| Topic: |
Science > Physics |
| User: |
"Peter Christensen" |
| Date: |
01 Apr 2006 04:06:54 AM |
| Object: |
I have an equation for the mass of the photon! |
I say: m_photon '=' 0^0
Undefined is the same as undefined.
The equation is EASY to remember. -Use it iff (if and only if) you feel,
that you NEED an equation for the 'mass of the photon'...
PC
(Ps. Don't confuse the second term with C^C :>)
_________________________
Computer Science: 10 = 2D
Math: 0^1 = 0 and 1^0 = 1
PC-Joke: 5* on Google.com
Why 25 characters 5 times,
Did this take 't' to make?
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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| Title: Re: I have an equation for the mass of the photon! |
01 Apr 2006 09:48:22 AM |
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"Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
news:442e50bf$0$15792$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
|I say: m_photon '=' 0^0
Ok. :-)
Androcles.
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| Undefined is the same as undefined.
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| The equation is EASY to remember. -Use it iff (if and only if) you feel,
| that you NEED an equation for the 'mass of the photon'...
|
| PC
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| (Ps. Don't confuse the second term with C^C :>)
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| _________________________
| Computer Science: 10 = 2D
| Math: 0^1 = 0 and 1^0 = 1
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| PC-Joke: 5* on Google.com
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| Why 25 characters 5 times,
| Did this take 't' to make?
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| User: "Peter Christensen" |
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| Title: Re: I have an equation for the mass of the photon! |
01 Apr 2006 04:09:56 AM |
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I say: m_photon '=' 0^0
Undefined is the same as undefined.
PC-Joke: 5* on Google.com
(http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity?hl=en)
Maybe just my own rating, but a 'photon-mass' IS a good joke...
PC
________________
PeCh@MailAPS.org
April 1st today
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| User: "Peter Christensen" |
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| Title: Re: I have an equation for the mass of the photon! |
03 Apr 2006 08:48:41 AM |
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April 1st today
Honestly, I was surpriced, that my posting made some people quite upset, and
that some spend quite some effort to write replies with corrections. Sorry
about that. I just expected a few people to reply with maybe a few lines
about such a joke. I thought, that it would be just something like, what I
would have replied on a joke-posting myself. Could have been something like
this:
"It's obvious, that your posting is nothing but a JOKE. Tomorrow we will be
using m_photon = 0 again! This 'physics' is NOT to 5 stars. Here it is 1/4
!" (Just 1/4 star, or 1/4 like 01-04 for April 1st)
-And not more than that, in the same style.
Here in Denmark, we have a great tradition with jokes on April 1st. All
major newspapers always has one, and there are also a lot in TV. Thought,
that it was like that everywhere; we are always looking for these jokes on
this day. -And we usually catch most of them, when we se them. I thought,
that it would be easily seen as a joke-posting. For example, I wrote "April
1st today" in the first reply in the thread. Personally, I think, that it
was at least a little bit funny, with some of those discussions and the
'mess' of the photon. But maybe my Danish homour doesn't fit into the
English newsgroups.
-It is NOT my fault, that so many people still make the error m_photon =
h*f/c^2. I don't, and I never did. The mass of the photon IS determined to
be 0.
:-)
PC
____________________
m_photon = a_photon = 0
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| User: "Peter Webb" |
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| Title: Re: I have an equation for the mass of the photon! |
03 Apr 2006 10:14:57 AM |
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"Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
news:443127b8$0$15791$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
April 1st today
Honestly, I was surpriced, that my posting made some people quite upset,
and that some spend quite some effort to write replies with corrections.
Sorry about that. I just expected a few people to reply with maybe a few
lines about such a joke. I thought, that it would be just something like,
what I would have replied on a joke-posting myself. Could have been
something like this:
"It's obvious, that your posting is nothing but a JOKE. Tomorrow we will
be using m_photon = 0 again! This 'physics' is NOT to 5 stars. Here it
is 1/4 !" (Just 1/4 star, or 1/4 like 01-04 for April 1st)
I understand you (now), but I am from a part of the world where dates are
written that way. In the US it would be 4/1.
-And not more than that, in the same style.
Here in Denmark, we have a great tradition with jokes on April 1st. All
major newspapers always has one, and there are also a lot in TV. Thought,
that it was like that everywhere; we are always looking for these jokes on
this day. -And we usually catch most of them, when we se them. I thought,
that it would be easily seen as a joke-posting. For example, I wrote
"April 1st today" in the first reply in the thread. Personally, I think,
that it was at least a little bit funny, with some of those discussions
and the 'mess' of the photon. But maybe my Danish homour doesn't fit into
the English newsgroups.
The only thing that wasn't 100% pure kook was the absence of spelling
mistakes, and that is probably why you were taken seriously.
-It is NOT my fault, that so many people still make the error m_photon =
h*f/c^2. I don't, and I never did. The mass of the photon IS determined to
be 0.
:-)
PC
It all depends upon how you look at it ...
