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"Autymn D. C." |
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03 Oct 2005 08:29:38 AM |
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just sent this to Steve Jobs |
Oh, if you're interested in the thread with references on how Macs have
long been cheaper than PCs, try here:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/f37dd5fdacbe9736?tvc=1.
Read mine first.
-Aut
Subject: Virtual PC, PearPC, OrangePC, Intel, AMD, CardBus, Mighty
Mouse, iPod, Powerbook infinity?
Date: 3 October 2005 05.47.59 PDT
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/8f4d8d9ae28646b9/4a0411420de37da2#4a0411420de37da2>
Can you seriously turn down AMD for Intel? Are you aware how much
Intel, like Windows, has been a scam of money over power that has
irreversibly harmed the world both in our resources and our image?
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/a9bb79a036518a11/3c6655d3d46f31a6?q=%22threatens+to+Kill+Google%22&rnum=1#3c6655d3d46f31a6>
And the Mighty Mouse was completely unnecessary. In the eBay forum I
argued that Macs have long supported at least 16 kinds of clicks by the
keyboard. And for efficiency and multifunctionality(!), it's much more
sensible to develop a trackpad than a mouse from Apple, that can
emulate just about any input device.
Oh, I sent feedback about the iPod's lack and repeated it in the
newsgroup, which developed a thread that expanded on my wants and
wishes from it:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/ad36c23deb54d134/5c9736d3d65c9cb2?q=%22sent+this+to%22&rnum=1#5c9736d3d65c9cb2>.
It should even bring a new market for the iPod.
-Aut
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| User: "Nicholas Buenk" |
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| Title: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
03 Oct 2005 01:26:43 PM |
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"Autymn D. C." <lysdexia@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1128346178.557165.60350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Oh, if you're interested in the thread with references on how Macs have
long been cheaper than PCs, try here:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/f37dd5fdacbe9736?tvc=1.
Read mine first.
-Aut
Subject: Virtual PC, PearPC, OrangePC, Intel, AMD, CardBus, Mighty
Mouse, iPod, Powerbook infinity?
Date: 3 October 2005 05.47.59 PDT
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/8f4d8d9ae28646b9/4a0411420de37da2#4a0411420de37da2>
Can you seriously turn down AMD for Intel? Are you aware how much
Intel, like Windows, has been a scam of money over power that has
irreversibly harmed the world both in our resources and our image?
Intel gives computer markers a whole chipset and cpu together in one
package, it's a saving for them, when if you go AMD you need to make a
seperate deal with the chipset makers. This mainly applies to notebooks, the
whole centrino thing is a very good deal for computer markers.
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/a9bb79a036518a11/3c6655d3d46f31a6?q=%22threatens+to+Kill+Google%22&rnum=1#3c6655d3d46f31a6>
And the Mighty Mouse was completely unnecessary. In the eBay forum I
argued that Macs have long supported at least 16 kinds of clicks by the
keyboard. And for efficiency and multifunctionality(!), it's much more
sensible to develop a trackpad than a mouse from Apple, that can
emulate just about any input device.
That's a weird opinion.
Oh, I sent feedback about the iPod's lack and repeated it in the
newsgroup, which developed a thread that expanded on my wants and
wishes from it:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/ad36c23deb54d134/5c9736d3d65c9cb2?q=%22sent+this+to%22&rnum=1#5c9736d3d65c9cb2>.
It should even bring a new market for the iPod.
-Aut
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
03 Oct 2005 01:45:42 PM |
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"Autymn D. C." wrote:
Oh, if you're interested in the thread with references on how Macs have
long been cheaper than PCs, try here:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/f37dd5fdacbe9736?tvc=1.
Read mine first.
-Aut
Subject: Virtual PC, PearPC, OrangePC, Intel, AMD, CardBus, Mighty
Mouse, iPod, Powerbook infinity?
Date: 3 October 2005 05.47.59 PDT
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/8f4d8d9ae28646b9/4a0411420de37da2#4a0411420de37da2>
Can you seriously turn down AMD for Intel? Are you aware how much
Intel, like Windows, has been a scam of money over power that has
irreversibly harmed the world both in our resources and our image?
[snip]
Amen. Dig the dual-core Opterons - 32- and 64-bit compatible, x86
compatible, low power consumption, faster throughput, vastly larger
memory bandwidth with controller on-chip... and cheaper than the Intel
competition.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
10 Oct 2005 05:05:25 PM |
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Autymn D. C. wrote:
Oh, if you're interested in the thread with references on how Macs have
long been cheaper than PCs, try here:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/f37dd5fdacbe9736?tvc=1.
Read mine first.
-Aut
Subject: Virtual PC, PearPC, OrangePC, Intel, AMD, CardBus, Mighty
Mouse, iPod, Powerbook infinity?
Date: 3 October 2005 05.47.59 PDT
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/8f4d8d9ae28646b9/4a0411420de37da2#4a0411420de37da2>
Can you seriously turn down AMD for Intel? Are you aware how much
Intel, like Windows, has been a scam of money over power that has
irreversibly harmed the world both in our resources and our image?
