA....
.... AHAHA... Good One!... ahahaha... Dreidel, the stereotypically
loud Jew aka "The_Man" <me_so_horneeeee> impressed himself
with redirecting his curses & maledictions against Androcles, now
onto me, and cranked himself in the process so grieveously as if
his beytsim had fallen off and gummed up the works in his
news:1176077279.054475.206630@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
wherein the shrill, "so hornee" Yiddle fanatic behaved just like this one:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f ... ahahahaha.. AHAHA..


Then the Dreidel proudly announced that he was indeed "creating
anti-Semitism" and when it was pointed out to him, he did the classical
Jewish 180-Lie and DENIED his own Jewishness, him now stating
agitated: "I'm not Jewish"... ahaha... as if he, Dreidel, felt that it is a
shame or crime to be Jewish.... AHAHAHA... ahahaha... AHAHAHA..
Now then listen, Dreidel: Here it is again, for your own benefit, so that
you can see what an embarrassment you are to your Jewish community
and to all humandkind:



ahahaha... AHAHAHA.. a true dreidel, "the so horny Man".. ahahaha...
showed up, cranked himself and tried to come-onto Androcles as
the Dreidel, "The_Man" <me_so_horneeeee@yahoo.com> who w/i
news:1176059283.371460.315450@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/8504eb89705ae6ad


about "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> who wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/070c439802c3449f


[the The_Dreidel adressing Andro]

Doesn't it just KILL you [Andro] that the Jew Einstein was a million
times more intelligent than you? That he is famous, whereas you
(fine goy that you are, [Andro]) are just feces in the street, that
people are disgusted by when they step in it?

[hanson]
ahahaha... Dreidel, you should speak for yourself and only for a few
of your people with your uppermost thought to "KILL", you hate-filled
racist and bigoted Jew, .. You are such a fanatical Einstein Dingle-
berry that you do not even realize that YOU are only creating more
Anti-Semitism with your tripe above. YOU actually behave like this
fine Jew here: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
.... and to boot, what I cannot understand is why you, like some other
Jews, are working so very, very hard to turn Hitler's Last Curse into
becoming a self-filling prophesy which Hitler broadcast just before
his demise in 45, in which he said: **"in a 100 years from now the
world will be grateful for what I have started".**
....62 down, 38 to go...
ahahahaha... Now get your rocks off and behave like a normal Jew.
ahahaha... ahahanson
.
User: "The_Man"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 09 Apr 2007 06:47:50 PM

Then the Dreidel proudly announced that he was indeed "creating
anti-Semitism" and when it was pointed out to him, he did the classical
Jewish 180-Lie and DENIED his own Jewishness, him now stating
agitated: "I'm not Jewish"... ahaha... as if he, Dreidel, felt that it is a
shame or crime to be Jewish.... AHAHAHA... ahahaha... AHAHAHA..

No, it is not a crime or shame to be Jewish; I am being accurate. If I
found out tomorrrow that I was adopted, and that I were Jewish, that
would be super-cool. No mayer what my ancestry, I can read, write, and
think, unlike a moronic piece of ***** like you.

Now then listen, Dreidel: Here it is again, for your own benefit, so that
you can see what an embarrassment you are to your Jewish community
and to all humandkind:

I could hardly embarass the "Jewish commun ity", being as I don't
belong to it. Even if I did, I could harldy embarass it as much as you
embarass yourself and any community to which you belong.


ahahaha... AHAHAHA.. a true dreidel, "the so horny Man".. ahahaha...
showed up, cranked himself and tried to come-onto Androcles as
the Dreidel, "The_Man" <me_so_hornee...@yahoo.com> who w/inews:1176059283.371460.315450@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/8504eb89705...

about "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> who wrote:http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/070c439802c...

[the The_Dreidel adressing Andro]> Doesn't it just KILL you [Andro] that the Jew Einstein was a million

times more intelligent than you? That he is famous, whereas you
(fine goy that you are, [Andro]) are just feces in the street, that
people are disgusted by when they step in it?