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| User: "Peter Christensen" |
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| Title: Re: I have an equation for the mass of the photon! |
03 Apr 2006 04:26:26 PM |
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily-diespamdie@optusnet.com.au> skrev i en meddelelse
news:44313bfa$0$10673$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
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I understand you (now), but I am from a part of the world where dates are
written that way. In the US it would be 4/1.
It's actually quite irritating, that somewhere it's called 1/4 and somewhere
else it's called 4/1. There should be an international standard. -A lot of
confusion.
The only thing that wasn't 100% pure kook was the absence of spelling
mistakes, and that is probably why you were taken seriously.
Because of TV and Internet, my English has become better than my native
Danish, I think. Another thing is to use the spell check, in for example MS
Outlook Express.
-It is NOT my fault, that so many people still make the error m_photon =
h*f/c^2. I don't, and I never did. The mass of the photon IS determined
to be 0.
:-)
PC
It all depends upon how you look at it ...
Yes, probably...
PC
_______________________________________
m_photon = 0^0 (undefined), but only on April 1st!
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: I have an equation for the mass of the photon! |
03 Apr 2006 04:35:16 PM |
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"Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily-diespamdie@optusnet.com.au> skrev i en meddelelse
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"Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
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I understand you (now), but I am from a part of the world where dates are
written that way. In the US it would be 4/1.
It's actually quite irritating, that somewhere it's called 1/4 and
somewhere else it's called 4/1. There should be an international
standard. -A lot of confusion.
IIRC the international standard is YYYY/MM/DD so it would read as
2006/04/01.
The "colonials" seem to like doing it MM/DD/YYYY which seems odd to me
personally but I suspect they view the DD/MM/YYYY I think is normal as a bit
strange.
As an example, for me, 9/11 is a totally different date to when the WTC got
hit....
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| User: "David R Tribble" |
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| Title: Re: I have an equation for the mass of the photon! |
03 Apr 2006 04:48:26 PM |
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Peter Webb skrev:
I understand you (now), but I am from a part of the world where dates are
written that way. In the US it would be 4/1.
Peter Christensen wrote:
It's actually quite irritating, that somewhere it's called 1/4 and
somewhere else it's called 4/1. There should be an international
standard. -A lot of confusion.
T Wake wrote:
IIRC the international standard is YYYY/MM/DD so it would read as
2006/04/01.
Actually, it's ISO 8601, with a format of "yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss".
The beauty of this format is that you can use a simple left-to-right
alphanumeric character comparison to sort date fields written
in this format.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO8601
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: I have an equation for the mass of the photon! |
03 Apr 2006 04:50:53 PM |
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"David R Tribble" <david@tribble.com> wrote in message
news:1144100906.801813.134320@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Peter Webb skrev:
I understand you (now), but I am from a part of the world where dates
are
written that way. In the US it would be 4/1.
Peter Christensen wrote:
It's actually quite irritating, that somewhere it's called 1/4 and
somewhere else it's called 4/1. There should be an international
standard. -A lot of confusion.
T Wake wrote:
IIRC the international standard is YYYY/MM/DD so it would read as
2006/04/01.
Actually, it's ISO 8601, with a format of "yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss".
The beauty of this format is that you can use a simple left-to-right
alphanumeric character comparison to sort date fields written
in this format.
Thought it was something like that. At work, the corporate conventions
dictate all document file names start with the yyyy-mm-dd date which,
initially, seemed very odd but once you get used to it is actually really
useful.
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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| Title: Re: I have an equation for the mass of the photon! |
03 Apr 2006 09:51:13 AM |
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"Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
news:443127b8$0$15791$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
|> April 1st today
|
| Honestly, I was surpriced, that my posting made some people quite upset,
and
| that some spend quite some effort to write replies with corrections. Sorry
| about that. I just expected a few people to reply with maybe a few lines
| about such a joke. I thought, that it would be just something like, what I
| would have replied on a joke-posting myself. Could have been something
like
| this:
|
| "It's obvious, that your posting is nothing but a JOKE. Tomorrow we will
be
| using m_photon = 0 again! This 'physics' is NOT to 5 stars. Here it is
1/4
| !" (Just 1/4 star, or 1/4 like 01-04 for April 1st)
|
| -And not more than that, in the same style.
|
| Here in Denmark, we have a great tradition with jokes on April 1st. All
| major newspapers always has one, and there are also a lot in TV. Thought,
| that it was like that everywhere; we are always looking for these jokes on
| this day. -And we usually catch most of them, when we se them. I thought,
| that it would be easily seen as a joke-posting. For example, I wrote
"April
| 1st today" in the first reply in the thread. Personally, I think, that it
| was at least a little bit funny, with some of those discussions and the
| 'mess' of the photon. But maybe my Danish homour doesn't fit into the
| English newsgroups.
|
| -It is NOT my fault, that so many people still make the error m_photon =
| h*f/c^2. I don't, and I never did. The mass of the photon IS determined to
| be 0.
|
| :-)
| PC
| ____________________
| m_photon = a_photon = 0
The problem is the same joke is heard 365 days a year, it's called
"relativity". Nobody can distinguish your joke from it.