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/a9bb79a036518a11/3c6655d3d46f31a6?q=%22threatens+to+Kill+Google%22&rnum=1#3c6655d3d46f31a6>
And the Mighty Mouse was completely unnecessary. In the eBay forum I
argued that Macs have long supported at least 16 kinds of clicks by the
keyboard. And for efficiency and multifunctionality(!), it's much more
sensible to develop a trackpad than a mouse from Apple, that can
emulate just about any input device.
Oh, I sent feedback about the iPod's lack and repeated it in the
newsgroup, which developed a thread that expanded on my wants and
wishes from it:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/ad36c23deb54d134/5c9736d3d65c9cb2?q=%22sent+this+to%22&rnum=1#5c9736d3d65c9cb2>.
It should even bring a new market for the iPod.
-Aut
don't be to surprised of jobs doesn't bother responding to this
garbage.
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| User: "Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors" |
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| Title: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
03 Oct 2005 01:04:23 PM |
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Autymn D. C. wrote:
Oh, if you're interested in the thread with references on how Macs have
long been cheaper than PCs, try here:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/f37dd5fdacbe9736?tvc=1.
Read mine first.
-Aut
If you want to be a nerd who gets things done, use Linux.
If you want ease of use, windows is the way.
About the only reason you should own a mac, is if you're a graphic
designer.
You're not a graphic designer Autymn. Time to buy a new computer.
Subject: Virtual PC, PearPC, OrangePC, Intel, AMD, CardBus, Mighty
Mouse, iPod, Powerbook infinity?
Date: 3 October 2005 05.47.59 PDT
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/8f4d8d9ae28646b9/4a0411420de37da2#4a0411420de37da2>
Can you seriously turn down AMD for Intel? Are you aware how much
Intel, like Windows, has been a scam of money over power that has
irreversibly harmed the world both in our resources and our image?
AMD versus Intel is a mixed bag. Both make fine processors, and have
different strengths and weaknesses, for example Intel ones are
generally better at image decompression and reading memory blocks,
while AMD has much better floating point performance etc...
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/a9bb79a036518a11/3c6655d3d46f31a6?q=%22threatens+to+Kill+Google%22&rnum=1#3c6655d3d46f31a6>
And the Mighty Mouse was completely unnecessary. In the eBay forum I
argued that Macs have long supported at least 16 kinds of clicks by the
keyboard. And for efficiency and multifunctionality(!), it's much more
sensible to develop a trackpad than a mouse from Apple, that can
emulate just about any input device.
The clunky one-button mouse is one of the stupidest products ever
devised.
Once you've used a normal mouse, you won't want to go back.
Oh, I sent feedback about the iPod's lack and repeated it in the
newsgroup, which developed a thread that expanded on my wants and
wishes from it:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/ad36c23deb54d134/5c9736d3d65c9cb2?q=%22sent+this+to%22&rnum=1#5c9736d3d65c9cb2>.
It should even bring a new market for the iPod.
I couldn't be bothered reading any of these threads, but I will say
this:
Apple should go into the mp3 player business fulltime, and leave
computers to those who do it better.
--
http://cherenkov-radiation.blogspot.com/
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| User: "Nicholas Buenk" |
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| Title: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
03 Oct 2005 01:38:39 PM |
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"Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors" <cwocwocwo@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1128362663.466462.35010@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Autymn D. C. wrote:
Oh, if you're interested in the thread with references on how Macs have
long been cheaper than PCs, try here:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/f37dd5fdacbe9736?tvc=1.
Read mine first.
-Aut
If you want to be a nerd who gets things done, use Linux.
If you want ease of use, windows is the way.
If you want both of these at the same time, OSX is the way.
About the only reason you should own a mac, is if you're a graphic
designer.
You're not a graphic designer Autymn. Time to buy a new computer.
Subject: Virtual PC, PearPC, OrangePC, Intel, AMD, CardBus, Mighty
Mouse, iPod, Powerbook infinity?
Date: 3 October 2005 05.47.59 PDT
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/8f4d8d9ae28646b9/4a0411420de37da2#4a0411420de37da2>
Can you seriously turn down AMD for Intel? Are you aware how much
Intel, like Windows, has been a scam of money over power that has
irreversibly harmed the world both in our resources and our image?
AMD versus Intel is a mixed bag. Both make fine processors, and have
different strengths and weaknesses, for example Intel ones are
generally better at image decompression and reading memory blocks,
while AMD has much better floating point performance etc...
Actually Intel isn't really that good with interger or floating point
performance. What they are good at is vector performance, important for
things like vidoe encoding. And anyway, I'd argue that interger performance
is of lower importance today, as most tasks a computer does can be done
equally well on 5 year old hardware. It's vector and floating point
performance that still drives demand for more powerful CPU's.
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/a9bb79a036518a11/3c6655d3d46f31a6?q=%22threatens+to+Kill+Google%22&rnum=1#3c6655d3d46f31a6>
And the Mighty Mouse was completely unnecessary. In the eBay forum I
argued that Macs have long supported at least 16 kinds of clicks by the
keyboard. And for efficiency and multifunctionality(!), it's much more
sensible to develop a trackpad than a mouse from Apple, that can
emulate just about any input device.
The clunky one-button mouse is one of the stupidest products ever
devised.
Once you've used a normal mouse, you won't want to go back.
Right, but OSX does have excellent support for all manner of mice, with
support for multiple buttons, scroll wheel and right click context menus.