Uej, I wrote that, and it accurately sums up my opinion of Androcles,
whoc is a low-life, a coward, and an idiot. (he is a triple-threat)


[hanson]
ahahaha... Dreidel, you should speak for yourself and only for a few
of your people with your uppermost thought to "KILL", you hate-filled
racist and bigoted Jew, .. You are such a fanatical Einstein Dingle-
berry that you do not even realize that YOU are only creating more
Anti-Semitism with your tripe above. YOU actually behave like this
fine Jew here:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
... and to boot, what I cannot understand is why you, like some other
Jews, are working so very, very hard to turn Hitler's Last Curse into
becoming a self-filling prophesy which Hitler broadcast just before
his demise in 45, in which he said: **"in a 100 years from now the
world will be grateful for what I have started".**
...62 down, 38 to go...
ahahahaha... Now get your rocks off and behave like a normal Jew.
ahahaha... ahahanson

Yadda, yadda, yadda... I notice you snipped tha part about you being
too big a ***** to act on your prejudices, just like you pansy friend
Androcles. How it must eat ou up inside, to not only be too stupid to
keep up with civilized people, but you aren't even brave enough to be
a tough guy. How pathetic!
.
User: "hanson"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 10 Apr 2007 12:25:00 AM
ahahaha... HAHAHAHA... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHA....
.... AHAHA... Good One!... ahahaha... Dreidel, the stereotypically
loud Jew aka "The_Man" <me_so_horneeeee> impressed himself
now with not only with redirecting his curses & maledictions against
Androcles and me but now cusses both of us, just like his own role
model does here in http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
ahahaha... and to boot, he heels and responds like a fast learning
Köter to his newly accepted name "Dreidel" (which in The_Man's
case means "Trödel" which should give him a better idea about
how he presents himself (in the language his professes to know)):


[hanson]
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/6adcc323e5fff732

Then the Dreidel proudly announced that he was indeed "creating
anti-Semitism" and when it was pointed out to him, he did the classical
Jewish 180-Lie and DENIED his own Jewishness, him now stating
agitated: "I'm not Jewish"... ahaha... as if he, Dreidel, felt that it
is a shame or crime to be Jewish.... AHAHAHA... ahahaha...


[Dreidel listens, cranks himself grievously and has another outburst]

No, it is not a crime or shame to be Jewish; I am being accurate. If I
found out tomorrrow that I was adopted, and that I were Jewish, that
would be super-cool. No mayer what my ancestry, I can read, write, and
think, unlike a moronic piece of ***** like you.

[hanson (prior) ]

Now then listen, Dreidel: Here it is again, for your own benefit, so that
you can see what an embarrassment you are to your Jewish community
and to all humandkind:


[Dreidel parrots in his denial & admits to being an embarrassment]

I could hardly embarass the "Jewish commun ity", being as I don't
belong to it. Even if I did, I could harldy embarass it as much as you
embarass yourself and any community to which you belong.

[hanson (prior) ]

ahahaha... AHAHAHA.. a true dreidel, "the so horny Man".. ahahaha...
showed up, cranked himself and tried to come-onto Androcles as
the Dreidel, "The_Man" <me_so_hornee...@yahoo.com> who w/i


news:1176059283.371460.315450@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/8504eb89705...


about "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> who wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/070c439802c...


[the The_Dreidel adressing Andro]

Doesn't it just KILL you [Andro] that the Jew Einstein was a million
times more intelligent than you? That he is famous, whereas you
(fine goy that you are, [Andro]) are just feces in the street, that
people are disgusted by when they step in it?


[Dreidel imagines threats, perhaps post-holocaust-stress-syndrome]

Uej, I wrote that, and it accurately sums up my opinion of Androcles,
whoc is a low-life, a coward, and an idiot. (he is a triple-threat)

[hanson]
ahahaha... Dreidel, you should speak for yourself and only for a few
of your people with your uppermost thought to "KILL", you hate-filled
racist and bigoted Jew, .. You are such a fanatical Einstein Dingle-
berry that you do not even realize that YOU are only creating more
Anti-Semitism with your tripe above. YOU actually behave like this
fine Jew here: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
... and to boot, what I cannot understand is why you, like some other
Jews, are working so very, very hard to turn Hitler's Last Curse into
becoming a self-filling prophesy which Hitler broadcast just before
his demise in 45, in which he said: **"in a 100 years from now the
world will be grateful for what I have started".**
...62 down, 38 to go...
ahahahaha... Now get your rocks off and behave like a normal Jew.
ahahaha... ahahanson


[Dreidel doesn't wanna hear that and thinks about *****]

Yadda, yadda, yadda... [using another kin-folk expression, saying]
I notice you snipped tha part about you being too big a *****
to act on your prejudices, just like you pansy friend Androcles.
How it must eat ou up inside, to not only be too stupid to keep
up with civilized people, but you aren't even brave enough to be
a tough guy. How pathetic!