Androcles.
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| User: "Bilge" |
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| Title: Re: I have an equation for the mass of the photon! |
04 Apr 2006 07:31:21 AM |
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Hexenmeister:
"Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
news:443127b8$0$15791$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
|> April 1st today
|
| Honestly, I was surpriced, that my posting made some people quite upset,
and
| that some spend quite some effort to write replies with corrections. Sorry
| about that. I just expected a few people to reply with maybe a few lines
| about such a joke. I thought, that it would be just something like, what I
| would have replied on a joke-posting myself. Could have been something
like
| this:
|
| "It's obvious, that your posting is nothing but a JOKE. Tomorrow we will
be
| using m_photon = 0 again! This 'physics' is NOT to 5 stars. Here it is
1/4
| !" (Just 1/4 star, or 1/4 like 01-04 for April 1st)
|
| -And not more than that, in the same style.
|
| Here in Denmark, we have a great tradition with jokes on April 1st. All
| major newspapers always has one, and there are also a lot in TV. Thought,
| that it was like that everywhere; we are always looking for these jokes on
| this day. -And we usually catch most of them, when we se them. I thought,
| that it would be easily seen as a joke-posting. For example, I wrote
"April
| 1st today" in the first reply in the thread. Personally, I think, that it
| was at least a little bit funny, with some of those discussions and the
| 'mess' of the photon. But maybe my Danish homour doesn't fit into the
| English newsgroups.
|
| -It is NOT my fault, that so many people still make the error m_photon =
| h*f/c^2. I don't, and I never did. The mass of the photon IS determined to
| be 0.
|
| :-)
| PC
| ____________________
| m_photon = a_photon = 0
The problem is the same joke is heard 365 days a year, it's called
``androsleaze,'' and it's pathetic.
"relativity". Nobody can distinguish your joke from it.
Androcles.
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| User: "Peter Christensen" |
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| Title: Re: I have an equation for the mass of the photon! |
06 Apr 2006 12:52:09 PM |
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"Bilge" <dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:slrne34tfa.5c.dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net...
Hexenmeister:
| -It is NOT my fault, that so many people still make the error m_photon
=
| h*f/c^2. I don't, and I never did. The mass of the photon IS determined
to
| be 0.
|
| :-)
| PC
| ____________________
| m_photon = a_photon = 0
The problem is the same joke is heard 365 days a year, it's called
``androsleaze,'' and it's pathetic.
Keine hexerei: Just begin studying some physics, and then continue to write
something smart (in every line) Mr. Hexenmeister...
Doesn't have alt.morons here ?:-)
PC
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| User: "Peter Christensen" |
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| Title: An equation for the mass of the photon: m = 0 |
03 Apr 2006 04:32:06 PM |
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"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_a> skrev i en meddelelse
news:BDaYf.166051$zk4.130058@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
The problem is the same joke is heard 365 days a year, it's called
"relativity". Nobody can distinguish your joke from it.
Androcles.
It's more than just a joke, I think.
PC
_______________________________________
m_photon = 0^0 (undefined), but only on April 1st!
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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| Title: Re: An equation for the mass of the photon: m = 0 |
04 Apr 2006 02:48:38 AM |
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"Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
news:44319455$0$15794$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
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| "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_a> skrev i en meddelelse
| news:BDaYf.166051$zk4.130058@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
|
| > The problem is the same joke is heard 365 days a year, it's called
| > "relativity". Nobody can distinguish your joke from it.
| > Androcles.
|
| It's more than just a joke, I think.
Really?
J.R.R. Tolkien wrote a fantasy story for children called
"The Hobbit (or There and Back Again)".
Einstein built his relativity fantasy for children on the speed
of light being there and back again.
"In agreement with experience we further assume the quantity
2AB/(t'A-tA) = c,
to be a universal constant--the velocity of light in empty space." --
Einstein.
Any sensible person would say AB/(tB-tA) = c.
In agreement with experience and without any assumption,
BA = -AB,
2AB = AC,
[AB +BA]/(t'A-tA) = 0
Hence c = 0 in Einstein's math.
Dividing by zero is actually undefined, but Einstein wove a fairy tale with
it.
That's the joke. Some shitheads are too stupid to see how funny it is.
The more devoutly they cling to the Holey Church of Relativity the
funnier they are. We get hilarious phrases like:
"Real" has nothing to do with it. --Tom Roberts
"observations of accretion disks near black holes" -- Tom Roberts
"Most physicists feel that the Spacetime Diagram Explanation is the
most fundamental." -- John Baez
"The spectral class [of stars] is determined by the relative positions and
intensities of the absorption lines, and these are unaffected by a Doppler
shift." -- Paul. B. Andersen.
Many can't see the joke even when it is explained to them:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Smart/Smart.htm
|
| PC
| _______________________________________
| m_photon = 0^0 (undefined), but only on April 1st!
Androcles
You can fool all of the people some of the time
and fool some of the people all of the time,
but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. -- Abraham Lincoln
c = (A'-A)/(t'A-tA) = 0/0, 365 All Fools days a year.
