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User: "Laurent"
Date: 19 Aug 2005 10:28:51 PM
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Last Tribulations on God, Spirit and the Aether
"An act is a temporal process, and self-inclusion is a
spatial relation. The act of self-inclusion is thus
"where time becomes space"; for the set of all sets,
there can be no more fundamental process...
Every object in spacetime includes the entirety of
spacetime as a state-transition syntax (logic)
according to which its next state is created. This
guarantees the mutual consistency of states and the
overall unity of the dynamic entity the real
universe...
....thus, we can speak of time and space as equivalent
to cognition and information with respect to the
invariant semantic relation processes, as in "time
processes space" and "cognition processes
information"...
It follows that the universe freely determines its own
constraints, the establishment of nomology and the
creation of its physical (observable) content being
effectively simultaneous and recursive. The incoversive
distribution of this relationship is the basis of free
will, by virtue of which the universe is freely created
by sentient agents existing within it." -----
Christopher Michael Langan
http://www.ctmu.org/CTMU/Q&A/Archive.html
---------------------------------------------------
God is Spirit and Spirit is will, energy enbued with
intention, purpose comes after, with matter and
spacetime. Syntropy comes from Spirit, from will, once
God learns what it has materially become, it wills a
general direction for matter's evolution to follow,
that's why in that sense it is correct to say we are
God's eyes, God's brain... we are God's conscience.
This process, what we call evolution, has now become,
after two major planetary extinctions, the
anthropomorphization of matter. Had there been no
asteroids crashing into earth, no major extinction
causing cataclysms, reptiles would still be ruling the
earth.
Asteroids crashing into Earth are randomly happening
events.
God couldn't think unless it had a brain. Matter
evolved into creatures with eyes and a brain because
God willed it, God wanted to exist and it exists
through matter and spacetime. So in that sense it is OK
to say there is an intelligent designer, the Universe
designs itself. It is an autopoietic process ruled by a
syntropic principle which comes from Spirit.
Being and existing are two different things, you can be
without existing but you can't exist without being,
it's that simple.
God is but it couldn't exist unless it turned into
matter.
Since God is not matter, it is OK to say it is
nothingness, immaterial... it is the empty space in
which the Universe sits, that substance from which the
Universe emerged which many have called the Aether.
Heaven is not a place separated from this earthly
world, the whole Universe sits on this empty space from
which it emerged and evolved as a natural process.
According to Maturana and Varela, systems which
exchange information - such as the ones we create -
generate autopoiesis - self-organizing systems through
a process known as structural coupling. They say:
"In describing autopoietic unity as having a particular
structure, it will become clear to us that the
interactions (as long as they are recurrent) between
unity and environment will consist of reciprocal
perturbations. In these interactions, the structure of
the environment only triggers structural changes in the
autopoietic unities (it does not specify or direct
them), and vice versa for the environment. The result
will be a history of mutual congruent structural
changes as long as autopoietic unity and its containing
environments do not disintegrate: there will be a
structural coupling." ------- Maturana and Varela (The
Tree of Knowledge: The
Biological Roots of Human Understanding)
------------------
"In other words, while the precise qualities of
information transfer may not be directed, the fact that
there is information flow between an organism and its
environment - in the context of the current discussion,
between Phi and Psi - necessarily implies that a
second-order unity - a meta-system - is created. It is
my assertion - and the thesis of this lecture - that
this autopoiesis creates what we call "reality", that
any presentation of information engages us in a
feedback loop between information presenter and
informed presentee until both forms enter a stable
meta-state.
In other words, what we perceive becomes, or rather,
converges, on what is real, and both what is perceived
and what is real undergo epistemological transformation
during the process of what I would call generative
epistemology." --- author unknown to me
http://www.hyperreal.org/~mpesce/viz97.html
-----------------
"AETHER, or ETHER (Gr. ai6rip, probably from aWu, I
burn, though Plato in his Cratylns (410 B) derives the
name from its perpetual motionart. ad 0ei irepl rbv
aepa pku>v, aeiderip 8ucaius av KaXoIro), a substance
of a more subtle kind than visible bodies, supposed to
exist in those parts of space which are apparently
empty.
The hypothesis of an aether has been maintained by
different speculators for very different reasons. To
those who maintained the existence of a plenum as a
philosophical principle, nature's abhorrence of a
vacuum was a sufficient reason for imagining an
all-surrounding aether, even though every other
argument should be against it. To Descartes, who made
extension the sole essential property of matter, and
matter a necessary condition of extension, the bare
existence of bodies apparently at a distance was a
proof of the existence of a continuous medium between
them. But besides these high metaphysical necessities
for a medium, there were more mundane uses to be
fulfilled by aethers. Aethers were invented for the
planets to swim in, to constitute electric atmospheres
and magnetic effluvia..."
Quote from -
http://68.1911encyclopedia.org/A/AE/AETHER.htm - also
found at - http://cyberdyno.home.att.net/
------------------
Empty space is one... and God is one.
But this Aether concept didn't start there, many
advanced civilizations looked at the Divine not as a
person but as order or harmony, i. e. Master Lao's Tao
(500 BC), which was supposed to be in a state of
unbeing and from which everything came to being and
then back to unbeing as a natural process. This
oneness, this wholeness in Nature, is a very old notion
which goes back in history at least 4,500 years
(Imhotep).
--
Laurent
http://cyberdyno.home.att.net/
.

User: "Androcles Androcles@ MyPlace.org"

Title: Re: Last Tribulations on God, Spirit and the Aether 21 Aug 2005 07:19:01 PM
"Laurent" <cyberdyno1@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:TrxNe.638245$cg1.432007@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Phuckwit.
Androcles
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Last Tribulations on God, Spirit and the Aether 21 Aug 2005 10:52:13 PM
Like you can talk Androcles.
God is One the One thing that is not a thing at all
.