Oh, I sent feedback about the iPod's lack and repeated it in the
newsgroup, which developed a thread that expanded on my wants and
wishes from it:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/ad36c23deb54d134/5c9736d3d65c9cb2?q=%22sent+this+to%22&rnum=1#5c9736d3d65c9cb2>.
It should even bring a new market for the iPod.
I couldn't be bothered reading any of these threads, but I will say
this:
Apple should go into the mp3 player business fulltime, and leave
computers to those who do it better.
Apple does a equally good just with computers. But it's hard for them break
into the market in a major way because their computers won't run mostof the
software on the market, a similar reason for why linux market share is tiny
compared to windows.
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| User: "George Graves" |
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| Title: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
03 Oct 2005 03:37:05 PM |
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In article <43417aaf$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>,
"Nicholas Buenk" <morn@tpg.com.au> wrote:
<snip>
Apple does a equally good just with computers. But it's hard for them break
into the market in a major way because their computers won't run mostof the
software on the market, a similar reason for why linux market share is tiny
compared to windows.
Don't you just love uninformed opinions?
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| User: "Bob Cain" |
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03 Oct 2005 09:14:42 PM |
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George Graves wrote:
In article <43417aaf$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>,
"Nicholas Buenk" <morn@tpg.com.au> wrote:
<snip>
Apple does a equally good just with computers. But it's hard for them break
into the market in a major way because their computers won't run mostof the
software on the market, a similar reason for why linux market share is tiny
compared to windows.
Don't you just love uninformed opinions?
How does yours differ?
Bob
--
"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."
A. Einstein
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| User: "Bill Davidsen" |
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03 Oct 2005 04:00:10 PM |
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Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors wrote:
Autymn D. C. wrote:
Oh, if you're interested in the thread with references on how Macs have
long been cheaper than PCs, try here:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/f37dd5fdacbe9736?tvc=1.
Read mine first.
-Aut
If you want to be a nerd who gets things done, use Linux.
If you want ease of use, windows is the way.
If you want to read/send Email, browse the web, do a little writing and
build a spreadsheet or two, there's little difference between Windows
and Linux, except you can get a complete Linux system from Wal-Mart for
<$300. The Linspire system doesn't fall over all the time, nag you to
register, make the headlines with new security holes.
It's not a ease of use decision, it's the application software, if you
need a certain program it's more likely on Windows, if you just need
functionality in most cases you can use Linux. As you say, you will
find, download, and install it yourself.
--
bill davidsen
SBC/Prodigy Yorktown Heights NY data center
http://newsgroups.news.prodigy.com
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| User: "Nicholas Buenk" |
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04 Oct 2005 12:13:08 AM |
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"Bill Davidsen" <davidsen@deathstar.prodigy.com> wrote in message
news:uZg0f.159$AY4.52@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net...
Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors wrote:
Autymn D. C. wrote:
Oh, if you're interested in the thread with references on how Macs have
long been cheaper than PCs, try here:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/f37dd5fdacbe9736?tvc=1.
Read mine first.
-Aut
If you want to be a nerd who gets things done, use Linux.
If you want ease of use, windows is the way.
If you want to read/send Email, browse the web, do a little writing and
build a spreadsheet or two, there's little difference between Windows and
Linux, except you can get a complete Linux system from Wal-Mart for <$300.
The mac mini is for this sort of niche.
The Linspire system doesn't fall over all the time, nag you to register,
make the headlines with new security holes.
Nor does OSX.
It's not a ease of use decision, it's the application software, if you
need a certain program it's more likely on Windows, if you just need
functionality in most cases you can use Linux. As you say, you will find,
download, and install it yourself.
--
bill davidsen
SBC/Prodigy Yorktown Heights NY data center
http://newsgroups.news.prodigy.com
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| User: "Peter =?UTF-8?B?S8O2aGxtYW5u?=" |
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| Title: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
04 Oct 2005 02:46:41 AM |
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begin virus.txt.scr Nicholas Buenk wrote:
"Bill Davidsen" <davidsen@deathstar.prodigy.com> wrote in message
news:uZg0f.159$AY4.52@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net...
Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors wrote:
Autymn D. C. wrote:
Oh, if you're interested in the thread with references on how Macs have
long been cheaper than PCs, try here:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/f37dd5fdacbe9736?tvc=1.
Read mine first.
-Aut
If you want to be a nerd who gets things done, use Linux.
If you want ease of use, windows is the way.
If you want to read/send Email, browse the web, do a little writing and
build a spreadsheet or two, there's little difference between Windows and
Linux, except you can get a complete Linux system from Wal-Mart for
<$300.
The mac mini is for this sort of niche.
Actually, no, it isn't. It costs at least twice as much
Without any actual benefit except that it is very quiet
The Linspire system doesn't fall over all the time, nag you to register,
make the headlines with new security holes.
Nor does OSX.
And?
--
Tact, n.:
The unsaid part of what you're thinking.
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| User: "Rgdawson" |
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03 Oct 2005 04:44:00 PM |
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Bill Davidsen <davidsen@deathstar.prodigy.com> wrote:
If you want to be a nerd who gets things done, use Linux.
If you want ease of use, windows is the way.