[hanson]
But Dreidel, listen, you say you are "so horneee", you think about *****
and you claim to be civilized, but all you do is acting exactly like this
worthy Yiddishe gentleman here: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f


Your parroting responses of repeating the same stuff what others just
said about you, and your world-wide advertising of you being "so
horneee" indicates that you do suffer from some endocrine Störungen
of a hormonal Geschlechts related problem, which compels you to act
in your psychotic manner and fashion --- But there is help for you,
Dreidel. Unfortunately, Uncle Al's suggestion was ineffective for you:


http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/c127482c378b8fd4


Therefore, Mr. Dreidel, here are our instructions from our advanced
MH-care facilities at Ravencrag, where we will administer to you
for free, (given your questionable financial situation). For your very
own benefit, please consider it. We do cure mooches like you.


http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cobrajal.htm#Ravencrag
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cobrajal.htm#Hanson


Thanks, Mr. Dreidel,
ahaha... ahahaha.... ahahahanson
.
User: "The_Man"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 10 Apr 2007 06:24:54 AM
<snipped cowardly, anti-Semitic rantings>
It's OK to be a cowardly *****. You can be just like Androcles. Rant
and rave all you want; maybe it will make everyone think you have some
guts. There are lots of Jewish people around - Israel if full of 'em.
Go to it! What are you wating for? If you have a problem with Jewish
people, DO SOMETHING about it. Don;t whine about how great Hitler was,
or how evil the Jews are. Put up or shut the ***** up. You ball-less
whiny shithole *****. The IDF has several divisions just wating
to send you to Valhalla. Instead of acting like a schoolgirl on the
Interent, act!
Oh, you didn't. Why is that, now? Is it because you are a coward?
Afraid of the Jews? If the Jews are that bad, yet you are afraid of
THEM, how low must YOU be?
.
User: "hanson"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 10 Apr 2007 11:16:17 AM
[ Act 1 ]... ahahaha... HAHAHAHA... ahahahaha... AHAHAHA....
.... AHAHA... Good One!... ahahaha... Dreidel, the stereotypically
loud Jew aka "The_Man" <me_so_horneeeee>" impressed himself
now with not only with redirecting his curses & maledictions against
Androcles or me but now cusses both of us, just like his own role
model does here in http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
ahahaha... and to boot, he heels and responds like a fast learning
Köter to his newly accepted name "Dreidel" (which in The_Man's
case means "Trödel" which should give him a better idea about
how he presents himself (in the language he professes to know)):
[Act 2] ... hahaha... Now the Dreidel keeps on ranting more & more
like his idol here http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f in his
news:1176204294.497135.144080@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
and proudly states therein that he, "The_so_horneeeee_Man", is
"OK to be a *****" and struttingly annouced "how great Hitler was"
and "how evil the Jews are"... and that "There are lots of Jewish
people around - Israel if full of 'em. The IDF has several divisions
just wating to send you [hanson] to Valhalla." .... AHAHAHA...


Now then, Mr. Dreidel, instead of rating, and digging your hole
deeper ands deeper, kindly re-read the recommendation in the
post below and check into Ravencrag, for your own benefit, in
order to regain some measure of normal mental health that you
lost when you elected to become one of Einstein's Dingleberries
in your sklavischen Sucht, which left you barking and dangling as
damaged goods, just like your fine Settler idol here is in
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f


--------- ahahahaha.... ahahahahaha... [past Acts] -------------


[hanson]
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/6adcc323e5fff732

.... the Dreidel proudly announced that he was indeed "creating
anti-Semitism" & when it was pointed out to him, he did the classical
Jewish 180-Lie and DENIED his own Jewishness, him now stating
agitated: "I'm not Jewish"... ahaha... as if he, Dreidel, felt that it
is a shame or crime to be Jewish.... AHAHAHA... ahahaha...