User: "Nick"

Title: Re: Last Tribulations on God, Spirit and the Aether 19 Aug 2005 10:43:08 PM
Laurent wrote:

Last Tribulations on God, Spirit and the Aether


"An act is a temporal process, and self-inclusion is a
spatial relation. The act of self-inclusion is thus
"where time becomes space";

Where time becomes space?
Thats when things happen they are said to take "place."

for the set of all sets,
there can be no more fundamental process...

Every object in spacetime includes the entirety of
spacetime as a state-transition syntax (logic)
according to which its next state is created. This
guarantees the mutual consistency of states and the
overall unity of the dynamic entity the real
universe...

...thus, we can speak of time and space as equivalent
to cognition and information with respect to the
invariant semantic relation processes, as in "time
processes space" and "cognition processes
information"...

It follows that the universe freely determines its own
constraints, the establishment of nomology and the
creation of its physical (observable) content being
effectively simultaneous and recursive. The incoversive
distribution of this relationship is the basis of free
will, by virtue of which the universe is freely created
by sentient agents existing within it." -----
Christopher Michael Langan

http://www.ctmu.org/CTMU/Q&A/Archive.html

---------------------------------------------------

God is Spirit and Spirit is will, energy enbued with
intention, purpose comes after, with matter and
spacetime. Syntropy comes from Spirit, from will, once
God learns what it has materially become, it wills a
general direction for matter's evolution to follow,
that's why in that sense it is correct to say we are
God's eyes, God's brain... we are God's conscience.

This process, what we call evolution, has now become,
after two major planetary extinctions, the
anthropomorphization of matter. Had there been no
asteroids crashing into earth, no major extinction
causing cataclysms, reptiles would still be ruling the
earth.

Asteroids crashing into Earth are randomly happening
events.

God couldn't think unless it had a brain. Matter
evolved into creatures with eyes and a brain because
God willed it, God wanted to exist and it exists
through matter and spacetime. So in that sense it is OK
to say there is an intelligent designer, the Universe
designs itself. It is an autopoietic process ruled by a
syntropic principle which comes from Spirit.

Being and existing are two different things, you can be
without existing but you can't exist without being,
it's that simple.

God is but it couldn't exist unless it turned into
matter.

Since God is not matter, it is OK to say it is
nothingness, immaterial... it is the empty space in
which the Universe sits, that substance from which the
Universe emerged which many have called the Aether.
Heaven is not a place separated from this earthly
world, the whole Universe sits on this empty space from
which it emerged and evolved as a natural process.

According to Maturana and Varela, systems which
exchange information - such as the ones we create -
generate autopoiesis - self-organizing systems through
a process known as structural coupling. They say:

"In describing autopoietic unity as having a particular
structure, it will become clear to us that the
interactions (as long as they are recurrent) between
unity and environment will consist of reciprocal
perturbations. In these interactions, the structure of
the environment only triggers structural changes in the
autopoietic unities (it does not specify or direct
them), and vice versa for the environment. The result
will be a history of mutual congruent structural
changes as long as autopoietic unity and its containing
environments do not disintegrate: there will be a
structural coupling." ------- Maturana and Varela (The
Tree of Knowledge: The
Biological Roots of Human Understanding)

------------------

"In other words, while the precise qualities of
information transfer may not be directed, the fact that
there is information flow between an organism and its
environment - in the context of the current discussion,
between Phi and Psi - necessarily implies that a
second-order unity - a meta-system - is created. It is
my assertion - and the thesis of this lecture - that
this autopoiesis creates what we call "reality", that
any presentation of information engages us in a
feedback loop between information presenter and
informed presentee until both forms enter a stable
meta-state.

In other words, what we perceive becomes, or rather,
converges, on what is real, and both what is perceived
and what is real undergo epistemological transformation
during the process of what I would call generative
epistemology." --- author unknown to me

http://www.hyperreal.org/~mpesce/viz97.html

-----------------

"AETHER, or ETHER (Gr. ai6rip, probably from aWu, I
burn, though Plato in his Cratylns (410 B) derives the
name from its perpetual motionart. ad 0ei irepl rbv
aepa pku>v, aeiderip 8ucaius av KaXoIro), a substance
of a more subtle kind than visible bodies, supposed to
exist in those parts of space which are apparently
empty.

The hypothesis of an aether has been maintained by
different speculators for very different reasons. To
those who maintained the existence of a plenum as a
philosophical principle, nature's abhorrence of a
vacuum was a sufficient reason for imagining an
all-surrounding aether, even though every other
argument should be against it. To Descartes, who made
extension the sole essential property of matter, and
matter a necessary condition of extension, the bare
existence of bodies apparently at a distance was a
proof of the existence of a continuous medium between
them. But besides these high metaphysical necessities
for a medium, there were more mundane uses to be
fulfilled by aethers. Aethers were invented for the
planets to swim in, to constitute electric atmospheres
and magnetic effluvia..."

Quote from -
http://68.1911encyclopedia.org/A/AE/AETHER.htm - also
found at - http://cyberdyno.home.att.net/

------------------

Empty space is one... and God is one.

But this Aether concept didn't start there, many
advanced civilizations looked at the Divine not as a
person but as order or harmony, i. e. Master Lao's Tao
(500 BC), which was supposed to be in a state of
unbeing and from which everything came to being and
then back to unbeing as a natural process. This
oneness, this wholeness in Nature, is a very old notion
which goes back in history at least 4,500 years
(Imhotep).

--
Laurent

http://cyberdyno.home.att.net/

God doesn't need a brain laurent.
That spirit is the Supreme scientist of the universe
God created science.
I believe in Einstein. He was the first of God's scientists.
What do you believe?
.


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