If you want to read/send Email, browse the web, do a little writing and
build a spreadsheet or two, there's little difference between Windows
and Linux, except you can get a complete Linux system from Wal-Mart for
<$300. The Linspire system doesn't fall over all the time, nag you to
register, make the headlines with new security holes.
ah, Wal-Mart no longer sells any Linux Machines.
Sorry to break the news!
http://www.walmart.com/
They've Joined CompUSA after they found it's no longer, useful or
popular. Linux is fading.
It's not a ease of use decision, it's the application software, if you
need a certain program it's more likely on Windows, if you just need
functionality in most cases you can use Linux. As you say, you will
find, download, and install it yourself.
Yes, but the Mac OS is the king of Applications, while Windows has more,
Apple has much better Apps, Linux has neither for the general consumer.
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| User: "Jim Richardson" |
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| Title: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
03 Oct 2005 07:50:10 PM |
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 15:44:00 -0600,
Rgdawson <rgdonn@paccbell.net> wrote:
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@deathstar.prodigy.com> wrote:
If you want to be a nerd who gets things done, use Linux.
If you want ease of use, windows is the way.
If you want to read/send Email, browse the web, do a little writing and
build a spreadsheet or two, there's little difference between Windows
and Linux, except you can get a complete Linux system from Wal-Mart for
<$300. The Linspire system doesn't fall over all the time, nag you to
register, make the headlines with new security holes.
ah, Wal-Mart no longer sells any Linux Machines.
Sorry to break the news!
http://www.walmart.com/
They've Joined CompUSA after they found it's no longer, useful or
popular. Linux is fading.
<http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3762911>
"
New Linspire version Five-0 pre-installed
CNR Service FREE 15-day Trial Offer
Complete MS Office file-compatible Office Suite
"
" Linspire Linux is an easy-to-use, full-featured desktop operating
system that is totally familiar for Windows users of all experience
levels. Linspire comes with everything you need to browse the Internet,
instant message, e-mail, share and write documents, work with digital
photos, listen to music, play games and much more. "
Oxford full of ***** again? say it isn't so....
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Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny.
-- Lazarus Long
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| User: "Rick" |
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| Title: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
03 Oct 2005 08:37:36 PM |
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 17:50:10 -0700, Jim Richardson wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 15:44:00 -0600,
Rgdawson <rgdonn@paccbell.net> wrote:
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@deathstar.prodigy.com> wrote:
If you want to be a nerd who gets things done, use Linux.
If you want ease of use, windows is the way.
If you want to read/send Email, browse the web, do a little writing and
build a spreadsheet or two, there's little difference between Windows
and Linux, except you can get a complete Linux system from Wal-Mart for
<$300. The Linspire system doesn't fall over all the time, nag you to
register, make the headlines with new security holes.
ah, Wal-Mart no longer sells any Linux Machines.
Sorry to break the news!
http://www.walmart.com/
They've Joined CompUSA after they found it's no longer, useful or
popular. Linux is fading.
<http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3762911>
"
New Linspire version Five-0 pre-installed
CNR Service FREE 15-day Trial Offer
Complete MS Office file-compatible Office Suite
"
" Linspire Linux is an easy-to-use, full-featured desktop operating
system that is totally familiar for Windows users of all experience
levels. Linspire comes with everything you need to browse the Internet,
instant message, e-mail, share and write documents, work with digital
photos, listen to music, play games and much more. "
Oxford full of ***** again? say it isn't so....
I can't wait to see how he tries to explain away this and the Xandros
machines.
--
Rick
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| User: "Rgdawson" |
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| Title: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
03 Oct 2005 09:17:38 PM |
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Rick <none@nomail.com> wrote:
<http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3762911>
"
New Linspire version Five-0 pre-installed
CNR Service FREE 15-day Trial Offer
Complete MS Office file-compatible Office Suite
"
" Linspire Linux is an easy-to-use, full-featured desktop operating
system that is totally familiar for Windows users of all experience
levels. Linspire comes with everything you need to browse the Internet,
instant message, e-mail, share and write documents, work with digital
photos, listen to music, play games and much more. "
Oxford full of ***** again? say it isn't so....
I can't wait to see how he tries to explain away this and the Xandros
machines.
wal-mart's solaris based servers sure suck at finding Linux! they
certainly don't show any Linux machines by searching for Linux in the
search fields of the entire site or in electronics. Walmart is probably
embarrassed by selling such low margin, low profit products so they bury
them.
So I guess, if you really dig at the back of the online store you can
find them, but most any shopper for Linux will think they don't sell
them. They certainly aren't under "Linux".
:)
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| User: "Jim Richardson" |
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| Title: Re: just sent this to Steve Jobs |
03 Oct 2005 11:12:09 PM |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 20:17:38 -0600,
Rgdawson <rgdonn@paccbell.net> wrote:
Rick <none@nomail.com> wrote:
<http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3762911>
"
New Linspire version Five-0 pre-installed
CNR Service FREE 15-day Trial Offer
Complete MS Office file-compatible Office Suite
"
" Linspire Linux is an easy-to-use, full-featured desktop operating
system that is totally familiar for Windows users of all experience
levels. Linspire comes with everything you need to browse the Internet,
instant message, e-mail, share and write documents, work with digital
photos, listen to music, play games and much more. "
Oxford full of ***** again? say it isn't so....