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| User: "Peter Christensen" |
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| Title: Re: An equation for the mass of the photon: m = 0 |
06 Apr 2006 11:50:54 AM |
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"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_a> skrev i en meddelelse
news:qxpYf.174636$zk4.1926@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
"Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
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|
| "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_a> skrev i en meddelelse
| news:BDaYf.166051$zk4.130058@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
|
| > The problem is the same joke is heard 365 days a year, it's called
| > "relativity". Nobody can distinguish your joke from it.
| > Androcles.
|
| It's more than just a joke, I think.
Really?
J.R.R. Tolkien wrote a fantasy story for children called
"The Hobbit (or There and Back Again)".
It's the old history of how things were before 'The Lord of the Rings', I
have read it. Here the hobbit finds the ring, which is the main theme in
'The Lord of the Rings'. There are actually 4 books, that you should read,
if you like Tolkien. First 'The Hobbit' and then the three volumes in 'The
Lord of the Rings'...
Einstein built his relativity fantasy for children on the speed
of light being there and back again.
He had a lot of time to do so...
"In agreement with experience we further assume the quantity
2AB/(t'A-tA) = c,
to be a universal constant--the velocity of light in empty space." --
Einstein.
It's one of the headlines: Empty space
Any sensible person would say AB/(tB-tA) = c.
In agreement with experience and without any assumption,
BA = -AB,
2AB = AC,
[AB +BA]/(t'A-tA) = 0
Hence c = 0 in Einstein's math.
We need to solve c = v + c, for v different from zero, if we should get
things working in an absolute space.
Dividing by zero is actually undefined, but Einstein wove a fairy tale
with
it.
The worst is, that it destroys computer programs completely with stupid
error messages...
That's the joke. Some shitheads are too stupid to see how funny it is.
The more devoutly they cling to the Holey Church of Relativity the
funnier they are. We get hilarious phrases like:
"Real" has nothing to do with it. --Tom Roberts
"observations of accretion disks near black holes" -- Tom Roberts
"Most physicists feel that the Spacetime Diagram Explanation is the
most fundamental." -- John Baez
"The spectral class [of stars] is determined by the relative positions
and
intensities of the absorption lines, and these are unaffected by a Doppler
shift." -- Paul. B. Andersen.
The thing that makes relativity relatively easy, in some sence, is that it
is 'real'. -At least there are no complex numbers in it at all... We never
succedded to find the particles with imaginary masses, which should be able
to travel faster than the speed of light.
Many can't see the joke even when it is explained to them:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Smart/Smart.htm
Just smart, or very smart?
PC
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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| Title: Re: An equation for the mass of the photon: m = 0 |
06 Apr 2006 04:32:48 PM |
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"Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
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|
| "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_a> skrev i en meddelelse
| news:qxpYf.174636$zk4.1926@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| >
| > "Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
| > news:44319455$0$15794$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
| > |
| > | "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_a> skrev i en meddelelse
| > | news:BDaYf.166051$zk4.130058@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| > |
| > | > The problem is the same joke is heard 365 days a year, it's called
| > | > "relativity". Nobody can distinguish your joke from it.
| > | > Androcles.
| > |
| > | It's more than just a joke, I think.
| >
| > Really?
| >
| > J.R.R. Tolkien wrote a fantasy story for children called
| > "The Hobbit (or There and Back Again)".
|
| It's the old history of how things were before 'The Lord of the Rings', I
| have read it. Here the hobbit finds the ring, which is the main theme in
| 'The Lord of the Rings'. There are actually 4 books, that you should read,
| if you like Tolkien. First 'The Hobbit' and then the three volumes in 'The
| Lord of the Rings'...
|
| > Einstein built his relativity fantasy for children on the speed
| > of light being there and back again.
|
| He had a lot of time to do so...
|
| > "In agreement with experience we further assume the quantity
| > 2AB/(t'A-tA) = c,
| > to be a universal constant--the velocity of light in empty space." --
| > Einstein.
|
| It's one of the headlines: Empty space
|
| > Any sensible person would say AB/(tB-tA) = c.
| > In agreement with experience and without any assumption,
| > BA = -AB,
| > 2AB = AC,
| >
| > [AB +BA]/(t'A-tA) = 0
| > Hence c = 0 in Einstein's math.
|
| We need to solve c = v + c, for v different from zero, if we should get
| things working in an absolute space.
We? Solve?
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Copernicus.exe
http://www.ebicom.net/~rsf1/sekerin.htm (fig 3)
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Synchronize/Synchronize.htm
http://www.britastro.org/vss/gifc/00918-ck.gif
No need for any "absolute" space.
| > Dividing by zero is actually undefined, but Einstein wove a fairy tale
| > with
| > it.
|
| The worst is, that it destroys computer programs completely with stupid
| error messages...
|
| > That's the joke. Some shitheads are too stupid to see how funny it is.
| > The more devoutly they cling to the Holey Church of Relativity the
| > funnier they are. We get hilarious phrases like:
| > "Real" has nothing to do with it. --Tom Roberts
| > "observations of accretion disks near black holes" -- Tom Roberts
| > "Most physicists feel that the Spacetime Diagram Explanation is the
| > most fundamental." -- John Baez
| > "The spectral class [of stars] is determined by the relative positions
| > and
| > intensities of the absorption lines, and these are unaffected by a
Doppler
| > shift." -- Paul. B. Andersen.
|
| The thing that makes relativity relatively easy, in some sence, is that it
| is 'real'. -At least there are no complex numbers in it at all... We never
| succedded to find the particles with imaginary masses, which should be
able
| to travel faster than the speed of light.
