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21 Aug 2005 05:42:10 PM |
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*HURRAY!* Google Groups gets act together |
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ALTHOUGH I'VE BEEN an ardent critic of Google, since circa
December 1, 2004, I've also been thankful when Google does
something to correct their, shall we say, "little mistakes".
Forsooth, Google still actively supports the DNC 100%, but
this message isn't about politics. It's about the ARCHIVES...
Let's review the basic chronology of Google's post-election
apparent censorship campaign. Without public warning, their
"beta" kicked in about one month to the day after Democrats
lost the election. The most immediately-evident and adverse
effect was that any embedded message links containing an '@'
character were parsed with an ellipsis (...), apparently to
prevent 'spam-bots' from the automatic harvesting of e-mail
addresses--thus, all message IDs and reference headers were
also munged, because they too all contain the '@' character.
Add to this, archived messages of significant size or line-
length were being mysteriously truncated, without providing
the user any means of downloading the entire message intact.
There were other, lesser problems encountered with Google's
Groups beginning in December 2004, but the above two issues
represent the most outrageous problems encountered by users.
Now, Why Google couldn't have waited to implement their beta
until all programming "bugs" were tested and finalized is un-
clear. Meanwhile, the Google Groups users at large have been
left to wonder just what the heck is going on at Google. And
it could be that widespread complaints about the Google beta
persuaded Google to rectify these and other problems much to
the benefit and relief of long-time usenet newsgroup posters
and subscribers. Google stopped truncating long messages and
also stopped forcing messages into non-monospaced text. Nice!
Lately, Google Groups users have noticed that the "..." that
still parses embedded '@' links (to thwart email harvesting)
are now highlighted. Clicking on the ellipsis brings up this
prompt to enter graphically-depicted characters into a field
(similar to the prompt you get when you submit a URL to MSN),
which, if entered correctly, "unlocks" the original article.
Granted, it's slow, and tedious by design. But at least now,
original articles and original message IDs are downloadable,
if only by one archived message ID at a time. While nowhere
nearly as convenient and simple to use as preelection times,
my hats off to Google for making the newsgroup archive once
again available to the public...a *significant* improvement!
Now, if only Google would stop supporting the DNC....that's
asking too much, I know. Suffice that the "Groups" are back.
Better late than never. I'm glad they got their act together.
Therefore I officially *retract* my boycott Google campaign.
(Provided that no other surprises cause me to reinstate it.)
Enjoy!
Daniel Joseph Min
*Min's (once again) Google-Archived Home Page On The WWW:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=XJBDEJF138262.9022453704@anonymous.poster
Download Banned (Freeware) Books by Daniel Joseph Min in PDF format:
http://..... <URLs censored by anti-freespeech liberal terrorists>;
search Yahoo, Alta Vista, MSN, et al RNC-supporting search engines
(NOTE: to date half of my mirrored websites are still up & running)
to wit, you can search for my free "Books by Daniel Joseph Min" on:
http://search.msn.com/
http://search.yahoo.com/search/options
http://www.altavista.com/web/adv
etc. etc. etc.
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| User: "OsherD" |
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| Title: Re: *HURRAY!* Google Groups gets act together |
21 Aug 2005 06:33:53 PM |
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From Osher Doctorow
Anonymous (Daniel Joseph Min) typed:
Therefore I officially *retract* my boycott Google >campaign.
(Provided that no other surprises cause me to >reinstate it.)
Okay, please fill out form 20037515956.33118 (see Hitchehiker's Guide
To the Galaxy) :>)
Also, replace the Boycott Google campaign by the "Boycott Inbred
Presidents" campaign which at the present time includes the Kennedys,
Kerries, Clintons, Carters, and Bushes (the latter for forcing Israel
to cede more land to the Terrorists and Pro-Terrorists in the deceptive
name of Road Map for Peace (actually Road Map For Withdrawal).
Osher Doctorow
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| User: "Landy" |
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21 Aug 2005 06:44:31 PM |
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Also, replace the Boycott Google campaign by the "Boycott Inbred
Presidents" campaign which at the present time includes the Kennedys,
Kerries, Clintons, Carters, and Bushes (the latter for forcing Israel
to cede more land to the Terrorists and Pro-Terrorists in the deceptive
name of Road Map for Peace (actually Road Map For Withdrawal).
Land which Israel forceably took in the first place from your so-called
terrorists.
Who are the real terrorists in this case?
cheers
Bill
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| User: "Jan Owen" |
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| Title: Re: *HURRAY!* Google Groups gets act together |
21 Aug 2005 07:27:48 PM |
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Clearly YOU are.
PLONK!!!
--
Jan Owen
To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address...