I can't wait to see how he tries to explain away this and the Xandros
machines.
wal-mart's solaris based servers sure suck at finding Linux! they
certainly don't show any Linux machines by searching for Linux in the
search fields of the entire site or in electronics. Walmart is probably
embarrassed by selling such low margin, low profit products so they bury
them.
So I guess, if you really dig at the back of the online store you can
find them, but most any shopper for Linux will think they don't sell
them. They certainly aren't under "Linux".
:)
As predicted Rick, Oxford waffles away his false claim that Walmart no
longer sold Linux machines.
It's almost as funny as his claims re: Distrowatch stats.... Almost.
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E pluribus Linux
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03 Oct 2005 10:16:10 PM |
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 20:17:38 -0600, Rgdawson wrote:
Rick <none@nomail.com> wrote:
<http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3762911>
"
New Linspire version Five-0 pre-installed
CNR Service FREE 15-day Trial Offer
Complete MS Office file-compatible Office Suite
"
" Linspire Linux is an easy-to-use, full-featured desktop operating
system that is totally familiar for Windows users of all experience
levels. Linspire comes with everything you need to browse the Internet,
instant message, e-mail, share and write documents, work with digital
photos, listen to music, play games and much more. "
Oxford full of ***** again? say it isn't so....
I can't wait to see how he tries to explain away this and the Xandros
machines.
wal-mart's solaris based servers sure suck at finding Linux! they
certainly don't show any Linux machines by searching for Linux in the
search fields of the entire site or in electronics. Walmart is probably
embarrassed by selling such low margin, low profit products so they bury
them.
So I guess, if you really dig at the back of the online store you can
find them, but most any shopper for Linux will think they don't sell
them. They certainly aren't under "Linux".
:)
Thanks for admitting you didn't know what the hell you were talking about
when you said "ah, Wal-Mart no longer sells any Linux Machines."
And it is amazing 2 of us found Linux based machines so fast on Wal-Mart's
site and you couldn't.
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Rick
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| User: "Rgdawson" |
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03 Oct 2005 10:32:27 PM |
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Rick <none@nomail.com> wrote:
So I guess, if you really dig at the back of the online store you can
find them, but most any shopper for Linux will think they don't sell
them. They certainly aren't under "Linux".
:)
Thanks for admitting you didn't know what the hell you were talking about
when you said "ah, Wal-Mart no longer sells any Linux Machines."
And it is amazing 2 of us found Linux based machines so fast on Wal-Mart's
site and you couldn't.
You mean the server didn't know what the hell I was talking about :)
Linux users are hackers, there's no problem with that, but the fact you
can't find linux machines by typing "linux" or "linux laptop", or "linux
desktop" shows walmart doesn't really care about selling them. The are
buried that's for sure.
(as a side note, walmart doesn't even stock them, they route the "rare"
order to a third party - smirk :)
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03 Oct 2005 10:35:33 PM |
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 21:32:27 -0600, Rgdawson wrote:
Rick <none@nomail.com> wrote:
So I guess, if you really dig at the back of the online store you can
find them, but most any shopper for Linux will think they don't sell
them. They certainly aren't under "Linux".
:)
Thanks for admitting you didn't know what the hell you were talking about
when you said "ah, Wal-Mart no longer sells any Linux Machines."
And it is amazing 2 of us found Linux based machines so fast on Wal-Mart's
site and you couldn't.
You mean the server didn't know what the hell I was talking about :)
No, I didn't mean that at all. That's another of your lies.
Linux users are hackers,
you're a liar, and you know it.
there's no problem with that, but the fact you
can't find linux machines by typing "linux" or "linux laptop", or "linux
desktop" shows walmart doesn't really care about selling them. The are
buried that's for sure.
(as a side note, walmart doesn't even stock them, they route the "rare"
order to a third party - smirk :)
Translation: You lied and won't admit it.
YOU SAID: "ah, Wal-Mart no longer sells any Linux Machines."
You were supplied with links proving your lie.
I don't know what the other person did, but
I looked in the desktop computer area. Very simple.
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Rick
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| User: "Rick" |
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03 Oct 2005 08:09:58 PM |
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 15:44:00 -0600, Rgdawson wrote:
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@deathstar.prodigy.com> wrote:
If you want to be a nerd who gets things done, use Linux.
If you want ease of use, windows is the way.
If you want to read/send Email, browse the web, do a little writing and
build a spreadsheet or two, there's little difference between Windows
and Linux, except you can get a complete Linux system from Wal-Mart for
<$300. The Linspire system doesn't fall over all the time, nag you to
register, make the headlines with new security holes.
ah, Wal-Mart no longer sells any Linux Machines.
Sorry to break the news!
http://www.walmart.com/
They've Joined CompUSA after they found it's no longer, useful or
popular. Linux is fading.
<http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3762907&cat=231793&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A231785%3A231793>
It seems tha baove comes with Xandros pre-installed.
It's not a ease of use decision, it's the application software, if you
need a certain program it's more likely on Windows, if you just need
functionality in most cases you can use Linux. As you say, you will
find, download, and install it yourself.
Yes, but the Mac OS is the king of Applications,
ahah HAH ah AHhah AHAHHAH ahh AHHA h AHAH aHAHha
while Windows has more,
Yes, it does.