What are you babbling about?
Androcles.
|
| > Many can't see the joke even when it is explained to them:
| > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Smart/Smart.htm
|
| Just smart, or very smart?
|
| PC
|
|
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| User: "Peter Christensen" |
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| Title: Re: An equation for the mass of the photon: m = 0 |
07 Apr 2006 10:42:40 AM |
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"Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_b> skrev i en meddelelse
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"Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
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| > "Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
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| > | "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_a> skrev i en meddelelse
| > | news:BDaYf.166051$zk4.130058@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
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| > That's the joke. Some shitheads are too stupid to see how funny it is.
| > The more devoutly they cling to the Holey Church of Relativity the
| > funnier they are. We get hilarious phrases like:
| > "Real" has nothing to do with it. --Tom Roberts
| > "observations of accretion disks near black holes" -- Tom Roberts
| > "Most physicists feel that the Spacetime Diagram Explanation is the
| > most fundamental." -- John Baez
| > "The spectral class [of stars] is determined by the relative
positions
| > and
| > intensities of the absorption lines, and these are unaffected by a
Doppler
| > shift." -- Paul. B. Andersen.
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| The thing that makes relativity relatively easy, in some sence, is that
it
| is 'real'. -At least there are no complex numbers in it at all... We
never
| succedded to find the particles with imaginary masses, which should be
able
| to travel faster than the speed of light.
What are you babbling about?
What I was writing about was tachyons; a link to the Physics FAQ:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/ParticleAndNuclear/tachyons.html
PC
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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| Title: Re: An equation for the mass of the photon: m = 0 |
07 Apr 2006 03:46:53 PM |
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"Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
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| > "Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
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| > | "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_a> skrev i en meddelelse
| > | news:qxpYf.174636$zk4.1926@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| > | >
| > | > "Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
| > | > news:44319455$0$15794$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
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| > | > | "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_a> skrev i en meddelelse
| > | > | news:BDaYf.166051$zk4.130058@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
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| snip
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| > | > That's the joke. Some shitheads are too stupid to see how funny it
is.
| > | > The more devoutly they cling to the Holey Church of Relativity the
| > | > funnier they are. We get hilarious phrases like:
| > | > "Real" has nothing to do with it. --Tom Roberts
| > | > "observations of accretion disks near black holes" -- Tom Roberts
| > | > "Most physicists feel that the Spacetime Diagram Explanation is the
| > | > most fundamental." -- John Baez
| > | > "The spectral class [of stars] is determined by the relative
| > positions
| > | > and
| > | > intensities of the absorption lines, and these are unaffected by a
| > Doppler
| > | > shift." -- Paul. B. Andersen.
| > |
| > | The thing that makes relativity relatively easy, in some sence, is
that
| > it
| > | is 'real'. -At least there are no complex numbers in it at all... We
| > never
| > | succedded to find the particles with imaginary masses, which should be
| > able
| > | to travel faster than the speed of light.
| >
| > What are you babbling about?
|
| What I was writing about was tachyons; a link to the Physics FAQ:
| http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/ParticleAndNuclear/tachyons.html
Baez is an incompetent lunatic.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Baez/people_v_Baez.htm
"an observer approaching a source of light with the velocity c,
this source of light must appear of infinite intensity." --Lunatic
Einstein.
"Thence we conclude that a balance-clock at the equator must go
more slowly, by a very small amount, than a precisely similar clock
situated at one of the poles under otherwise identical
conditions." --Crackpot Einstein.
"the velocity of light in our theory plays the part, physically, of an
infinitely great velocity." --***** Einstein.
"Longitudinal mass = m / sqrt(1-v2/c2)^3
Transverse mass = m / (1-v2/c2)" -- Phuckwit Einstein
These are all clues to division by zero and only the clueless would
believe them.
The actual zero may be found in
"In agreement with experience we further assume the quantity
2AB/(t'A-tA) = c
to be a universal constant--the velocity of light in empty
space." --***** Einstein.
Notice that the light travels from A to A in time (t'A-tA), so c = 0/0.
Einstein wasn't discussing electrodynamics, he was advancing his own pet
theory. He knew nothing about electrodynamics.
Einstein in 1895 failed an examination that would have allowed him to study
for a diploma as an electrical engineer at the Eidgenössische Technische
Hochschule in Zurich (couldn't even pass the SATs). 10 year later he writes
his beer talk.
Source:
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Einstein.html
Androcles.