Latitude: 33.662
Longitude: -112.3272
"Landy" <noone@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:deb3g4$k1d$1@news.newcastle.edu.au...
Also, replace the Boycott Google campaign by the "Boycott Inbred
Presidents" campaign which at the present time includes the Kennedys,
Kerries, Clintons, Carters, and Bushes (the latter for forcing Israel
to cede more land to the Terrorists and Pro-Terrorists in the
deceptive
name of Road Map for Peace (actually Road Map For Withdrawal).
Land which Israel forceably took in the first place from your so-called
terrorists.
Who are the real terrorists in this case?
cheers
Bill
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| User: "Landy" |
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21 Aug 2005 09:11:51 PM |
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Ignorance is bliss.
Learn some bloody history you ignoramus.
cheers
Bill
"Jan Owen" <janowen1z@cox.net> wrote in message
news:M_8Oe.69943$DW1.48273@fed1read06...
Clearly YOU are.
PLONK!!!
--
Jan Owen
To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address...
Latitude: 33.662
Longitude: -112.3272
"Landy" <noone@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:deb3g4$k1d$1@news.newcastle.edu.au...
Also, replace the Boycott Google campaign by the "Boycott Inbred
Presidents" campaign which at the present time includes the Kennedys,
Kerries, Clintons, Carters, and Bushes (the latter for forcing Israel
to cede more land to the Terrorists and Pro-Terrorists in the
deceptive
name of Road Map for Peace (actually Road Map For Withdrawal).
Land which Israel forceably took in the first place from your so-called
terrorists.
Who are the real terrorists in this case?
cheers
Bill
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| User: "Eric" |
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22 Aug 2005 02:03:03 AM |
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Landy wrote:
Also, replace the Boycott Google campaign by the "Boycott Inbred
Presidents" campaign which at the present time includes the Kennedys,
Kerries, Clintons, Carters, and Bushes (the latter for forcing Israel
to cede more land to the Terrorists and Pro-Terrorists in the deceptive
name of Road Map for Peace (actually Road Map For Withdrawal).
Land which Israel forceably took in the first place from your so-called
terrorists.
Who are the real terrorists in this case?
cheers
Bill
Yeh, after the arabs attacked Israel. No, the real terrorists are now and
always have been arabs. I guess you have been reading the left-wing view of
history, you know, the one that is re-written to fit their agenda? I've
just never understood why the left hates the Jews so badly, why they
blindly support every terrorist (Mao, Ho, Castro, Che, Arafat, bin Laden)
that comes down the pike. Just makes no sense, no sense at all...
Eric
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| User: "Schoenfeld" |
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22 Aug 2005 08:05:17 AM |
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Eric wrote:
I've
just never understood why the left hates the Jews so badly, why they
blindly support every terrorist (Mao, Ho, Castro, Che, Arafat, bin Laden)
that comes down the pike. Just makes no sense, no sense at all...
Were you acquainted with reality, you would know that the vast majority
of Jewish americans vote Democrat.
Eric
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| User: "Tom McDonald" |
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| Title: Re: *HURRAY!* Google Groups gets act together |
21 Aug 2005 07:30:14 PM |
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[sci.archaeology removed because, well hell, if you can't tell...]
Landy wrote:
Also, replace the Boycott Google campaign by the "Boycott Inbred
Presidents" campaign which at the present time includes the Kennedys,
Kerries, Clintons, Carters, and Bushes (the latter for forcing Israel
to cede more land to the Terrorists and Pro-Terrorists in the deceptive
name of Road Map for Peace (actually Road Map For Withdrawal).
Land which Israel forceably took in the first place from your so-called
terrorists.
Who are the real terrorists in this case?
cheers
Bill
Can we all agree that, whoever the real terrorists are, they
don't post on sci.archaeology?
--
Tom McDonald
http://ahwhatdoiknow.blogspot.com/
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| User: "HJ" |
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09 Sep 2005 03:14:38 PM |
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Therefore I officially *retract* my boycott Google campaign.
(Provided that no other surprises cause me to reinstate it.)
Is one loon avoiding Google really a boycott?
Bad news, whacky. You're not even on Google's
radar, and your boycott was a non-event.
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| User: "Albert van der Horst" |
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04 Sep 2005 07:02:07 AM |
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In article <5UU5BSL538585.7376157407@anonymous.poster>,
Anonymous <nobody@bikikii.ath.cx.invalid> wrote:
<SNIP>
Let's review the basic chronology of Google's post-election
apparent censorship campaign. Without public warning, their
"beta" kicked in about one month to the day after Democrats
lost the election. The most immediately-evident and adverse
effect was that any embedded message links containing an '@'
character were parsed with an ellipsis (...), apparently to
prevent 'spam-bots' from the automatic harvesting of e-mail
addresses--thus, all message IDs and reference headers were
also munged, because they too all contain the '@' character.