[Dreidel listens, cranks himself grievously and has another outburst]

No, it is not a crime or shame to be Jewish; I am being accurate. If I
found out tomorrrow that I was adopted, and that I were Jewish, that
would be super-cool. No mayer what my ancestry, I can read, write, and
think, unlike a moronic piece of ***** like you.

[hanson (prior) ]

Now then listen, Dreidel: Below are the issues again, for your
own benefit, so that you can see what an embarrassment you
are to your Jewish community and to all humandkind:


[Dreidel parrots in his denial & admits to being an embarrassment]

I could hardly embarass the "Jewish commun ity", being as I don't
belong to it. Even if I did, I could harldy embarass it as much as you
embarass yourself and any community to which you belong.

[hanson (prior) ]

ahahaha... AHAHAHA.. a true dreidel, "the so horny Man".. ahahaha...
showed up, cranked himself and tried to come-onto Androcles as
the Dreidel, "The_Man" <me_so_hornee...@yahoo.com> who w/i


news:1176059283.371460.315450@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/8504eb89705...


about "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> who wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/070c439802c...


[the The_Dreidel adressing Andro]

Doesn't it just KILL you [Andro] that the Jew Einstein was a million
times more intelligent than you? That he is famous, whereas you
(fine goy that you are, [Andro]) are just feces in the street, that
people are disgusted by when they step in it?


[Dreidel imagines threats, perhaps post-holocaust-stress-syndrome]

Uej, I wrote that, and it accurately sums up my opinion of Androcles,
whoc is a low-life, a coward, and an idiot. (he is a triple-threat)

[hanson]
ahahaha... Dreidel, you should speak for yourself and only for a few
of your people with your uppermost thought to "KILL", you hate-filled
racist and bigoted Jew, .. You are such a fanatical Einstein Dingle-
berry that you do not even realize that YOU are only creating more
Anti-Semitism with your tripe above. YOU actually behave like this
fine Jew here: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
... and to boot, what I cannot understand is why you, like some other
Jews, are working so very, very hard to turn Hitler's Last Curse into
becoming a self-filling prophesy which Hitler broadcast just before
his demise in 45, in which he said: **"in a 100 years from now the
world will be grateful for what I have started".**
...62 down, 38 to go...
ahahahaha... Now get your rocks off and behave like a normal Jew.
ahahaha... ahahanson


[Dreidel doesn't wanna hear that and thinks about *****]

Yadda, yadda, yadda... [using another kin-folk expression, saying]
I notice you snipped tha part about you being too big a *****
to act on your prejudices, just like you pansy friend Androcles.
How it must eat ou up inside, to not only be too stupid to keep
up with civilized people, but you aren't even brave enough to be
a tough guy. How pathetic!

[hanson]
But Dreidel, listen, you say you are "so horneee", you think about *****
and you claim to be civilized, but all you do is acting exactly like this
worthy Yiddishe gentleman here: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f


Your parroting responses of repeating the same stuff what others just
said about you, and your world-wide advertising of you being "so
horneee" indicates that you do suffer from some endocrine Störungen
of a hormonal Geschlechts related problem, which compels you to act
in your psychotic manner and fashion --- But there is help for you,
Dreidel. Unfortunately, Uncle Al's suggestion was ineffective for you:


http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/c127482c378b8fd4


Therefore, Mr. Dreidel, here are our instructions from our advanced
MH-care facilities at Ravencrag, where we will administer to you
for free, (given your questionable financial situation). For your very
own benefit, please consider it. We do cure mooches like you.


http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cobrajal.htm#Ravencrag
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/cobrajal.htm#Hanson


Thanks, Mr. Dreidel,
ahaha... ahahaha.... ahahahanson
.











User: "JanPB"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 09 Apr 2007 07:05:21 PM
On Apr 2, 8:37 pm, "maxwell" <s...@shaw.ca> wrote:

On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>
wrote:> > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources" -- Einstein.