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| Title: Re: An equation for the mass of the photon: m = 0 |
10 Apr 2006 03:21:00 AM |
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Hexenmeister wrote:
<snip stream of shite>
you are a pathetic, pointless, cuntfaced, ***** obsessed, fool
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10 Apr 2006 03:34:50 AM |
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CrankHater wrote:
Hexenmeister wrote:
<snip stream of shite>
you are a pathetic, pointless, cuntfaced, ***** obsessed, fool
Androcles vs CrankHater - doesn't it just seem to be the same lovable,
eurdite and educated person with MPD?
SCW
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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| Title: Re: An equation for the mass of the photon: m = 0 |
10 Apr 2006 02:52:37 PM |
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| > Hexenmeister wrote:
| > > <snip stream of shite>
| >
| > you are a pathetic, pointless, cuntfaced, ***** obsessed, fool
|=20
| Androcles vs CrankHater - doesn't it just seem to be the same lovable,
| eurdite and educated person with MPD?
|=20
|=20
| SCW
Crankhater has been relegated to my killfile. I'll leave the idiot to =
hanson
and you. Since you are not smart enough to do more that unhide a=20
spreadsheet and tell me what I wrote you are marginally above=20
crankhater's intelligence level. He's not even intelligent enough to=20
download it. Hanson, on the other hand, would wipe you out.
Androcles.
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| Title: Re: An equation for the mass of the photon: m = 0 |
11 Apr 2006 10:24:46 AM |
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Hexenmeister wrote:
"SCW" <doune60@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1144658090.382903.293260@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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| CrankHater wrote:
| > Hexenmeister wrote:
| > > <snip stream of shite>
| >
| > you are a pathetic, pointless, cuntfaced, ***** obsessed, fool
|
| Androcles vs CrankHater - doesn't it just seem to be the same lovable,
| eurdite and educated person with MPD?
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| SCW
Crankhater has been relegated to my killfile.
You have a killfile !?!
..
[...] I'll leave the idiot to hanson
and you. Since you are not smart enough to do more that unhide a
spreadsheet and tell me what I wrote
Ooooh, its still smarts doesn't it - even after all these weeks.
Possibly it's because the truth hurts. Perhaps you forget that you
invited me to open your spreadsheets, and now that all the world can
see your caulcations, they can draw thier own conclusion on the
validity of your theories.
..
[...] you are marginally above
crankhater's intelligence level.
You're working in predictive IQ as well as destroying the false god of
relativity - you truly are a polymath.
..
[...] He's not even intelligent enough to
download it. Hanson, on the other hand, would wipe you out.
Androcles.
Who is Hanson and why are you relying on him to do your dirty work?
SCW
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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| Title: Re: An equation for the mass of the photon: m = 0 |
11 Apr 2006 01:31:10 PM |
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"SCW" <doune60@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message =
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| Hexenmeister wrote:
| > "SCW" <doune60@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message =
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| > |
| > | CrankHater wrote:
| > | > Hexenmeister wrote:
| > | > > <snip stream of shite>
| > | >
| > | > you are a pathetic, pointless, cuntfaced, ***** obsessed, fool
| > |
| > | Androcles vs CrankHater - doesn't it just seem to be the same =
lovable,
| > | eurdite and educated person with MPD?
| > |
| > |
| > | SCW
| >
| > Crankhater has been relegated to my killfile.
|=20
| You have a killfile !?!
Yes.
[snip drunken rambling]
Androcles.
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| User: "SCW" |
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| Title: Re: An equation for the mass of the photon: m = 0 |
11 Apr 2006 04:35:23 PM |
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Hexenmeister wrote:
"SCW" <doune60@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1144769086.428231.284040@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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| Hexenmeister wrote:
| > "SCW" <doune60@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1144658090.382903.293260@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > |
| > | CrankHater wrote:
| > | > Hexenmeister wrote:
| > | > > <snip stream of shite>
| > | >
| > | > you are a pathetic, pointless, cuntfaced, ***** obsessed, fool
| > |
| > | Androcles vs CrankHater - doesn't it just seem to be the same lovable,
| > | eurdite and educated person with MPD?
| > |
| > |
| > | SCW
| >
| > Crankhater has been relegated to my killfile.
|
| You have a killfile !?!
Yes.
[snip drunken rambling]
Androcles.
Nope, that's just you quoting me snipping you. Obviously that hurt too,
because that's also several weeks old.
Do you have anything that you thought of all on your own, bearing in
mind that you're not the first person to consider Einstein wrong?
SCW
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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| Title: Re: An equation for the mass of the photon: m = 0 |
11 Apr 2006 08:07:27 PM |
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|=20
| Hexenmeister wrote:
| > "SCW" <doune60@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message =
news:1144769086.428231.284040@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| > |
| > | Hexenmeister wrote:
| > | > "SCW" <doune60@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message =
news:1144658090.382903.293260@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > | > |
| > | > | CrankHater wrote:
| > | > | > Hexenmeister wrote:
| > | > | > > <snip stream of shite>
| > | > | >
| > | > | > you are a pathetic, pointless, cuntfaced, ***** obsessed, =
fool
| > | > |
| > | > | Androcles vs CrankHater - doesn't it just seem to be the same =
lovable,
| > | > | eurdite and educated person with MPD?
