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20 Dec 2004 04:50:08 PM |
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Infinity |
Does Infinity has a value? Does it depend on the Universe's size or
omega?
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| User: "Androcles" |
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| Title: Re: Infinity |
21 Dec 2004 12:16:38 AM |
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"maverick88" <wma@bk-dot-ru.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
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Does Infinity has a value?
No.
Does it depend on the Universe's size or
omega?
No.
Androcles.
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| User: "Old Man" |
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| Title: Re: Infinity |
20 Dec 2004 06:21:23 PM |
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"maverick88" <wma@bk-dot-ru.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
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Does Infinity has a value? Does it depend on the Universe's size or
omega?
All physical quantities are less than infinity . The observable
Universe is finite in extent and in time.
[Old Man]
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| User: "Nick" |
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| Title: Re: Infinity |
20 Dec 2004 08:02:24 PM |
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Old Man wrote:
"maverick88" <wma@bk-dot-ru.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:41c75720$1_1@Usenet.com...
Does Infinity has a value? Does it depend on the Universe's size or
omega?
All physical quantities are less than infinity . The observable
Universe is finite in extent and in time.
[Old Man]
What about the infinite redshift of light at the edge of
the so called "black hole?"
GR predicts light of infinite wavelength due to the infinite
gravitational redshift.
Energyless light?
Dead light?
What nonsense.
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| User: "Franz Heymann" |
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| Title: Re: Infinity |
21 Dec 2004 05:33:05 AM |
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"Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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What about the infinite redshift of light at the edge of
the so called "black hole?"
GR predicts light of infinite wavelength due to the infinite
gravitational redshift.
Energyless light?
Dead light?
What nonsense.
If you had familiarised yourself with the subject on which you thought
yourself fit to pronounce, you might possibly have emitted less
*****.
Franz
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| User: "Paul Cardinale" |
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| Title: Re: Infinity |
21 Dec 2004 05:21:20 PM |
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Nice. I'm going to save that. Is it original?
Paul Cardinale
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| User: "John Sefton" |
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| Title: Re: Infinity |
21 Dec 2004 12:53:35 PM |
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Old Man wrote:
"maverick88" <wma@bk-dot-ru.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:41c75720$1_1@Usenet.com...
Does Infinity has a value? Does it depend on the Universe's size or
omega?
All physical quantities are less than infinity . The observable
Universe is finite in extent and in time.
[Old Man]
Caveat word being "observable".
But if finite space, what is non-space?
If finite Time, what is non-Time?
You have just said both these exist.
Explain them.
John
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| User: "Franz Heymann" |
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21 Dec 2004 05:20:51 PM |
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"John Sefton" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
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Old Man wrote:
"maverick88" <wma@bk-dot-ru.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:41c75720$1_1@Usenet.com...
Does Infinity has a value? Does it depend on the Universe's size
or
omega?
All physical quantities are less than infinity . The observable
Universe is finite in extent and in time.
[Old Man]
Caveat word being "observable".
But if finite space, what is non-space?
Non-existent?
If finite Time, what is non-Time?
Non-existent?
You have just said both these exist.
Where did he say so?
Explain them.
Franz
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| User: "John Sefton" |
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| Title: Re: Infinity |
21 Dec 2004 11:50:37 PM |
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Franz Heymann wrote:
"John Sefton" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:41c87042$1@news.accesscomm.ca...
Old Man wrote:
"maverick88" <wma@bk-dot-ru.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:41c75720$1_1@Usenet.com...
Does Infinity has a value? Does it depend on the Universe's size
or
omega?
All physical quantities are less than infinity . The observable
Universe is finite in extent and in time.
[Old Man]
Caveat word being "observable".
But if finite space, what is non-space?
Non-existent?
If finite Time, what is non-Time?
Non-existent?
You have just said both these exist.
Where did he say so?
Explain them.
Franz
Finite means "ends".
Then what?
John
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| User: "Franz Heymann" |
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22 Dec 2004 01:24:51 AM |
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"John Sefton" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
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Franz Heymann wrote:
"John Sefton" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:41c87042$1@news.accesscomm.ca...