"would have been caught immediately by the AdP reviewer." -- Bielawski.


Androcles, you occasionally suggest a nugget of wisdom in your self-
destructive invective. I would be very interested in the reference to
the above quotation from Einstein.
Mr Bielawski, you should realize that Einstein's 1905 papers in AdP
were not reviewed by anyone but accepted 'as-is' by Max Planck,

Thanks for the info, didn't know about the AdP reviewing process. So I
should have said "would have been caught immediately by Max Planck"!
--
Jan Bielawski
.
User: "Androcles"

Title: Re: HOW TO PROVE EINSTEIN WRONG 09 Apr 2007 07:45:57 PM
"JanPB" <filmart@gmail.com> wrote in message =
news:1176163521.508842.120820@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 2, 8:37 pm, "maxwell" <s...@shaw.ca> wrote:

On Apr 2, 7:36 pm, "Androcles" <Engin...@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>
wrote:> > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your =

sources" -- Einstein.


"would have been caught immediately by the AdP reviewer." -- =

Bielawski.


Androcles, you occasionally suggest a nugget of wisdom in your self-
destructive invective. I would be very interested in the reference to
the above quotation from Einstein.
Mr Bielawski, you should realize that Einstein's 1905 papers in AdP
were not reviewed by anyone but accepted 'as-is' by Max Planck,

=20
Thanks for the info, didn't know about the AdP reviewing process. So I
should have said "would have been caught immediately by Max Planck"!
=20
--
Jan Bielawski

Thereby proving you are an idiot and Planck was not a good editor.
Or maybe he was, it's not his job to criticize but for others to do so=20
(and they did, and I do).
=20
"We have so far defined only an ``A time'' and a ``B time.'' We have not =
defined a common ``time'' for A and B, for the latter cannot be defined =
at all unless we establish by definition that the ``time'' required by =
light to travel from A to B equals the ``time'' it requires to travel =
from B to A."
Einstein doesn't know what time Cassini has but his definition is =
balderdash.
The Earth (A) moves considerably in the couple of hours it takes to=20
send a signal to Cassini (B) and back, it even rotates 30 degrees in =
that=20
interval.
Without his stupid definition Einstein cannot derive his cuckoo=20
malformations with his imaginary experiments.=20
The empirical idiot was as empirically cuckoo as you and Uncle Stooopid.
How many Uncles Stooopid does it take to change a light bulb?
.







User: "John Jones"

Title: Pentho Valley STOP CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOG 02 Apr 2007 04:21:07 PM
On Apr 2, 7:51?am, "Pentcho Valev" <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:

If one is really interested in verifying Einstein's theory, one could
start from the following text written by a fashionable Einsteinian:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html
Tom Roberts: "If the light emitted from a source moving with velocity
v toward the observer has a speed c+kv in the observer's frame.....The
Doppler effect is the observed variation in frequency of a source when
it is observed by a detector that is moving relative to the source.
This effect is most pronounced when the source is moving directly
toward or away from the detector...."

What is the value of k and how is it related to the frequency
variation? Judging from what another fashionable Einsteinian has
admitted, the Michelson-Morley experiment proved that the value k=1 is
correct:

http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00001743/02/Norton.pdfJohn
Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence
for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost
universally use it as support for the light postulate of special
relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE
WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT
POSTULATE."

But the problem is more complicated. If there had been more honesty in
the relativity cult, the experiment of Michelson-Morley would have led
to two competing interpretations:

1. AS FAR AS THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS CONCERNED, Newton's particle model
of light is correct. The speed of light is variable, c'=c+v, where c
is the speed of photons relative to the light source and v is the
relative speed of the light source and the observer. That is what the
emission theory says; no miracles (time dilation, length contraction
etc.) can be introduced.

2. The speed of light is constant, c'=c, independent of v, the
relative speed of the light source and the observer. In this case
miracles (time dilation, length contraction etc.) are OBLIGATORY -
without them the falsehood of the principle of constancy of the speed
of light (c'=c) would be obvious.