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | SCW
| > | >
| > | > Crankhater has been relegated to my killfile.
| > |
| > | You have a killfile !?!
| > Yes.
| > [snip drunken rambling]
| >
| > Androcles.
[snip drunken rambling]
Androcles.
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| User: "SCW" |
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| Title: Re: An equation for the mass of the photon: m = 0 |
12 Apr 2006 05:15:53 PM |
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Hexenmeister wrote:
"SCW" <doune60@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1144791323.479636.255090@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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| Hexenmeister wrote:
| > "SCW" <doune60@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1144769086.428231.284040@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| > |
| > | Hexenmeister wrote:
| > | > "SCW" <doune60@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1144658090.382903.293260@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > | > |
| > | > | CrankHater wrote:
| > | > | > Hexenmeister wrote:
| > | > | > > <snip stream of shite>
| > | > | >
| > | > | > you are a pathetic, pointless, cuntfaced, ***** obsessed, fool
| > | > |
| > | > | Androcles vs CrankHater - doesn't it just seem to be the same lovable,
| > | > | eurdite and educated person with MPD?
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | SCW
| > | >
| > | > Crankhater has been relegated to my killfile.
| > |
| > | You have a killfile !?!
| > Yes.
| > [snip drunken rambling]
| >
| > Androcles.
[snip drunken rambling]
Androcles.
Still hurts, huh?
SCW
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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| Title: Re: An equation for the mass of the photon: m = 0 |
13 Apr 2006 01:01:28 PM |
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|=20
| Hexenmeister wrote:
| > "SCW" <doune60@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message =
news:1144791323.479636.255090@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > |
| > | Hexenmeister wrote:
| > | > "SCW" <doune60@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message =
news:1144769086.428231.284040@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| > | > |
| > | > | Hexenmeister wrote:
| > | > | > "SCW" <doune60@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message =
news:1144658090.382903.293260@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | CrankHater wrote:
| > | > | > | > Hexenmeister wrote:
| > | > | > | > > <snip stream of shite>
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > you are a pathetic, pointless, cuntfaced, ***** obsessed, =
fool
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Androcles vs CrankHater - doesn't it just seem to be the =
same lovable,
| > | > | > | eurdite and educated person with MPD?
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | SCW
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Crankhater has been relegated to my killfile.
| > | > |
| > | > | You have a killfile !?!
| > | > Yes.
| > | > [snip drunken rambling]
| > | >
| > | > Androcles.
| > [snip drunken rambling]
| >=20
| > Androcles.
|=20
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|=20
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You are just not worth bothering with, stupid *****.
*plonk*
Androcles.
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10 Apr 2006 05:05:45 AM |
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SCW wrote:
CrankHater wrote:
Hexenmeister wrote:
<snip stream of shite>
you are a pathetic, pointless, cuntfaced, ***** obsessed, fool
Androcles vs CrankHater - doesn't it just seem to be the same lovable,
eurdite and educated person with MPD?
we are the same person......
when i am feeling gay and like to dress up as a woman i call myself
androcles
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| User: "Hexenmeister" |
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| Title: Re: An equation for the mass of the photon: m = 0 |
07 Apr 2006 03:42:32 PM |
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"Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
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| "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_b> skrev i en meddelelse
| news:4OfZf.27664$zI1.7196@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| >
| > "Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
| > news:443546ec$0$15784$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
| > |
| > | "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_a> skrev i en meddelelse
| > | news:qxpYf.174636$zk4.1926@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| > | >
| > | > "Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
| > | > news:44319455$0$15794$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
| > | > |
| > | > | "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_a> skrev i en meddelelse
| > | > | news:BDaYf.166051$zk4.130058@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
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| > | > That's the joke. Some shitheads are too stupid to see how funny it
is.
| > | > The more devoutly they cling to the Holey Church of Relativity the
| > | > funnier they are. We get hilarious phrases like:
| > | > "Real" has nothing to do with it. --Tom Roberts
| > | > "observations of accretion disks near black holes" -- Tom Roberts
| > | > "Most physicists feel that the Spacetime Diagram Explanation is the
| > | > most fundamental." -- John Baez
| > | > "The spectral class [of stars] is determined by the relative
| > positions
| > | > and
| > | > intensities of the absorption lines, and these are unaffected by a
| > Doppler
| > | > shift." -- Paul. B. Andersen.
| > |
| > | The thing that makes relativity relatively easy, in some sence, is
that
| > it
| > | is 'real'. -At least there are no complex numbers in it at all... We
| > never
| > | succedded to find the particles with imaginary masses, which should be
| > able
| > | to travel faster than the speed of light.
| >
| > What are you babbling about?
|
| What I was writing about was tachyons; a link to the Physics FAQ:
| http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/ParticleAndNuclear/tachyons.html
Baez is an incompetent lunatic.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Baez/people_v_Baez.htm
"an observer approaching a source of light with the velocity c,
this source of light must appear of infinite intensity." --Lunatic
Einstein.