Apple has much better Apps,
... in your opinion.
Linux has neither for the general consumer.
We have shown this to be a lie before.
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Rick
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| User: "Peter Hayes" |
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05 Oct 2005 04:55:45 AM |
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Rgdawson <rgdonn@paccbell.net> wrote:
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@deathstar.prodigy.com> wrote:
If you want to be a nerd who gets things done, use Linux.
If you want ease of use, windows is the way.
If you want to read/send Email, browse the web, do a little writing and
build a spreadsheet or two, there's little difference between Windows
and Linux, except you can get a complete Linux system from Wal-Mart for
<$300. The Linspire system doesn't fall over all the time, nag you to
register, make the headlines with new security holes.
ah, Wal-Mart no longer sells any Linux Machines.
Sorry to break the news!
http://www.walmart.com/
You're a Grade 1 idiot, aren't you.
I click on www.walmart.com, enter Linux in the search box and get 312
hits. Drill down a little further,
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3762907&cat=231793&
type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A231785%3A231793#Specifi
cations
and lo-and-behold, there's a Linux PC. Surprise surprise.
Five minutes work.
Maybe you should just switch off your rubbish generator...
They've Joined CompUSA after they found it's no longer, useful or
popular. Linux is fading.
It's not a ease of use decision, it's the application software, if you
need a certain program it's more likely on Windows, if you just need
functionality in most cases you can use Linux. As you say, you will
find, download, and install it yourself.
Yes, but the Mac OS is the king of Applications, while Windows has more,
Apple has much better Apps, Linux has neither for the general consumer.
What does the "general consumer" want? Mail, web, chat,
photo-processing, Office, - it's all there with Linux.
Maybe you should just switch off your rubbish generator...
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Peter
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| User: "Rgdawson" |
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05 Oct 2005 07:02:29 PM |
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(Peter Hayes) wrote:
Sorry to break the news!
http://www.walmart.com/
You're a Grade 1 idiot, aren't you.
I click on www.walmart.com, enter Linux in the search box and get 312
hits. Drill down a little further,
Okay Peter, I tried it, 312 hits, same as you, but after clicking
through 16 PAGES, NO linux machines!, just a bunch of books that have
been made obsolete by OSX.
I suggest anyone try and you will see I'm right, Peter is wrong.
http://www.walmart.com/ (search for "linux" entire site)
Perhaps walmart's servers sensed I was on OSX and wouldn't be interested
in Linux machines, that's the only reason outside of Peter lying.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3762907&cat=231793&
type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A231785%3A231793#Specifi
cations
and lo-and-behold, there's a Linux PC. Surprise surprise.
Nope, no linux machines within the 312 hits.
Five minutes work.
Maybe you should just switch off your rubbish generator...
Maybe you should test your comments before you post!
They've Joined CompUSA after they found it's no longer, useful or
popular. Linux is fading.
It's not a ease of use decision, it's the application software, if you
need a certain program it's more likely on Windows, if you just need
functionality in most cases you can use Linux. As you say, you will
find, download, and install it yourself.
Yes, but the Mac OS is the king of Applications, while Windows has more,
Apple has much better Apps, Linux has neither for the general consumer.
What does the "general consumer" want? Mail, web, chat,
photo-processing, Office, - it's all there with Linux.
But there are no QUALITY apps on Linux that do this, again, QUALITY is
what we are looking for, not "hacks". like GIMP, OO, Mplayer, etc.
Maybe you should just switch off your rubbish generator...
Not even sure what that is, must be something you own with a broken
switch.
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| User: "Rick" |
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06 Oct 2005 01:29:28 AM |
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:02:29 -0600, Rgdawson wrote:
not_in_use@btinternet.com (Peter Hayes) wrote:
Sorry to break the news!
http://www.walmart.com/
You're a Grade 1 idiot, aren't you.
I click on www.walmart.com, enter Linux in the search box and get 312
hits. Drill down a little further,
Okay Peter, I tried it, 312 hits, same as you, but after clicking
through 16 PAGES, NO linux machines!, just a bunch of books that have
been made obsolete by OSX.
I suggest anyone try and you will see I'm right, Peter is wrong.
http://www.walmart.com/ (search for "linux" entire site)
Perhaps walmart's servers sensed I was on OSX and wouldn't be interested
in Linux machines, that's the only reason outside of Peter lying.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3762907&cat=231793&
type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A231785%3A231793#Specifi
cations
and lo-and-behold, there's a Linux PC. Surprise surprise.
Nope, no linux machines within the 312 hits.
I followed the link he posted. Here's the results.
Microtel SYSWM4007 PC 1.5 GHz Sempron 2200+
256 MB DDR memory
40 GB hard drive
CD-ROM drive
Ethernet connection
56 kbps Modem
Xandros SurfSide Linux
Five minutes work.
Maybe you should just switch off your rubbish generator...
Maybe you should test your comments before you post!
His link produced a machine with Linux pre-installed.
They've Joined CompUSA after they found it's no longer, useful or
popular. Linux is fading.
It's not a ease of use decision, it's the application software, if you
need a certain program it's more likely on Windows, if you just need
functionality in most cases you can use Linux. As you say, you will
find, download, and install it yourself.