The first interpretation is true, the second wrong, and yet the second
was adopted in 1905. That was the beginning of a wrong science of
course but by no means a sin. The sin started when Einstein implicitly
reintroduced the true principle of variability of the speed of light
(c'=c+v), thereby obtaining correct results (e.g. the gravitational
frequency variation factor), and at the same time conserved the false
principle of constancy of the speed of light plus appended miracles,
thereby destroying the rationality of generations of scientists (see
Chapter 22 in Einstein's "Relativity" for more detail).

Einstein reintroduced the true principle of variability of the speed
of light in 1911 when he showed that the speed of light varied with
the gravitational potential in accordance with the equation

c' = c(1 + V/c^2)

where V is the gravitational potential. One can apply the equivalence
principle as shown in

http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch13.pdfpp.2-4

Note that V=gh=cv. Substitute this in Einstein's 1911 equation and you
obtain c'=c+v. For that reason relativists do not like Einstein's 1911
equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) and often declare it wrong, although in 1960
Pound and Rebka confirmed it implicitly by measuring a frequency
variation

f' = f(1 + V/c^2)

As for the Doppler effect, it would be difficult for relativists to
claim that, although the frequency variation measured by Pound and
Rebka confirmed the principle of variability of the speed of light c'=c
+v, the frequency variation in the slightly different (no
acceleration) Doppler situation would be consistent with the false
principle of constancy of the speed of light c'=c.

Pentcho Valev

.
User: "Sue..."

Title: spam 02 Apr 2007 04:41:28 PM
Spam
.


User: "John Jones"

Title: Pentho Valley STOP CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOG 03 Apr 2007 03:54:33 AM
On Apr 2, 7:51?am, "Pentcho Valev" <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:

If one is really interested in verifying Einstein's theory, one could
start from the following text written by a fashionable Einsteinian:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html
Tom Roberts: "If the light emitted from a source moving with velocity
v toward the observer has a speed c+kv in the observer's frame.....The
Doppler effect is the observed variation in frequency of a source when
it is observed by a detector that is moving relative to the source.
This effect is most pronounced when the source is moving directly
toward or away from the detector...."

What is the value of k and how is it related to the frequency
variation? Judging from what another fashionable Einsteinian has
admitted, the Michelson-Morley experiment proved that the value k=1 is
correct:

http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00001743/02/Norton.pdfJohn
Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence
for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost
universally use it as support for the light postulate of special
relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE
WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT
POSTULATE."

But the problem is more complicated. If there had been more honesty in
the relativity cult, the experiment of Michelson-Morley would have led
to two competing interpretations:

1. AS FAR AS THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS CONCERNED, Newton's particle model
of light is correct. The speed of light is variable, c'=c+v, where c
is the speed of photons relative to the light source and v is the
relative speed of the light source and the observer. That is what the
emission theory says; no miracles (time dilation, length contraction
etc.) can be introduced.

2. The speed of light is constant, c'=c, independent of v, the
relative speed of the light source and the observer. In this case
miracles (time dilation, length contraction etc.) are OBLIGATORY -
without them the falsehood of the principle of constancy of the speed
of light (c'=c) would be obvious.

The first interpretation is true, the second wrong, and yet the second
was adopted in 1905. That was the beginning of a wrong science of
course but by no means a sin. The sin started when Einstein implicitly
reintroduced the true principle of variability of the speed of light
(c'=c+v), thereby obtaining correct results (e.g. the gravitational
frequency variation factor), and at the same time conserved the false
principle of constancy of the speed of light plus appended miracles,
thereby destroying the rationality of generations of scientists (see
Chapter 22 in Einstein's "Relativity" for more detail).

Einstein reintroduced the true principle of variability of the speed
of light in 1911 when he showed that the speed of light varied with
the gravitational potential in accordance with the equation

c' = c(1 + V/c^2)

where V is the gravitational potential. One can apply the equivalence
principle as shown in

http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch13.pdfpp.2-4

Note that V=gh=cv. Substitute this in Einstein's 1911 equation and you
obtain c'=c+v. For that reason relativists do not like Einstein's 1911
equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) and often declare it wrong, although in 1960
Pound and Rebka confirmed it implicitly by measuring a frequency
variation

f' = f(1 + V/c^2)

As for the Doppler effect, it would be difficult for relativists to
claim that, although the frequency variation measured by Pound and
Rebka confirmed the principle of variability of the speed of light c'=c
+v, the frequency variation in the slightly different (no
acceleration) Doppler situation would be consistent with the false
principle of constancy of the speed of light c'=c.