"Thence we conclude that a balance-clock at the equator must go
more slowly, by a very small amount, than a precisely similar clock
situated at one of the poles under otherwise identical
conditions." --Crackpot Einstein.
"the velocity of light in our theory plays the part, physically, of an
infinitely great velocity." --***** Einstein.
"Longitudinal mass = m / sqrt(1-v²/c²)^3
Transverse mass = m / (1-v²/c²)" -- Phuckwit Einstein
These are all clues to division by zero and only the clueless would
believe them.
The actual zero may be found in
"In agreement with experience we further assume the quantity
2AB/(t'A-tA) = c
to be a universal constant--the velocity of light in empty
space." --***** Einstein.
Notice that the light travels from A to A in time (t'A-tA), so c = 0/0.
Einstein wasn't discussing electrodynamics, he was advancing his own pet
theory.
Androcles.
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| Title: Re: An equation for the mass of the photon: m = 0 |
07 Apr 2006 04:53:42 AM |
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"Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
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| > "Peter Christensen" <PeCh@MailAPS.org> wrote in message
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| > | "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_a> skrev i en meddelelse
| > | news:BDaYf.166051$zk4.130058@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
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| > | > The problem is the same joke is heard 365 days a year, it's called
| > | > "relativity". Nobody can distinguish your joke from it.
| > | > Androcles.
| > |
| > | It's more than just a joke, I think.
| >
| > Really?
| >
..
Yes
| We need to solve c = v + c, for v different from zero, if we should get
| things working in an absolute space.
We? Solve?
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Copernicus.exe
http://www.ebicom.net/~rsf1/sekerin.htm (fig 3)
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Synchronize/Synchronize.htm
http://www.britastro.org/vss/gifc/00918-ck.gif
No need for any "absolute" space.
No, definately not. Can't work like that, if c should be the same in all
systems...
PC
Ps. I hope, that you haven't put me on the filter-list, just because of my
joke-posting for April 1st. -Where I argued for, that the mass of the photon
should be undefined. And later that we could just use a 'mathetical symbol',
like 0^0, as a symbol for this. I know that m_photon = 0. -So I just used
something with some 0's in the posting.
news:443127b8$0$15791$14726298@news.sunsite.dk on Fools Day, April 1st.
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Now studying GR
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07 Apr 2006 03:42:32 PM |
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| > "Peter Christensen" <> wrote in message
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| > | "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_a> skrev i en meddelelse
| > | news:qxpYf.174636$zk4.1926@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| > | >
| > | > "Peter Christensen" <> wrote in message
| > | > news:44319455$0$15794$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
| > | > |
| > | > | "Hexenmeister" <vanquish@broom.Mickey_a> skrev i en meddelelse
| > | > | news:BDaYf.166051$zk4.130058@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| > | > |
| > | > | > The problem is the same joke is heard 365 days a year, it's
called
| > | > | > "relativity". Nobody can distinguish your joke from it.
| > | > | > Androcles.
| > | > |
| > | > | It's more than just a joke, I think.
| > | >
| > | > Really?
| > | >
| .
| Yes
|
| > | We need to solve c = v + c, for v different from zero, if we should
get
| > | things working in an absolute space.
| >
| > We? Solve?
| > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Copernicus.exe
| > http://www.ebicom.net/~rsf1/sekerin.htm (fig 3)
| >
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Synchronize/Synchronize.htm
| > http://www.britastro.org/vss/gifc/00918-ck.gif
| >
| > No need for any "absolute" space.
|
| No, definately not. Can't work like that, if c should be the same in all
| systems...
In hypothetical sentences introduced by 'if' and referring to
past time, where conditions are to be deemed 'unfulfilled',
the verb will regularly be found in the pluperfect subjunctive,
in both protasis and apodosis.
-- Donet, "Principles of Elementary Latin Syntax"
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| PC
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| Ps. I hope, that you haven't put me on the filter-list, just because of my
| joke-posting for April 1st. -Where I argued for, that the mass of the
photon
| should be undefined. And later that we could just use a 'mathetical
symbol',
| like 0^0, as a symbol for this. I know that m_photon = 0. -So I just used
| something with some 0's in the posting.
| news:443127b8$0$15791$14726298@news.sunsite.dk on Fools Day, April 1st.
Not at all. I'm quite discrimatory about the level of intelligence threshold
for killfiling.
There are fullwits, halfwits, dimwits, notnits and phuckwits.
Phuckwits are arrogant notnits, they normally get listed. Notwits, it
depends
on how boring they are. I sometimes run an amnesty to analyse and update
the demographics.
For example, kenshito and Phuckwit Duck are fully phledged phuckwits but
are currently not killfiled, whereas Stocklmeir is not particularly
arrogant, just
an incredibly boring notwit.
I usually classify someone that spells "definitely" with an 'a' as a
halfwit, especially
if they study GR without first fully understanding SR.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Smart/Smart.htm
Androcles.
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