Not to mention Forth programs.
: (>NEXT%) >LFA @ ; ( Given a DEA, return the next DEA. )
( For a DEA as returned from (>NEXT%} : it IS the end, not a real dea. )
: VOCEND? >LFA @ 0= ;
( As (>NEXT%} but skip holes, i.e. words with names starting in ``-'' )
: >NEXT% BEGIN (>NEXT%) DUP >NFA @ CELL+ C@ &- - UNTIL ;
( Leave the first DEA of the assembler vocabulary. )
: STARTVOC ['] ASSEMBLER >WID >LFA @ ;
( Build: allocate place to remember a DOES> address of a `CREATE'd word )
( Leave that ADDRESS to be filled in by ``REMEMBER'' )
( Execution: Leave for DEA : it IS of same type as the remembered DOES> )
: IS-A CREATE HERE 1 CELLS ALLOT DOES> @ SWAP %>DOES @ = ;
( Patch up the data field of a preceeding word defined by `IS-A' )
( To be called when sitting at the DOES> address )
( The !CSP / ?CSP detects stack changes. Now split it into 2 checks. )
: REMEMBER ?CSP HERE SWAP ! !CSP ; IMMEDIATE
It was a totally ridiculous move.
is totally r
Add to this, archived messages of significant size or line-
length were being mysteriously truncated, without providing
the user any means of downloading the entire message intact.
This can severely hamper any cut and paste from programs
that have a comment till end of line, among them C++, Java
Shell's, Ada, Forth, Perl.
<SNIP>
Therefore I officially *retract* my boycott Google campaign.
(Provided that no other surprises cause me to reinstate it.)
Enjoy!
Daniel Joseph Min
Groetjes Albert
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Albert van der Horst,Oranjestr 8,3511 RA UTRECHT,THE NETHERLANDS
Economic growth -- like all pyramid schemes -- ultimately falters.
albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl http://home.hccnet.nl/a.w.m.van.der.horst
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| User: "Alaca" |
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04 Sep 2005 01:09:10 PM |
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*This is no archaeology*
Albert van der Horst wrote: imak3j.o1e@spenarnc.xs4all.nl,
In article <5UU5BSL538585.7376157407@anonymous.poster>,
Anonymous <nobody@bikikii.ath.cx.invalid> wrote:
<SNIP>
Let's review the basic chronology of Google's post-election
apparent censorship campaign. Without public warning, their
"beta" kicked in about one month to the day after Democrats
lost the election. The most immediately-evident and adverse
effect was that any embedded message links containing an '@'
character were parsed with an ellipsis (...), apparently to
prevent 'spam-bots' from the automatic harvesting of e-mail
addresses--thus, all message IDs and reference headers were
also munged, because they too all contain the '@' character.
Not to mention Forth programs.
(>NEXT%) >LFA @ ; ( Given a DEA, return the next DEA. )
( For a DEA as returned from (>NEXT%} : it IS the end, not a real
dea. )
VOCEND? >LFA @ 0= ;
( As (>NEXT%} but skip holes, i.e. words with names starting in ``-''
)
NEXT% BEGIN (>NEXT%) DUP >NFA @ CELL+ C@ &- - UNTIL ;
( Leave the first DEA of the assembler vocabulary.
)
STARTVOC ['] ASSEMBLER >WID >LFA @ ;
( Build: allocate place to remember a DOES> address of a `CREATE'd
word ) ( Leave that ADDRESS to be filled in by ``REMEMBER''
) ( Execution: Leave for DEA : it IS of same type as the remembered
DOES> )
IS-A CREATE HERE 1 CELLS ALLOT DOES> @ SWAP %>DOES @ = ;
( Patch up the data field of a preceeding word defined by `IS-A'
) ( To be called when sitting at the DOES> address
) ( The !CSP / ?CSP detects stack changes. Now split it into 2
checks. )
REMEMBER ?CSP HERE SWAP ! !CSP ; IMMEDIATE
It was a totally ridiculous move.
is totally r
Add to this, archived messages of significant size or line-
length were being mysteriously truncated, without providing
the user any means of downloading the entire message intact.
This can severely hamper any cut and paste from programs
that have a comment till end of line, among them C++, Java
Shell's, Ada, Forth, Perl.
<SNIP>
Therefore I officially *retract* my boycott Google campaign.
(Provided that no other surprises cause me to reinstate it.)
Enjoy!
Daniel Joseph Min
Groetjes Albert
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