Pentcho Valev

.

User: "John Jones"

Title: Pentho Valley STOP CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOG 03 Apr 2007 07:46:02 AM
On Apr 2, 7:51?am, "Pentcho Valev" <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:

If one is really interested in verifying Einstein's theory, one could
start from the following text written by a fashionable Einsteinian:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html
Tom Roberts: "If the light emitted from a source moving with velocity
v toward the observer has a speed c+kv in the observer's frame.....The
Doppler effect is the observed variation in frequency of a source when
it is observed by a detector that is moving relative to the source.
This effect is most pronounced when the source is moving directly
toward or away from the detector...."

What is the value of k and how is it related to the frequency
variation? Judging from what another fashionable Einsteinian has
admitted, the Michelson-Morley experiment proved that the value k=1 is
correct:

http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00001743/02/Norton.pdfJohn
Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence
for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost
universally use it as support for the light postulate of special
relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE
WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT
POSTULATE."

But the problem is more complicated. If there had been more honesty in
the relativity cult, the experiment of Michelson-Morley would have led
to two competing interpretations:

1. AS FAR AS THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS CONCERNED, Newton's particle model
of light is correct. The speed of light is variable, c'=c+v, where c
is the speed of photons relative to the light source and v is the
relative speed of the light source and the observer. That is what the
emission theory says; no miracles (time dilation, length contraction
etc.) can be introduced.

2. The speed of light is constant, c'=c, independent of v, the
relative speed of the light source and the observer. In this case
miracles (time dilation, length contraction etc.) are OBLIGATORY -
without them the falsehood of the principle of constancy of the speed
of light (c'=c) would be obvious.

The first interpretation is true, the second wrong, and yet the second
was adopted in 1905. That was the beginning of a wrong science of
course but by no means a sin. The sin started when Einstein implicitly
reintroduced the true principle of variability of the speed of light
(c'=c+v), thereby obtaining correct results (e.g. the gravitational
frequency variation factor), and at the same time conserved the false
principle of constancy of the speed of light plus appended miracles,
thereby destroying the rationality of generations of scientists (see
Chapter 22 in Einstein's "Relativity" for more detail).

Einstein reintroduced the true principle of variability of the speed
of light in 1911 when he showed that the speed of light varied with
the gravitational potential in accordance with the equation

c' = c(1 + V/c^2)

where V is the gravitational potential. One can apply the equivalence
principle as shown in

http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch13.pdfpp.2-4

Note that V=gh=cv. Substitute this in Einstein's 1911 equation and you
obtain c'=c+v. For that reason relativists do not like Einstein's 1911
equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) and often declare it wrong, although in 1960
Pound and Rebka confirmed it implicitly by measuring a frequency
variation

f' = f(1 + V/c^2)

As for the Doppler effect, it would be difficult for relativists to
claim that, although the frequency variation measured by Pound and
Rebka confirmed the principle of variability of the speed of light c'=c
+v, the frequency variation in the slightly different (no
acceleration) Doppler situation would be consistent with the false
principle of constancy of the speed of light c'=c.

Pentcho Valev

.

User: "John Jones"

Title: Pentho Valley STOP CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOGIC CROSSPOSTING TO SCI LOG 03 Apr 2007 11:42:28 AM
On Apr 2, 7:51?am, "Pentcho Valev" <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:

If one is really interested in verifying Einstein's theory, one could
start from the following text written by a fashionable Einsteinian:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html
Tom Roberts: "If the light emitted from a source moving with velocity
v toward the observer has a speed c+kv in the observer's frame.....The
Doppler effect is the observed variation in frequency of a source when
it is observed by a detector that is moving relative to the source.
This effect is most pronounced when the source is moving directly
toward or away from the detector...."

What is the value of k and how is it related to the frequency
variation? Judging from what another fashionable Einsteinian has
admitted, the Michelson-Morley experiment proved that the value k=1 is
correct:

http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00001743/02/Nor