Old Man wrote:
"maverick88" <wma@bk-dot-ru.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:41c75720$1_1@Usenet.com...
Does Infinity has a value? Does it depend on the Universe's size
or
omega?
All physical quantities are less than infinity . The observable
Universe is finite in extent and in time.
[Old Man]
Caveat word being "observable".
But if finite space, what is non-space?
Non-existent?
If finite Time, what is non-Time?
Non-existent?
You have just said both these exist.
Where did he say so?
Explain them.
Franz
Finite means "ends".
No. Where is the end of the surface of a sphere?
Then what?
Franz
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| User: "John Sefton" |
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| Title: Re: Infinity |
22 Dec 2004 03:04:20 AM |
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Franz Heymann wrote:
"John Sefton" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:41c90a38$1@news.accesscomm.ca...
Franz Heymann wrote:
"John Sefton" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:41c87042$1@news.accesscomm.ca...
Old Man wrote:
"maverick88" <wma@bk-dot-ru.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:41c75720$1_1@Usenet.com...
Does Infinity has a value? Does it depend on the Universe's size
or
omega?
All physical quantities are less than infinity . The observable
Universe is finite in extent and in time.
[Old Man]
Caveat word being "observable".
But if finite space, what is non-space?
Non-existent?
If finite Time, what is non-Time?
Non-existent?
You have just said both these exist.
Where did he say so?
Explain them.
Franz
Finite means "ends".
No. Where is the end of the surface of a sphere?
Then what?
Franz
So the universe doesn't end if it contains spheres?
John
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| User: "Old Man" |
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| Title: Re: Infinity |
22 Dec 2004 02:47:20 AM |
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"John Sefton" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:41c87042$1@news.accesscomm.ca...
Old Man wrote:
"maverick88" <wma@bk-dot-ru.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:41c75720$1_1@Usenet.com...
Does Infinity has a value? Does it depend on the Universe's size or
omega?
All physical quantities are less than infinity . The observable
Universe is finite in extent and in time.
[Old Man]
Caveat word being "observable".
But if finite space, what is non-space?
If finite Time, what is non-Time?
You have just said both these exist.
Explain them.
John
Causality runs no faster than the speed of light. Your light
cone defines the realm of space and time. Causality doesn't
couple to supposed events out of space and time. Any
supposed physical causes and / or consequences are strictly
imaginary.
[Old Man]
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| User: "tadchem" |
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| Title: Re: Infinity |
21 Dec 2004 02:08:28 PM |
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John Sefton wrote:
Old Man wrote:
All physical quantities are less than infinity . The observable
Universe is finite in extent and in time.
Caveat word being "observable".
But if finite space, what is non-space?
Unobservable.
If finite Time, what is non-Time?
Also unobservable.
You have just said both these exist.
No, he didn't.
Explain them.
OM said that the universe is finite in both space and time. He admits
that time and space exist, but that they are finite.
He said nothing about "non-space" or "non-time." Those are *your*
words. *You* tell us about them.
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Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: Infinity |
20 Dec 2004 05:24:13 PM |
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maverick88 wrote:
Does Infinity has a value? Does it depend on the Universe's size or
omega?
Usenet's cloaca,
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Which infinity?
1) The number of integers?
2) The number of points on a line?
3) The number of functions through a point?
Georg Cantor worked this out. Why don't you screw your lazy ***** into
a chair and Google his work?
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "robert j. kolker" |
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| Title: Re: Infinity |
20 Dec 2004 05:20:46 PM |
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maverick88 wrote:
Does Infinity has a value? Does it depend on the Universe's size or
omega?
Infinity is a property of sets and classes. Since the entities to which
the predicate "infinite" apply are abstractions they are nowhere to be
found in physical space and time. Infinity is an idea, not a substantial
property like hardness or softness.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Infinity |
20 Dec 2004 04:58:35 PM |
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maverick88 wrote:
Does Infinity has a value? Does it depend on the Universe's size or
omega?
See: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Infinity.html
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