Yes, but the Mac OS is the king of Applications, while Windows has more,
Apple has much better Apps, Linux has neither for the general consumer.
What does the "general consumer" want? Mail, web, chat,
photo-processing, Office, - it's all there with Linux.
But there are no QUALITY apps on Linux that do this, again, QUALITY is
what we are looking for, not "hacks". like GIMP,
The GIMP is a great non-print graphics editor. Since you have obviously
never used it, you wouldn't know.
OO,
You might want to tell that to all the people and organizations that are
adopting it.
Mplayer, etc.
I haven't run into any video that I can't play using mPlayer.
Maybe you should just switch off your rubbish generator...
Not even sure what that is, must be something you own with a broken
switch.
Buy a clue, little bigot.
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Rick
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| User: "Peter Hayes" |
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06 Oct 2005 04:02:49 AM |
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Rgdawson <rgdonn@paccbell.net> wrote:
not_in_use@btinternet.com (Peter Hayes) wrote:
Sorry to break the news!
http://www.walmart.com/
You're a Grade 1 idiot, aren't you.
I click on www.walmart.com, enter Linux in the search box and get 312
hits. Drill down a little further,
Okay Peter, I tried it, 312 hits, same as you, but after clicking
through 16 PAGES, NO linux machines!, just a bunch of books that have
been made obsolete by OSX.
Since when has OS X been the backbone of the internet? Last time I
looked Linux was everywhere, with a bit of Microsoft here and there.
I suggest anyone try and you will see I'm right, Peter is wrong.
http://www.walmart.com/ (search for "linux" entire site)
Perhaps walmart's servers sensed I was on OSX
You're a rookie at this internet stuff, aren't you.
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Peter
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03 Oct 2005 05:12:45 PM |
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begin risky.vbs
<ACh0f.48$eW3.4718@news.uswest.net>,
Rgdawson <rgdonn@paccbell.net> writes:
ah, Wal-Mart no longer sells any Linux Machines.
Sorry to break the news!
http://www.walmart.com/
They've Joined CompUSA after they found it's no longer, useful or
popular. Linux is fading.
You are a despicable liar.
<http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3762907&cat=41937&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937#What%27s+Included>
Xandros SurfSide Linux
Additional software Includes:
Fed up with malicious spyware, viruses and worms that can monitor
your activities, steal your credit information, cripple your
machine, and destroy your personal files? Xandros SurfSide Linux
provides the Carefree Internet choice:
--
Rich Bell in thread: Things I couldn't do if I switched to Linux
Message-ID: <tB7Oe.182$yo7.65@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>
I am connected to the Net using a Linksys WRT54G router. I don't
get hacked.
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03 Oct 2005 04:25:09 PM |
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The substrate doesn't matter. Just as long as it lets you communicate
with other fellow neurons, the whole will form the Global Brain. Any
means to an end.
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| User: "Autymn D. C." |
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03 Oct 2005 02:35:46 PM |
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Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors wrote:
If you want to be a nerd who gets things done, use Linux.
If you want ease of use, windows is the way.
Yes, I can open and shut windows easily. And Linux can delete itself
fast and well!
About the only reason you should own a mac, is if you're a graphic
designer.
You're not a graphic designer Autymn. Time to buy a new computer.
Which computer do you suggest?
AMD versus Intel is a mixed bag. Both make fine processors, and have
different strengths and weaknesses, for example Intel ones are
generally better at image decompression and reading memory blocks,
while AMD has much better floating point performance etc...
Intel is a fourth to a third worse than AMD in work and waste, at
similar speeds and retail prices. Kill CISC now. Intel is a criminal.
Macs should've always been IBM-AMD mates:
http://systemshootouts.org/processors.html.
The clunky one-button mouse is one of the stupidest products ever
devised.
Once you've used a normal mouse, you won't want to go back.
I've used one-button and three-button rolling mouses, the three-button
trackball, the two-button scrolling sliding mouse, and the one-button
trackpad. If you weren't a Weeny, you would know that the MacOS is
made to be faster with one button. But you're clueless about a tool
that does many functions at once. Learn the hold-click, and you'll not
go back.
I couldn't be bothered reading any of these threads, but I will say
this:
Apple should go into the mp3 player business fulltime, and leave
computers to those who do it better.
There are no companies that make better computers. Apples aren't even
Personal Computers, in the way of doling out to personnel, but Intimate
Computers, in the way of a sculpted killer tool.
http://cherenkov-radiation.blogspot.com/
All flames go to^
-Aut
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03 Oct 2005 10:30:33 PM |
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Autymn D. C. wrote:
Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors wrote:
If you want to be a nerd who gets things done, use Linux.
If you want ease of use, windows is the way.
Yes, I can open and shut windows easily. And Linux can delete itself
fast and well!
About the only reason you should own a mac, is if you're a graphic
designer.
You're not a graphic designer Autymn. Time to buy a new computer.
Which computer do you suggest?
For you, I'd recommend the Sinclair ZX81.
AMD versus Intel is a mixed bag. Both make fine processors, and have
different strengths and weaknesses, for example Intel ones are
generally better at image decompression and reading memory blocks,
while AMD has much better floating point performance etc...
Intel is a fourth to a third worse than AMD in work and waste, at
similar speeds and retail prices. Kill CISC now. Intel is a criminal.
