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"Chris Carlen" |
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06 Oct 2005 10:13:07 AM |
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Is this experiment reproducible or valid? |
Greetings:
Yesterday I ran across this:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0503052
I'm wondering what kind of criticisms apply, and whether or not this
experiment or something like it has been reproduced?
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Good day!
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Christopher R. Carlen
Principal Laser&Electronics Technologist
Sandia National Laboratories CA USA
crcarleRemoveThis@BOGUSsandia.gov
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| User: "Robert J. Kolker" |
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| Title: Re: Is this experiment reproducible or valid? |
06 Oct 2005 11:49:16 AM |
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Chris Carlen wrote:
Greetings:
Yesterday I ran across this:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0503052
I'm wondering what kind of criticisms apply, and whether or not this
experiment or something like it has been reproduced?
Relax. There is no indication that information or energy has be
transferred superluminally.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "CWatters" |
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| Title: Re: Is this experiment reproducible or valid? |
06 Oct 2005 05:07:05 PM |
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"Robert J. Kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Chris Carlen wrote:
Greetings:
Yesterday I ran across this:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0503052
I'm wondering what kind of criticisms apply, and whether or not this
experiment or something like it has been reproduced?
Relax. There is no indication that information or energy has be
transferred superluminally.
Perhaps... but what an interesting paper.
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| User: "Greysky" |
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| Title: Re: Is this experiment reproducible or valid? |
06 Oct 2005 03:20:27 PM |
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"Robert J. Kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:3ql2smFfj42nU1@individual.net...
Chris Carlen wrote:
Greetings:
Yesterday I ran across this:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0503052
I'm wondering what kind of criticisms apply, and whether or not this
experiment or something like it has been reproduced?
Relax. There is no indication that information or energy has be
transferred superluminally.
How can you say that? When one sample is shown to release photons only when
the other sample is being manipulated, there is indeed a useful transfer of
meaningful information occuring. Now, much more carefully thought out tests
need to be done to prove there is no other connection between the two
samples... but if it is true then you have the makings of a faster than
light binary transmitter. Sounds like someone is reading and taking the
information on my web site seriously... they're only 2 decades behind me.
Greysky
www.allocations.cc
Learn how to build a FTL radio.
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| User: "Chris Carlen" |
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| Title: Re: Is this experiment reproducible or valid? |
06 Oct 2005 05:35:15 PM |
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Robert J. Kolker wrote:
Chris Carlen wrote:
Greetings:
Yesterday I ran across this:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0503052
I'm wondering what kind of criticisms apply, and whether or not this
experiment or something like it has been reproduced?
Relax. There is no indication that information or energy has be
transferred superluminally.
Bob Kolker
It is obvious that no energy is transfered in entanglement experiments.
However, there does appear to be the transfer of "information."
Does present physical theory predict that "information" cannot be
transfered instantly, or that only matter and energy cannot?
--
Good day!
________________________________________
Christopher R. Carlen
Principal Laser&Electronics Technologist
Sandia National Laboratories CA USA
crcarleRemoveThis@BOGUSsandia.gov
NOTE, delete texts: "RemoveThis" and
"BOGUS" from email address to reply.
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| User: "Greysky" |
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| Title: Re: Is this experiment reproducible or valid? |
06 Oct 2005 06:06:53 PM |
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"Chris Carlen" <crcarleRemoveThis@BOGUSsandia.gov> wrote in message
news:di48r30ne9@news1.newsguy.com...
Robert J. Kolker wrote:
Chris Carlen wrote:
Greetings:
Yesterday I ran across this:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0503052
I'm wondering what kind of criticisms apply, and whether or not this
experiment or something like it has been reproduced?
Relax. There is no indication that information or energy has be
transferred superluminally.
Bob Kolker
It is obvious that no energy is transfered in entanglement experiments.
However, there does appear to be the transfer of "information."
Does present physical theory predict that "information" cannot be
transfered instantly, or that only matter and energy cannot?
I really depends on your definition of information. Relativity precludes the
propagation of energy at speeds faster than light, and since information is
usually modulated on an energetic carrier, it would mean information is
limited to the propagation speed of the carrier. If you have no carrier,
information propagation is unbounded and can lead to paradoxes but there are
also ways around this as well. The short version is to note there is
currently no way to tell imaginary information from real (read complex)
information, so the only true bound is whatever is placed on imaginary
systems.
Greysky
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