Prices (as of 2004):
Model Clock speed Socket Price
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Athlon 64 3800+ 2.4GHz 939 $643
Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2GHz 939 $346
Pentium 4 560 (925X) 3.6GHz 775 $637
Pentium 4 550 (925X) 3.4GHz 775 $417
Intel beats AMD at multi-tasking and video rendering:
http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/processorsmemory/0,39024015,39164010-5,00.htm
AMD versus Intel is a mixed bag, in spite of your hyperbole.
Macs should've always been IBM-AMD mates:
http://systemshootouts.org/processors.html.
The clunky one-button mouse is one of the stupidest products ever
devised.
Once you've used a normal mouse, you won't want to go back.
I've used one-button and three-button rolling mouses, the three-button
trackball, the two-button scrolling sliding mouse, and the one-button
trackpad. If you weren't a Weeny, you would know that the MacOS is
made to be faster with one button. But you're clueless about a tool
that does many functions at once. Learn the hold-click, and you'll not
go back.
You're wrong. One-button mice suck. I know from experience.
I couldn't be bothered reading any of these threads, but I will say
this:
Apple should go into the mp3 player business fulltime, and leave
computers to those who do it better.
There are no companies that make better computers. Apples aren't even
Personal Computers, in the way of doling out to personnel, but Intimate
Computers, in the way of a sculpted killer tool.
Macs are dinosaurs with a crappy and limited range of software.
http://cherenkov-radiation.blogspot.com/
All flames go to^
You truly are a silly little girl.
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http://cherenkov-radiation.blogspot.com/
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| User: "Peter Hayes" |
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05 Oct 2005 04:55:44 AM |
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Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors <cwocwocwo@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Autymn D. C. wrote:
Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors wrote:
If you want to be a nerd who gets things done, use Linux.
If you want ease of use, windows is the way.
Yes, I can open and shut windows easily. And Linux can delete itself
fast and well!
About the only reason you should own a mac, is if you're a graphic
designer.
You're not a graphic designer Autymn. Time to buy a new computer.
Which computer do you suggest?
For you, I'd recommend the Sinclair ZX81.
It didn't have a spellchecker.
--
Peter
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| User: "Autymn D. C." |
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07 Oct 2005 08:34:05 PM |
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Henry Lemington-Wholeflavors wrote:
For you, I'd recommend the Sinclair ZX81.
That's okay; I've been looking at terminal emulators on /..
AMD versus Intel is a mixed bag. Both make fine processors, and have
different strengths and weaknesses, for example Intel ones are
generally better at image decompression and reading memory blocks,
while AMD has much better floating point performance etc...
Intel is a fourth to a third worse than AMD in work and waste, at
similar speeds and retail prices. Kill CISC now. Intel is a criminal.
Prices (as of 2004):
Model Clock speed Socket Price
--------------------------------
Athlon 64 3800+ 2.4GHz 939 $643
Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2GHz 939 $346
Pentium 4 560 (925X) 3.6GHz 775 $637
Pentium 4 550 (925X) 3.4GHz 775 $417
You still don't understand the scam. Do you not know what waste means?
Oh, you are too bothered by adding and multiplying to notice you're
sitting in your own thermal filth. Cost (not price) comes first, then
work. Cost climbs with speed; work climbs with thruput. If you had
seen the first citation I gave on the cheaper cost of Macs, you
would've known that the savings could be used to buy more processors or
computers that take the stead of faster processors, and come out ahead
in speed, work, and thrift. See OrangePC or PegasosPPC at least.
Intel beats AMD at multi-tasking and video rendering:
http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/processorsmemory/0,39024015,39164010-5,00.htm
AMD versus Intel is a mixed bag, in spite of your hyperbole.
The Talk Back and the rest of the article say otherwise. (However, the
comments from some betray the fact that they can't read charts, also.)
These outdoings from Intel are few and least important.
I've used one-button and three-button rolling mouses, the three-button
trackball, the two-button scrolling sliding mouse, and the one-button
trackpad. If you weren't a Weeny, you would know that the MacOS is
made to be faster with one button. But you're clueless about a tool
that does many functions at once. Learn the hold-click, and you'll not
go back.
You're wrong. One-button mice suck. I know from experience.
No, you suck: http://xvsxp.com.
Learn to key both-handed if you're staying on the page.
Learn to mouse switch-handed if you're going to be moving.
Learn to mouse left-handed if you're doing both.
I never use the clicker for scrolling; I always use the arrow keys, or
letter keys in Finder. Hmm, I use the arrow keys for most of my moving
in Finder, opening too.
There are no companies that make better computers. Apples aren't even
Personal Computers, in the way of doling out to personnel, but Intimate
Computers, in the way of a sculpted killer tool.
Macs are dinosaurs with a crappy and limited range of software.
Prove it. It can't be both.
http://cherenkov-radiation.blogspot.com/
All flames go to^
You truly are a silly little girl.
You say little but fluff great.
-Aut
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07 Oct 2005 08:40:41 PM |
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And you are both wrong. The entire Earth is forming into a huge neural
net because humans now have point-to-point easy cheap communication
capability. It doesn't matter what the substrate is, any machine will
do, as long as it can enable this communcation. The Global Braim.
Now, kiss and make up.
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